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saki1611
10-22-2009, 05:58
here's my Glock 35 for IPSC, Standard Division:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j130/saki1611/052.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j130/saki1611/046-1.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j130/saki1611/048.jpg

edtf
10-22-2009, 06:07
NICE!!! is the slide aftermarket too?

9MX
10-22-2009, 07:11
ampanget:supergrin:

saki1611
10-22-2009, 07:22
NICE!!! is the slide aftermarket too?

yup bro, it's Lone Wolf too. thanks!

Beulah
10-22-2009, 07:25
Break-in natin on Saturday para masubukan.:wavey:

saki1611
10-22-2009, 07:39
Break-in natin on Saturday para masubukan.:wavey:

yep! kaso sinubukan ko kanina sa Armscor MCS, i used their reloads, may mga ilan napalya, i think it's the shell buntis. pero sa hallow points and factory loads walang mintis.

installation of sights, courtesy of SOE boys. thanks bikethief!

Young Once
10-22-2009, 07:46
Ganda!

choi_tan2000
10-22-2009, 08:19
congrats bro nice set up

toxic
10-22-2009, 09:28
Nice...available na ba locally LWD parts Bro Saki or ordered outside.

saki1611
10-22-2009, 17:25
Nice...available na ba locally LWD parts Bro Saki or ordered outside.

secret...:supergrin: si sir beulah, meron pa ata for G22 and G17 barrels.

PMMA97
10-22-2009, 17:57
Nice. Ampogi!

edtf
10-22-2009, 17:58
type ko yung slide! drop in ba yan bro???

sandman_sy
10-22-2009, 18:53
Wow... grabe.. ang pangit :) aheheheh..

NICE one sir :)

productionguy
10-22-2009, 19:25
ganda a!!!dapat bro may resizer ng shells ung pinapaloadan mo,para resize muna sheels mo bago mo iload,maselan sa buntis na basyo yan.kita kits sa delta lions bukas...

bikethief
10-22-2009, 21:51
Thanks for the mais-con-yelo and leche flan!

That's what I charge for sights installation.

Trigger job - Quarter Pounder with Cheese Meal (go bigtime)
Slide to Frame Fitting - Savory Chicken with Pansit
Barrel Crowning - Chowking Halo-Halo
Gun Blueing - Dear Darla Pizza from Yellowcab
20-30lpi checkering - 1 dozen Cunanan Ensaymadas and a Coke 1.5l with ice.

edtf
10-22-2009, 22:07
Thanks for the mais-con-yelo and leche flan!

That's what I charge for sights installation.

Trigger job - Quarter Pounder with Cheese Meal (go bigtime)
Slide to Frame Fitting - Savory Chicken with Pansit
Barrel Crowning - Chowking Halo-Halo
Gun Blueing - Dear Darla Pizza from Yellowcab
20-30lpi checkering - 1 dozen Cunanan Ensaymadas and a Coke 1.5l with ice.

Ginugutom mo naman ako!!! Miss ko nga ata yung Cunanan - MAka order nga nexr week :supergrin:

toxic
10-22-2009, 23:13
secret...:supergrin: si sir beulah, meron pa ata for G22 and G17 barrels.

:whistling:bakit ba naitanong ko pa :whistling:
:embarassed:

good luck sa mga lalaro sa Bocaue.

9MX
10-23-2009, 07:26
Ginugutom mo naman ako!!! Miss ko nga ata yung Cunanan - MAka order nga nexr week :supergrin:

yep..the best ang ensaymada ni mrs. cunanan.

the best din ang strawberry shortcake ni mrs. yulo, BTS!

Putok-Glock
10-23-2009, 07:31
Will it fit the BOX?
The mag pad in the pics above is a bit thick, and so are the sights.

I hate to be d KJ but...better than be declared open later...

saki1611
10-23-2009, 07:39
Will it fit the BOX?
The mag pad in the pics above is a bit thick, and so are the sights.

