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Beware Owner
07-04-2009, 07:08
Hispanic Americans in World War II
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Major General Pedro del Valle (second from left) is greeted by Colonel "Chesty" Puller on Pavuvu in late October 1944, while Major General William H. Rupertus (far left) looks on.Hispanic Americans fought in every major battle in the European Theatre of World War II in which the armed forces of the United States were involved, from North Africa to the Battle of the Bulge, and in the Pacific Theater of Operations, from Bataan to Okinawa. According to the National World War II Museum, between 250,000 and 500,000 Hispanic Americans served in the U.S. Armed Forces during WWII, out of a total of 12,000,000, constituting 2.3% to 4.7% of the U.S. Armed Forces. The exact number is unknown as, at the time, Hispanics were integrated into the general white population census count. Separate statistics were kept for African-Americans and Asian-Americans.

On December 7, 1941, when the United States officially entered the war, Hispanic Americans were among the many American citizens who joined the ranks of the Army, Navy and Marine Corps as volunteers or through the draft. Not only did Hispanics serve as active combatants in the European and Pacific Theatres of war, but they also served on the home front as civilians. Hundreds of Hispanic women joined the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps (WAACs) and Women Accepted for Volunteer Emergency Service (WAVES), serving as nurses and in administrative positions. Many worked in the manufacturing plants that produced munitions and material, while the men who usually performed this work were away at war.

When conscription was increased some Puerto Ricans from the island were assigned as replacements to units in the Panama Canal Zone and British Caribbean islands that were made up mostly of continental (United States mainland) soldiers; however, most Puerto Ricans and Hispanics residing in Puerto Rico were assigned to the 65th Infantry Regiment or to the Puerto Rico National Guard. These were the only all-Hispanic units whose statistics were kept; hence, it is known that over 53,000 Puerto Ricans and Hispanics who resided on the island served in the war. According to Senator Robert Menendez, more than 9,000 Latinos died in the defense of the United States in World War II. Owing to the lack of documentation, the exact number of Hispanics who died in the conflict is unknown.

Generals
Major General del Valle

Lieutenant General Pedro del ValleLieutenant General Pedro Augusto del Valle (1893–1978), as a Colonel was the Commanding Officer of the 11th Marine Regiment (artillery). Upon the outbreak of World War II, del Valle led his regiment during the seizure and defense of Guadalcanal, providing artillery support for the 1st Marine Division. In the Battle of the Tenaru, the fire power provided by del Valle's artillery units killed many assaulting Japanese soldiers—almost to the last man—before they reached the Marine positions. As a result of the outcome of the battle Japanese commander, Colonel Ichiki Kiyonao, committed seppuku shortly afterwards. General Alexander Vandegrift, impressed with del Valle's leadership, recommended his promotion and on October 1, 1942, del Valle became a Brigadier General. Vandegrift retained del Valle as head of the 11th Marines, the only time that the 11th Marines has ever had a general as their commanding officer. In 1943, he served as Commander of Marine Forces overseeing Guadalcanal, Tulagi, and the Russell and Florida Islands.

On April 1, 1944, del Valle, as Commanding General of the Third Corps Artillery, III Marine Amphibious Corps, took part in the Battle of Guam and was awarded a Gold Star in lieu of a second Legion of Merit. The men under his command did such a good job with their heavy artillery that no one man could be singled out for commendation. Instead each man was given a letter of commendation by del Valle, which was carried in his record books.

In late October 1944, del Valle succeeded Major General William Rupertus as Commanding General of the 1st Marine Division, being personally greeted to his new command by Colonel Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller. At the time, the 1st Marine Division was training on the island of Pavuvu for the invasion of Okinawa. On May 29, 1945, del Valle participated in one of the most important events that led to victory in Okinawa. After five weeks of fighting, del Valle ordered Company A of the 1st Battalion 5th Marines to capture Shuri Castle, a medieval fortress of the ancient Ryukyuan kings. Seizure of Shuri Castle represented a morale blow for the Japanese and was a milestone in the Okinawa campaign. The fighting in Okinawa would continue for 24 more days. Del Valle was awarded a Distinguished Service Medal for his leadership during the battle and the subsequent occupation and reorganization of Okinawa.

