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Valor1
08-29-2009, 11:40
Ngayon lang pauwi na kami ng aking partner para ihatid sya sa bahay nila. Sadly masikip yung kalye doon at isang sasakyan lang ang pwedeng dumaan. Pagpasok ko sa kalyeng yon kailangan kong bumuwelta sa mallit ng eskinita. Then came this AUV. nag signal ako na umurong lang sya ng konti para makadaan ako. lalo nyang sinudsod ang sasakyan nya at nag bright pa ng headlights. sabi ko "pwede urong ka lang konti para makadaan lang ako?" aba nagalit ang loko. sabi nya idikit ko daw sasakyan ko sa gilid at para sya makadaan. sabi ko "yabang mo naman nakikiusap na nga ako ayaw mo pa magpadaan." ang loko, naglabas ng baril at tinututok sa akin. in spite of the fact na kasama nya ang maliit na bata nyang anak at asawa. pinigil sya ng asawa nya at ang partner ko humarang sa bintana. pakshet. kinabahan ako. may dala din akong baril pero dalawa ang nagpigil sa akin - 1) yung anak nyang bata (paano kung makapatay ako ng di dapat?) at 2) ang partner ko (mahirap madamay yon at matamaan pa). Naghahamon pa ang loko at sinabi sino ngayon ang matapang. Sabi ko sige na, no probem. Di ko na nilabas baril ko to diffuse the situation. Hinayaan ko ng makaalis.

Ano nga ba ang magandang kasong dapat ipatikim sa mga ganitong nangtututok ng baril? Pumunta na ko ng police detachment at nagpa-blotter na. Kaso di daw mate-trace pa yung plate number dahil holiday at wala ring LTO. Gusto ko talagang kasuhan ang mga ganitong tao para madala. hintayin ko muna ang trace bago ko i-post ang plate number ng loko. Baka kasi may kilala din sa mga forums ang loko at matimbrehan pa. Salamat sa pagbasa ng mahaba at sa mga suggestions.
:steamed:

9MX
08-29-2009, 11:52
good decision..potential collateral damage avoided.

ang pinaka kaso diyan e grave threats..i think

saan banda yan pards?

Black_SIR
08-29-2009, 12:04
marami grave threat, attempted murder, yan mabibigta kulong yan papa... :steamed:

armorpiercing
08-29-2009, 12:05
You did the right thing bro, imho nanakot lang yung mokong na yan, pero kung nilabasan mo rin sya ng FA mo, hell will break loose. Di natin masasabi what will happen, isipin mo na lang, makakahanap din ng katapat yan! The good thing is, you and your partner got home safe and sound. He's one of the guys who dont use FA for self defense, mayabang at irresponsible gun owner yan, tsk!

stinger030
08-29-2009, 13:04
Good thing you kept your composure and did not gave-in to his bull****. Daming ganyan ngayon and to think that kasama pa ang pamilya nya. Bad example sa bata. Dapat talagang tuluyan yan at ng hindi makasakit sa kapwa.

bikethief
08-29-2009, 15:47
It could have gone both ways. Only you can say for sure if you made the right decision at the time. The fact that you're still alive to tell us your story is pretty much the only thing that matters now.

I would have gone for cover immediately like behind my own vehicle or a nearby wall and then drawn my own firearm while shouting "Boss, ayoko ng gulo! Paki baba nalang ng baril at magkanya-kanya na tayo. Pasensya na!" (Sir, I don't want any trouble. Please lower the gun and let's just go our own separate ways! Sorry!) This is exactly what I did during a stoplight incident on my way to Laguna sometime last year. My mind was clear during the event but I felt like throwing up right after the situation was diffused. It wasn't a pleasant experience.

Most guys who use their guns for intimidation especially during traffic altercations have no intention of pulling the trigger. But I didn't want to take the chance. What if he wasn't like MOST guys? Buhay mo yun eh.

Glad you got out of it fine, Valor1. A cool head and compassion for other people in the area saved the day. But in the off-chance that it happens again, please shoot him. Twice.

batangueno
08-29-2009, 16:28
:thumbsup: Valor1

Go after him para matuto.

pipo
08-29-2009, 16:31
those kind of people are exactly the ones that shouldnt be allowed to own firearms. They are the ones who gives us a bad image in public.

jerrytrini
08-29-2009, 16:51
Report the incident without delay while it is still fresh in your memory.

Let us know the outcome of the investigation. Dito sa amin tangal na ang kanyang permit to possess plus he will be charged with "Assault with a Deadly Weapon" or in my book "Yabang without a Cause".:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

adenine
08-29-2009, 17:36
Tama ka lang bro valor! You never know what could have happend if you did not kept cool! Tuloy mo plan mo bro! Di pwede pamarisan mga taong ganito!

Young Once
08-29-2009, 17:59
There are may cases you can file against him, bro. You can file grave threat. You can also elevate it to attempted homicide or murder. Then, once you have the required info, i.e. name, address, you can file an admin case against him with PNP-FED for the cancellation of his FAL and PTC. Stay safe, bro!

napinap
08-29-2009, 18:13
indeed, prudence is the better part of valor1..kung in-escalate mo ang situation, could be messy... you did right

mikey177
08-29-2009, 20:03
I'm glad you and your loved one are safe and unharmed, Valor1.

Kudos on exercising the higher standard of care.

Situations like these make me wish we had dashboard mounted cameras on our vehicles, to give us additional evidence against dangerous individuals such as that AUV driver.

