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paltiq
05-18-2009, 18:53
from PG forum: ....please share your infos para mai-correct ang story kung may error.thanks!
:wow:

Around 1:15pm during a sanctioned game at theVertidos cup, Some shooters witnessed Mr. Charlie Garcia na nagsisigaw
ng "Gusto mo pasabugin ko bao ng ulo mo?!"
Ng alamin ng mga nakakita, ang pinagsasabihan daw nung Charlie ay si Mr. Ruben, caretaker ng range.
According to the info nagrereklamo daw yung mga homeboys dahil sa pansit na pinakain sa kanila nung agahan
tapos nung lunch daw ay kanin at yung pansit ulit ang ulam ang pinakain sa kanila, panis na daw at basa na yung pansit
kaya nagreklamo mga homeboys kay Mr. Ruben na sya namang sinabi nya kay Mr. Charlie Garcia. Imbes na kausapin ng
maayos daw ni Charlie si Ruben ay may mga nakarinig na sabi daw ni Charlie sa mga kasamahan nya na "ayusin nyo nga tong
bata nyo ha!" sa sama ng loob daw ni Ruben (malamang sa gutom din at pagod) pinauwi nya mga homeboys na syang lalong
kinagalit ni Charlie. Bumunot daw ng baril si Charlie Garcia habang papalapit kay Ruben, bigla syang inawat at hinawakan ang
kanyang kamay ng kanyang kasamahan dahil baka pagtutok nya ay pumutok yung baril, at ayon daw sa mga nakarinig ay ay sinabihan si Charlie ng kanyang kasamahan na
umaawat ng "sir ang dami naka tingin satin (siguro concern din sya for LAGCOM baka mapahiya), akina yung baril mo at pag usapan natin ng maayos, hindi daw nya binigay gun nya
wag daw sya hawakan at loaded yun", sinukbit daw nya ulit sa bewang nya, sabi daw nung kasamahan ni charlie kakausapin nya si ruben.
na shock daw lahat pati mga R.O. nakiusap na lang daw yung kasamahan ni Charlie sa mga homeboys para tapusin muna match, kaya
ayun nag continue daw ulit ang game. Ayaw na daw sana palakihin ni Ruben, pero ayon sa report ay nag pa blotter na sya sa mga
kinaukulan.

horge
05-18-2009, 19:03
please share your infos para mai-correct ang story kung may error.thanks!
:wow:

Around 1:15pm during a sanctioned game at theVertidos cup, Some shooters witnessed Mr. Charlie Garcia na nagsisigaw
ng "Gusto mo pasabugin ko bao ng ulo mo?!"
Ng alamin ng mga nakakita, ang pinagsasabihan daw nung Charlie ay si Mr. Ruben, caretaker ng range.
According to the info nagrereklamo daw yung mga homeboys dahil sa pansit na pinakain sa kanila nung agahan
tapos nung lunch daw ay kanin at yung pansit ulit ang ulam ang pinakain sa kanila, panis na daw at basa na yung pansit
kaya nagreklamo mga homeboys kay Mr. Ruben na sya namang sinabi nya kay Mr. Charlie Garcia. Imbes na kausapin ng
maayos daw ni Charlie si Ruben ay may mga nakarinig na sabi daw ni Charlie sa mga kasamahan nya na "ayusin nyo nga tong
bata nyo ha!" sa sama ng loob daw ni Ruben (malamang sa gutom din at pagod) pinauwi nya mga homeboys na syang lalong
kinagalit ni Charlie. Bumunot daw ng baril si Charlie Garcia habang papalapit kay Ruben, bigla syang inawat at hinawakan ang
kanyang kamay ng kanyang kasamahan dahil baka pagtutok nya ay pumutok yung baril, at ayon daw sa mga nakarinig ay ay
sinabihan si Charlie ng kanyang kasamahan na umaawat ng "sir ang dami naka tingin satin (siguro concern din sya for LAGCOM
baka mapahiya), akina yung baril mo at pag usapan natin ng maayos, hindi daw nya binigay gun nya wag daw sya
hawakan at loaded yun", sinukbit daw nya ulit sa bewang nya, sabi daw nung kasamahan ni charlie kakausapin nya si ruben.
na shock daw lahat pati mga R.O. nakiusap na lang daw yung kasamahan ni Charlie sa mga homeboys para tapusin muna match, kaya
ayun nag continue daw ulit ang game. Ayaw na daw sana palakihin ni Ruben, pero ayon sa report ay nag pa blotter na sya sa mga
kinaukulan.