Brigadier General Quesada

Brig. Gen. Elwood R. QuesadaLieutenant General Elwood R. “Pete” Quesada, (1904–1993) was assigned as a Brigadier General in October 1940 to intelligence in the Office of the Chief of Air Corps. He became commanding general of the 9th Fighter Command where he established advanced headquarters on the Normandy beachhead on D-Day plus one, and directed his planes in aerial cover and air support for the Allied invasion of the European continent. He was the foremost proponent of "the inherent flexibility of air power", a principle he helped prove during World War II.

In December 1942, Quesada took the First Air Defense Wing to North Africa. Shortly thereafter, he was given command of the XII Fighter Command and in this capacity would work out the mechanics of close air support and Army-Air Force cooperation.

The successful integration of air and land forces in the Tunisia campaign forged by Quesada and the Allied leaders became a blueprint for operations incorporated into Army Air Forces field regulations—FM 100-20, "Command and Employment of Air Power," first published on July 21, 1943—and provided the Allies with their first victory in the European war. Principles such as the co-equality of ground and air force commanders, centralized command of tactical aircraft to exploit "the inherent flexibility of air power," and the attainment of air superiority over the battlefield as a prerequisite for successful ground operations formed the core of tactical air doctrine. In October 1943, Quesada assumed command of the IX Fighter Command in England, and his forces provided air cover for the landings on Normandy Beach. Among Quesada’s many military decorations were the Distinguished Service Medal with oak leaf cluster; Distinguished Flying Cross; Purple Heart and an Air Medal with two Silver Stars.

Major General Terry de la Mesa Allen

Brigadier General Terry de la Mesa AllenMajor General Terry de la Mesa Allen, Sr. (1888–1969) was the son of Colonel Samuel Edward Allen and Conchita Alvarez de la Mesa. During World War II he was the commanding general of the 1st Infantry Division in North Africa and Sicily, and was made commander of the 104th Infantry Division. While in North Africa Allen and his deputy 1st Division Commander, Brigadier General Theodore Roosevelt Jr. distinguished themselves as combat leaders. Allen was re-assigned to the 104th Infantry Division. The 104th Infantry Division landed in France on September 7, 1944 and fought for 195 consecutive days during World War II. The division's nickname came from its timberwolf shoulder insignia. Some 34,000 men served with the division under Allen who came to be nicknamed "Terrible Terry". The division was particularly renowned for its night fighting prowess.

Is the hispanic hating only in the general public?

2952
07-04-2009, 08:34
Americans do not like any nationality that breaks the law and comes into this Country illegally. They also do not like people who trash the area they live in no matter their color - White, Black, Brown, Yellow or whatever. They also do not like people who make no effort to learn English.

Beware Owner
07-04-2009, 08:53
Americans do not like any nationality that breaks the law and comes into this Country illegally. They also do not like people who trash the area they live in no matter their color - White, Black, Brown, Yellow or whatever. They also do not like people who make no effort to learn English.

Is that what these people did?

mjkeat
07-04-2009, 09:32
Hispanic Americans in World War II
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Major General Pedro del Valle (second from left) is greeted by Colonel "Chesty" Puller on Pavuvu in late October 1944, while Major General William H. Rupertus (far left) looks on.Hispanic Americans fought in every major battle in the European Theatre of World War II in which the armed forces of the United States were involved, from North Africa to the Battle of the Bulge, and in the Pacific Theater of Operations, from Bataan to Okinawa. According to the National World War II Museum, between 250,000 and 500,000 Hispanic Americans served in the U.S. Armed Forces during WWII, out of a total of 12,000,000, constituting 2.3% to 4.7% of the U.S. Armed Forces. The exact number is unknown as, at the time, Hispanics were integrated into the general white population census count. Separate statistics were kept for African-Americans and Asian-Americans.

On December 7, 1941, when the United States officially entered the war, Hispanic Americans were among the many American citizens who joined the ranks of the Army, Navy and Marine Corps as volunteers or through the draft. Not only did Hispanics serve as active combatants in the European and Pacific Theatres of war, but they also served on the home front as civilians. Hundreds of Hispanic women joined the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps (WAACs) and Women Accepted for Volunteer Emergency Service (WAVES), serving as nurses and in administrative positions. Many worked in the manufacturing plants that produced munitions and material, while the men who usually performed this work were away at war.