Valor1
08-29-2009, 20:12
salamat sa inyo mga bros.

am also thankful na walang barilang nangyari. bikethief, since the day I decided to pack a gun since 1994, ang mindset ko talaga is to use the hadgun only and only if necessary. pero if this happened na nag-iisa lang ako, God forbid di ko alam kung sino ang nasa dyaryo ngayon.

malaki ang compassion ko sa mga bata. ng makita ko pa lang yung bata, lumamig na agad ang ulo ko at willing to do just what he wanted. andoon pa yung partner ko.

talagang ipu-pursue ko ito at this point nga natatawa na yung kaibigan kong abogado. kakasimula lang nya sa dinemanda namin ng estafa ngayon may bago na naman.

king maraming mabait, maraming loko din talaga.

pero nakakapangigil. kung may barilan lang, apat na sigurong bala ang mahinang pinutok ko sa ulo at katawan noon. haay.

Allegra
08-29-2009, 20:46
Once you get his name , i-timbre mo din sa FED

Pero i'm curious sa sitwasyon na ganyan
I'm guessing duwag mga taong naglalabas agad ng baril to intimidate an unarmed adversary
Had a friend who was in the same situation, kaso wala sya paki-alam kung may collateral damage, w/c included poor me who was sitting on his passenger side
Naglabas ng baril yung kagitgitan nya, so he got out of the car and nagpaputok ng 2 daring the other guy to come out
The other guy ducked then bigla umarankada paalis
Sa sobrang bilis nga nya, inabot nya ako e

errr...before you try this method of de-escalation , ito po ay nangyari sa probinsya
Di sya pwede gamitin sa kamaynilaan

ppts799
08-29-2009, 21:04
i would really like to see the outcome of this. sana marevoke PTC niya. masmasaya pa kung wala siyang PTC para hindi tayo damay :)

it really doesnt matter kaninong fault ang traffis situation, the fact is, siya nanutok ng baril. period.

please do update us.

saki1611
08-29-2009, 22:11
valor, good thing you got out safe from the situation.

though just to remind us guys, consder also the what if's. sometimes having double thoughts make us undecided and can not act properly in the situation. it's good that valor, consider the people around him, even the company of the BG. what if the BG did not? what if he's drunk and willing to pull the trigger? what if he's like Rolito Go? and what will happen to our love ones who are waiting for us at home, unknowingly what happened?

as responsible gun owners, especially for the purpose of self defense, my suggestion is let us set our minds how and when to use our guns. my reaction to the situation could be, once i saw him approaching with a gun on his hand, i'll get my gun, aim it at him and tell him to drop his gun (which possibly he will be surprised, he would not just carry his gun if he thinks i have one (element of surprise), and that's why when i'm in the car i put my gun in an accessible place), if he didn't, it's him who forced me to. use our car as a cover for our advantage.

though of course, it's great what happened to valor didn't escalate.

Black_SIR
08-30-2009, 01:39
i would make sure he never gets to own a firearm again LEGALLY... kasi im sure hihinge ng tawad yan eh.. unless u want him jailed. make him pay and make sure he does not egt to own a firearm again forever :steamed:

liveandletlive
08-30-2009, 08:15
Bikethief's and Saki's suggestions are what I hope to be able to do in that kind of situation. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst, ika nga. Sabi nga ni Clint Smith, "when in doubt, draw your gun. We can always say sorry if it doesn't turn out what we thought it was"

Tungkol sa kaso, ang alam ko pag mas mabigat na kaso like attempted homicide/murder ay mabigat din ang burden of proof. Pag mas magaan ang kaso medyo mas madali din i-prove ang guilt ni mamang mayabang na mi baril.

Valor, I'm glad that that event turned out the way it did. Walang nasayang na buhay ng dahil sa simpling alitan sa kalsada. The fact that everybody involved went home in one piece to their families is proof that what you did was the right thing to do in that situation. Kasuhan mo na lang kahit yun bang kaso na ang penalty e yung pag-wawalisin lang sya sa tapat ng City Hall at papaluin sa kamay. Ang importante magka record sya at ng di na makapag-dala ulit ng baril. Kung kaya mong i-prove yung mas mabigat na kaso then the right thing to do is to go and file it and consider it as a social obligation of helping the law clean our society of people like mamang mayabang na mi baril. Saganang akin lang po... be safe bro.

jerrytrini
08-30-2009, 10:53
Practice retrieving your firearm whether from under the seat the glove box or wherever but practice, practice. Whenever I am behind the wheel, my .38 is wedged between my upper right leg and the console unholstered. The gun is out of sight because I usually place a reading material or a piece of clothing over it.

Valor1
08-30-2009, 18:21
thanks sir jerrytrini for the suggestion on practice. i also do the same. nasa tabi ko lang palagi ang fa ko for easier "presentation". pag may katabi ako, it rests behind the seat next to me also for easier access.

ng magbunot ng baril ang loko, iniisip ko na talaga ang mga consequences to the innocent people who is with us. siguro if my gut feel tells me that something will go wrong, nag accelerate na ako ng kotse since the engine is running, go for cover and shoot.

pero at that point (it sometimes help if you are calm and still able to think) I can also feel that the person wielding the gun is just that - an ahole who is just trying to be brave with a gun.

sorry na wala pang update at this point. tomorow na lang lahat gagalaw kasi tapos na holiday. pero I wil definitely pursue this. gusto ko nakakulong sya or paareglo lang ako pag lahat ng properties at sasakyan nya e nasa akin. that includes all his guns and airsoft guns.

PMMA97
08-30-2009, 20:20
It's good to know that no one got hurt. A few bruised ego and multiple psych trauma but no one is dead.

