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DLL9mm
05-23-2009, 06:48
I have a stock Glock 29. Stock barrel and springs. Is there any ammo I shouldn't shoot through it besides reloads. I don't plan on using reloads since I don't reload.
??
:whistling:

G33
05-23-2009, 07:21
Whatever your wrist can take.
:supergrin:

Blitzer
05-23-2009, 07:56
Depleted Uranium rounds. :wow: :supergrin:

Merlin390
05-23-2009, 10:36
Reloads are fine just stay away from lead

DLL9mm
05-23-2009, 11:04
Depleted Uranium rounds. :wow: :supergrin:
Damn I just ordered 2 boxes of those. I guess I will just have to sell them on Gunbroker. :supergrin:

Snapper2
05-23-2009, 13:01
Correct me if I'm wrong. Hot factory or handloaded ammo should be fine in an all stock G20 or G29.But I'd tend to worry if I used hot loads in a Glock barrel where I tried to tame the recoil by installing a stronger recoil spring. A tighter bore plus a looser chamber plus a hot charge being held in lockup longer by the stronger recoil spring equals out to more pressure than the gun was designed for. IMO. The factory spring will act as a relief valve for pressure build up. You set that spring tension higher to reduce the slide velocity and to keep the slide from wearing out the frame. Now your putting more pressure on the chamber, and one thats built looser for feed reliability. What happens to the brass?

DLL9mm
05-23-2009, 14:02
There really isn't much recoil when shooting my G29. I have used Silvertips, PMC 200gr.fmjs, Hornady xtp, and DoubleTap 165 and 180gr.Gold dots. I just ordered a box of the DT. 135gr. Nosler HP. So far with all the ammo tested, I would say my G36 that I sold had more recoil Than the Glock 29. The recoil from my G29 is just right, and I can shoot it one handed without an problems.

_The_Shadow
05-23-2009, 15:33
Yep! Don't shoot 41 or 44 magnums they don't fit!

Seriously these G-29 things just work, I shoot my G-29 with the Wolff Guide rod and 21lb spring using Factory loads, Handloads with both jacketed and cast bullets without any problems as of this time. I do use common sense handloading practices!

Twoball
05-25-2009, 21:17
Yep! Don't shoot 41 or 44 magnums they don't fit!

Seriously these G-29 things just work, I shoot my G-29 with the Wolff Guide rod and 21lb spring using Factory loads, Handloads with both jacketed and cast bullets without any problems as of this time. I do use common sense handloading practices!

Where do you buy your reloading supplies in southeast Louisiana ?

_The_Shadow
05-25-2009, 21:33
Many of the people I useto buy from are gone or quit handling reloading supplies.

I buy powder & Primers fro Mark Waggenspack at the local gunshows he has a web site http://www.e-reloading.com/

I have been getting things from MidwayUSA and some other websites as needed also.

Bass Pro in Baton Rouge and Cabela's in Gonzales have some things but I don't get over there often.

How about you?

why
05-26-2009, 05:49
No lead unless they are hardened and no Cu plated bullets. They can/do shrapnel to some degree.

Taterhead
05-26-2009, 22:28
No lead unless they are hardened and no Cu plated bullets. They can/do shrapnel to some degree.


The original poster indicated that he wasn't interested in reloads, but I thought I'd give a quick reply to this post. I've loaded and shot about 1000 rounds of copper plated bullets with good results. A 180 grain Berry's FP at < 1200 fps works well with no signs of "shrapnel" etc. Also, make sure to crimp just enough to remove the bell. There certainly haven't been leading or copper fouling at all through my stock Glock barrel. Thought I'd throw that out there because, by using plated bullets, I have found load that works cleanly in my stock barrel and costs about 16 cents per round to reload. It has been great for "volume" work. Push them too hard or add too much crimp and the plated bullets do become unraveled.