When conscription was increased some Puerto Ricans from the island were assigned as replacements to units in the Panama Canal Zone and British Caribbean islands that were made up mostly of continental (United States mainland) soldiers; however, most Puerto Ricans and Hispanics residing in Puerto Rico were assigned to the 65th Infantry Regiment or to the Puerto Rico National Guard. These were the only all-Hispanic units whose statistics were kept; hence, it is known that over 53,000 Puerto Ricans and Hispanics who resided on the island served in the war. According to Senator Robert Menendez, more than 9,000 Latinos died in the defense of the United States in World War II. Owing to the lack of documentation, the exact number of Hispanics who died in the conflict is unknown.

Generals
Major General del Valle

Lieutenant General Pedro del ValleLieutenant General Pedro Augusto del Valle (1893–1978), as a Colonel was the Commanding Officer of the 11th Marine Regiment (artillery). Upon the outbreak of World War II, del Valle led his regiment during the seizure and defense of Guadalcanal, providing artillery support for the 1st Marine Division. In the Battle of the Tenaru, the fire power provided by del Valle's artillery units killed many assaulting Japanese soldiers—almost to the last man—before they reached the Marine positions. As a result of the outcome of the battle Japanese commander, Colonel Ichiki Kiyonao, committed seppuku shortly afterwards. General Alexander Vandegrift, impressed with del Valle's leadership, recommended his promotion and on October 1, 1942, del Valle became a Brigadier General. Vandegrift retained del Valle as head of the 11th Marines, the only time that the 11th Marines has ever had a general as their commanding officer. In 1943, he served as Commander of Marine Forces overseeing Guadalcanal, Tulagi, and the Russell and Florida Islands.

On April 1, 1944, del Valle, as Commanding General of the Third Corps Artillery, III Marine Amphibious Corps, took part in the Battle of Guam and was awarded a Gold Star in lieu of a second Legion of Merit. The men under his command did such a good job with their heavy artillery that no one man could be singled out for commendation. Instead each man was given a letter of commendation by del Valle, which was carried in his record books.

In late October 1944, del Valle succeeded Major General William Rupertus as Commanding General of the 1st Marine Division, being personally greeted to his new command by Colonel Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller. At the time, the 1st Marine Division was training on the island of Pavuvu for the invasion of Okinawa. On May 29, 1945, del Valle participated in one of the most important events that led to victory in Okinawa. After five weeks of fighting, del Valle ordered Company A of the 1st Battalion 5th Marines to capture Shuri Castle, a medieval fortress of the ancient Ryukyuan kings. Seizure of Shuri Castle represented a morale blow for the Japanese and was a milestone in the Okinawa campaign. The fighting in Okinawa would continue for 24 more days. Del Valle was awarded a Distinguished Service Medal for his leadership during the battle and the subsequent occupation and reorganization of Okinawa.

Brigadier General Quesada

Brig. Gen. Elwood R. QuesadaLieutenant General Elwood R. “Pete” Quesada, (1904–1993) was assigned as a Brigadier General in October 1940 to intelligence in the Office of the Chief of Air Corps. He became commanding general of the 9th Fighter Command where he established advanced headquarters on the Normandy beachhead on D-Day plus one, and directed his planes in aerial cover and air support for the Allied invasion of the European continent. He was the foremost proponent of "the inherent flexibility of air power", a principle he helped prove during World War II.

In December 1942, Quesada took the First Air Defense Wing to North Africa. Shortly thereafter, he was given command of the XII Fighter Command and in this capacity would work out the mechanics of close air support and Army-Air Force cooperation.

The successful integration of air and land forces in the Tunisia campaign forged by Quesada and the Allied leaders became a blueprint for operations incorporated into Army Air Forces field regulations—FM 100-20, "Command and Employment of Air Power," first published on July 21, 1943—and provided the Allies with their first victory in the European war. Principles such as the co-equality of ground and air force commanders, centralized command of tactical aircraft to exploit "the inherent flexibility of air power," and the attainment of air superiority over the battlefield as a prerequisite for successful ground operations formed the core of tactical air doctrine. In October 1943, Quesada assumed command of the IX Fighter Command in England, and his forces provided air cover for the landings on Normandy Beach. Among Quesada’s many military decorations were the Distinguished Service Medal with oak leaf cluster; Distinguished Flying Cross; Purple Heart and an Air Medal with two Silver Stars.