As for the lawsuit...MAGASTOS yan.

goodtj
08-30-2009, 21:19
i'd be willing to bet connected sa gobyerno tong nanutok sa iyo, best route is make him popular by spreading the word and file a case but settle and split the proceeds with your lawyer para di magastos or tuluyan mo if court expense is not a problem, para ka na rin tumama sa neighborhood lottery hehehe

vic2_187
08-31-2009, 00:08
valor1, im glad nothing happened...

similar incident happened to me in in bacoor, cavite; i was with my mother on our way to a wedding im manila, i wont get into the details of the traffic incident, but basically i had to slam on my breaks cause a jeep cut me off in right lane to drop off passengers i guess, there was corrolla behind me, who had to slam on his breaks as well. he almost rear ended me. then to my surprise, the guy started chasing me, and highbeaming me from behind, then at the stoplight right before coastal, he pulled up next to my driver side, and began yelling, i said sorry, bigla po tumigil yung jeep, then he said, "kala ko inaargabyado mo ako", (sorry if spelling wrong) while showing me his gun(did not aim it at me, but showed it to me)... which was a piece of **** by the way. when he was chasing me like a maniac on the road, i grabbed my gun already, when he openned his window, my gun was pointed at him, but below my window where he could not see....i did not open my window at first, but he kept yelling, and there was a car infront of me at the stop light so i could not drive off... nothing happend, he just drove off after showing me his gun and yelling... by the look of him, sad to say, and no offense to our law officers, im sure he was a cop..... i got his plate number and had some people look him up, and guess what, He is a police officer....

i'm not going to pursue him, legally or illegally, but one day, he'll pull his gun on the wrong guy, at the wrong time...

Hermo Gut
08-31-2009, 00:15
Mabuti na lang Valor 1 na walang nangyaring barilan. Tama yung ginawa mo. Pursue mo yung case para matauhan, hindi basta ginagamit yung baril sa ganung sitwasyon. Sigurado ako baguhan lang sa baril yon kaya very eager na ipakita or mag-intimidate ng tao. Buti na lang hindi ka nag-iisa and vice-versa kung hindi baka naging ugly yung scenario. Ingat lang pards and regards!

Black_SIR
08-31-2009, 01:11
anu na nangyari brother?

atmarcella
08-31-2009, 02:11
masikip na talaga dito sa pelepens. dagdagan kaya natin tao dun sa melbourne hehehehe.

kung dito sa prabens yan me lumipad na mga bala sa lagay na yan. pero buti napigilan mo sarili mo valor1.

what you did... i feel i cannot do if i am in the same situation as you.


you are a good person sir. better than me... for sure.

vinsdr
08-31-2009, 02:34
it's a good thing you did what you did.
mahirap kung nagkabakbakan.
daming madadamay and your name will be on the front cover of newspapers for a loooong time.
presence of mind and a cool head.

bagito
08-31-2009, 04:32
valor, very good decision bro. kasuhan mo para mabawasan mga siga sa kalsada

kristiansen
08-31-2009, 08:01
i admire your patience and courage.tama ginawa mo.keep us updated and stay safe.

iancg1
08-31-2009, 08:35
Great job for staying cool! I hope your case pushes through, they take his gun, slap a hefty fine, community service, and never let him own a gun again. Maybe never let him drive a vehicle too. People like him gives anti-gun fanatics the ammo against us peaceful and responsible gun owners.

i_am_infinity
08-31-2009, 11:30
Josh, were u able to see what gun he was wielding?? In most cases like that it's going to be your word against his...it would be of much advantage to u if u knew what gun it was. Just my opinion....Glad that nothing happened to ur family. If i was in ur place i'm not sure if i could contain my emotions and anger...

vega
08-31-2009, 17:24
Sabi nga nila dito sa esteyts, "Did you get hurt....nope, Just my pride". Tama yung ginawa mo. Let us know the outcome.

isuzu
08-31-2009, 20:07
If his gun is legal and he has a PTC, he risks losing his privilege. Glad to know you're safe.

Black_SIR
08-31-2009, 21:44
Sabi nga nila dito sa esteyts, "Did you get hurt....nope, Just my pride". Tama yung ginawa mo. Let us know the outcome.

kulong na ba brother?

CatsMeow
08-31-2009, 22:02
Valor, you really did the right thing, let nobody tell you any different.:cool:

That fella lost all moral ground the moment he let you see his gun. Go ahead and exhaust all legal remedies, including making sure he never owns a gun again.

Valor1
08-31-2009, 22:23
talked to my lawyer today. pipilitin muna na namin ma identify ang lokong ito. after ma positive ID then kakasuhan na namin.

salamat sa mga advices nyo. maraming salamat talaga.

sa totoo lang yung pangyayaring yon di ko madescribe din. naghalo na yung takot, galit pangamba sa mahal mo at kung ano ano pa. buti na lang at nakakapag-isip pa ako sa mga ganoong sitwasyon. pangako yan talagang hahanapin namin sya.

infinity,

dala nya kulay itim na revolver. kung may shooting na naganap manos naman kami. 16 rounds ang laman ng cz ko pwera pa chamber load. pasensya na po at nagpatawa lang ng konti.

salamat ulit sa inyo

jimbullet
09-01-2009, 01:04
It was a good decision not to wield your firearm....besides, he drew already and had the upper hand. At that point, if you would have drawn yours, the situation would have for sure escalated.

Its just unfortunate that there are still people out there who own guns that are not deserving.

toxic
09-01-2009, 03:19
Mixed emotion pag ganyang sitwasyon, takot, galit and kung ano ano pa, kung di talaga magbigay ang isa , it will end up in a blood bath..Your the man Valor1 tama ginawa mo you think first before you act nagbigay ka ..as what my sig line said one false move can means disaster..nobody got hurt..siguro a little ego but ang importante " you live to tell the tale".

trayO
09-01-2009, 03:29
I know the feeling. Nakakainis ang mga taong ganyan at dapat mabigyan ng magandang leksyon. In the end gusto natin matanggal ang gun privileges at makulong para pagsisihan at mapahiya sa ginawa niya. However, I think you should be prepared for something na mas NAKAKAINIS. When you file a complaint, I am pretty sure babaligtarin niya ang kwento at gagawin ikaw ang aggressor. If he is a man of influence, ikaw ang makukulong at matatanggalan ng FA.

z_e_n
09-01-2009, 04:33
dala nya kulay itim na revolver.


