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Nicoroshi
03-13-2009, 22:43
I have already shot the upper using my 5.56 lower. Fist three shots (sitting with bipod) made one ragged hole at 50 yards).
Specs:
POF 16" piston upper in 6.8 SPC
Mega lower
MAID Grip
Bobro VFG
EOTech + x3
Troy BUIS
CAA stock
PWS-FSC30
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3939/dscn2236k.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1074/dscn2237.jpg

Family photos:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9906/dscn2233.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7940/dscn2256.jpg

Being stricken with BRD has it's shining moments :50cal:

Z95P
03-13-2009, 22:45
Damn your collection is looking great ! :supergrin:

Nicoroshi
03-13-2009, 22:48
Damn your collection is looking great ! :supergrin:
And growing..............
Thanks. I'm having fun with them for sure.

Z95P
03-13-2009, 22:50
I am finishing up my second Bushmaster AR-15, What's the details with the other guns in the pictures ?

Nicoroshi
03-13-2009, 22:56
I am finishing up my second Bushmaster AR-15, What's the details with the other guns in the pictures ?
Other AR is 5.56 SDI S.S. fluted 1:8 twist with PWS-FSC556 on an Alexander Arms A3 upper sporting a YHM fore grip, Young light match carrier, Kaiser Defense lower, Magpul MAID, GG&G BUIS, and RRA stock M4 with buttpad+ CAA saddle. Pistols are G17, and G21SF both with AGrip,3.5 connector,Extended controls, and Glockworks triggers. The G17 has a LWB tattooed by Dan Hume of RockYourGlock.

Z95P
03-13-2009, 22:59
Other AR is 5.56 SDI S.S. fluted 1:8 twist with PWS-FSC556 on an Alexander Arms A3 upper. Kaiser Defense lower, Magpul MAID, GG&G BUIS, and RRA stock M4 with buttpad+ CAA saddle. Pistols are G17, and G21SF both with AGrip,3.5 connector,Extended controls, and Glockworks triggers. The G17 has a LWB tattooed by Dan Hume of RockYourGlock.

Sweet ! You did a great job on the case too, So what's next ?

Nicoroshi
03-13-2009, 23:09
Sweet ! You did a great job on the case too, So what's next ?
Remington 870 or AR-10..........probably both :)

I had to glue what was left of the foam down to the bottom piece of foam to keep the AR's from pulling it out when I removed them. 3M spray glue is great stuff

nikegolf13
03-13-2009, 23:41
You're rifles and pistols are awesome, but that case is frickin' STUNNING!

A+ from me, sir!

Norman
03-13-2009, 23:48
Well done. +1 on the case.. that's very nice.

Nicoroshi
03-14-2009, 00:17
Well done. +1 on the case.. that's very nice.
They barely fit. Some of my (larger) mags, bipod, and sling migrated to the range bag to make room.

ram2
03-14-2009, 09:04
They barely fit. Some of my (larger) mags, bipod, and sling migrated to the range bag to make room.

That is and impressive group of guns you got there. The case is real nice!

NyGlockcop
03-14-2009, 11:26
Beautiful build you did and a great collection you have there. I just liquidated several firearms from my safe, and I'm about to start my AR build, if you dont mind me asking minus the cost of the Eotech, what did your build run you for the rest of the rifle? I'm looking to do a flat top build and I'm just getting into the AR scene. There are so many different ways to build an AR with all the companys out there making parts.