Major General Terry de la Mesa Allen

Brigadier General Terry de la Mesa AllenMajor General Terry de la Mesa Allen, Sr. (1888–1969) was the son of Colonel Samuel Edward Allen and Conchita Alvarez de la Mesa. During World War II he was the commanding general of the 1st Infantry Division in North Africa and Sicily, and was made commander of the 104th Infantry Division. While in North Africa Allen and his deputy 1st Division Commander, Brigadier General Theodore Roosevelt Jr. distinguished themselves as combat leaders. Allen was re-assigned to the 104th Infantry Division. The 104th Infantry Division landed in France on September 7, 1944 and fought for 195 consecutive days during World War II. The division's nickname came from its timberwolf shoulder insignia. Some 34,000 men served with the division under Allen who came to be nicknamed "Terrible Terry". The division was particularly renowned for its night fighting prowess.

Is the hispanic hating only in the general public?


I know that after joining the Army my world was opened up to many more cultures. The military has rules and regulations that are much more strict when dealing with race issues. So the people who tend to "hate" others due to their color either learn to get along with others or are dealt with. In my mos there wasn't a whole lot of room for hate. Plus we spent so much time together everyone became close. Not to mention the unit I was a part of deployed often. All of you that have been deployed as a or with 11Bs know all to well the amount of time you spend together and the cramp quarters in which you live. Its impossible not to gain respect for things you were not accustomed to as a civilian.

As for as the comment about the general public hating Hispanics. I think its not so much that people hate the Hispanic race. Many Americans are very proud and territorial of what their ancestors fought for. And to touch on what 2952 said many Americans find it troublesome that a person coming into a country that speaks a different language wont make an effort to learn that country's native language. Therefor that country then has to alter its normal routine to accommodate these new people. Go into a Lowes everything is bilingual. Not a huge deal to me but please just make an effort to learn the countries national language. On the issue of trashing the area you live in. I live in an area of the city that Id consider middle/middle class. Its our first home and it fit our budget and is nice. It just so happens the area leaves a lot to be desired. The neighborhood is very diverse so I see a lot of different things. I think "trashing" the area you live in is not a race specific problem. Some people just don't care. The same goes for braking the law. Some people just don't care.

Beware Owner
07-06-2009, 12:49
I know that after joining the Army my world was opened up to many more cultures. The military has rules and regulations that are much more strict when dealing with race issues. So the people who tend to "hate" others due to their color either learn to get along with others or are dealt with. In my mos there wasn't a whole lot of room for hate. Plus we spent so much time together everyone became close. Not to mention the unit I was a part of deployed often. All of you that have been deployed as a or with 11Bs know all to well the amount of time you spend together and the cramp quarters in which you live. Its impossible not to gain respect for things you were not accustomed to as a civilian.

As for as the comment about the general public hating Hispanics. I think its not so much that people hate the Hispanic race. Many Americans are very proud and territorial of what their ancestors fought for. And to touch on what 2952 said many Americans find it troublesome that a person coming into a country that speaks a different language wont make an effort to learn that country's native language. Therefor that country then has to alter its normal routine to accommodate these new people. Go into a Lowes everything is bilingual. Not a huge deal to me but please just make an effort to learn the countries national language. On the issue of trashing the area you live in. I live in an area of the city that Id consider middle/middle class. Its our first home and it fit our budget and is nice. It just so happens the area leaves a lot to be desired. The neighborhood is very diverse so I see a lot of different things. I think "trashing" the area you live in is not a race specific problem. Some people just don't care. The same goes for braking the law. Some people just don't care.

I can feel the concern about learning the language and not trashing your surroundings. I am for both of those, however, how many americans expect others to master a language they haven't mastered themselves yet? I can't listen to someone who tells others to learn english when they're talking about as redneck and ghetto as possible, to a point you can barely understand them. Been to the ghetto? Trashed. Trailer park? Trashed. You and I understand the principle of the problem being what the person does, and not the person per se, but, if three people are doing the same thing, why is it ok for two to do it, and the other one not? I mean, you get to the point where you wonder if those who hate them even know what they're talking about in the first place. Have you seen someone call a colombian a mexican, telling them to go home, to then be ashamed to have that hispanic speak perfect english to them and tell them this is their home? I have. They look very stupid.