If its licensed, that greatly narrows down your suspect. I don't think anybody driving a car carries a blued revolver anymore.

vhin524
09-01-2009, 20:32
i rarely post in the forum but always read the posts.....and i cant pass up this opportunity to give you my compliments....... hats off to you bro for the prudence you showed in such an adverse situation.....i am a husband and a father too but am also a long time armed citizen. I carry and try everyday to be responsible at it..and pray hard for that moment NOT to come that i have to draw my firearm against another human being to protect another life especially my family's...that is why i hate people who cannot control their itch in finding a reason even the most flimsy ones to show off their "nickel plated si**y pistol"... I hope that there wouldnt come a time that their loved ones would be the one to suffer for their incompetent and ARROGANT actions.......again...kudos to you...Godbless your family and continue to carry your firearm responsibly.... you deserve it

MERCMADE
09-03-2009, 12:00
Mixed emotion pag ganyang sitwasyon, takot, galit and kung ano ano pa, kung di talaga magbigay ang isa , it will end up in a blood bath..Your the man Valor1 tama ginawa mo you think first before you act nagbigay ka ..as what my sig line said one false move can means disaster..nobody got hurt..siguro a little ego but ang importante " you live to tell the tale".

I know the feeling. Nakakainis ang mga taong ganyan at dapat mabigyan ng magandang leksyon. In the end gusto natin matanggal ang gun privileges at makulong para pagsisihan at mapahiya sa ginawa niya. However, I think you should be prepared for something na mas NAKAKAINIS. When you file a complaint, I am pretty sure babaligtarin niya ang kwento at gagawin ikaw ang aggressor. If he is a man of influence, ikaw ang makukulong at matatanggalan ng FA.


+1


kapatid, kahangahanga ang iyong foresight and you did what was the best course of action; di naman katumbas ng pride ang buhay ng tao o ang buhay mo for that matter.

BrassKnuckle
09-07-2009, 23:30
Kung sa neighborhood ng partner mo nangyari yung incident ask them to keep their eyes open for that AUV and have them note down the license plate number.

I have a feeling madalas dumaan yon dun at feeling niya kanya yung daan kasi may baril siya.

choi_tan2000
09-08-2009, 01:19
bro good thing di nagescalate.


go for it bro, file a formal complaint im sure matratrace kung sino yan thru his plate number, unahan mo na agad bro. and find a friend in LTO na para mas mabilis baka may mga member tayo dito na connected, nang magtanda yan mayabang na yan.


god bless bro

Valor1
09-08-2009, 01:29
thanks mga brothers for the support. we are now doing the process of tracing this person and we will really sue him para madala. i will update you as soon as may magandang developments.

Valor1
10-05-2009, 02:36
DARN!!! Hindi ma-trace. Nakausap ko na dapat makausap na connection sa LTO at TMG. Ang result NEGATIVE. Isa lang daw ang pwedeng reason mangyari yon. Fake ang plate number ng loko. GRRR! Nakalusot pa.

Ingat po sa plate number na ito. ZJT-960 Mitsubishi Adventure na black color.

Kung makita nyo po ito at malaman kung saan sya nauwi. PM nyo na lang po ako. Thanks

atmarcella
10-05-2009, 02:51
cguro dun din nakatira yun sa area ng partner nyo sir.

kerwin
10-05-2009, 11:08
im glad you kept your cool valor1, sana ma identify nyo na yung gago.

jimbullet
10-05-2009, 14:38
Pardon my ignorance but uso pala fake plates? Its a relatively new vehicle and its difficult to believe that the plates are fake. Di kaya hindi pa lang updated yun database?

Valor1
10-05-2009, 18:22
nakausap ko na LTO at TMG. medyo may koneksiyon na yung mga nakausap ko sa dalawang ahensya at di ko maasahan yung mga investigator na police na nagha-handle. wala talagang ma trace na records kaya ang possible na explanation lang ay fake yon. kaya malakas din ang loob. kung nadale pala ako, mahihirapan din hanapin yon. pero may araw din at makikita ko rin yon.

presidingglock
10-05-2009, 18:52
Sir valor you can try checking the database of Mitsubishi for the owners of a black adventure within the area where the incident took place.

Black_SIR
10-05-2009, 19:30
whoa! fake plates?? i doubt baka protected sa LTO mag tanung ka pa bro makukuha mu rin yan hinge tulong sa public service NGO

Wp.22
10-06-2009, 18:56
if the plates looks real yung galing sa LTO baka stolen from other vehicle kaya di matched doon sa description ng vehicle or galing pa ito doon sa na bust na syndicate inside LTO that produce plate numbers na kailan lang nadiscover.

Black_SIR
10-06-2009, 19:38
kung mahuli yan si rpakulon gmo pero kung maawa ka dahil makiawa, make sure he does not get a license to possess a fa in his entire life at mag bayad cy ang sa yo.. for damages incurrred..

edtf
10-06-2009, 20:17
Sir Valor, Ingat ka din at baka syndikato din yan. Not saying that you should stop but proceed with caution nalang

PMMA97
10-06-2009, 20:23
Text LTO VEHICLE ZJT960 send to 2600.