I hate to be d KJ but...better than be declared open later...

i will not use the mag pad installed bro, definitely wont fix the box with that, it's +5 just for carry. i'll just use the the +2 pads sa games. about the sight that's my doubt too...
and sana maka hiram ako minsan kay gundog ng mag nya na may +3.:supergrin:

thanks for the comments mga bros.:wavey:

edtf
10-23-2009, 07:51
yep..the best ang ensaymada ni mrs. cunanan.

the best din ang strawberry shortcake ni mrs. yulo, BTS!

Bro, Pa PM naman yung contact details ni Mrs Yulo. :supergrin: same style as Mrs. Cunanan na call in order? Mananaba nanaman ako nito!

jimbullet
10-23-2009, 20:26
Saki,

I like the way you have made this pistol. Really awesome! Can you tell me what rear sight is that - gayahin kita

(and where did you get the rear sights?)

Putok-Glock
10-23-2009, 22:14
i will not use the mag pad installed bro, definitely wont fix the box with that, it's +5 just for carry. i'll just use the the +2 pads sa games. about the sight that's my doubt too...
and sana maka hiram ako minsan kay gundog ng mag nya na may +3.:supergrin:

thanks for the comments mga bros.:wavey:

the +2 pads from glock wont fit the box either, but the +3 from arredondo will, provided the rear sight is stock w/c has a very low profile..

sorry for my being very makulit...just wanna help.

atmarcella
10-24-2009, 02:21
nice gun sir, si chromedg35 is doing well in standard w/ his metrillo built g35, ill get pics of his gun when we meet again maybe in batangas level2 next month, metrillo built him a beauty!

sir try mo taper crimped reloads, mga 1.5mm cguro pde na, sometimes i go as far as 2.

regarding the box, the magwell will have to be shaved a bit at the back and the rear sight melted in. if you cant get the arredondo +3 metrillo has a +4 that will fit the box, it includes a custom follower, i saw all this on chromedg35's gun.

dalhin mo ke metrillo sir, papagandahin nya yan. fit the box pa hehe.

jimbullet
10-24-2009, 03:37
here's my Glock 35 for IPSC, Standard Division:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j130/saki1611/052.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j130/saki1611/046-1.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j130/saki1611/048.jpg

Could you also tell me specs of the FO front sight (height, width).

Thanks. really like gun

saki1611
10-24-2009, 03:43
the +2 pads from glock wont fit the box either, but the +3 from arredondo will, provided the rear sight is stock w/c has a very low profile..

sorry for my being very makulit...just wanna help.

i saw this website with regards to the size of the IPSC Box:

http://www.ipsc.org/divlistP.htm

i tried to draw the box in a bond paper just to have at least an idea if my gun would fit, so far it fits with the +2 basepad but of course better to check it in real box.

nice gun sir, si chromedg35 is doing well in standard w/ his metrillo built g35, ill get pics of his gun when we meet again maybe in batangas level2 next month, metrillo built him a beauty!

sir try mo taper crimped reloads, mga 1.5mm cguro pde na, sometimes i go as far as 2.

regarding the box, the magwell will have to be shaved a bit at the back and the rear sight melted in. if you cant get the arredondo +3 metrillo has a +4 that will fit the box, it includes a custom follower, i saw all this on chromedg35's gun.

dalhin mo ke metrillo sir, papagandahin nya yan. fit the box pa hehe.

that's good hopefully mura lang ang base pads.



thanks so much for all the advice, i'll consider those...


we played at Cavite City, it shoots almost flawlessly except at the last CQB stage i had a last 2 or 3 rounds trouble which i think ammo related. i think reaming can be considered since LWD barrel has a very tight chamber for a better tolerance for reloads and old shells.

mc_oliver
10-24-2009, 06:24
Si Shihan mey IPSC box. Sukat mo sa tutoo kasi yung corners mahirap mag estimate.

Tsaka last resort na yang reaming. Polish mo muna ng todo yung chamber at feed ramp.

