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coltm4a3
02-21-2009, 01:43
Well, I've been carrying my 340SC now for several years as a pocket gun, and just this week picked up a set of LG-405's (CT Lasergrip), and I must say this is one of my favorite, lightweight, throw in my front pocket and forget about it guns I have. For me, this is a "better than nothing" gun, as if I can carry and effectively conceal my Glock 27 (or larger gun) that goes with me first. My 340

My question to all the 340 owners is this- Do you really load the .357 MAG round when you carry it concealed? I know everyone bought this gun because of the .357 capabilities (otherwise you could have bought the 642 and saved some $), but perhaps after firing it decided that was not the way to go, so that's why I ask. And most important- BE HONEST! Don't let your ego or pride get in the way, some people may have a hard time admitting that they can't handle the round or don't like it.. after all it is a brutal round to fire out of the scandium framed gun!!

Me personally, I first had a 642 for many years, and enjoyed carrying that... but after the 340 came out in .357, I sold my 642 and bought the 340 figuring I would just have more options, and worst case scenerio just download to .38 rounds (and effectively admit that I just wasted several hundreds of dollars upgrading to the .357, lol!).

I'll admit that when I first bought the 340, I was pumped to have a full power .357 gun until I shot the .357 rounds out of it... and went back to loading it with .38 special rounds (I have always liked the Nyclad in .38). The .357 at first was VERY painful and uncomfortable to shoot.... but over time, I have fired it enough to adjust to it and now carry full .357 loads for personal defense.

I will also say this- on my range trips, this is the LAST gun I shoot as I know my hand will swell and perhaps become numb... and I don't shoot a lot of rounds out of it. But I am comfortable enough with this gun that I think I could do whatever was needed in a high stress situation.

For those who just bought the gun, or have had it a while.... give it some time! Work your way into the .357 rounds and you'll be glad you did. If they just don't work out for you, I'd still feel comfortable with the .38 rounds.

So lets hear from the 340 owners....

pstmstr
02-21-2009, 04:13
I practice with .38 but carry .357 Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel loads. I'll also shoot 5 or 10 once in while just to be familiar with the difference. I have a 340 M&P that I really like.

Rikki
02-21-2009, 05:07
I carry WW Ranger 357's in mine.
It's alot more fun to shoot with downloaded 38's.
But "When you care enough to send the very best"...357 says it so very well.
I'm not so familiar with all of S&W's product line, but for me, the 340Sc offered features I wanted- replaceable front sight(mine is now a X/S Big Dot), blast shield protecting the frame just above the forcing cone, lanyard loop( I carry it fishing and swamping)and of course, it's light weight( cell phone in 1 pocket and 340Sc in the other and my jammies don't fall down on the morning trip to the mailbox!)

Coach22
02-21-2009, 08:43
My 340 PD is loaded with
Buffalo Bore 125 grain 38 +P's.
http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#38spl

LH2
02-21-2009, 14:21
Remington Golden Sabre 125gr .357... I'll shoot 2 or 3 cylinders worth each range trip. Also practice with .38 FMJ anywhere from 25 - 50 rounds per session.

BigMatt
02-21-2009, 17:32
I shot mine for the first time today. WOW NOT PLEASANT!! my hand really hurts. and I am a big guy and not at all a recoil sissy I think I will carry it with .357 but am dang sure not gonna be practicing a whole lot with .357 which kinda bothers me since I like to be extremely proficient with what I carry but this thing is just NASTY!

mesteve2
02-21-2009, 19:23
On order in Austin, Texas.

Lots of money!

Hope I can hang on to it.

:wavey::wavey::wavey:

17z
02-21-2009, 20:19
When the Ruger LCR comes out,put an order on it. then you wont have to worry about the .357 biting you in the Buttooooooteeeeee. Or on Monday,call Bill Laughridge at Cylinder and Slide and ask him about when he shot it at the shot show range. 17z

speedsix
02-21-2009, 23:25
How much extra power do you really get out of a .357mag in a 1 7/8" bbl? If the .38spls are not burning all the powder, can the mags really give you anything?

I am seriously asking not being a smartass. I have heard that there are certain loads that are designed for a snub nose .38 like the Cor-Bon. The idea is that they burn more of the powder in the short bbls than a normal load. Is there a similar load for the .357mags? Most people don't have mag snubbies so I wonder if they ever made a load for them.