Nicoroshi
03-14-2009, 13:14
Beautiful build you did and a great collection you have there. I just liquidated several firearms from my safe, and I'm about to start my AR build, if you dont mind me asking minus the cost of the Eotech, what did your build run you for the rest of the rifle? I'm looking to do a flat top build and I'm just getting into the AR scene. There are so many different ways to build an AR with all the companys out there making parts.
I hand picked the parts for my 5.56, and built it from there (including staking the gas key, torquing the barrel nut, building out a stripped lower, etc).
Some of the parts I chose were not the most cost effective so keep that in mind. I chose what I personally wanted for the type of shooting I wanted to do (basically sub MOA at up to 300 yards off a bipod).
The 5.56 ran about $2000 with mags, cleaning supplies, and some special tools needed for building, BUIS included in that (minus optics which added another $900 or so).
The 6.8 SPC I built using a gas piston upper from POF. The upper itself could have financed a nice rifle or two average ones (~$1600) but it was what I wanted for that build.
Final cost OTD for that one was ~$2200 without optics.
This all being said it is possible (in a free state which I am not in) to buy a complete rifle in the ~$800-$1000 range. You'll lose things like a free float hand guard, chrome bolt and carrier, PWS comp/hider, Magpul MAID grip, SDI Match barrel + some other nice things I added on my builds but the rifle will be more than servicable as a battle rifle or everyday plinker. Being in California I was stuck building mine anyway so figured why not customize it to fit my needs/wants.

So.......The questions you'll need to answer are:
1. What do I want this rifle to do
2. How important are hand picked parts to the answer to question 1.
3. How much am I willing to spend.
4. Do I want to build it myself or buy a completed upper, and lower.

When you have the answers you know the direction that's right for you.

Gribble
03-14-2009, 13:26
I have already shot the upper using my 5.56 lower. Fist three shots (sitting with bipod) made one ragged hole at 50 yards).
Specs:
POF 16" piston upper in 6.8 SPC
Mega lower
MAID Grip
Bobro VFG
EOTech + x3
Troy BUIS
CAA stock
PWS-FSC30
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3939/dscn2236k.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1074/dscn2237.jpg

Family photos:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9906/dscn2233.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7940/dscn2256.jpg

Being stricken with BRD has it's shining moments
:rock:

GlockLovin
03-14-2009, 14:48
POF worth the price?

Nicoroshi
03-14-2009, 15:33
POF worth the price?
Really depends on what you personally want, and I think those who own one will give you different answers depending on their own view of things.

For me: Heck Yes!
Reasons why:
1. very little to no lube required in upper (I gave the parts a wipe with CLP, and that was it).
2. Easy cleaning with nickel plated piston upper (one wipe with a dry cloth in the upper, and carrier, and she's done....The locking lugs, bolt face, and barrel are like a DI system when it comes to cleaning....rear of bolt was clean). The piston is three pieces (lock,piston, and rod), and removable by hand All are hardened chromed pieces that were also easy to clean.
3. Accurate. I was expecting the piston, and thick chrome lining in the barrel/ chamber to affect accuracy but was surprised to find out that it was as as accurate or more so than my Heavy S.S. SDI Match barrel on my 5.56. When I was sighting her in at 50 yards my first three shots made one hole. It is also nice to have a barrel rated for machine gun fire right out of the box. Their barrels are made by Rock Creek Barrels
.
4. Recoil was only slightly more than my 5.56 DI system, and very manageable.
5. Although the Predator rail system sits a bit higher (some complain about it) I did not notice it affecting my cheek weld. It is VERY stable being directly connected to the upper, and was comfortable to use. It's also nice to buy an upper with a free floated barrel standard.
6. 100% made in the USA.
7. Ran flawlessly. Not a single issue. After owning Glocks for their reliability I was happy to have an AR that lived up to what I expect of my guns.

If the options that come standard are something you are looking for in an upper for your AR then I think the cost is right about there (price of POF vs. cost to build one with similar features/options).
Read below:
http://www.pof-usa.com/upper/upper415-6168SPCML.htm
That is the one I have.
If those options are something you're looking at adding or having anyway I would recommend looking at POF. If not then it's probably not for you, and something more economical may suit your needs just fine.
You make the call.
For me it had everything I wanted for a price that was in line with what I would have payed to build one so it was the right choice for me.

