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08-12-2009, 22:10
I find myself in the position of having to help equip a female officer with concealed holsters. One style for a formal dress (thigh holster I'm assuming) and another for shirt and jeans casual carry.
Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Up until now, the only way I've offered advice is on the duty belt or back pocket. I'm way out of my league here with outfitting a well built female.
Dang I'm getting old...

Jim S.
08-13-2009, 16:58
For the shirt and jeans I recommend the Crossbreed Supertuck.
It is an in the waistband holster, which I believe is the most concealable holster for casual wear.
I have tried just about everything out there and I now use the supertuck. It is the most comfortable holster I have ever worn and it holds the gun in snug and tight.
Crossbreed even gives you a two week trial period and will refund your money back no questions asked. Good deal even though I doubt there are many who ever send them back.
What makes it comfortable is the wide leather backing which conforms to your body after a short time and also puts the belt clips out away from the bulk of the holster and gun. Keeps it from moving and helps make it thinner.
It is adjustable for cant and depth which helps in regards to where it is worn.
I recommend these to all of my friends and family, so I really do like it.
The thigh holster is something that I know nothing about. I can't help you there.

08-13-2009, 17:51
Women's apparel includes something called the "scort". It's a skirt with shorts under it. They started as tennis outfits because the server needed to carry an extra tennis ball to the base line, a pouch was added for the extra ball, one pouch on each side, under a skirt that was easily flickable.
I haven't looked at one of these in detail because I don't want to get punched out or have to explain to my wife why it happened, but I think this is could be a good platform for an under short skirt concealed carry. They are designed to be easy access(between skirt and short) and looking at women single tennis, they appear to hide a tennis ball very well.

As for jeans and T, the tighter the harder. Sprayed on clothing conceals nothing so you will need to compromise. You may have to consider off body carry.

I'm working on a book where I had to solve the same problem. My heroin has to conceal a G19 in a bathing suit. I decided to have her tuck it into the pario she wore over it. In the beginning I have her wearing skin tight clothing and a fanny pack.
I actually went though the real life exercise with a co-worker. She's 5'4" and 120 with D cups. We went through a well stocked gun store trying everything before going non-conventional. The underarmor/belly bands/thunderwear had possibilities if there was an outer garment at the appropriate level.
She was great to work with and as the day went on she actually started to warm up to the idea of carrying a gun. I hope to get her on the range next month.

I realize that I haven't given you an answer, but I hope that I've expanded your ideas. You really have to think way outside the box when arming women. Good luck.

08-13-2009, 20:40
I had to address this with my daughters, their favorite holster is a tuckable appendix position or used on occasion as a cross-draw. They carry G26 and a spare mag when possile in a pocket using a Blackhawk mag carrier without the clip as a mag cover to keep dirt out of the mag.

They did not like the idea of off body carry as they felt that they lost control of their firearm that way.

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Concealment T can be worn under your shirt or blouse like a normal t-shirt or tank top. No more worn out shoulders or strap marks that comes from most holsters<o:p></o:p>
http://www.concealmentt.com/technology.html (http://www.concealmentt.com/technology.html)
Pager Pal; No Jacket, No Fanny Pac, No Untucked Shirt!<o:p></o:p>
http://www.pagerpal.com/ (http://www.pagerpal.com/)
Rusty Sherrick has a good line of holsters for ladies
http://www.c-rusty.com/pages/holsters/Ladies.html (http://www.c-rusty.com/pages/holsters/Ladies.html)

The Workman™ allows the wearer to completely conceal a small to medium size pistol or revolver without wearing a vest or other outer garment over it.
http://www.mitchrosen.com/product_line/product_line.html (http://www.mitchrosen.com/product_line/product_line.html)

All of these are in my girls collection of holsters. Hope this helps.

08-13-2009, 22:35
Excellent links.

08-16-2009, 09:07
Try Ken Null's USH shoulder rig. I've worn these on the street with a Glock 27 when assisting our local police (I'm a prosecutor, and I'm a woman too). Much more comfortable than IWBs and easily concealed under an Oxford or light jacket.


Miao, Cat

08-17-2009, 10:52

09-19-2009, 14:22

09-23-2009, 04:10

09-23-2009, 06:03
I've wondered this myself. Patrice, thanks for a valid well written post.
I do however think most of the advice offered is well intended.

09-23-2009, 07:59
I hear you Patrice, and I agree.

All of the advice I give on here (I'm a man) is really derived from conversations I've had with my wife, or just telling the ladies on here how my wife does it when they ask for advice.

My wife doesn't frequent gun forums, so I like to pass her experiences on when I can.

09-23-2009, 19:49

Jim S.
09-24-2009, 10:52
If I had known that you only wanted advise from another woman I wouldn't have given any. I will refrain from giving advise outside of my side of the fence.
I thought it would be interesting to converse with women who carry guns as I do not know any personally.

Jim S.
09-24-2009, 10:56
Next time leave out the "any and all suggestions" part!

09-24-2009, 18:48

09-24-2009, 19:26
I see I'm a few days late getting to this post; but this is what I've observed with the female LEO's where I used to work- younger, newer female officers carried compact autos & revolvers behind their hip, outside waistband, strong side for casual clothes. If they were working Detectives (business), they often used Miami Vice-style shoulder rigs, because nice women's attire had no belt-level place to keep a gun (I've never met a female officer who found IWB carry comfortable). As the officers got older and more experienced at "reading" people & situations, they often opted for purse, fannypack or jacket pocket carry. One tall, slim woman officer I knew used small-of-back carry when she went to a Glock subcompact. And I knew 1 officer who used a disguised holster to carry an AMT backup .380, but, I can't remember what the holster was disguised as, but it was on her belt, when she wore jeans. I hope this helps your officer.

09-25-2009, 07:01

Jim S.
09-25-2009, 15:38
Okay, back on topic...Jim, I like your posts, but your icon...it looks, so very ANGRY???--Patrice

It's from a good Star Trek episode where Captain Kirk gets split into two distinct personalities, the good Kirk and the bad Kirk. That's the bad Kirk who goes around trying to convince everyone that he's Captain Kirk not the other guy.
You'd have to like Star Trek for that much information!

09-26-2009, 13:00

10-02-2009, 10:07
Sawgrass and others (myself included) would love to invite other women out there to actively participate in this forum. Please encourage your wife to do this so that we can read her first-hand perspectives.

Thanks :cool:

I hear you Patrice, and I agree.

All of the advice I give on here (I'm a man) is really derived from conversations I've had with my wife, or just telling the ladies on here how my wife does it when they ask for advice.

My wife doesn't frequent gun forums, so I like to pass her experiences on when I can.