Valor1
10-07-2009, 00:15
already did the text PMMA97 pero walang lumabas na info. ppts also did the same pero wala. will proceed with caution. ingat na lang po sa taong ito. early thirties sya at mga 5'8 ang height. medyo maitim at stocky ang build.

atmarcella
10-07-2009, 01:06
if the plates looks real yung galing sa LTO baka stolen from other vehicle kaya di matched doon sa description ng vehicle or galing pa ito doon sa na bust na syndicate inside LTO that produce plate numbers na kailan lang nadiscover.


i saw this on tv just recently.

Punisher_nbi45
10-07-2009, 14:43
Valor1,

PM sent

Black_SIR
10-07-2009, 20:03
Valor1,

PM sent


share mo naman sa amin sir hehehe:whistling:

productionguy
10-08-2009, 07:55
hindi kaya security plate ung gamit niya?meron ksai ako friend na anak ng ex-pres ng bansa natin,ung ginagamit nilang plate e security plate daw,may rekord sa lto pero hindi ma access ng ordinary employee.

ppts799
10-13-2009, 03:12
i had my little share of this just a while ago. BUT hindi ako natutukan pero they were brandishing their pistols. AND i did not keep my cool (dont worry, i didnt take my pistol out) :)

as usual, traffic altercation. i found out later on nalang na escort pala ng innova ang sedan in front. so edsa palang, driving wildly na ng inova. lousy drivers- i ended uo in front of them without trying because they chose the wrong lanes. at ortigas flyover, i slowed down to let them pass. peace loving tayo eh :) when we got to ortigas fronting lasalle, the innova stops and 2 guys come out with pistols drawn. i had my pistol right beside me but i knew i didnt need it.

i wasnt pissed anymore at their crazy driving, i was pissed that they were displaying their pistols. malayo pa sa window ko i already shouted "bakit nakalabas baril niyo?" they answered na pagalit that they were police and escort nila ang "VIP" (his words, not mine). i replied "eh ano ngayon kung police ka, bakit nakalabas ang baril mo?" the guy ends up saying ang yabang ko daw. the "VIPs" also get down from their car and joins in the shouting match. im a small guy but i have a nasty shouting voice...

the "police" kept repeating ang yabang ko. gosh, may baril siya, police, and 5 inches taller than me, seems like he wanted my to quiver in fear instead of shouting at him. well, i wasnt really trying to provoke the guys, i just wanted to make sure that bystanders knew what we were talking about. the "police" said kung kunan mo ako (picture), puputukan kita! i faced the MMDAs and the lasalle students and shouted "ano, kukunan lang kita puputukan mo na ako? bakit mo ako puputukan? gosh, hindi na siya makasagot. ang yabang ko nanaman daw. then i noticed out of sight na pistols nila.

i didnt keep my cool, i started shouting. but in reality, it would have been a whole different scenario if it wasnt in the middle of ortigas, at 2pm, in front of a busy school and in front of at least 7 MMDA people. had it been at night, in a narrow street with a few people around, wala nang shouting match, mag sosorry nalang ako.

BTW, the inova was unmarked with private plates. i just got the plate number of the VIP. i dont mind the traffic altercation but its the yabang of brandishing the pistols that irked me. and im almost sure they were not police so not much i can do about it. mas madali yata mag file ng complaint kung tunay na police. but another sad thing is, sana the "VIP" does not condone that behavior of his bodyguards. sana lang... wishful thinking.

Wp.22
10-13-2009, 04:19
i had my little share of this just a while ago. BUT hindi ako natutukan pero they were brandishing their pistols. AND i did not keep my cool (dont worry, i didnt take my pistol out) :)

as usual, traffic altercation. i found out later on nalang na escort pala ng innova ang sedan in front. so edsa palang, driving wildly na ng inova. lousy drivers- i ended uo in front of them without trying because they chose the wrong lanes. at ortigas flyover, i slowed down to let them pass. peace loving tayo eh :) when we got to ortigas fronting lasalle, the innova stops and 2 guys come out with pistols drawn. i had my pistol right beside me but i knew i didnt need it.

i wasnt pissed anymore at their crazy driving, i was pissed that they were displaying their pistols. malayo pa sa window ko i already shouted "bakit nakalabas baril niyo?" they answered na pagalit that they were police and escort nila ang "VIP" (his words, not mine). i replied "eh ano ngayon kung police ka, bakit nakalabas ang baril mo?" the guy ends up saying ang yabang ko daw. the "VIPs" also get down from their car and joins in the shouting match. im a small guy but i have a nasty shouting voice...

the "police" kept repeating ang yabang ko. gosh, may baril siya, police, and 5 inches taller than me, seems like he wanted my to quiver in fear instead of shouting at him. well, i wasnt really trying to provoke the guys, i just wanted to make sure that bystanders knew what we were talking about. the "police" said kung kunan mo ako (picture), puputukan kita! i faced the MMDAs and the lasalle students and shouted "ano, kukunan lang kita puputukan mo na ako? bakit mo ako puputukan? gosh, hindi na siya makasagot. ang yabang ko nanaman daw. then i noticed out of sight na pistols nila.

i didnt keep my cool, i started shouting. but in reality, it would have been a whole different scenario if it wasnt in the middle of ortigas, at 2pm, in front of a busy school and in front of at least 7 MMDA people. had it been at night, in a narrow street with a few people around, wala nang shouting match, mag sosorry nalang ako.

BTW, the inova was unmarked with private plates. i just got the plate number of the VIP. i dont mind the traffic altercation but its the yabang of brandishing the pistols that irked me. and im almost sure they were not police so not much i can do about it. mas madali yata mag file ng complaint kung tunay na police. but another sad thing is, sana the "VIP" does not condone that behavior of his bodyguards. sana lang... wishful thinking.