CALIx
03-14-2009, 23:46
Yup...Very true and I love mine as well.
<a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/CALIX/?action=view&current=PA200124.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/CALIX/PA200124.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

CALIx
03-14-2009, 23:46
Yup...Very true and I love mine as well.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/CALIX/PA200124.jpg

Nicoroshi
03-15-2009, 00:05
CALIx,
What's the barrel length on that bad boy? 10.5? How does that comp do with the noise?

RMTactical
03-15-2009, 01:06
Looks great! :supergrin:

GlockLovin
03-15-2009, 08:00
So im building my first build and I am debating rather or not to go with a gas piston upper. I was looking into the LWRC and the POF uppers. What do you guys think?

Nicoroshi
03-15-2009, 15:19
So im building my first build and I am debating rather or not to go with a gas piston upper. I was looking into the LWRC and the POF uppers. What do you guys think?
If it's your first I would recommend a standard DI system over the piston. Although the piston is nice when it comes to cleaning it's other advantages are not realized until you shoot over 500 rounds in a trip, shoot rapid fire or use it as a battle rifle that you wouldn't have time to clean in the field. My DI 5.56 runs flawlessly for the 150-250 rounds I normally fire off through it in a range day, and was much less expensive to buy. One of the advantages of the Piston is not only keeping the gas out of the upper receiver but the heat as well. If you shoot rapid fire or full auto the piston will increase the life of the parts by not repeatedly heating, and cooling the parts in the upper receiver. If you are just range shooting (my home range likes 1-2 seconds between shots unless in competition), or don't plan on dumping a whole mag or two in rapid fire that point (advantage) is moot.
If not shooting 500 rounds or more between cleanings again the piston system advantage is moot.
Reason I spent the money on a piston system for my second build?
Main reasons was availability, and competition shooting. Sometimes I might shoot more than 500 rounds in a day, and most of those in rapid fire. My everyday shooting is more precision bench shooting/ hunting where I wouldn't need the features of the piston but having them for the times when I run competition made it a smart choice for me (and this build).
In the end it really depends on how you intend to shoot your rifle if the piston is 'worth it' over the DI system.
That being said if you simply 'want one', and have the cash by all means go for it. They are a dream to clean up after shooting, and the POF upper has been reliable, and trouble free thus far for me.

CALIx
03-15-2009, 20:23
CALIx,
What's the barrel length on that bad boy? 10.5? How does that comp do with the noise?


Sorry for the double post. Some how my computer at home won't allow me to delete it.


Nicoroshi,

Its 11.5" and the comp is useless. Its so loud that people at the range would ask me if I'm shooting a 6.8 or even a .308. Other than that it eats anything from el-cheapo to expensive rounds and never ever had any feeding issues at all.

CALIX

Nicoroshi
03-15-2009, 21:32
Sorry for the double post. Some how my computer at home won't allow me to delete it.


Nicoroshi,

Its 11.5" and the comp is useless. Its so loud that people at the range would ask me if I'm shooting a 6.8 or even a .308. Other than that it eats anything from el-cheapo to expensive rounds and never ever had any feeding issues at all.

CALIX

I was only off by an inch :)
Ever think of putting "the pig" on that SBR?
http://dynamicarmament.com/items/ar15-accessories/flash-hiders-suppressors/noveske-flash-hider-w-fire-breathing-pig-kx3firebreathingpig-detail.htm
I removed mine for the noise issue (I am shooting 6.8SPC), and loved my PWS so much on my 5.56 I decided to get the PWS-FSC30 for the 6.8.
The noise is less (probably not enough for an SBR though), and the muzzle rise/ recoil is greatly reduced.
It was the only thing I could think of changing on the POF upper. Everything else I have been extremely happy with.

CALIx
03-16-2009, 05:01
I have a PIG on one of my SBR's and it does work. I just don't like putting another extra inch or so on a 11.5" long barrel already. I will look into the PWS that you mentioned. Thanks...

Beware Owner
05-27-2010, 08:54
Freaking sweet. I'm looking into getting an AR lower and sticking a 6.8 upper on it, would an Armalite lower do for this? Are there any 6.8 upper brands I should shy away from?