Soft lead through a stock Glock barrel should be avoided. I've had good results (although not extensive experience) shooting hard-cast gas checked bullets in my stock barrel. Only slight leading that cleans up easily.

agtman
05-28-2009, 17:46
I have a stock Glock 29. Stock barrel and springs. Is there any ammo I shouldn't shoot through it besides reloads. I don't plan on using reloads since I don't reload.
??
:whistling:

You definitely should avoid shooting Brokeback Mountain 10mm loads through it - i.e., a 40-level "10mm" load masquarading as a real 10mm. :upeyes: If that's really all the power you want, sell the G29 and get a Glock "Fortie." Otherwise, you're wasting good $$$ on downloaded performance from a larger pistol using a more expensive case. :shocked:

That said, if you want to shoot something besides 10mm ammo out of the G29, you can do that by picking up a dedicated, aftermarket barrel in .40S&W, .357Sig or, IIRC, someone made a barrel chambered in 9x25Dillon for it too. You can still use the stock factory G29 mags for these cartridges as well as the stock G29 recoil assembly.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/agtman/G29-5.jpg

Enjoy. :cool:

DLL9mm
05-28-2009, 18:12
You definitely should avoid shooting Brokeback Mountain 10mm loads through it - i.e., a 40-level "10mm" load masquarading as a real 10mm. :upeyes: If that's really all the power you want, sell the G29 and get a Glock "Fortie." Otherwise, you're wasting good $$$ on downloaded performance from a larger pistol using more expensive case. :shocked:

That said, if you want to shoot something besides 10mm ammo out of the G29, you can do that by picking up a dedicated, aftermarket barrel in .40S&W, .357Sig or, IIRC, someone made a barrel chambered in 9x25Dillon for it too. You can still use the stock factory G29 mags for these cartridges as well as the stock G29 recoil assembly.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/agtman/G29-5.jpg

Enjoy. :cool:
Nice pic. Did you do the finish/polishing yourself? It looks great.

agtman
05-29-2009, 06:12
Nice pic. Did you do the finish/polishing yourself? It looks great.

Thanks.

Not my work. About 6-years ago I sent the slide & barrel off to Robar for refinishing with their NP3 treatment. They NP3-ed the slide, slide internals and the barrel. The work was great and the finish held up. Interestingly, the NP3 shows up in pics as either a bit lighter or darker depending on the lighting.

Myself
05-29-2009, 08:40
I would avoid .17Hr2 and .700 nitro mag. There may be a few other rounds in between that also do not fit. Generally 10mm ammo will work the best.

marshallblaine02
05-29-2009, 08:44
buckshot!

Retired Squid
06-05-2009, 19:07
I have put a lot of lead through polygonal barrels in my life, mostly 22 rifles. Some of the best 22's in the world have had polygonal rifling for decades, and have never had a problem. With 22LR or 10MM the polygonal barrel is not a problem with lead and seems to actually do better with lead then standard rifling. I do use a rather hard cast lead bullet in 10 mm, but just because it has been the best for what I want it to do, penetrating.

The owners manual does not say anything about using lead bullets, all it says is no reloads. That is lawyer speak to reduce law suits from idiots who over load their guns.

My new G29 SL feeds and shoots the LSWC/HP bullet with amazing accuracy and never a FF from the gun, same with my old fat G29 when using LSWC/HP bullets.

Sorry about the previous posting, I was trying to write and hold a 15 month old grandson who likes to push the buttons. :shocked:

4570Lever
06-08-2009, 17:47
If you dont reload, I 'm not sure what you shouldnt be shooting except lead, but what you should be shooting, the most accurate factory load I've experienced in my 29 is Winchester 180 Silvertips.

Retired Squid
06-08-2009, 18:04
If you dont reload, I 'm not sure what you shouldnt be shooting except lead, but what you should be shooting, the most accurate factory load I've experienced in my 29 is Winchester 180 Silvertips.Say what??? That needs to be translated for me.

But lead is no big deal in polygonal barrel of Glock, and actually work better in polygonal barrel over a standard rifling. One has to remember however that when shooting lead you have to keep under 1100 FPS and that is fine for target, but not anything else much.