Holy smokes. :shocked:
Hearsay though, unless proven otherwise.
Do any of the witnesses providing this account have names?

astig007
05-18-2009, 19:55
you wouldn't hear anything from those who are present because if this incident is true... then it will be a big blow against the shooting community/responsible gun owners...

ans3288
05-18-2009, 19:57
i heard a fellow shooter talking about the walk out, but abt the gun threat incident, no mention of that...

ahtsay
05-18-2009, 22:37
I checked with a shooter that was there...yung nagkwento kay ans3288. It seems that this is just one side of the story. I think it should take more than just "pancit" for a guy to draw his gun. Something must have been said to infuriate the guy. But then again, no matter how angry you are, that's not reason enough to draw your firearm. :) Hintayin natin ang official story nalang.

bulm540
05-19-2009, 19:29
Still not a reason to pull your gun IMO. If true, lifetime ban from PPSA and IPSC.

sandman_sy
05-19-2009, 20:04
Lifetime ban.. Ouch.. never to shoot competitively ... hope its not true he pulled his gun. although ive hear "chismis" stuff like that here in our area.

isuzu
05-19-2009, 21:28
Kawawa ang mga range boys. Nakabilad sa init (or ulan) buong araw, tapos maliit lang ang sahod. Pag suwerte minsan, may tip sa shooters.

I hope gun clubs would put up a trust fund if the range boys want to go to school, and enroll them with Philhealth and SSS.

In my gun club back home, the range boys also eat what we eat during matches.

dbiggershot
05-19-2009, 22:18
yup! gandang opinion yan.. not only that, they also put themselves in risk, kasi nga we are dealing with real guns, and ricochete etc, can be anywhere, paano kung sila tatamaan?..well sino kaya sasagot?..

funds for them or a portion of percentage in the income of ppsa sana e mapunta sa kanila.. isipin na lang ninyo kung saan kaya napupunta yung mga nakukuhang kita ng ppsa sa mga pa sanction natin.. i dont see any effort na masabi ko na karapat dapat nga tayo nagbabayad sa ppsa, samantala the income they get from us, will only be used by the few, and mga malalapit sa paanan ng mga malalakas..

sanction must be given to the ppsa officer who did that "pagbunot at panunutok ng baril".. ppsa must set an example to this fello, otherwise, the essence of ppsa will no longer be that credible

9MX
05-20-2009, 07:51
Still not a reason to pull your gun IMO. If true, lifetime ban from PPSA and IPSC.

yep..that will be the consequence. since i became a member, 2 shooters na ang naban.

if this is true, PPSA should ban the offending party.

Lotiki
05-20-2009, 07:59
Translation or cliff notes for us english speakers?

9MX
05-20-2009, 08:59
Translation or cliff notes for us english speakers?

hi,

to summarize..its an alleged incident involving a gun club president and a shooting range care taker as a match hosted by the gun club was ongoing. the allegation is that when the care taker talked to the club president about the grievances aired by the care taker's crew, specifically about food, the gun club president flared up and pointed a loaded gun at the care taker..that's the allegation

ahtsay
05-20-2009, 09:48
Wow! That's a great summary :) Have you worked for Cliff notes before 9MX??? hehehe!!

mtho
05-20-2009, 10:06
Wow! That's a great summary :) Have you worked for Cliff notes before 9MX??? hehehe!!

yeah thats good..............alaska man:tongueout:

9MX
05-20-2009, 16:13
i don't even know what cliff notes is

paltiq
05-20-2009, 17:36
...oo nga ,considering na may ricochet sa range then eyes nila ang tamaan...then what ... Sorry?:wow:...dapat magkaroon nga fair share ang mga homeboys.....dati BadBoys ang name nila in the 88-early 90s=):cool:

yup! gandang opinion yan.. not only that, they also put themselves in risk, kasi nga we are dealing with real guns, and ricochete etc, can be anywhere, paano kung sila tatamaan?..well sino kaya sasagot?..