Javelin
07-06-2009, 13:00
There is nothing wrong with Hispanic nations and their heritage. They are a proud people and should be given all the respect in the world.

But that said, I don't agree with people breaking the law and entering the US illegally. These people that do this type of activity make a bad name for those folks from other countries who do choose to follow the laws of the US.

:wavey:

Beware Owner
07-06-2009, 13:05
There is nothing wrong with Hispanic nations and their heritage. They are a proud people and should be given all the respect in the world.

But that said, I don't agree with people breaking the law and entering the US illegally. These people that do this type of activity make a bad name for those folks from other countries who do choose to follow the laws of the US.

:wavey:

Good. Are we making a distinction between hispanics and illegal immigrants?

Javelin
07-06-2009, 13:18
Good. Are we making a distinction between hispanics and illegal immigrants?

After living in Texas it is pretty important that you do. But even so it is never good to hate. Hate is a cancer.

:wavey:

Beware Owner
07-06-2009, 13:20
After living in Texas it is pretty important that you do. But even so it is never good to hate. Hate is a cancer.

:wavey:

Thou hath spoken the truth.

crazypilot
07-06-2009, 13:36
Is the hispanic hating only in the general public?

I think so. I mean when I went through basic training in the AF, we had people that made racist remarks and didn't really like other races much. But as time went on and they got to know me, I'm Puerto Rican, and they opened up. The remarks went away and they actually started telling me stories about KKK meetings and/or how their families raised them. I'm really good friends with some of these guys that made those remarks.

I think the hate is geared toward those that don't learn the language, come in illegally and join the gangs. America is the greatest nation in the world and it's sad that we can't protect our border. That scares everyone because it can be a terrorist crossing those borders.

DrMark
07-06-2009, 13:48
This is a really weird thread.

Who hates Hispanics?

nursetim
07-06-2009, 14:12
redacted

22rtf2
07-06-2009, 14:28
Americans do not like any nationality that breaks the law and comes into this Country illegally. They also do not like people who trash the area they live in no matter their color - White, Black, Brown, Yellow or whatever. They also do not like people who make no effort to learn English.

Hey, my father is Puerto Rican, was born in PR and was born an AMERICAN CITIZEN.

You may want to look up what a commonwealth is.

1 old 0311
07-06-2009, 15:54
Having spent two years, as a Marine Grunt in Vietnam, I can say that Hispanics fought better, as a group, than Whites, Blacks, or Asians.

I NEVER saw one 'spaz out,' or screw off on patrol. They had my respect.

gruntmedik
07-06-2009, 16:40
When I was active duty USMC, there were only 2 colors of Marines---Light Green, and Dark Green.

Beware Owner
07-09-2009, 11:48
I think so. I mean when I went through basic training in the AF, we had people that made racist remarks and didn't really like other races much. But as time went on and they got to know me, I'm Puerto Rican, and they opened up. The remarks went away and they actually started telling me stories about KKK meetings and/or how their families raised them. I'm really good friends with some of these guys that made those remarks.

I think the hate is geared toward those that don't learn the language, come in illegally and join the gangs. America is the greatest nation in the world and it's sad that we can't protect our border. That scares everyone because it can be a terrorist crossing those borders.

Good answer.

This is a really weird thread.

Who hates Hispanics?

You've GOT to be kidding me.

The only ax I have to grind is with Illegal aliens. The term does not specify race, creed, gender, or country of origin. Even then I don't hate them. No, I don't think the general public hates Hispanics. I think they hate the illegal nature of their presence here. If they had entered legally, I don't think there would be a problem, or as big of one at least. I think they resent the social services that some usurp, but that goes for the native born as well.

I am irritated by them. In the case of Hispanics It irritates me to no end when I ask if they speak English and they say no. Then I ask them in Spanish how long they have been in the US. When they say anything longer than 5 years, I start to berate them in Spanish for not learning the language of the country they live in.

I have lived and worked in Thailand and Korea. I have made the effort to learn the language of both and I consider myself lazy.

See. Here is where the dissention begins. You think the general public hates the illegal nature of Hispanic presence here. It is not against the law to speak spanish in this country, so it is not illegal to be hispanic. I simply cannot see the correlation, or how you put a hispanic with an illegal in the same box. They're NOT one and the same. By that, you're saying that the other service members, even in this thread, are illegal aliens that usurp social services.

