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DLL9mm
03-15-2009, 07:03
Has anyone used this ammo in their 9mm Glocks? I just ordered another 500 rounds. It worked great in my G17 and was pretty accurate. It was just a little dirty. Does is wear the extractor?
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/pName/500rds-9mm-brown-bear-115gr-fmj-ammo/cName/9mm-fmj-ammo

DannyR
03-15-2009, 07:19
Yup, steel cased ammo is tough on Glock extractors. When I have to buy ammo, I get Winchester USA, Blazer or American Eagle.

CableRouter
03-15-2009, 09:20
Has anyone used this ammo in their 9mm Glocks? I just ordered another 500 rounds. It worked great in my G17 and was pretty accurate. It was just a little dirty. Does is wear the extractor?

My G19 is quite happy on a steady diet of Brown Bear. The money you save shooting the cheap stuff will more than pay for an $18 extractor when it comes time to get a new one.

cdemarse
03-15-2009, 09:32
My G19 is quite happy on a steady diet of Brown Bear. The money you save shooting the cheap stuff will more than pay for an $18 extractor when it comes time to get a new one.

The problem I have is that its cheaper for me to shoot brass. I can get 100 value packs of WWB at my local wal-mart for $19. With tax thats still cheaper than I can find wolf of brown bear.

Oh well I guess I will just have to deal with it. :whistling:


Edit* On the other hand I shoot a lot of Wolf MC threw my AR's with no problems.

Headcase_Fargone
03-15-2009, 09:56
Your WalMart has ammo in stock? Where do you live, Canada?

cdemarse
03-15-2009, 10:15
Your WalMart has ammo in stock? Where do you live, Canada?

Yes sir. I am in the greatest, most honest stat in the country...IL :upeyes:

I was just there yesterday(wal-mart) and they were running low on 9mm and 45. Had a couple boxes of each but I already have.....enough :whistling:

Hell they even had the 100 round value packs of federal .223, they were $40.

I picked up some winchester value packs of 12 gauge slugs, buck, and birdshot.

And across the road we have a "farm store" called Big-R. They have ANY type of ammo you can think of in stock. About a dollar of two more than Wal-mart so prices are still good.

bluejdixon
03-15-2009, 10:18
*pokes his Canadian head in*

There is not a Walmart around me that carries ANY handgun ammunition.

lastevolution
03-15-2009, 12:20
I've fired several thousands of the stuff through my G17, G19, and G26 without a hitch.

Extractors aren't any worse for wear. I don't see how mild steel cases are hard on hardened steel extractors.

samuse
03-15-2009, 12:21
I've got about 2000 rounds of the Monarch Steel from Academy through several Glocks with no problems. I think it is the same stuff as the Brown Bear, Barnaul IIRC.

DLL9mm
03-15-2009, 12:49
All my Walmarts have been sold out of 9mm, 40, and .45 for a while. Everytime they get a shipment, someone comes in and buy EVERY single box! SO I figured I would order 500 more rounds of Brown Bear to avoid the stress and hassle of dealing with Walmart. I know I could get WWB or Blazer for the same price(If I go to Walmart everyday) I know this ammo is accurate and reliable because I already have a few hundred rounds. I shot a lot of this in my 17 and it preformed fine. I took my 19 out today and shot 150 rounds of Brown Bear with no problems. I just want an honest opinion, Should I order a replacement extractor Just in case? I really don't want to have mine go out on me. Thanks for everyones help!

cdemarse
03-15-2009, 13:05
All my Walmarts have been sold out of 9mm, 40, and .45 for a while. Everytime they get a shipment, someone comes in and buy EVERY single box! SO I figured I would order 500 more rounds of Brown Bear to avoid the stress and hassle of dealing with Walmart. I know I could get WWB or Blazer for the same price(If I go to Walmart everyday) I know this ammo is accurate and reliable because I already have a few hundred rounds. I shot a lot of this in my 17 and it preformed fine. I took my 19 out today and shot 150 rounds of Brown Bear with no problems. I just want an honest opinion, Should I order a replacement extractor Just in case? I really don't want to have mine go out on me. Thanks for everyones help!

In you opinion how much dirtier was the bear than WWB?

Thanks

DLL9mm
03-15-2009, 13:38
They both are about the same in my opinion. I usually shoot about 100-200 rounds everytime I go to the range, and after when I clean them, I don't notice a whole lot of difference. The dirtiest ammo I have ever used would have to be Aguila. I bought a couple boxes of .45, and my g36 was filthy afterwards(50rds)

W.E.G.
07-07-2010, 09:19
Reviving this thread from 2009.

Brown Bear prices are down.

Is this stuff still running without issue in Glocks?

DLL9mm
07-07-2010, 10:30
Reviving this thread from 2009.

Brown Bear prices are down.

Is this stuff still running without issue in Glocks?

No issues at all in a G17 and a G19(about 1500rounds) Just a bad smell :supergrin:

cowboy1964
07-07-2010, 10:37
I shot 500 Brown Bear through my G26. No issues other than the bad smell it left behind. Had to thoroughly clean everything including detail stripping the slide to get it all out.