Good thing hindi ka pinutukan ng mga mokong na yun. Dyan pa naman ako dumadaan everyday. May VIP ako alam na nakatira dyan sa Greenhilss hindi naman kaya bisita nya?


Pio, ngayon slim ka na parang ang liit mon tignan kasi palaki ka ulit ng tiyan

ppts799
10-13-2009, 04:46
Good thing hindi ka pinutukan ng mga mokong na yun. Dyan pa naman ako dumadaan everyday. May VIP ako alam na nakatira dyan sa Greenhilss hindi naman kaya bisita nya?


Pio, ngayon slim ka na parang ang liit mon tignan kasi palaki ka ulit ng tiyan

hindi ako puputukan nun, daming witness. alam kong yabang lang ang pakita niya ng baril. kaya malakas boses ko, para marinig ng mga witness :)

teka, inom ako ng beer everyday para lumaki tiyan ko...

PMMA97
10-13-2009, 05:26
Pio,

Kung naplakahan mo sila malamang, kung gumana ng konti utak nila, nakuha din nila plaka mo. Take the necessary counter measures... Magdala ka na lang ng megaphone. Gosh!

ppts799
10-13-2009, 06:03
im sure they did and i think they took pictures too. but i dont think they will do anything drastic. baka mag post lang yun ng kwento at pictures sa forums like this :) pride lang ng escorts ang tinamaan...

if they do, ill complain about the escorts showing off their guns and their crazy driving.

edtf
10-13-2009, 07:27
i had my little share of this just a while ago. BUT hindi ako natutukan pero they were brandishing their pistols. AND i did not keep my cool (dont worry, i didnt take my pistol out) :)

as usual, traffic altercation. i found out later on nalang na escort pala ng innova ang sedan in front. so edsa palang, driving wildly na ng inova. lousy drivers- i ended uo in front of them without trying because they chose the wrong lanes. at ortigas flyover, i slowed down to let them pass. peace loving tayo eh :) when we got to ortigas fronting lasalle, the innova stops and 2 guys come out with pistols drawn. i had my pistol right beside me but i knew i didnt need it.

i wasnt pissed anymore at their crazy driving, i was pissed that they were displaying their pistols. malayo pa sa window ko i already shouted "bakit nakalabas baril niyo?" they answered na pagalit that they were police and escort nila ang "VIP" (his words, not mine). i replied "eh ano ngayon kung police ka, bakit nakalabas ang baril mo?" the guy ends up saying ang yabang ko daw. the "VIPs" also get down from their car and joins in the shouting match. im a small guy but i have a nasty shouting voice...

the "police" kept repeating ang yabang ko. gosh, may baril siya, police, and 5 inches taller than me, seems like he wanted my to quiver in fear instead of shouting at him. well, i wasnt really trying to provoke the guys, i just wanted to make sure that bystanders knew what we were talking about. the "police" said kung kunan mo ako (picture), puputukan kita! i faced the MMDAs and the lasalle students and shouted "ano, kukunan lang kita puputukan mo na ako? bakit mo ako puputukan? gosh, hindi na siya makasagot. ang yabang ko nanaman daw. then i noticed out of sight na pistols nila.

i didnt keep my cool, i started shouting. but in reality, it would have been a whole different scenario if it wasnt in the middle of ortigas, at 2pm, in front of a busy school and in front of at least 7 MMDA people. had it been at night, in a narrow street with a few people around, wala nang shouting match, mag sosorry nalang ako.

BTW, the inova was unmarked with private plates. i just got the plate number of the VIP. i dont mind the traffic altercation but its the yabang of brandishing the pistols that irked me. and im almost sure they were not police so not much i can do about it. mas madali yata mag file ng complaint kung tunay na police. but another sad thing is, sana the "VIP" does not condone that behavior of his bodyguards. sana lang... wishful thinking.

WHAT!!! you!!! You look like a guy who can't hurt a fly - hehehehe..... HAAAYYYY. They are the ones aggressive and ikaw yung mayabang - great logic displayed. Maybe you should have told them - yan lang ba yung nasa vokabularyo nyo -:supergrin:

Valor1
10-13-2009, 08:30
kakatuwa ang experience mo. outnumbered pero hindi outclassed. that's good thinking. manigas sila ngayon sa inis. by now, sa inuman nila ikaw pa din ang topic. ingat lang din. dami na talagang loko at pangit ngayon na nagkalat.

Allegra
10-13-2009, 08:57
Sarap managinip ano
Sana pwede patulan na hindi ka makukulong

Wp.22
10-13-2009, 17:58
Gosh hayhayyyyyyyy

atmarcella
10-14-2009, 00:42
Sana pwede patulan na hindi ka makukulong


pwede. only here. and some other god forsaken third world country. saan na ba ang nakapatay lately bcos of traffic altercation, yung pati ang babae pinatay nya. wari koy alpas na yun. buti nalang me dyos.

ppts799
10-14-2009, 07:13
welcome to the Philippines :)

but i really hope and believe we can improve as a country . . .

horge
10-14-2009, 17:10
Ngayon lang pauwi na kami ng aking partner para ihatid sya sa bahay nila. Sadly masikip yung kalye doon at isang sasakyan lang ang pwedeng dumaan. Pagpasok ko sa kalyeng yon kailangan kong bumuwelta sa mallit ng eskinita. Then came this AUV. nag signal ako na umurong lang sya ng konti para makadaan ako. lalo nyang sinudsod ang sasakyan nya at nag bright pa ng headlights. sabi ko "pwede urong ka lang konti para makadaan lang ako?" aba nagalit ang loko. sabi nya idikit ko daw sasakyan ko sa gilid at para sya makadaan. sabi ko "yabang mo naman nakikiusap na nga ako ayaw mo pa magpadaan." ang loko, naglabas ng baril at tinututok sa akin. in spite of the fact na kasama nya ang maliit na bata nyang anak at asawa. pinigil sya ng asawa nya at ang partner ko humarang sa bintana. pakshet. kinabahan ako. may dala din akong baril pero dalawa ang nagpigil sa akin - 1) yung anak nyang bata (paano kung makapatay ako ng di dapat?) at 2) ang partner ko (mahirap madamay yon at matamaan pa). Naghahamon pa ang loko at sinabi sino ngayon ang matapang. Sabi ko sige na, no probem. Di ko na nilabas baril ko to diffuse the situation. Hinayaan ko ng makaalis.