Tsaka galeng nung Sandstorm sa iphone! :supergrin:

9MX
10-24-2009, 08:25
Tsaka last resort na yang reaming. Polish mo muna ng todo yung chamber at feed ramp.



translation: give your barrel to mco, his dremel is waiting (evil laugh in the background:rofl:)

mc_oliver
10-24-2009, 09:19
translation: give your barrel to mco, his dremel is waiting (evil laugh in the background:rofl:)
bwehehehe... :devildance:

st. matthew
10-24-2009, 15:37
saki,ganda! ano yung rear sight mo?


@putokglock
with a dawson magwell, will it fit in the box?

may shoot po ba kayo dyan this coming january?

s0nny_g17
10-24-2009, 16:57
i found some glock parts and accessories that might interest you
http://www.glockwarehouse.com/ - competition trigger
http://www.smartlock.com/index.htm - glock thumb rest

Putok-Glock
10-24-2009, 18:47
saki,ganda! ano yung rear sight mo?


@putokglock
with a dawson magwell, will it fit in the box?

may shoot po ba kayo dyan this coming january?

w/ a dawson magwell, it will fit the box w/o any modification to the magwell.

also, even w/o a magwell, the +2 base pad from glock wont fit the box iirc. besides this pad has the penchant for the infamous "hi-speed unloading," a not so desirable feature/accessory for any gun, defensive or competitionwise .

I dont have info yet re: matches here in Jan2010, the latest is Dec lev 1 match in Legazpi City by Bicol Gold Cuppers.

saki1611
10-24-2009, 19:52
double post, sorry...

saki1611
10-24-2009, 19:54
Si Shihan mey IPSC box. Sukat mo sa tutoo kasi yung corners mahirap mag estimate.

Tsaka last resort na yang reaming. Polish mo muna ng todo yung chamber at
feed ramp.

Tsaka galeng nung Sandstorm sa iphone! :supergrin:

i'll take your advise, master!:supergrin:

dami ka pa ma-load na games dyan through that application, i told you so...

translation: give your barrel to mco, his dremel is waiting (evil laugh in the background:rofl:)

:shocked:


saki,ganda! ano yung rear sight mo?


@putokglock
with a dawson magwell, will it fit in the box?

may shoot po ba kayo dyan this coming january?

front and rear is a set of LPA Sight both with FO, nasira ko lang yun FO ng rear...:crying: it's drop-in. i might consider to modify the basepads and magwell, than to touch the sights to fit in IPSC Box.

here's the site:

http://www.lpasights.com/catalogTTF.html

w/ a dawson magwell, it will fit the box w/o any modification to the magwell.

also, even w/o a magwell, the +2 base pad from glock wont fit the box iirc. besides this pad has the penchant for the infamous "hi-speed unloading," a not so desirable feature/accessory for any gun, defensive or competitionwise .

I dont have info yet re: matches here in Jan2010, the latest is Dec lev 1 match in Legazpi City by Bicol Gold Cuppers.

how's that "hi-speed unloading,"? thanks bro!

saki1611
10-24-2009, 20:00
Saki,

I like the way you have made this pistol. Really awesome! Can you tell me what rear sight is that - gayahin kita

(and where did you get the rear sights?)

Could you also tell me specs of the FO front sight (height, width).

Thanks. really like gun

thanks bro! sights is Set of LPA FO Adjustable Sights, bought it only from a friend from the other forum. here's the link:

http://www.lpasights.com/catalogTTF.html

Putok-Glock
10-24-2009, 23:08
how's that "hi-speed unloading,"? thanks bro!

When the mag is fully loaded and dropped it w/ the pad hitting the ground first, the pad comes out of its seat, spilling the mag spring, follower and bullets everywhere, fast. Same thing if the pad snagged on something while the mag is in the pouch, like when in ipsc start position seated, back rested, upon signal you bolt from your seat and the mag pad snagged on the backrest of the chair...all contents of the mag flies out as you are about to engage the cof! imagine that... I saw that happen quite a few times...on others not on me of course, hehe...we should learn from others...