funds for them or a portion of percentage in the income of ppsa sana e mapunta sa kanila.. isipin na lang ninyo kung saan kaya napupunta yung mga nakukuhang kita ng ppsa sa mga pa sanction natin.. i dont see any effort na masabi ko na karapat dapat nga tayo nagbabayad sa ppsa, samantala the income they get from us, will only be used by the few, and mga malalapit sa paanan ng mga malalakas..

sanction must be given to the ppsa officer who did that "pagbunot at panunutok ng baril".. ppsa must set an example to this fello, otherwise, the essence of ppsa will no longer be that credible

z_e_n
05-20-2009, 18:34
.....dati BadBoys ang name nila in the 88-early 90s=):cool:

aaaahhhh.... kaya pala badboy tawag sa kanila ni ahts...ganun ka na pala ahts katagal nag shooting? :rofl:

Allegra
05-20-2009, 19:42
i don't even know what cliff notes is


Bakit nga di uso dito satin yan, di ba marunong mangopya sa kaklase mga kano?

On topic:

Next on the Mythbusters -

Ang pancit ay pampahaba ng buhay.....

pogi
05-20-2009, 20:16
i don't even know what cliff notes is

He sings Summer Holiday, Constantly, Vision etc.
Pardon, just trying to lighten up.

mtho
05-20-2009, 20:23
He sings Summer Holiday, Constantly, Vision etc.
Pardon, just trying to lighten up.

di ko na naabutan yan:tongueout:

bulm540
05-20-2009, 21:01
And sometiems those range boys don't even have safety glasses and hearing protection. tsk tsk tsk

jerrytrini
05-20-2009, 21:45
di ko na naabutan yan:tongueout:

Cliff Richard

Allegra
05-20-2009, 22:53
And sometiems those range boys don't even have safety glasses and hearing protection. tsk tsk tsk


Market forces are not in the homeboys favor kasi
As long as their parents keep breeding future homeboys , marami papalit sa kanila if a richochet somehow ends up in their head
Of course , I wouldnt notice , they all look the same to me

Buti pa dun sa old range namin sa bundok
We use mga preso as homeboys
That way pwede na pumutok yung next shooter kahit di pa tapos mag tape ng targets sa dulo ng bay

lagpok
05-20-2009, 23:22
Market forces are not in the homeboys favor kasi
As long as their parents keep breeding future homeboys , marami papalit sa kanila if a richochet somehow ends up in their head
Of course , I wouldnt notice , they all look the same to me

Buti pa dun sa old range namin sa bundok
We use mga preso as homeboys
That way pwede na pumutok yung next shooter kahit di pa tapos mag tape ng targets sa dulo ng bay

i sincerely hope you're joking because where I come from "homeboys" or "presos" are still human beings like you and me.what you wrote really leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Wp.22
05-21-2009, 01:10
Cliff Richard

Manong Jerry I thought of Jose Mari Chan when you posted cliff richard

atmarcella
05-21-2009, 02:17
interesting.... tagged.

ahtsay
05-21-2009, 02:38
i don't even know what cliff notes is

Its what you buy if you don't want to read the book. High school students use this for their book report so that they don't have to read the whole book :supergrin:

mtho
05-21-2009, 09:32
Its what you buy if you don't want to read the book. High school students use this for their book report so that they don't have to read the whole book :supergrin:

here in the philippines we call it comics

Allegra
05-21-2009, 10:17
i sincerely hope you're joking because where I come from "homeboys" or "presos" are still human beings like you and me.what you wrote really leaves a bad taste in the mouth.


Huh? why? di ba mga poor sila?

batangueno
05-21-2009, 10:23
Huh? why? di ba mga poor sila?

:rofl: Hahaha. Sorry ha, hindi ko na talaga mapigilan yung tawa ko eh.