NGWT
03-06-2009, 02:23
When I first bought my 340PD I would practice once a week with .357 - an entire box.

I actually did this for almost a year. But as my collection grew I found myself shooting the 340PD less and less.

The funny part is nowadays I shoot about 10 .357 at a crack and I'm done. Switch over to the .38 after that.

So I got worse over time rather than getting used to it!

Wodduk
05-02-2009, 16:03
I carry a 360ss daily. I hardly ever shoot .357 ammo in it. My carry load is 125 gr. Corbon DPX. Stout but you can control it.

MSgt Dotson
05-02-2009, 16:06
How much extra power do you really get out of a .357mag in a 1 7/8" bbl? .

A mere 300-400 fps greater velocity.....

doc540
05-09-2009, 18:01
too light for me, but I got such a deal on it I had to buy it:whistling:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Model%20360/GoldDots005-1.jpg

hawk7
05-12-2009, 21:06
I bought mine about a month ago. I have over 300 rounds of 357's 158 LSWC out of it now. I work as a carpenter and my hands are pretty tough. If you are a desk dude, the thing might hurt your hand, but come on, some of the posts I read are like little girls crying about how bad is hurts. Buck up. You are shooting a 357 Magnum ya know, what did you expect. If you bought it thinking it was a plinker, then WTF were you thinking. Hold on to the thing with a tight grip, keep your thumb away from the cylinder release or it will bite.

Great weapon, great sights, and great caliber.

Hawk7

cc1970
05-24-2010, 11:50
Sold my SW 340pd.
Like the way it looks and feels in the hand , but....read below

Range report:
shot 357 mag 180gr JHP Remington from it 2 rounds (never again!!! I thought it will jump out my hand)
shot 357 mag 158gr GDHP Speer Gold Dot, about 15rds (didn't care much for it)
shot 357 mag 125gr GDHP Speer Gold Dot, about 25rds (not to pleasant)
shot 38+P 125gr JHP Magtech Guardian Gold (IMHO it is one of the best personal defense round for this revolver )
shot 38spl Winchester White Box (good training round)

I am 5'8'' and 185 pounds. Worked all my life with hands. My hands are large.
Now I want to get SW MP340.

G27Chief
05-24-2010, 19:14
340SC daily with .38SPCL Nyclad 158gr SWCHP, shoots well, carries like a dream. I want a M&P with a big dot front sight. I perfer the darker finish on my carry guns, maybe I can slip one past the wife.

FireMedicKeith
05-26-2010, 15:04
I have an M&P340 with the stock grips on her and I have always shot it with full house .357 magnum rounds. This is carry and range trips. I knew it would kick when I bought it but I have never had a problem with recoil. I also have a PM40 that no one else seems to like. Everyone seems to go to the PM9 because of the harsh recoil.

Always carry the largest round that YOU can shoot well.

OMEGA5
08-05-2010, 18:09
QUOTE=pstmstr;12349998]I practice with .38 but carry .357 Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel loads. I'll also shoot 5 or 10 once in while just to be familiar with the difference. I have a 340 M&P that I really like.[/QUOTE]

:goodpost: My thoughts exactly except here recently, I've been carrying
140 gr Hornady LEVERevolution rounds in my 340PD. I'd carried the Speer
Gold Dot Short Bbl loads for a couple years but picked up a box of these
and liked the way they shot better in my gun so I've switched. The .44mag
version shoots real well out of my 4" m29 and out of my Ruger m44 Carbine
too.
Dano
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/omega5m14/DailyCarry001a.jpg

FourXFour
08-13-2010, 00:23
I practice with .38 but carry .357 Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel loads. I'll also shoot 5 or 10 once in while just to be familiar with the difference. I have a 340 M&P that I really like.


+1 I do the same

Glockbuster
08-17-2010, 15:24
I carry Winchester Supreme SXT 130 grain .38 +p rounds. Donīt really care about the magnum loads.

WHY a 340 PD ? it was to be originally a 340 M&P, but I got a chance to buy a spanking brand new 340PD from a friend that no longer wanted it for a little less. The super light weight at 11.4oz. takes the prize in my ankle bianchi holster.