DLL9mm
06-08-2009, 18:51
So Far I have fired the following ammo through my G29...
Winchester Silvertips
Hornady 180gr. XTP
Winchester Black Talon
PMC 200gr. FMJ
Double Tap 135 gr. Nosler
Double Tap 200gr. FMJ
Double Tap 165gr. Gold dots
Double Tap 180 gr. Gold dots

I am awaiting ammo orders from Georgia Arms and Reeds. I think I may actually might go with the SilverTips for carry, since I can shoot them pretty accurately. The most accurate were probably the Black Talons, that is probably because they are "Weak" compared to the rest. The DT 135gr. Noslers, are probably the most Fun to shoot, because of the loud crack. I haven't had the G29 for a month, and I have 300+ rounds through it. It is my carry gun, so I had to really "Test-it". :supergrin:

Retired Squid
06-08-2009, 21:35
So Far I have fired the following ammo through my G29...
Winchester Silvertips
Hornady 180gr. XTP
Winchester Black Talon
PMC 200gr. FMJ
Double Tap 135 gr. Nosler
Double Tap 200gr. FMJ
Double Tap 165gr. Gold dots
Double Tap 180 gr. Gold dots

I am awaiting ammo orders from Georgia Arms and Reeds. I think I may actually might go with the SilverTips for carry, since I can shoot them pretty accurately. The most accurate were probably the Black Talons, that is probably because they are "Weak" compared to the rest. The DT 135gr. Noslers, are probably the most Fun to shoot, because of the loud crack. I haven't had the G29 for a month, and I have 300+ rounds through it. It is my carry gun, so I had to really "Test-it". :supergrin:

My most accurate loads I loaded for my 29 were;
A. PD was the 135 gr Nosler tripping about 1650 fps.
B. for paper punching was LSWC/HP Hornady 170 gr 1050 fps range.

You should see my 200gr Hornady JHP loads from my 610-3 6.5", makes for a real stopper and are carried in the 610 5" when packing it now.

_The_Shadow
06-09-2009, 07:59
DLL9mm wrote, because of the loud crack.

Hearing Protection!

DLL9mm
06-09-2009, 11:56
DLL9mm wrote,

Hearing Protection!

I had ear protection and my ears were still ringing :supergrin:

Randal45
06-09-2009, 20:02
Has anyone shot 9x25 Dillion ( with the LW conversion barrel ) through their G29? That is the only one that makes me nervous.

_The_Shadow
06-09-2009, 20:17
I shoot the 9x25Dillon from a S&W1006 with a 5" barrel, I find it almost too short for full potential of the cartridge.

I contacted JR of LWD about getting the longer barrel(4.78") made without the ports, he said NO! that the ports are cut early in the machining process. I thing that's a load of crap!

The 4.78" barrel would be much better to get the most from the 9x25Dillon but I don't want any port expelling gas and unburned powder up in front of my line of sight, light breeze blowing back toward the shooter and you get powder in your face, bright flash in your vision, not to mention the excess noise near the shooter.

nitesite10mm
07-20-2009, 19:57
So Far I have fired the following ammo through my G29...
Winchester Silvertips
Hornady 180gr. XTP
Winchester Black Talon
PMC 200gr. FMJ
Double Tap 135 gr. Nosler
Double Tap 200gr. FMJ
Double Tap 165gr. Gold dots
Double Tap 180 gr. Gold dots

I am awaiting ammo orders from Georgia Arms

My Georgia Arms G10B 180-gr Gold Dot ammo chrono's an honest 1185-fps with less than a 7-fps SD from my G29.

Not bad from a short barrelled pistol when the ammo is advertised at 1150-fps. And the consistency is better than most of my handloads, so G10B is what I carry in real life. Oh, it's also accurate!

agtman
07-21-2009, 05:36
My Georgia Arms G10B 180-gr Gold Dot ammo chrono's an honest 1185-fps with less than a 7-fps SD from my G29.

Not bad from a short barrelled pistol when the ammo is advertised at 1150-fps. And the consistency is better than most of my handloads, so G10B is what I carry in real life. Oh, it's also accurate!


I agree.

GA's 180gn GD ammo is good stuff and demonstrates great shot-to-shot consistency. It virtually duplicates the old ProLoad 180 10mm GDHP load, which was spec-ed @ 1200fps/575fpe. The PL 180gn GD was an excellent, and very accurate, mid-range carry or duty load, and was a bit hotter than most in the days before Texas Ammo, DT or Buffalo Bore.

:cool:

Retired Squid
07-21-2009, 06:19
I use a Super-X Silvertip and a quote from one of their adds;

Super-X Silvertip (175gr JHP) offers a unique combination of power, precision, reliable functioning and on-target performance via a specially engineered jacketed bullet. This bullet delivers penetration and rapid energy release with virtually no weight loss or bullet fragmentation. Super-X jacketed hollow points have notched jackets to ensure positive expansion. This ammunition is new production, non-corrosive, in boxer primed, reloadable brass cases.