Btw, welcome to better shooting w/ a glock, Bro! I've been there before and after some time w/ a 1911, think I'll be back to glock very soon.

atmarcella
10-24-2009, 23:33
hi-speed unloading is a nightmare. the glock +2's are immune to that but the scherer +2's are very suceptible. it happened to me 2x w/ scherer on 1cof, i had to backtrack to pick up my 1st mag afterwhich i quickly ran out of bullets, sabay headscratch. buti nalang wala ako plano manalo whahahahaha.

regarding tight glock aftermarket barrel chambers. mine is barsto, i tried polishing and reaming w/ no success. the eureka moment was when i used the lee fcd.

enjoy.

btw, whats the weight rating of your recoil spring? striker spring? trigger spring? connector? type of striker? spring cups? hehehe marami ako ma share sayo na info regarding the above. finding balance among those parts is crucial to get the gun running right. unless you have access to federal primers. if you do, it would not be an issue.

Putok-Glock
10-25-2009, 00:14
hi-speed unloading is a nightmare. the glock +2's are immune to that but the scherer +2's are very suceptible.

Im talking about the GLOCK +2. And I stand by my statement. I dont have any experience w/ the scherer.

atmarcella
10-25-2009, 00:18
ah ok, akala ko mas better quality ang original glock +2, lok-bu din pala hehehe.

Putok-Glock
10-25-2009, 00:51
btw, whats the weight rating of your recoil spring? striker spring? trigger spring? connector? type of striker? spring cups? .... finding balance among those parts is crucial to get the gun running right...

I would not advise to do these mods, a glock is not a 1911...unless the goal is to be a glocksmith...but a glock needs the least of 'smithing...so its not profitable.:supergrin:

saki1611
10-25-2009, 01:32
thanks so much for all the input, all are noted. might use for the moment the Glock +2, pending funds. i have to consider modifying the mag-well as well.

set-up inside the slide is Lightning Strike Striker and Safety Plunger (Titanium), so far i haven't encountered any dud with regards to primer failure, i'm using also the mariner cap, i read it's smoother than the stock. Temporarily i'm using the stock G22 recoil guide and spring. BTW, this is not a new whole gun, the lower frame is from my G22, just changing the whole upper for carry and IPSC. i'm using the 3.5 connector and polished all the contact points.

9MX
10-25-2009, 02:22
saki,

even si dojo, when he learned of your problem, feedramp polish lang daw katapat nyan, you're not supposed to ream the bbl because it should be within spec. try gauging a factory ammo, fit should be flush

saki1611
10-25-2009, 08:18
saki,

even si dojo, when he learned of your problem, feedramp polish lang daw katapat nyan, you're not supposed to ream the bbl because it should be within spec. try gauging a factory ammo, fit should be flush

i have no problems with factory ammos and JHP ammos, fits perfectly to my chamber. with the 200reloads you have made for me, 47rnds didn't fit. all that fits fired flawlessly yesterday when we shoot at Cavite City. how i wish polishing is enough to lessen the problem the bulging of shells but i have too consider to the tolerance for reloads ammo with used shells. anyways, i'll try to have it polished and see if the 47rnds ammo or at least some of it will fit. thanks!

mtho
10-25-2009, 08:21
naka fcd na si mannix diba?
or you ca guage all your ammo thats going to be used on your glock

Putok-Glock
10-25-2009, 08:34
or you ca guage all your ammo thats going to be used on your glock

+1.

and use your chamber as gage.

saki1611
10-25-2009, 08:49
+1.

and use your chamber as gage.

that's what i'm doing...

mtho
10-25-2009, 08:58
tapos me sabit pa na 47? i think kelangan mo nang taasan bayad sa reloader mo para matino yung bala na gawin sayo

Putok-Glock
10-25-2009, 09:02
i have no problems with factory ammos and JHP ammos, fits perfectly to my chamber. with the 200reloads you have made for me, 47rnds didn't fit. all that fits fired flawlessly yesterday when we shoot at Cavite City. how i wish polishing is enough to lessen the problem the bulging of shells but i have too consider to the tolerance for reloads ammo with used shells. anyways, i'll try to have it polished and see if the 47rnds ammo or at least some of it will fit. thanks!

no amount of polishing the ramp or chamber walls will help an ammo w/ bulged shell feed into your gun. just select and segregate the ammo for your LW barrel. Or use the OFM barrel so you can use all those shells.

edit to add: in fact if polishing is made a bit too much, it could damage your barrel beyond repair.

