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Evan N. Payawal
08-17-2009, 19:48
Since in theory, Philippines National Police allows concealed carry for M4s for qualified civilians, how do you lawfully "conceal carry " one?

If you carried it in a big duffel bag, maybe..How about if you carry it an a rifle bag, is that concealed? Everyone who sees it will assume it's a rifle, so somebody might report you as "suspicious person with FA."

Or mob style maybe...in a guitar case... :-)

G19c,PH
08-17-2009, 20:06
Puwede rin sa tennis bag or kung M4 infant tennis racket case.

mikey177
08-17-2009, 20:31
Maybe under a trenchcoat, like in The Matrix.

bulm540
08-17-2009, 21:36
Good way to loose some pounds wwearing a trench coat in 90+ degree weather.

markieboy
08-17-2009, 22:20
Puwede rin sa tennis bag or kung M4 infant tennis racket case.

Pwede yan!
This is an example of such:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x282/balloo932/DSC05622.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x282/balloo932/DSC05625.jpg

markieboy
08-17-2009, 22:29
MaxPedition Sliver II
This looks pretty discreet, too:

http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/catalog/1105(5)_1112_detail.jpg

http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/catalog/1105(4)_1655_detail.jpg

http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/catalog/1105(8)_2151_detail.jpg

Beware Owner
08-17-2009, 22:31
Pwede yan!
This is an example of such:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x282/balloo932/DSC05622.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x282/balloo932/DSC05625.jpg

THAT'S discreet.

markieboy
08-17-2009, 22:36
Yep. And if the person carrying this is wearing white shorts and a sweatband?
All set and good to go! :supergrin:

Beware Owner
08-17-2009, 22:41
Yep. And if the person carrying this is wearing white shorts and a sweatband?
All set and good to go! :supergrin:

Very much so. Wanna play ball? Let's play! :supergrin:

atmarcella
08-18-2009, 02:29
my vote goes to the tennis bag.

dbiggershot
08-18-2009, 03:01
i think i know now what to do with my tennis bag... I WILL BUY a new AK para magamit yung bag..nyahhhh...hehe!:supergrin::supergrin:

Deployment Solu
08-18-2009, 03:51
I have seen some use folding chair bags. What would look less conspicuous in a mass of people fleeing an area on foot than a chair bag slug across you shoulder with your suitcase on foot??? :wow:

markieboy
08-18-2009, 11:47
I have seen some use folding chair bags.

That would be very concealed, as well.
I stumbled on Sneaky Bags. They look pretty good, like hiking/camping packs.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7623/sneakyguns.jpg

http://www.onesourcetactical.com/ProductImages/SBRifle16inchAK02.jpg

Whether carrying an M4 or an AK, this bag looks pretty slick!

sig-glock
08-20-2009, 03:55
questionable ata yung carrying an m4 kasi as far as i know, bawal ang mahahaba within metropolitan areas. i know of/heard a few city by-laws(ordinance) na bawal talaga magbitbit ng mahaba kahit na me ptc within the metro area.....

correct me if im'm wrong po....

jasonub
08-20-2009, 05:10
inside the pants holster? :)

Evan N. Payawal
08-20-2009, 22:01
Thank you all for your comments. I asked around this past week (including with some FED contacts) and it seems indeed that one may run into problems CARRYING a hi-powered FA, EVEN IF it is licensed, with a PTC, and effectively concealed. The best way is to just keep in your car, concealed. For the information of everyone. Stay safe..and legal!

goodtj
08-21-2009, 00:28
with all the cr_p coming from the government lately i wonder how long being legal will last...

Vault Keeper
08-21-2009, 11:56
Thank you all for your comments. I asked around this past week (including with some FED contacts) and it seems indeed that one may run into problems CARRYING a hi-powered FA, EVEN IF it is licensed, with a PTC, and effectively concealed. The best way is to just keep in your car, concealed. For the information of everyone. Stay safe..and legal!

If I may ask, is .45 caliber considered Hi-Power FA?

wunder9
08-21-2009, 17:18
If I may ask, is .45 caliber considered Hi-Power FA?

.45cal handgun (1911, G-21, USP45 etc) - No

.45cal SMG (M1A1, M3A1, UMP45 etc) - Yes

Which is really dumb coz all pistol calibers are low-powered anyway.

Javelin
08-21-2009, 17:22
Thank you all for your comments. I asked around this past week (including with some FED contacts) and it seems indeed that one may run into problems CARRYING a hi-powered FA, EVEN IF it is licensed, with a PTC, and effectively concealed. The best way is to just keep in your car, concealed. For the information of everyone. Stay safe..and legal!

What is a licensed gun? NFA Form 4 xferable?

Evan N. Payawal
08-23-2009, 00:55
What is a licensed gun? NFA Form 4 xferable?

Hello Javelin,

In Philippines, qualified civilians may possess (at home) what are described as "hi-powered firearms", even full auto, short barreled weapons. Lawful concealed carry is allowed for pistols, again for those granted authority by the Chief of the National Police. For hi-powered FAs, well, it is possible to get a "permit to carry", but the intention really is for it to be kept in one's vehicle.

Evan

Evan N. Payawal
08-23-2009, 00:58
Agree with Wunder9. When in doubt, check your licence card.

The classification of your firearm is there, either "pistl" or "hi pwr"

Evan

.45cal handgun (1911, G-21, USP45 etc) - No

.45cal SMG (M1A1, M3A1, UMP45 etc) - Yes

Which is really dumb coz all pistol calibers are low-powered anyway.

Javelin
08-23-2009, 09:23
Hello Javelin,

In Philippines, qualified civilians may possess (at home) what are described as "hi-powered firearms", even full auto, short barreled weapons. Lawful concealed carry is allowed for pistols, again for those granted authority by the Chief of the National Police. For hi-powered FAs, well, it is possible to get a "permit to carry", but the intention really is for it to be kept in one's vehicle.

Evan

Makes sense. :supergrin:

Beware Owner
08-24-2009, 11:49
That's it, I'm moving to the Phillipines.

Evan N. Payawal
08-24-2009, 19:29
You're always welcome sir, Filipinos are very hospitable.

It's interesting to compare firearms ownership laws across countries..but maybe that's for another thread.....



That's it, I'm moving to the Phillipines.

Beware Owner
08-25-2009, 09:04
You're always welcome sir, Filipinos are very hospitable.

It's interesting to compare firearms ownership laws across countries..but maybe that's for another thread.....

That might not be such a bad idea! Is it true that many Philipinos have what seem to be hispanic names?

bikethief
08-25-2009, 09:53
It's from 300 odd years of Spanish rule. We got Spanish surnames, the afternoon siesta, and artery clogging food.

And, oh yeah. Christianity.