Muzzle Velocity: 1290 fps
Muzzle Energy: 649 ft. lbs.

This round is absoutely deady accurate, and has never failed to feed in my 10mm handguns and I also use the same brand and type ammo in my Para PXT 14-45 Gun Rights (14+1)) that I use as home defence weapon. This Para is the only gun other then my S&W 10xx pistols to ever load an empty case.

agtman
07-21-2009, 08:16
*** a quote from one of their adds;

Super-X Silvertip (175gr JHP) offers a unique combination of power, precision, reliable functioning and on-target performance via a specially engineered jacketed bullet. This bullet delivers penetration and rapid energy release with virtually no weight loss or bullet fragmentation. Super-X jacketed hollow points have notched jackets to ensure positive expansion. This ammunition is new production, non-corrosive, in boxer primed, reloadable brass cases.

Muzzle Velocity: 1290 fps
Muzzle Energy: 649 ft. lbs.


:upeyes:

Don't believe everything you read. ;) The ST factory load is accurate, but it isn't doing anywhere near that alleged "1290fps" m.v., even from a 5" tube. Winchester's box-flap propaganda is supposedly derived from a 5.5" super-secret test barrel that nobody gets to see.

Out of real-world 10mm pistols, however, the posted chrono results - from 10mm shooters here and on 10mmTalk - have recorded ST velocities falling between 1200fps-1220fps from 5" guns, and between 1180fps-1150fps from G20s (4.6"). Sometimes less, as low as 1140fps from one poster. Plus, you'll see lot-to-lot inconsistency. From the G29's 3.8" tube, the ST's velocity is about the same as a warmish .40 load.

Unfortunately, when compared to DT, Buffalo Bore, CorBon, or even GA, Winchester's 175gn STHPs are little more than a Brokeback Mountain load masquarading as a "10mm." Yeah, it's off-the-shelf availability is attractive, but at the end of the day you've paid more for less: a more expensive case producing downloaded performance, with an outdated 1st Generation 10mm slug. :shocked:

Don't know if he still loads them, but if you want "full power" 10mm STHPs, Ron Reed @ Reed's Ammo used to load them in new brass to an honest 1300fps.

:cool:

Retired Squid
07-21-2009, 10:50
I just bought two boxes couple weeks ago and the two I checked 1283 and 1287 FPS out of my S&W 610-3, I only use those in CCW to help be lawyer proof. Got no idea what they would do out of my G29 as I didn't have it with me. The Crono was a friends and we were checking some hand loads.

I had planned to check the 45 ACP and completely forgot the gun and ammo. I only brought the two factory 10mm rounds with me as they are too expensive to shoot for this old fart. All the other ammo checked was lead hand loads for 10mm, 44 mag and 357 and his 40 cal and 45 Colt.

agtman
07-21-2009, 12:11
I just bought two boxes couple weeks ago and the two I checked 1283 and 1287 FPS out of my S&W 610-3, I only use those in CCW to help be lawyer proof. Got no idea what they would do out of my G29 as I didn't have it with me. The Crono was a friends and we were checking some hand loads.

So that was 1283fps and 1287fps from the 6.5" barrel of your 610-3 wheelgun? (assuming it was the one referenced in your Sig-line?)

That pretty much confirms my references to other's chrono results w/ the STHPs. Just to get to 1287fps, the 175gn STHP needed a 6.5" bore. And that's a real 6.5" of barrel within which the gas is working the bullet.

Don't forget the difference between measuring auto versus revolver barrels. With the latter, you're measuring the pure bore length which the bullet traverses on its way to the muzzle (6.5"). While with an auto, the given "barrel" length (4.6") includes the chamber. Since the bullet never traverses the chamber, that means there's less actual rifled bore involved to generate the velocity than the stated barrel length.

So, as I noted earlier, Winchester's velocity specs appear to be suspect, since no one knows what kind of factory "test barrel" they're using, and whether the 5.5" is all pure rifled bore or is a regular auto barrel that includes a chamber or breech. :dunno:

:cool:

Retired Squid
07-21-2009, 12:37
So that was 1283fps and 1287fps from the 6.5" barrel of your 610-3 wheelgun? (assuming it was the one referenced in your Sig-line?)

