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edtf
03-16-2009, 06:00
What would be needed if one wants to try out rifle matches?
e.g mags, mag pouches etc etc

Is it the same as pistol na there are different divisions?
What div will I fall in if I use a 16" iron sights (A2) fixed stock AR?

orimar3
03-16-2009, 06:32
What would be needed if one wants to try out rifle matches?
e.g mags, mag pouches etc etc
Is it the same as pistol na there are different divisions?
What div will I fall in if I use a 16" iron sights (A2) fixed stock AR?

You need only a rifle and a few magazines to shoot an IPSC Rifle match. There are 4 Divisions- Open Semi-auto, standard semi-auto, Open Manual and Standard manual. Your set-up would fit best in Standard semi-auto. Open and Standard are basically differentiated by having a scope or not. See the IPSC website for a copy of the IPSC Rifle rules.

edtf
03-16-2009, 07:33
You need only a rifle and a few magazines to shoot an IPSC Rifle match. There are 4 Divisions- Open Semi-auto, standard semi-auto, Open Manual and Standard manual. Your set-up would fit best in Standard semi-auto. Open and Standard are basically differentiated by having a scope or not. See the IPSC website for a copy of the IPSC Rifle rules.

thanks!! I downloaded the pdf file too. BTW, is there any rifle matches here in metro manila?

9MX
03-16-2009, 07:37
thanks!! I downloaded the pdf file too. BTW, is there any rifle matches here in metro manila?

armscor marikina would be the nearest, there was only 1 match in the past two years, iirc. long distance shooting is what makes ipsc rifle fun. hence, the popular ranges are pnpa in silang, clark eagle, calatagan, splendido (if open pa). lately, most matches are in pnpa, there was one in calatagan last december. there will be a level 2 rifle match in calatagan again on the first weekend of april just before holyweek.

orimar3
03-16-2009, 07:38
Check the PPSA calendar of matches (www.ppsa.org.ph). In October, the Philippines will be hosting the IPSC Australasia 3-Gun Championship in Clark and Camp O'Donnell. It will have 16 handgun, 8 shotgun and 8 rifle stages.

ahtsay
03-16-2009, 09:54
so if your rifle has iron sights but has a bi-pod, is it still categorized as standard division? :)

HEAVY
03-16-2009, 10:09
bawal bipod sa standard div. as far as i know.

9MX
03-17-2009, 06:59
+1, bawal ang bipod sa std

ahtsay
03-17-2009, 07:31
what about comps? or flash hiders lang pwede? hehe!!:)

9MX
03-17-2009, 07:43
what about comps? or flash hiders lang pwede? hehe!!:)

nakow, you gotta read the rulebook. kaya ako open, tamad ako magbasa e:rofl:

Allegra
03-17-2009, 09:52
What's an ipsc? :)

edtf
03-17-2009, 17:07
The Rifle Divisions List

Semi-Auto Open Division
1 Minimum power factor for Major 320
2 Minimum power factor for Minor 150
3 Minimum bullet weight N/A
4 Minimum cartridge case / bullet diameter N/A
5 Minimum caliber for Major N/A
6 Minimum trigger pull N/A
7 Maximum firearm length No
8 Maximum magazine length No
9 Maximum ammunition capacity No
10 Max. distance of mags/speed loaders from torso No
11 Restriction on action type No
12 Restriction on position of pouches and magazine retention devices and other equipment No
13 Optical/electronic sights permitted Yes
14 Compensators, sound and/or flash suppressors permitted Yes
15 Ports permitted Yes
16 The use of bipods and similar allowed Yes
17 Vertical front grip allowed Yes

Semi-Auto Standard Division
1 Minimum power factor for Major 320
2 Minimum power factor for Minor 150
3 Minimum bullet weight N/A
4 Minimum cartridge case / bullet diameter N/A
5 Minimum caliber for Major N/A
6 Minimum trigger pull N/A
7 Maximum firearm length No
8 Maximum magazine length No
9 Maximum ammunition capacity No
10 Max. distance of mags/speed loaders from torso No
11 Restriction on action type No
12 Restriction on position of pouches and magazine retention devices and other equipment No
13 Optical/electronic sights permitted No
14 Compensators, sound and/or flash suppressors permitted Max size 26mm x 90mm
15 Ports permitted No
16 The use of bipods and similar allowed No
17 Vertical front grip allowed, max length 152mm (6 inches) from the centerline of the barrel Yes

akula
03-17-2009, 18:03
nakow, you gotta read the rulebook. kaya ako open, tamad ako magbasa e:rofl:

Plus, there is a 2008 PNP Memo / Guidelines on the conduct of matches.