Iīm honest in saying I canīt really handle the full house magnum loads in this revolver.

Glockin' Bob
09-10-2010, 18:15
Yep, full house Speer 125 gr GDHP .357 mag loads. Expired a skunk with it a couple of weeks ago, a bit after sundown and it puts out a fair amount of flash. Puts a grin on my face pullin' the trigger.
Carry the 340PD when clothing won't let me carry my G29, another grin maker.

--Glockin'Bob

fastbolt
09-11-2010, 14:22
I own and carry the slightly heavier (approx 2oz) M&P 340 instead of the PD.

I can accurately & rapidly shoot Magnum loads in mine ... but I choose to carry +P loads in it.

Why?

Because I can shoot the gun with various +P loads faster and more controllably than when using the Magnum loads.

FWIW, I'd have bought the M&P 340 even if it had only been chambered in .38 +P. I bought it simply for the stronger Scandium aluminum frame and the front XS night sight. I looked at it as a sort of "improved" version of my 642 that I might be able to subject to more usage than the 642. I'm going to try and wear it out.

bdcremer
09-24-2010, 20:29
No, the 340 is not comfortable to shoot with full 357 mag. loads. However, I like the power to weight ratio this revolver provides.

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx284/bdcremer/IMG_0461.jpg

Fireman1291
09-25-2010, 19:19
Just bought a 340PD new from the budspolicesupply today. Can't wait to get her in! And I already ordered ammo, clipdraw and 5rd flat speed loaders. Its gonna be sweet not wearing a rig during summer in FL!

Sbh87
08-31-2011, 21:52
No, the 340 is not comfortable to shoot with full 357 mag. loads. However, I like the power to weight ratio this revolver provides.

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx284/bdcremer/IMG_0461.jpg

That's one fine looking firearm you got there but I have to agree with you firing 357s out of that is not a fun day. Rented one at the Smith and Wesson range and gave it back after five rounds traded to a 686 plus to finish up the remaining ammo I had. When I eventually got a snubbie of my own I went with the 640 so I could shoot 357 more comfortably.

fastbolt
08-31-2011, 23:29
Since this thread was last active (prior to today), I've picked up a second M&P 340.

I've come to like the M&P 340 that much. ;)

This latest one is the new variation that doesn't have the ILS (lock).

While I'll probably still occasionally carry the original one as I rotate through my various J's, I plan to use it increasingly as my "range beater". Might as well try to see if I can wear it out.

Chup
09-01-2011, 06:22
I have a Ruger LCR. I can shoot all the 357 I want with no pain. Thats what I practice with thats what I carry. The Smith is a better looking gun. The Ruger delivers.

Glockbuster
09-01-2011, 08:53
Nice to see this old thread resurrected.

Since it was put to sleep Iīve been doing more and more 38 special +P shooting in it. I use the good ol Chicago or FBI load. 158 gr. LSWHP from Remington. The superior lead quality keeps the revolver very clean, it is manageable, and a hell of a load.

Like I said before, I canīt handle magnum loads very well in this lightweight revolver. The marginal added velocity is not worth the extra blast and uncontrollability. IMHO of course.

For those of you shooting magnum loads, could you post real chronoed data of velocities obtained with bullet weights out of this snub or similar ?

2740dmx
09-03-2011, 05:52
Since this thread was last active (prior to today), I've picked up a second M&P 340.

I've come to like the M&P 340 that much. ;)

This latest one is the new variation that doesn't have the ILS (lock).

While I'll probably still occasionally carry the original one as I rotate through my various J's, I plan to use it increasingly as my "range beater". Might as well try to see if I can wear it out.

Coming from you, that is a great endorsement for the M&P 340!
I have long wanted a 340...but like many of us...financial reality gets in the way!
I have often considered going to a concealed carry regimen that consists of a 340 IWB with a 442 in front pocket.
10 rounds of .38+P is a solid defensive tool...

Glockbuster
09-03-2011, 08:29
Coming from you, that is a great endorsement for the M&P 340!
I have long wanted a 340...but like many of us...financial reality gets in the way!
I have often considered going to a concealed carry regimen that consists of a 340 IWB with a 442 in front pocket.
10 rounds of .38+P is a solid defensive tool...