That pretty much confirms my references to other's chrono results w/ the STHPs. Just to get to 1287fps, the 175gn STHP needed a 6.5" bore. And that's a real 6.5" of barrel within which the gas is working the bullet.

Don't forget the difference between measuring auto versus revolver barrels. With the latter, you're measuring the pure bore length which the bullet traverses on its way to the muzzle (6.5"). While with an auto, the given "barrel" length (4.6") includes the chamber. Since the bullet never traverses the chamber, that means there's less actual rifled bore involved to generate the velocity than the stated barrel length.

So, as I noted earlier, Winchester's velocity specs appear to be suspect, since no one knows what kind of factory "test barrel" they're using, and whether the 5.5" is all pure rifled bore or is a regular auto barrel that includes a chamber or breech. :dunno:

:cool:Well most handguns ammo is tested in 5" to 6" barrels and I doubt that the G29 would drop more then 5% with its 3.5" barrel. Rememer in a revolver you have a big drop cause by the cylinder and barrel gap which is .008" in the 610-3 and S&W said that is in spec as far as they are concerned. My 610 no dash 5" has a .0035" gap, and test barrels are basically rifles or if an actual will be the more common model for that caliber. I was figuring the G29 would be clocking about 1200 FPS or maybe a tad more even, but the difference in being shot by 10mm going 1200 FPS or 1300 FPS ain't squat I would imagine.

I really think you guys may be picking nits here, but everyone is intitled to their own opinion. If I ever have to pull my G29 on a guy he will get all ten anyway, as I will be crazy with fear most likely.

Taterhead
07-21-2009, 16:00
:upeyes:

Don't believe everything you read. ;) The ST factory load is accurate, but it isn't doing anywhere near that alleged "1290fps" m.v., even from a 5" tube. Winchester's box-flap propaganda is supposedly derived from a 5.5" super-secret test barrel that nobody gets to see.

Out of real-world 10mm pistols, however, the posted chrono results - from 10mm shooters here and on 10mmTalk - have recorded ST velocities falling between 1200fps-1220fps from 5" guns, and between 1180fps-1150fps from G20s (4.6"). Sometimes less, as low as 1140fps from one poster. Plus, you'll see lot-to-lot inconsistency. From the G29's 3.8" tube, the ST's velocity is about the same as a warmish .40 load.

Unfortunately, when compared to DT, Buffalo Bore, CorBon, or even GA, Winchester's 175gn STHPs are little more than a Brokeback Mountain load masquarading as a "10mm." Yeah, it's off-the-shelf availability is attractive, but at the end of the day you've paid more for less: a more expensive case producing downloaded performance, with an outdated 1st Generation 10mm slug. :shocked:

Don't know if he still loads them, but if you want "full power" 10mm STHPs, Ron Reed @ Reed's Ammo used to load them in new brass to an honest 1300fps.

:cool:

+1 on the STip eval. I can confirm that the velocities from a stock G20 barrel (22 lb spring) are 1148 as measured from 15 feet. This was a wee-bit less than the factory claim.

_The_Shadow
07-21-2009, 16:44
One thing is for sure, each gun is different, and each barrel, its length, rifling style and its condition (oil or lube, rust, fouling or leading) will all have affects on what ever ammo you put thru it. Velocities can be affected by temps; humidity’s and air pressure for a given elevation as well.

Having a Chronograph is a useful tool in comparison of to substaniate manufacture's claims and what the actual performance is thru your own pistols. Why is this important? The ability of a particular bullet to do work and how much energy is determined by the velocities to which they obtain.

How this energy is delivered is determined by the bullet's design and construction within a given window of velocity, being too low or too high, the actual performance can change the dynamics of the design.

None of this means squat if you can't place the round where it will be most effective for it to work!

Retired Squid
07-21-2009, 16:59
I have 200gr 44 Mag running about 1550 FPS out of my 8" Dan Wesson and trying to work it to its limit. My guess is 1700 FPS range. But you want to see some 180 gr or 200 gr loads zip, try my 16.25" Marlin.

All traditional 1911's have a two piece feed ramp and like Glock they do not have fully supported chamber, my Para has a full supported match grade chamber and one piece feed ramp. Looking forward to working up some hot loads for that baby, maybe some 1100 FPS 230 or some 1250/1300 FPS 200 gr loads.