One of the notables in paper would be that
- only PPSA members are allowed to compete
- barrel length should be at least 14.5"
- 'bag' rule; slinging the rifle from stage-to-stage in not permitted
- no full-auto (I don't if 'mode' equates to capability; as we do have the semi-auto mode)
- no run-and-gun stages

paltiq
03-17-2009, 19:47
"no run-and-gun stages "

ano kaya meaning nito? ayaw nila sa assault courses?....oks lang sa kanila ang sniping? ....morale issues?:whistling:

edtf
03-17-2009, 19:49
"no run-and-gun stages "

ano kaya meaning nito? ayaw nila sa assault courses?....oks lang sa kanila ang sniping? ....morale issues?:whistling:

baka raw makita masmagaling pa mga shooters magassault kaysa pulis :)

rsaki
03-18-2009, 22:04
baka raw makita masmagaling pa mga shooters magassault kaysa pulis :)

...hmmmm?????!!!! think twice, bago mo sabihin na mas magaling ang civilian shooters na mag assault kaysa pulis....:steamed::rofl:

edtf
03-19-2009, 06:40
...hmmmm?????!!!! think twice, bago mo sabihin na mas magaling ang civilian shooters na mag assault kaysa pulis....:steamed::rofl:

Hahahaha Sir Rsaki, I knew I would get a response from you :supergrin:. I know there are lots of good pulis shooters out there.
BTW, Kasalanan mo ito kaya gusto ko sumubok ng IPSC rifle :supergrin:
Pero MAHUSAY talaga yung 16" mo!!!!!!!!! :bowdown:

edtf
03-29-2009, 07:48
Guys what mag pouch do you use for play? I was thinking of the Airsoft mag pouch - for play lang naman eh and mura lang siya :supergrin:

parakratos
02-23-2010, 19:32
Guys what mag pouch do you use for play? I was thinking of the Airsoft mag pouch - for play lang naman eh and mura lang siya :supergrin:

Ok rin bro un sa airsoft, pero eventually you have to replace them kasi madaling masira

9MX
02-24-2010, 08:32
Guys what mag pouch do you use for play? I was thinking of the Airsoft mag pouch - for play lang naman eh and mura lang siya :supergrin:

kami bladetech, pero ok din ang jr speed, dual function, puwede din siyang lalagyan ng shotgun ammo

CatsMeow
02-24-2010, 19:06
The combination mag pouch / shotshell holder sold by Hahn may work. It's rather tight when holding an AR mag, but holds 4 shotshells well. I gave mine away...:whistling:

And as in pistol IPSC, compensators rule, they also do a good job of destroying the stage barriers... I wish that, like Limited, there is a class where comps are verboten.

asian_glockster
02-24-2010, 21:48
sir query lang po. Pwede po ba M1 Carbine para sa Rifle IPSC?

CatsMeow
02-25-2010, 00:38
sir query lang po. Pwede po ba M1 Carbine para sa Rifle IPSC?

Why, yes! I've seen it done in Cebu, we call them the "Carbine Boys". They shoot very well too.

asian_glockster
02-25-2010, 03:16
thanks sir. mas madali po kasing hawakan ang M1 carbine kesa sa M16

sandman_sy
02-25-2010, 08:54
MOHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Another one has turned into the DARK SIDE :) hahahah...

ang OPEN pistol.. GREY pa yan.. pag.dating sa BLACK RIFLE... DARK SIDE :) hahahahah...

vega
02-25-2010, 14:07
sir query lang po. Pwede po ba M1 Carbine para sa Rifle IPSC?
Don't limit yourself to M4, before we could get M4 here in CA I used Keltec SU16.

9MX
02-25-2010, 17:54
MOHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Another one has turned into the DARK SIDE :) hahahah...

ang OPEN pistol.. GREY pa yan.. pag.dating sa BLACK RIFLE... DARK SIDE :) hahahahah...

who?:supergrin:

CatsMeow
02-25-2010, 18:32
One nice thing about using a carbine is that you don't have to hold two inches high at close range, unlike the AR.

Besides, Armscor sells .30 Carbine rounds. The Carbine Boys reload theirs.

sandman_sy
02-25-2010, 19:30
eh ito si EDTF :) hahahah.. welcome sir.. BRD pa yan.. Black Rifle Disease.. next is EWS :P

EMPTY WALLET SYNDROME :) hahahahahahhaha

asian_glockster
02-25-2010, 19:34
and it's easier to handle. I'm planning to practice my M1 carbine and M16 after the ban if they'll (PNP) permit it.

choi_tan2000
03-02-2010, 00:40
mga bro's ito magandang pang ipsc rifle
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n307/choi_tan2000/Image010-2.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n307/choi_tan2000/Image011-2.jpg