However....you do have a great point in reference to learning the language of the country they inhabit. There is no excuse whatsoever for that. I am not, though, a fan of berating anybody.

Hey, my father is Puerto Rican, was born in PR and was born an AMERICAN CITIZEN.

You may want to look up what a commonwealth is.

They think you're an illegal because you're hispanic.

Having spent two years, as a Marine Grunt in Vietnam, I can say that Hispanics fought better, as a group, than Whites, Blacks, or Asians.

I NEVER saw one 'spaz out,' or screw off on patrol. They had my respect.

Bet nobody called them illegals, though.

When I was active duty USMC, there were only 2 colors of Marines---Light Green, and Dark Green.

Hooraaah!

DrMark
07-09-2009, 12:17
You've GOT to be kidding me.

Nope.

In my day to day life, I don't see folks hating Hispanic people.

Beware Owner
07-09-2009, 12:20
Nope.

In my day to day life, I don't see folks hating Hispanic people.

Look to see those who disguise it under "illegal immigrant" hate, treating them both as one and the same.

nursetim
07-09-2009, 13:17
redacted

DrMark
07-09-2009, 15:15
Look to see those who disguise it under "illegal immigrant" hate, treating them both as one and the same.

Ha! The radical left likes to claim that hatred of illegal immigration is hatred of Hispanics in order to suit their ends, but I don't believe it's common at all.

Beware Owner
07-09-2009, 15:21
Ha! The radical left likes to claim that hatred of illegal immigration is hatred of Hispanics in order to suit their ends, but I don't believe it's common at all.

Whether they do or don't, I honestly don't know. But...it has been my personal experience that this hatred exists. Now, if the radical left claims that the hatred of illegal immigration is, in fact, hatred of Hispanics, and the general public believes what the radical left claims and projects it forward, well, if you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes true. Also, if the general public sees hispanics as illegal immigrants, and a news source that happens to be leftist speaks on it, I don't know which one of the two it is. But it is.

Hack
07-20-2009, 02:12
There are many Hispanics who do not care for illegal immigration. There are those who even despise it. This is because of the negative light that has been placed on those within our overall society who has Hispanic roots, but are several generations removed from being an immigrant of any kind. Illegal immigration comes from the north as well, you know, as well as other parts of the world. Including human trafficking.

Mexican culture is a part of our US Southwest, and has been for ages. It goes back to the time of Spanish government rule, including in parts of the Midwest, before the French controlled part of the American Midwest. I remember when I lived in the Southwest. There were people who remembered the current heroes of the 1910 Mexican Revolution.

Beware Owner
07-20-2009, 08:29
There are many Hispanics who do not care for illegal immigration. There are those who even despise it. This is because of the negative light that has been placed on those within our overall society who has Hispanic roots, but are several generations removed from being an immigrant of any kind. Illegal immigration comes from the north as well, you know, as well as other parts of the world. Including human trafficking.

Mexican culture is a part of our US Southwest, and has been for ages. It goes back to the time of Spanish government rule, including in parts of the Midwest, before the French controlled part of the American Midwest. I remember when I lived in the Southwest. There were people who remembered the current heroes of the 1910 Mexican Revolution.

Now, that is a truth seldom heard. Hispanics and illegals are NOT one and the same. I actually think that people who attempt to make it so are in a divide and conquer mentality. Why they want to divide us? I don't know, but it does show they want to conquer something.

Boilers
07-20-2009, 08:38
I have nothing against Latinos.

GreenBeret1631
07-23-2009, 22:18
Beware Owner:

As far as I can tell you started this thread. My questions to you is why is this in a forum for the US Army? What has the question got to do with the Army? There are Hispanics serving in every branch of service in this Nation.

There are scum bags in every race that are disliked, many for good reason. What is your real agenda here? The title "How much do we hate Hispanics," makes little sense on its face to me placed here.

I have served with many Hispanics and/or Latinos during my 30 + years in the Military. Most were good soldiers a few were not; however, that had little do do with their race.

In your profile I see no mention of any military service. Have you ever served in any branch of the military? If so, which branch, what type of unit? Rank? Did you have a problem with Hispanics, or hate them?