DLL9mm
07-21-2009, 19:03
I like the Winchester SilverTips. I can shoot them very well outta my Glock 29. I previously carried Double Tap 180gr. Gold Dots, but switched back to SilverTips.

Deep Nylon
05-07-2010, 09:47
I like the Winchester SilverTips. I can shoot them very well outta my Glock 29. I previously carried Double Tap 180gr. Gold Dots, but switched back to SilverTips.

Why did you switch back, if I may ask?

Retired Squid
05-07-2010, 11:03
I like the Win Silver Tip because of being able at a glance to see I have my carry ammo, and not a handload, it has good performance, and for me easy to find.

That said I would rather carry my own loads, Nosler 180gr would probably first choice. They are only about 15 cents each on average.

hill billy
05-07-2010, 12:27
I like the Win Silver Tip because of being able at a glance to see I have my carry ammo, and not a handload, it has good performance, and for me easy to find.

That said I would rather carry my own loads, Nosler 180gr would probably first choice. They are only about 15 cents each on average.

Out of curiosity, why don't you carry your own loads?

Kegs
05-07-2010, 13:02
You can still use the stock factory G29 mags for these cartridges as well as the stock G29 recoil assembly.


Except that the stock recoil spring assembly isn't designed for real 10mm loads - mine shoots brass 25' away with the stock assembly.

I love the G29, but I could have put together a titanium caspian double stack in 10mm for what this thing is going to cost me after I add all the stuff it needs to be a sweet shooter. :rofl:

Retired Squid
05-07-2010, 13:18
Out of curiosity, why don't you carry your own loads?

My luck is a lawyer would try to turn the tables on me in a case of SD, that I was carrying "super killer" ammo.

May start carrying my own if things were to get crazy like in southern AZ.

I generally run the Nosler 180's at 11 gr of BD and Win/CCI LP primers. This load is easy on the Glocks and Colt, but if I were carrying my 610 I would be carrying them loaded to about 12 gr of BD or tad more.

hill billy
05-07-2010, 13:22
but if I were carrying my 610 I would be carrying them loaded to about 12 gr of BD or tad more.

Ooooh sally, that's a stiff load. I like it but shoot it VERY sparingly.:cool:

cowboywannabe
05-07-2010, 13:30
whats a good after market recoil rod and spring assy for the G29 when using real 10mm level loads?

hill billy
05-07-2010, 13:35
whats a good after market recoil rod and spring assy for the G29 when using real 10mm level loads?

Wolff makes the spring and I think the two piece rod. I run a 23b spring. Keeps the brass down to a manageable 10 feet or so.

chemboy
05-07-2010, 13:45
Interesting thread.
I was just out shooting my G29SF for the first time-175 grain Silvertips and also a box of Bitteroot Valley? 180 gr FMJs.
The recoil was not really too bad, and accuracy quite good, especially with the Silvertips.
Didn't bring my chronograph with me, but I would imagine I am getting a smidge over 1100 fps with the Silvertips.

cowboywannabe
05-07-2010, 13:49
Wolff makes the spring and I think the two piece rod. I run a 23b spring. Keeps the brass down to a manageable 10 feet or so.

i only found stock stuff from them....got a link to the rod assy and heavy spring?

Retired Squid
05-07-2010, 14:30
Ooooh sally, that's a stiff load. I like it but shoot it VERY sparingly.:cool:It does have a bark, but very good accuracy in the 6.5" N frame. I tried a couple in the C2 Contender with 10" barrel and muzzle hop was really bad. Have not shot any of the 12gr in my Glock 20/29 or my Colt DE and not planning to even though these guns all have Wolff springs IIRC 21# in DE and 23# Glocks, but I would have to check to be sure.

The 610 handles the load fine and there seems little difference between the 11gr and 12 gr loads in recoil or noise.

hill billy
05-07-2010, 14:42
i only found stock stuff from them....got a link to the rod assy and heavy spring?
Let me look.
It does have a bark, but very good accuracy in the 6.5" N frame. I tried a couple in the C2 Contender with 10" barrel and muzzle hop was really bad. Have not shot any of the 12gr in my Glock 20/29 or my Colt DE and not planning to even though these guns all have Wolff springs IIRC 21# in DE and 23# Glocks, but I would have to check to be sure.