9MX
05-21-2009, 10:59
here in the philippines we call it comics

itong reply mo, para bang nasa ibang bansa si ahtsay:rofl:

Allegra
05-21-2009, 11:06
Maybe it would be better if we just hire kids from public schools as homeboys and gun caddies
Let's start with UP

mtho
05-21-2009, 14:20
itong reply mo, para bang nasa ibang bansa si ahtsay:rofl:

atin atin lang to ha, di ko din alam yung cliff notes eh:tongueout:

bulm540
05-21-2009, 20:18
Huh? why? di ba mga poor sila?
hmmmm.....does that mean they have lesser rights than you do?

isuzu
05-21-2009, 20:39
Huh? why? di ba mga poor sila?

So what if they're poor? They're still human beings.

Allegra
05-21-2009, 21:44
I'm not sure if I will laugh or cry
akala ko ba madaming new members dito haha

Wp.22
05-21-2009, 21:48
I'm not sure if I will laugh or cry
akala ko ba madaming new members dito haha

Fafa A iba kasi ang humor mo eh:supergrin:

bikethief
05-21-2009, 21:53
I'm not sure if I will laugh or cry
akala ko ba madaming new members dito haha


HAHAHAHAHA! Sutil!

Time for a mega-misquote:

"Fight poverty! Kill the poor!" - Allegra

horge
05-21-2009, 22:50
I'm not sure if I will laugh or cry
akala ko ba madaming new members dito haha
When even oldtimers have trouble getting you, maybe
you're doing it wrong. Use emoticons.


HAHAHAHAHA! Sutil!
Time for a mega-misquote:"Fight poverty! Kill the poor!" - Allegra
I believe the classic line goes:
"End poverty. Kill the Poor."
Now, someone cue in the Dead Kennedys.

neviv
05-22-2009, 03:46
In my gun club back home, the range boys also eat what we eat during matches.

ganoon din po kami not only on matches but even clubshoots

Allegra
05-22-2009, 09:00
Sorry if I've offended anyone w/ my eherrrm lack of emoticons
I promise mag donate ako ng basic necessities like free hair highlights sa village ng mga poor here

horge
05-22-2009, 15:57
Sorry if I've offended anyone w/ my eherrrm lack of emoticons
I promise mag donate ako ng basic necessities like free hair highlights sa village ng mga poor here

Ayyyyy, highlights!!!!!
Dati naman akong foor ---puede ba ako diyan?
:aodnsb:

Allegra
05-22-2009, 20:04
Ayyyyy, highlights!!!!!
Dati naman akong foor ---puede ba ako diyan?
:aodnsb:

Wag mo kalimutan yung bonnet mo
Benta mo na ride mo fafa
Mag Wave nalang tayo. Gusto ko yung may sounds ha
Si Glock 9 ang trip ko ngayon e hehe

Ironically, if anyone here ay sumasali na sa tagayan ng gin sa kanto o maglaro ng tatluhan sa basketbol pustahan ng yelo when they were younger
They'll recognize my sense of humor

Siya , jan na kayo at makapagbilang muna ng pera

jerrytrini
05-22-2009, 21:31
Wag mo kalimutan yung bonnet mo
Benta mo na ride mo fafa
Mag Wave nalang tayo. Gusto ko yung may sounds ha
Si Glock 9 ang trip ko ngayon e hehe

Ironically, if anyone here ay sumasali na sa tagayan ng gin sa kanto o maglaro ng tatluhan sa basketbol pustahan ng yelo when they were younger
They'll recognize my sense of humor

Siya , jan na kayo at makapagbilang muna ng pera

Kami walang hielo sa "Cuatro Cantos" ang pulutan manga at alamang. Kung may pera, beer at inihaw na pusit....:rofl::rofl::rofl:

i_am_infinity
05-22-2009, 21:44
Siya , jan na kayo at makapagbilang muna ng pera

pahingi naman...kahit konti lang..:tongueout:

voltaire21
05-30-2009, 19:54
Mga Bros please go back to regular programming :).

Check the developments here:

http://www.pinoyguns.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=12515

atmarcella
05-30-2009, 20:21
meron na decision?

Allegra
05-31-2009, 07:12
Mga Bros please go back to regular programming :).

Check the developments here:

http://www.pinoyguns.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=12515

Kakatamad basahin
masyado madrama mga posts

Lagcom is one of the oldest gunclubs in Laguna
Their members brought my own gunclub out from the dark ages
Let them shoot who they want to shoot