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folmonty
03-15-2009, 19:24
Posted this in General area but no one seems to know much about it.

Just dropped into the Glock world and this forum. Hello everyone. Getting back into the shooting sport / reloading hobby after a 30 year hiatus. Dumped the job so to speak :supergrin: before it dumped me maybe. Anyway - came upon this mdl 21. Been looking high and low for any information I can find. Seems it has a Schuemann compensator barrel and Aro-Tec intergrated laser. Serial numbers are stamped into the barrel, slide and frame with the Glock logo also stamped in the barrel. Build date looks to be 92 second gen.

Can anyone add anything to this? Was it a factory offered pistol, done by some aftermarket company like Aro-Tec or..........? Way the slide is cut out seems quite unusual. Notice the front sight. It's dovetailed into the barrel. Fits very tightly when locked up.

Thanks for any and all information.
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m4arc
03-16-2009, 19:53
The pictures are super small...bigger pictures would help but here's what I see; its a second generation G21 that was manufactured in August of 1992. The barrel looks stock but was ported and somethingorother was added to the top. And someone machined the hell out of that slide.

Something else that is very curious is somebody went to all that trouble only to install the factory sights? Odd.

Can you post some larger pictures?

GSD17
03-16-2009, 20:18
Ditto an everything m4arc said.

Definately not something offered by GLOCK.

Looks as though someone has polished and ported the factory barrel and machined the slide all to pieces.

Edit: After looking at the pic closer, it looks like the machined away part of the slide has been attatched to the barrel... I may be wrong, but that is what it appears like in the small pictures.

deadday
03-16-2009, 20:21
Very interesting pistola....sorry, but no help to add...

folmonty
03-17-2009, 10:58
Group - thanks for looking this over. Here are some more pictures which may help? The barrel has Glock logo and serial number which matches the frame & slide. Barrel looks to be machined from one piece of stock. Sights looks like Bomar dovetailed but mounted to the barrel not the slide. Thanks again in advance for any assistance or leads on what in the world this is exactly?
PS - clicking on a thumbnail will give ya a larger view.

MakeMineA10mm
03-17-2009, 15:56
Monty pretty much already had all the info that can be had by looking at it.

The factory Glock barrel has a Schueman "integral" comp added to it. (This is NOT the part of the slide that was cut away welded on and re-machined to make the comp. I believe Schueman's comps are made from stainless steel and added onto the barrel in question.)

The slide is machined out very carefully for the Schueman comp to fit.

There is also the Aro-Tek integral laser added, with the activation switch on the rear gripstrap and the "danger - laser" sticker added to the slide.

The work that was done appears to be done VERY well. The mating of the comp to the opening in the slide looks very awesome, and the implacement of the activation switch and "hiding" of the wire from it to the laser means this was a very professionally-done job. I'm guessing it probably is from Aro-Tek, but there are some individuals out there who could do an equal job.

As far as the sights, I'm betting it originally had night sights, and either a previous owner replaced them with factory Glock because they had faded (less likely) or a previous owner had just replaced them and decided he wanted them on another pistol and swapped out the sights before selling this one (more likely).

Monty - It's a super-awesome piece, but not really a collectible inasmuch as commemoratives/special editions go. It's probably worth what someone thinks those special features' values are.

folmonty
03-25-2009, 08:10
Thanks for the assist on this. I've been in contact with AroTek out of WA. They informed me this was one of 10 prototype guns manufactured in 1993 by them dubbed their "Ultimate Combate Pistol." They're very responsive and helping me obtain couple of repair parts for the laser and new sights. The laser module is no longer made by their supplier but mine works like a champ. Changing out the sights to zero it in between 20 - 30' per AroTek recommendations using a +4 sight set.

Sorry for posting this in the Collector's Club forum since it probably doesn't meet that criteria but you guys are usually the most informed bunch.

folmonty
04-23-2009, 15:54
Have most of the information I was looking for. In case anyone is interested this will close the loop. Thank for everyone's help............
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1020496