Ano nga ba ang magandang kasong dapat ipatikim sa mga ganitong nangtututok ng baril? Pumunta na ko ng police detachment at nagpa-blotter na. Kaso di daw mate-trace pa yung plate number dahil holiday at wala ring LTO. Gusto ko talagang kasuhan ang mga ganitong tao para madala. hintayin ko muna ang trace bago ko i-post ang plate number ng loko. Baka kasi may kilala din sa mga forums ang loko at matimbrehan pa. Salamat sa pagbasa ng mahaba at sa mga suggestions.
:steamed:

You did the right thing, Valor1. :cool:
As others have said, situation was ripe for innocent casualties.
That you can't get an ID from the license plate tells me two things:
1. Baka nga fake plate ang gamit, such as were sold by an LTO syndicate.
2. Baka protektado 'yan. Kahit insider ang kausap mo, kunwari hindi ma-ID.

My advice? If this is still persistently a dead end, then drop it.
Malamang siya mismo, natakot sa nangyari.
Just avoid winding up in a similar situation, and keep your weapon
and your skills in full functionality.



i had my little share of this just a while ago. BUT hindi ako natutukan pero they were brandishing their pistols. AND i did not keep my cool (dont worry, i didnt take my pistol out) :)

as usual, traffic altercation. i found out later on nalang na escort pala ng innova ang sedan in front. so edsa palang, driving wildly na ng inova. lousy drivers- i ended uo in front of them without trying because they chose the wrong lanes. at ortigas flyover, i slowed down to let them pass. peace loving tayo eh :) when we got to ortigas fronting lasalle, the innova stops and 2 guys come out with pistols drawn. i had my pistol right beside me but i knew i didnt need it.

i wasnt pissed anymore at their crazy driving, i was pissed that they were displaying their pistols. malayo pa sa window ko i already shouted "bakit nakalabas baril niyo?" they answered na pagalit that they were police and escort nila ang "VIP" (his words, not mine). i replied "eh ano ngayon kung police ka, bakit nakalabas ang baril mo?" the guy ends up saying ang yabang ko daw. the "VIPs" also get down from their car and joins in the shouting match. im a small guy but i have a nasty shouting voice...

the "police" kept repeating ang yabang ko. gosh, may baril siya, police, and 5 inches taller than me, seems like he wanted my to quiver in fear instead of shouting at him. well, i wasnt really trying to provoke the guys, i just wanted to make sure that bystanders knew what we were talking about. the "police" said kung kunan mo ako (picture), puputukan kita! i faced the MMDAs and the lasalle students and shouted "ano, kukunan lang kita puputukan mo na ako? bakit mo ako puputukan? gosh, hindi na siya makasagot. ang yabang ko nanaman daw. then i noticed out of sight na pistols nila.

i didnt keep my cool, i started shouting. but in reality, it would have been a whole different scenario if it wasnt in the middle of ortigas, at 2pm, in front of a busy school and in front of at least 7 MMDA people. had it been at night, in a narrow street with a few people around, wala nang shouting match, mag sosorry nalang ako.

BTW, the inova was unmarked with private plates. i just got the plate number of the VIP. i dont mind the traffic altercation but its the yabang of brandishing the pistols that irked me. and im almost sure they were not police so not much i can do about it. mas madali yata mag file ng complaint kung tunay na police. but another sad thing is, sana the "VIP" does not condone that behavior of his bodyguards. sana lang... wishful thinking.

You did the right thing too, bossman Pio. Context nga, indeed.
There were witnesses, so tama lang to call their attention to the
situation --and to call the attention of the bodyguards to the
fact of there being so many witnesses.

Este.. bakit mo pa binanggit yung "5 inches taller than me"?
Para namang 'di ka namin kilala, e.
:tongueout:

h.

ppts799
10-14-2009, 19:12
haha! yun nga problem ko if im asked for a description, all i can say is the 4 guys are taller than me. ehhhh, lahat naman ng tao taller than me eh. so that makes 5billion people suspects :) hehehe!

crazy_hans
10-14-2009, 21:31
sir ppts799 buti di nagka putukan!kung nagkataon patay yun 4 sayo and patay din yun mmda sa likod mo kasi bobo naman ang mga yan eh so they will hit anything but you.hehehehehe

atmarcella
10-15-2009, 00:32
mmda sa likod mo kasi bobo naman ang mga yan eh so they will hit anything but you.

me baril mga yun?

crazy_hans
10-16-2009, 04:01
i mean the bodyguards po not the mmda ang bobo hehehehe

jimbullet
10-16-2009, 12:48
+1 the VIP should not condone the bodyguards (or should I say thugs) behaviour. Its a pity that just because they think they are in power, they have all the right and others dont.