The 610 handles the load fine and there seems little difference between the 11gr and 12 gr loads in recoil or noise.

I shoot it in my G20. It seems to be fine, I'm just nervous. :supergrin:

hill billy
05-07-2010, 14:44
i only found stock stuff from them....got a link to the rod assy and heavy spring?

http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=1&mID=5#123

Let it load all the way and it should take you to spring and guide rod combos.

Go down to the list for 29/30/36 and scroll to 21 or 23lb spring.

I run this and have been very happy with it. I load my personal stuff, uhm, very hot.

cowboywannabe
05-07-2010, 15:49
thanks HB, got a 21 pound spring and rod assy ordered just now.


seems the stock G29 spring is only 15 pounds?!

hill billy
05-07-2010, 15:50
thanks HB, got a 21 pound spring and rod assy ordered just now.


seems the stock G29 spring is only 15 pounds?!

I seem to recall it's 17 but maybe that was my G20.

Retired Squid
05-07-2010, 16:18
Let me look.


I shoot it in my G20. It seems to be fine, I'm just nervous. :supergrin:Relax the G20 with 19# to 21# spring will be fine for service use, range shooting you might want to bump the # up a couple notches.

IIRC 17# is factory on G 20/29 a bump to 23# might be problem for relibability on most factory ammo.

Or carry a big old N frame Smith. :tongueout:

cowboywannabe
05-07-2010, 16:35
the G20 is a 17 pounder as stock, i have a 22 in mine now. the wolff site had a 15 pound option....but it lists the same part number for the G36, 29, and 30 so maybe thats the standard for the .45acp

eitherway i have a 22 in my 20 and a 21 on the way for my 29.

hill billy
05-07-2010, 17:07
Relax the G20 with 19# to 21# spring will be fine for service use, range shooting you might want to bump the # up a couple notches.

IIRC 17# is factory on G 20/29 a bump to 23# might be problem for relibability on most factory ammo.

Or carry a big old N frame Smith. :tongueout:

Yeaaahh. 12 grains of Blue Dot over a 180 gr bullet is a big load for any 10mm. In any case I run a 22 in my G20.

Retired Squid
05-07-2010, 18:31
Yeaaahh. 12 grains of Blue Dot over a 180 gr bullet is a big load for any 10mm. In any case I run a 22 in my G20.You can't get enough BD into a case to even strain the cylinder on the 610, and depending on mfg of the HP bullet use you probably could not get bullet to seat deep enough to get 1.280" let alone the 1.260 standard OAL. I think it was some GD 180gr bullets that would not seat below about 1.280" or 1.290" and ended up back down to 11.2 or 11.3 grains of BD to proper seat the bullet and the rounds didn't group, they patterned. :wow:

Kegs
05-08-2010, 06:59
Yeaaahh. 12 grains of Blue Dot over a 180 gr bullet is a big load for any 10mm. In any case I run a 22 in my G20.

:supergrin:

PATRICE
05-08-2010, 07:56
.....

uz2bUSMC
05-08-2010, 12:31
Hhmmm...I wonder if the bm remark was really warranted???

[#15]

There's worse things to be said about the annoyingly downloaded 10mm ammo.

hill billy
05-08-2010, 12:51
There's worse things to be said about the annoyingly downloaded 10mm ammo.

I thought the comment was apt. Hope I don't get another infraction. :supergrin:

oldgraygeek
05-08-2010, 12:51
I use Georgia Arms G10E 165gr for practice -- I like the higher velocity rounds -- and I carry DoubleTap.

fifty2you
05-08-2010, 16:45
The Norma 10mm load! And hold on tight

Retired Squid
05-08-2010, 18:48
The Norma 10mm load! And hold on tightActually those are not bad if proper springs are in the gun, try some BD @ 11+ grains with a 180 JHP on top. Well in a light 10" T/C G2 it has a lot of recoil jump, more then my Glocks, S&W's and Colt.

Ak.Hiker
05-08-2010, 23:53
So who is going to be number 16?

Kegs
05-09-2010, 19:47
Hhmmm...I wonder if the bm remark was really warranted???

[#15]

I wonder if you shoot a gun that chambers 10mm. :wavey:

[#8:40]

gatorboy
05-27-2010, 00:48
Sorry, misunderstood a quote I had up and replied to.