I traded my LCP to a good friend for his S&W 642. He had these installed and I don't use laser grips, so I removed them. They are about 3 years old but hardly used. He told me he put 10 rounds through the gun with the grips installed to sight them in and then put it in the safe. I fired 10 rounds after receiving the gun and they are accurate and the laser is bright. No box, just the grips and screw.