I really hope you can stash away the bucks for a 340 some day friend, you'll not regret it and will love the little one more and more as time goes by.

I have the 340PD with a High Viz green front optic pipe, and M&P 340 with a Crimson Trace and XS dot tritium front.

Edited: It is said about these little ones "carried often, shot little", but I find myself shooting the 340's more often than not. I love the challenge they pose with my 38 spl +P's.

I never use both at the same time but your idea of two snubs is not bad. Front pocket carry ? you might want the lighter gun there all by itself.

fastbolt
09-03-2011, 11:59
Coming from you, that is a great endorsement for the M&P 340!
I have long wanted a 340...but like many of us...financial reality gets in the way!
I have often considered going to a concealed carry regimen that consists of a 340 IWB with a 442 in front pocket.
10 rounds of .38+P is a solid defensive tool...

The reason I like the M&P 340 enough to have picked up the second one is because I've had the chance to do quite a bit of shooting using my first one, along with my other J's (5 others), and I've found the XS front night sight to offer a faster sight acquisition (when I take the time to pick up the front sight). It's handy and fast to use.

My other J's have a mix of the older/narrow and newer/wide front post ramps, and a couple colors of sight paint (orange/red & white), so they work pretty well. It's just that the standard size XS front dot sight is much easier & faster to pick up, and it centers very well into the U-shaped rear notch, making it easier to avoid letting the front sight unintentionally rise and lift the POI.

I think S&W got the sight setup just right on the M&P's.

Besides, once they released the new M&P 340 without the ILS, it gave me enough reason to pick up another one. ;)

The weight difference between the 442/642 and the M&P isn't a lot, but it is noticeable when it comes to pocket carry. The Ti/Sc guns are even lighter (like the PD's), but I just never got too interested in the guns with the titanium cylinders. Talk about light pocket carry, though ... they can virtually disappear, weight-wise.

I've not often carried a couple J's at the same time, but I've done it. Special circumstances, so to speak.

If I wasn't an older revolver shooter, and didn't enjoy somewhat of a strong foundation of a revolver skillset, I probably wouldn't be carrying the J's so much. I do enjoy shooting them, though, and I like keeping my revolver skills current. I spent my fair share of time having to wear a full-size or compact pistol on-duty every day, so now that I'm retired I enjoy being able to carry a smaller & lighter variety of retirement weapons.

Sure, sometimes I'll carry one of my assorted full-size, compact or sub-compact pistols (and I have a number of them in 9, .40 & ,45), but more often than not it's one of my J's that gets the nod ... and the M&P has even replaced my well-liked 642-1's as the most commonly chosen model.

I'm still kicking around picking up a nickel M40, just to add another steel frame to my collection, and I really miss an older nickel M36 3" w/heavy barrel I foolishly let slip away. That little 3" J handled and fired just about as well as my issued 686 4" of that time (although it was a belt holster gun for me, which is probably why I let it go when one of the guys tempted me to sell it to him many years ago).

Well, anyway, it was nice to see this older lightweight J thread topic resurrected. ;)

Hard to beat the variety of J's for their intended roles.

jwhite75
10-19-2011, 12:49
I practice with .38 but carry .357 Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel loads. I'll also shoot 5 or 10 once in while just to be familiar with the difference. I have a 340 M&P that I really like.

This^^^^:cool:

2740dmx
11-01-2011, 17:46
I really hope you can stash away the bucks for a 340 some day friend, you'll not regret it and will love the little one more and more as time goes by.

I have the 340PD with a High Viz green front optic pipe, and M&P 340 with a Crimson Trace and XS dot tritium front.

Edited: It is said about these little ones "carried often, shot little", but I find myself shooting the 340's more often than not. I love the challenge they pose with my 38 spl +P's.

I never use both at the same time but your idea of two snubs is not bad. Front pocket carry ? you might want the lighter gun there all by itself.

My day has finally come!
Got a brand new 340 M&P (NO LOCK) on order with Bud's Gun shop, and it should ship any day now!
Haven't figured out how to break the news to my wife yet...
concealed is concealed..I hope!

Full range report to follow!
Now I am back to all revolvers for ccw.
My S&W 66 snub and now the 340 j-frame
Wheelguns rule!