What is your problem with Hispanics? Do you hate them? Are you trying to stir up racial issues here? Who are you referring too when you say 'We.' You got a frog in your pocket?

IMO subjects like this do not belong in a Military thread for the US Army, unless you are trying to imply, that Hispanics are hated by soldiers in the US Army. Or that the US Army, is racist organization. :steamed:

Beware Owner
07-24-2009, 07:24
Actually, au contraire. I know very, very, well, that hispanics in the Armed Forces have more than put in their work. Joe Blow obviously seems oblivious to the fact. By others reading this reality, its a way to open eyes.

I've given 12 years of my life to the military, but won't specify where or when. I don't give any of my information over the net. Period.

GreenBeret1631
07-24-2009, 15:21
Actually, au contraire. I know very, very, well, that hispanics in the Armed Forces have more than put in their work. Joe Blow obviously seems oblivious to the fact. By others reading this reality, its a way to open eyes.

I've given 12 years of my life to the military, but won't specify where or when. I don't give any of my information over the net. Period.

Yeah right! :rofl: This reply doesn't even come close to answering the issues I asked you about! It's a 'Shuck & Jive' answer!

Just in case you don't understand that term:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shuck+and+jive&defid=1340082

Why don't you answer the questions I asked, instead of telling us some BS story about not posting your info on the 'net! Quit trying to act like a secret squirrel. I doubt that 'Beware Owner,' has a military record or a google of that name would reveal any real threat to you!

Most posers seem to use the old excuse about 'OPSEC' or not giving out info on the 'net, etc. to hide behind.

I see no valid reason for a person not disclosing his/her branch of service in a discussion thread for active and/or Veterans of the US Army, or other data that most real veterans provide in their profile here. IMO, the biggest reason not to provide such data is that you have no real military background to put up or are trying to conceal something.

I repeat: My questions to you is why is this title and question (How much do we hate hispanics?) in a forum about the US Army? What is your motive? Are you trying to conduct some type of racist poll?

What has the question got to do with the Army? There are Hispanics serving in every branch of service in this Nation.

What is your real agenda here? :weirdthread:

BTW: In reviewing your post history here I discovered this isn't the only time you have tried to stir-up racial issues.

Link:

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=926796

Beware Owner
07-24-2009, 18:24
Yeah right! :rofl: This reply doesn't even come close to answering the issues I asked you about! It's a 'Shuck & Jive' answer!

Just in case you don't understand that term:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shuck+and+jive&defid=1340082

Ok, check it out. I don't owe you JACK. I don't HAVE to answer, address, explain, or detail ANYTHING to YOU. Capisce?

Why don't you answer the questions I asked, instead of telling us some BS story about not posting your info on the 'net! Quit trying to act like a secret squirrel. I doubt that 'Beware Owner,' has a military record or a google of that name would reveal any real threat to you!

Most posers seem to use the old excuse about 'OPSEC' or not giving out info on the 'net, etc. to hide behind.

You can think what you want, baby boy! I am in control of my life and whatever I want to do with it, whether you like it or not. Whether you think the moon is square, triangular, oval, or circular, doesn't change what it is. Likewise, your opinion of ANYTHING is nothing but a drop of water in the ocean. Deal with it, that's one of life's "get over it's".

I see no valid reason for a person not disclosing his/her branch of service in a discussion thread for active and/or Veterans of the US Army, or other data that most real veterans provide in their profile here. IMO, the biggest reason not to provide such data is that you have no real military background to put up or are trying to conceal something.

Whether you see it or not, I could not care less! You are NOT my superior. Familiar with that term?

I repeat: My questions to you is why is this title and question (How much do we hate hispanics?) in a forum about the US Army? What is your motive? Are you trying to conduct some type of racist poll?

What has the question got to do with the Army? There are Hispanics serving in every branch of service in this Nation.

What is your real agenda here? :weirdthread:

BTW: In reviewing your post history here I discovered this isn't the only time you have tried to stir-up racial issues.

Link:

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=926796

Talk about having something to prove!! I am NOT trying to conduct a racist poll. This has a LOT to do with the Army, because the Army will break all other preconceived notions of self and turn you in to a soldier, the epitomy of patriotism. I want all to read these responses and learn what a real American acts like. For all those who say they're americans and patriots, yet have no idea what it is to live like one day to day.

