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Esox357
09-19-2002, 21:01
I read an article on a 260 caliber and it sounded interesting. My question is how hard is it to find ammo for it and does it have alot of recoil? Is it sufficient for hunting deer and other game? Would a 243 be better? Thanks Esox357

m65swede
09-20-2002, 03:51
Of all the calibers appropriate for deer hunting, the .260 Rem is just about perfect. The parent case is the .308 (same as the .243), recoil is mild, accuracy is very good, and terminal performance is superior to the smaller .243.

The recoil is a tad more than the .243 but remains in the "mild" category. Remington offers 3 different loads for this caliber. Ammo is not as widely available as for the .243

I'll take a .260, a 6.5x55 Swede, 7x57 Mauser, or 7mm-08 as the most effective deer rifle caliber.

Swede

mpol777
09-20-2002, 11:12
Originally posted by Esox357
Is it sufficient for hunting deer and other game?

it is sufficient. i've been looking around that range of caliber myself. .243, 6mm-250, .257 ackley, .260, .270 etc. whitetail out my way are relatively little and it would fill a gap in my collection between my various .22s and .30s. any of these has the right stuff for deer. it's all about bullet selection. using the heaviest bullets for that caliber will give good results on deer and the lightest will be good for varmints.

my $.02

P-990
09-28-2002, 17:04
260 Remington. Quite adequate for medium game, and with the proper bullet and a cool marksman, probably just as effective on out-sized game. I will tell you that the recoil is not bad, but if you are a skin-and-bones type like me, and you happen to choose a 700 Mountain or a Model 7, you will start to notice the effect after about 40-50 rounds. As mentioned above, this is probably due to my very slight build. And it could be a mental thing from the percieved blast firing under a covered point.

Anyway, as to ammunition availability, I have counted 6 factory loads for it. Any well stocked, Remington dealing shop should have at least one or the three loads, and Federal makes 2. Speer has one that I haven't tried. The bullets loaded are 140gr Sierra GK, 140gr Trophy Bonded, 140gr Core-lokt, 125gr Partition (my favorite) and 120gr Ballisti Tip. In my rifle the best accuracy has been with handloads using 140gr GameKings. Best group to date is .75".

My rifle happens to be a 700 Mountain with a Leopuld VX-I 2-7x33mm.

WalterGA
09-29-2002, 12:18
If you're looking for a rifle ONLY for deer hunting, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better round than the .260; however, if you have any desire to use the same rifle for varmint hunting, then the .243 wins hands-down.

If you reload, you'll find that some reloading accessories are either special order or not available in .260 Rem. Per Swede, the 6.5mm is an accurate, deadly round and has been used in Europe for thousands of years.

Rusty Phillips
12-01-2002, 15:47
Originally posted by WalterGA
.... the 6.5mm is an accurate, deadly round and has been used in Europe for thousands of years.



of all the walterisms ive run across

i nominate this one for the "walterism of the year award"

MI10mm
12-01-2002, 20:47
I'll take the .243 in a heartbeat. It has many more choice available as far as ammo, ie. deer loads and varmint loads. Ammo should be available anywhere too. Recoil? According to FFG magazine, DEC. issue, the .243 (100 gr) has 8.93 ft/lbs of recoil vs. the .260 (140gr) and its 13.98 ft/lbs of recoil. This is based on both rifles with an equal weight of 8 pounds. That's a 56% increase in recoil for very little difference in performance.

P-990
12-02-2002, 07:10
That's a 56% increase in recoil for very little difference in performance.

100gr 6mm vs. 140gr 6.5mm. SD of 100 gr 6mm: .242; SD of 140gr 6.5mm: .287. All things being equal that 6.5mm bullet will out penetrate the 6mm bullet. And to be honest, I would have faith in my .260 on a black bear or elk hunt, whereas with a 6mm I'd feel a little inadequate. ;)

MI10mm
12-02-2002, 20:46
Well, you could always go to FACTORY loaded Nosler Partitions or Grand Slams for the "extra penetration" that is needed. ;f Further, how about the Hornady Light Magnums in .243? 100 gr Hornady Interlock bullets at 3100 fps? Not too bad for FACTORY loaded ammo. :cool: More than adequate for most types of game too. ;f

P-990
12-03-2002, 06:45
Very true. But if the 6mm with the Grand Slams and Partitions is fair, might I point out that within 45 minutes of my house I can buy FACTORY loaded 140gr Trophy Bonded Bearclaws for my .260, and 125gr Partitions, also FACTORY!! ;f Of course, we could always just start using bigger guns!! ;) Peace man, we're all happy, right;d

isp2605
12-03-2002, 07:21
Originally posted by Rusty Phillips
of all the walterisms ive run across

i nominate this one for the "walterism of the year award"

Didn't Moses carry a 6.5 when he went to get the Ten Commandments? Also a 1911.

paynter2
12-06-2002, 21:53
100gr 6mm vs. 140gr 6.5mm. SD of 100 gr 6mm: .242; SD of 140gr 6.5mm: .287. All things being equal that 6.5mm bullet will out penetrate the 6mm bullet. And to be honest, I would have faith in my .260 on a black bear or elk hunt, whereas with a 6mm I'd feel a little inadequate.

.243 is plenty medicine for any deer. I've shot bucks that dressed out over 200 pounds without problems. I've also shot a few bear and seen a few more shot with .243 - same results.

Elk - I can't speak for elk. But, if I were to buy a single rifle for deer - thru black bear - to elk, I think I'd not only go bigger than the .243/6mm Rem or .260 to something like a .270, .308, or 30=06.

I like what I read about the .260 too. But, I think I'd get a 7mm-08 before I'd get a .260. Better performance, short action, and more avaiable.

As to the 6.5 Swede... long action. I prefer short actions for bolt rifles. Just personal preference. I've also read that (like the 6mm Rem), the 6.5 kills way out of proportion to it's ballistics.

Some info on different calibers...
http://www.chuckhawks.com/index2d.rifles.htm

Matthew Temkin
12-08-2002, 22:09
The .260 is a great concept. But I'd wait awhile to see if it catches on. (If not, then ammo may become hard to find/expensive.)
.243 works great. As does the 7mm-08. ( I like the short actions that these calibers provide.
But....since they are all based on the .308 I bought a....308.
Ammo is cheap and plentiful ( mucho surplus rounds abound.)
And with 150 grain bullets the recoil is fairly mild.
Best of all, it is a dandy big game round.

cohiba
12-24-2002, 13:36
i have a steyr prohunter mountain in 260 that will shoot 1 hole 3 shot groups from a warm bbl all day long. perfect rd. a 270 to a 308 basicaly.

EL RATA
12-29-2002, 19:04
Got my oldest son a Ruger Compact 77 in .260 Remington last year. Kicks like a .243, kills like a .270. Haven't loaded varmint rounds yet, but an 85 grain HP will scream and kill real well, too (maybe better on coyotes than a 6mm?)