Why did they say kukunan mo sila, did they see you had a camera?

acespino2000
10-19-2009, 06:38
di ba nila alam na mga civilians nagpapa sweldo sa kanila hehehe

batangueno
10-20-2009, 09:47
haha! yun nga problem ko if im asked for a description, all i can say is the 4 guys are taller than me. ehhhh, lahat naman ng tao taller than me eh. so that makes 5billion people suspects :) hehehe!

Pero napansin ko yung mga maliliit yun ang matatapang. hahaha :supergrin:

collegedude
11-01-2009, 04:46
valor, good thing you got out safe from the situation.

though just to remind us guys, consder also the what if's. sometimes having double thoughts make us undecided and can not act properly in the situation. it's good that valor, consider the people around him, even the company of the BG. what if the BG did not? what if he's drunk and willing to pull the trigger? what if he's like Rolito Go? and what will happen to our love ones who are waiting for us at home, unknowingly what happened?

as responsible gun owners, especially for the purpose of self defense, my suggestion is let us set our minds how and when to use our guns. my reaction to the situation could be, once i saw him approaching with a gun on his hand, i'll get my gun, aim it at him and tell him to drop his gun (which possibly he will be surprised, he would not just carry his gun if he thinks i have one (element of surprise), and that's why when i'm in the car i put my gun in an accessible place), if he didn't, it's him who forced me to. use our car as a cover for our advantage.

though of course, it's great what happened to valor didn't escalate.

nangyari din sa friend ko yan happened to be in the militar intelligence div. nangyari incidence sa negros he was assigned there as an intelligence officer sa isang maliit na road nagkagitgitan sila ng sasakyan parehas mabilis takbo nila at suddenly biglang huminto yung sasakyan ng nakagitgitan nila galit na galit na lumabas sa pinto at my bitbit na gun case. he was with his military driver naka plain civilian attire lang sila coz nasa intel sila yung guy walang kamalay malay na military officer yung sinisindak nya. its about 15 feet yung distance ng car nila nung papalapit na yung guy good thing my dumating na police officer na naka motor tinawag ng friend ko yung police at nagpakilala sabi nya sa pulis paki verify yung guy na my hawak na guncase hindi na ki nonfront ng friend ko yung guy instead hinayaan nya ihandle ng police yung tao naverify na my baril ngah at licensyado naman yung FA ng guy at my mission order from the military officer ang nakakatawa signed ng friend ko yung mission order nya ang galit ng friend ko sa nag approved ng mission order nya binol out nya yung ex o nya nagbigay ng MO from that time he learned his lesson every time pumipirma sya sa mga mission order na inaapproved nya kailangan makita nya muna in person yung tao at pinapaattend nya ng gun safety seminar. nakakatawa pa don hindi alam ng tao na yung nakagitgitan nya ay yung responsible sa pagkakaron nya ng mission order pinatawag nya yung tao at inimbitahan nya sa loob ng firing range sa camp pinaputok nya muna yung tao and nalaman nya na lack of markmanship at proficiency ni hindi makatama sa target, thats the time nagpakitang gilas sa markmanship at napahanga nya yung tao yung friend ko is also a range officer of idpa ang ipsc sa pma sumasali narin sya ng competition before after nila pumutok kinausap nya yung tao at hiningi yung mission order binigay naman ng guy at ang ginawa ng friend ko pinunit nya yung mission order sa harap ng tao at don nalaman ng tao na sya pala ang nakagitgitan niya sa daan a day ago hiyang hiya at takot na takot yung guy sabi ng friend ko dalawa lang puedeng mangyari its either ako yung pinaglalamayan ngayon or siya hindi alam ng tao na naka ready na yung unit ng friend ko sa loob ng sasakyan bago pa bumaba yung guy sa sasakyan nya. buti nalang at di sila nagkaharap at my namagitan na police at umalis na yung friend ko na hindi sila nagkita ng guy if nangyari yon baka magkaron ng barilan parehas sila my firearms nasa advantage at strategic location yung friend ko the time of incidence occured.

collegedude
11-01-2009, 05:00
You did the right thing, Valor1. :cool:
As others have said, situation was ripe for innocent casualties.
That you can't get an ID from the license plate tells me two things:
1. Baka nga fake plate ang gamit, such as were sold by an LTO syndicate.
2. Baka protektado 'yan. Kahit insider ang kausap mo, kunwari hindi ma-ID.

My advice? If this is still persistently a dead end, then drop it.
Malamang siya mismo, natakot sa nangyari.
Just avoid winding up in a similar situation, and keep your weapon
and your skills in full functionality.





You did the right thing too, bossman Pio. Context nga, indeed.
There were witnesses, so tama lang to call their attention to the
situation --and to call the attention of the bodyguards to the
fact of there being so many witnesses.

Este.. bakit mo pa binanggit yung "5 inches taller than me"?
Para namang 'di ka namin kilala, e.
:tongueout:

h.


you did the right thing sir

collegedude
11-01-2009, 05:03
haha! yun nga problem ko if im asked for a description, all i can say is the 4 guys are taller than me. ehhhh, lahat naman ng tao taller than me eh. so that makes 5billion people suspects :) hehehe!

natawa ako don ah!:rofl:

vega
11-01-2009, 07:35
Ang hirap basahin ng 1 block paragraph no?

atmarcella
11-01-2009, 19:25
yup hehehehehe.

PMMA97
11-01-2009, 21:03
You really have to squint your eyes.

collegedude
11-02-2009, 06:59
Ang hirap basahin ng 1 block paragraph no?

yup,hehehe I'm in a hurry gutom na kasi ako nong tinatype ko sya sorry for that :embarassed:

pmikeglock
11-02-2009, 07:02
very interesting stories .:supergrin:

asian_glockster
11-06-2009, 02:26
Yung sa kabilang thread po nagkaroon na po ng aksyon. ang tindi po talaga pag media ang involved...