You can review ALL my threads, matters none to me. Don't like the thread? Kick rocks. Find something else to read. If you haven't noticed yet, the only one stirring stuff up here is you. You can unsubscribe to the thread any time now.

For the rest, thank you for your mature responses.

GreenBeret1631
07-24-2009, 22:01
Beware Owner:

Blab, Blab & more blab! What a bunch of manure! :rofl:

Thanks for proving my point beyond a doubt!! :whistling:

Beware Owner
07-24-2009, 23:22
Beware Owner:

Blab, Blab & more blab! What a bunch of manure! :rofl:

Thanks for proving my point beyond a doubt!! :whistling:

Get a life.

ordinst
07-27-2009, 13:55
Beware Owner

Looks like you need alife for not trying to answer any of the simple questions, and yes I have over 30 yrs in the military.:dunno:

janice6
07-27-2009, 14:01
I don't hat any race!

I hate criminals and crazies that harm children. Hate is rationed to those that really deserve it.

ranburr1
08-02-2009, 17:15
I don't think anyone here hates Americans that just happy to have a darker complexion (such as hispanics). I do think there are a lot of people who can't stand illegal aliens who rape our society and refuse to assimilate.

Odin's Underlin
08-04-2009, 19:48
Actually, au contraire. I know very, very, well, that hispanics in the Armed Forces have more than put in their work. Joe Blow obviously seems oblivious to the fact. By others reading this reality, its a way to open eyes.

I've given 12 years of my life to the military, but won't specify where or when. I don't give any of my information over the net. Period.You don't give any information about yourself over the net? Then what the hell are you doing here giving out your opinion? Why can't you answer the questions posed to you? I think you're just a full of ***** poser.

HarleyFixer
08-13-2009, 18:12
The ONLY time I hate Hispanics is when they won't give me any chicken and rice. :)

Detectorist
09-02-2009, 01:14
I don't think anyone here hates Hispanics. I sure don't. I dislike illegals, though. It's not a personal thing.

Regarding posting one's past military units and such, what's the big deal?

I was F.A. then Signal Corps. 6 years active 7 years reserves.

I've got a very interesting story about the Commanding General Odierno in Iraq.

If 2 or more folks ask me, I'll post it.

Cheers!!

Detectorist
09-02-2009, 01:14
The ONLY time I hate Hispanics is when they won't give me any chicken and rice. :)

Have you tasted real 'Paella' ? It's to die for.

Beware Owner
09-02-2009, 09:27
You don't give any information about yourself over the net? Then what the hell are you doing here giving out your opinion? Why can't you answer the questions posed to you? I think you're just a full of ***** poser.

Uhh, opinions are far from personal information....bah, suit yourself. :wavey:

I don't think anyone here hates Hispanics. I sure don't. I dislike illegals, though. It's not a personal thing.

Regarding posting one's past military units and such, what's the big deal?

I was F.A. then Signal Corps. 6 years active 7 years reserves.

I've got a very interesting story about the Commanding General Odierno in Iraq.

If 2 or more folks ask me, I'll post it.

Cheers!!

I'd like to know!

Have you tasted real 'Paella' ? It's to die for.

How about some conch?

Army66
09-02-2009, 19:59
Beware Owner:

As far as I can tell you started this thread. My questions to you is why is this in a forum for the US Army? What has the question got to do with the Army? There are Hispanics serving in every branch of service in this Nation.

There are scum bags in every race that are disliked, many for good reason. What is your real agenda here? The title "How much do we hate Hispanics," makes little sense on its face to me placed here.

I have served with many Hispanics and/or Latinos during my 30 + years in the Military. Most were good soldiers a few were not; however, that had little do do with their race.

In your profile I see no mention of any military service. Have you ever served in any branch of the military? If so, which branch, what type of unit? Rank? Did you have a problem with Hispanics, or hate them?

What is your problem with Hispanics? Do you hate them? Are you trying to stir up racial issues here? Who are you referring too when you say 'We.' You got a frog in your pocket?

IMO subjects like this do not belong in a Military thread for the US Army, unless you are trying to imply, that Hispanics are hated by soldiers in the US Army. Or that the US Army, is racist organization. :steamed:

Well Said!