I use Silver Bear now. It doesn't have the bad smell and it's only slightly more expensive (like 50 cents a box).

2afreedom
07-07-2010, 13:33
I have put several thousand of the cheapest steel-cased ammo I can find through my Glock 19. It has all of the original parts and has never had a hiccup. Any cheap practice ammo will be dirty-American, Russian, whatever. Buy the cheapest ammo you can find to punch paper and clean your gun regularly. Carry quality SD ammo. Test your SD ammo to be sure it cycles well in your firearm. Sleep well at night.

joemal
07-07-2010, 13:35
I've fired hundreds of rounds with this stuff....G17 still goes BANG

CitizenOfDreams
07-07-2010, 14:12
If you can get steel ammo cheaper than brass, go ahead. You can always buy a $20 extractor if you do manage to wear one out. Just don't use cheap Russian ammo for anything serious like self-defence or competition.

JK-linux
07-07-2010, 14:47
Not the best ammo in the world in that it can shoot pretty dirty and the steel is tougher on a firearm than brass. But, unless you plan to shoot 80,000 rounds through your carry pistol, just to say you did - your extractor should be fine. If your gun will shoot this reliably, go for it.

TwentyNizzo
07-07-2010, 14:52
Ive been buying Federal 115 gr FMJ from Walmart for $9.47/50. At that price it makes no sense for me to but the Brown Bear, although I am a fan of their 223. The only downside is that they limit me to 6 boxes of ammo.

cowboy1964
07-07-2010, 15:40
Ive been buying Federal 115 gr FMJ from Walmart for $9.47/50. At that price it makes no sense for me to but the Brown Bear, although I am a fan of their 223. The only downside is that they limit me to 6 boxes of ammo.

I would buy nothing but Walmart Federal if I could get it. But I'm not going to burn $ and time continually checking for it when I only am able to score it about 1 time in 10.

gunsnhoses
07-07-2010, 15:52
The trick to getting the bad smell out is to run a couple magazines worth of brass case ammo through your gun at the end of your range trip. I do this when I shoot Brown Bear and it gets rid of most of that bad smell which is the ONLY downside to using this ammo.

samuse
07-07-2010, 22:28
I ended up shooting a little over 4000 rounds of this stuff last year. No problems in my G-17. It does smell funky. I use CLP foaming bore cleaner for the bore, a phosphor bronze brush for the carbon and a sink with hot water and dish soap for all the powder residue. My Glocks smell like grapefruit Ajax when I get done with 'em!

2afreedom
07-08-2010, 09:41
If you can get steel ammo cheaper than brass, go ahead. You can always buy a $20 extractor if you do manage to wear one out. Just don't use cheap Russian ammo for anything serious like self-defence or competition.

I agree that steel-cased fmj is not SD ammo or "match" grade; however one test showed Wolf 9mm just as if not more accurate than WWB or Blazer. Read about it here: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu6.htm

Of course this was an informal test but it's nice to know that just about any of these cheap brands of ammo is more than accurate enough for practice.

tfreeman1911
11-21-2010, 11:12
I bought 100 rounds of brown bear from cheaper than dirt and shot my first 50 on 2 days ago and it did better than the WWB the week before. With ammo prices up and brown bear for $8/50 on CTD, I'll definitely be buying more.
Does anyone know how to replace the extractor? If it's only a $20 part, I'd prefer to do it myself and keep my costs down rather than go to a gunsmith.

G26Okie
11-21-2010, 11:53
The steel casing on the Russian ammo is mild steel, much softer than what your extractor is made of and shouldn't affect it.

Also, I find the TULA ammo to be the better buy. It doesn't have the green lacquer that brown bear has which can melt off and gum up your gun, and the TULA doesn't have that weird smell, and is not as dirty.

ssgrock3
11-21-2010, 13:51
wish it was still $89 case, but those days are gone. Yes it shoots great. Would buy all I could even though I reload, if it was still that cheap.

locosteelersfan
11-23-2010, 12:57
Never shot either, but I've heard silver bear is better.

Aceman
11-23-2010, 14:48
Bear, Wolf, Tiger, Bull, Zebra, whatever...It's all about the same and all dirty. Does it really matter HOW dirty?

Then again, I am shooting the Might Heckler & Koch USP. Titanium cases wouldn't even make it pause to think!

And honestly, Wolf was way more accurate than WWB. Worth it to me for $9.

Dave V
03-01-2014, 16:07
And you are correct sir!

mullarz
03-02-2014, 09:28
I thought brown bear had a copper washed bullet and not copper jacket. but I take it no one has had issues lead fouling?

tcruse
03-02-2014, 14:44
Copper washed mild steel jacket. You will also notice that it is somewhat shorter than most US ammo. I have not had any issues with using it. The major issue in this area is that ranges will not allow any steel/Bi-Metal jacket or case. The claim is fire safety.

ssgrock3
03-02-2014, 18:56
well it does spark off the indoor range back stop....had to just try it. There is "bi-metal" in those rounds. But when it was cheap it was great ammo to stockpile and outdoor shooting. I am a reloader and so when I scrounge ranges for brass (used to anyway) hated finding the cases, but the rusty cases at my old outdoor range reminds you of a war zone.