Putok-Glock
10-25-2009, 09:37
my ugly duckling

<a href="http://s274.photobucket.com/albums/jj262/BenHurYap/?action=view&current=128.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj262/BenHurYap/128.jpg" border="0" alt="my glock 35.4"></a>

saki1611
10-25-2009, 16:31
i have no problems with factory ammos and JHP ammos, fits perfectly to my chamber. with the 200reloads you have made for me, 47rnds didn't fit. all that fits fired flawlessly yesterday when we shoot at Cavite City. how i wish polishing is enough to lessen the problem the bulging of shells but i have too consider to the tolerance for reloads ammo with used shells. anyways, i'll try to have it polished and see if the 47rnds ammo or at least some of it will fit. thanks!

no amount of polishing the ramp or chamber walls will help an ammo w/ bulged shell feed into your gun. just select and segregate the ammo for your LW barrel. Or use the OFM barrel so you can use all those shells.

edit to add: in fact if polishing is made a bit too much, it could damage your barrel beyond repair.

I read also, the best way is to separate the shells that fit in LWD barrel chamber or use new shells and use it exclusively for that barrel. Ammo in right specs actually has no problem with LWD barrels.

Putok-Glock
10-25-2009, 17:30
I read also, the best way is to separate the shells that fit in LWD barrel chamber or use new shells and use it exclusively for that barrel. Ammo in right specs actually has no problem with LWD barrels.

quite correct. thats the best and only way. and you wont need the lee fcd die...

and if you are to use major ipsc loads in the future, smaller dimensioned chambers usually produce higher pf w/ lesser powder compared to non match chambers w/ same reload specs.

mtho
10-25-2009, 19:40
I read also, the best way is to separate the shells that fit in LWD barrel chamber or use new shells and use it exclusively for that barrel. Ammo in right specs actually has no problem with LWD barrels.

ano tawag mo dun sa mga reload ni mannix:tongueout:

mtho
10-25-2009, 19:42
seriously, guage the bullets na papasok sa lwd, yung di papasok para sa armscor mo nalang.

atmarcella
10-26-2009, 00:41
a glock is not a 1911

exactly. if it were all you had to do is bring it to a smith, but bcos its not, you can DIY.

pero me smith na din dito na tumitira ng glock, if you've seen the work done by metrillo ma impress din kayo.

Safety Plunger (Titanium),

you can disable this. the gun will be fine w/o it, but some people are not comfortable w/o it, so its up to you.

stock G22 recoil guide

stock is 17lbs., you can go 15lbs. w/ tungsten rod, that would be better. going lower will unlock the slide when pulling the trigger. a 4lb. striker spring would really help lower your trigger pull, since you're using a titanium striker i guess it will still be reliable. i use a lightened steel w/ a 4lb spring and its reliable even w/ cci white primers, the hard ones. a skeletonized connector will also help w/ reset, especially if you also use the glockmeister extra power trigger spring.

regarding overtravel and pre-travel trigger stops, i dont think its needed especially if you disable the safety plunger and use the extra power trigger spring. the power of the spring will eliminate pre-travel.


regarding ammo,....nix, try to eliminate the shoulders of the bullet when you crimp, diba kung matindi ang crimp meron ka makita "crimp marks" sa basyo? dapat at least mga 1mm-1.5mm ang marks na yun, try mo lang, nothing to lose naman.


:wavey:

saki1611
10-26-2009, 06:50
quite correct. thats the best and only way. and you wont need the lee fcd die...

and if you are to use major ipsc loads in the future, smaller dimensioned chambers usually produce higher pf w/ lesser powder compared to non match chambers w/ same reload specs.

yup... thanks!

ano tawag mo dun sa mga reload ni mannix:tongueout:
:dunno::supergrin:


seriously, guage the bullets na papasok sa lwd, yung di papasok para sa armscor mo nalang.

that'll be my plan...

exactly. if it were all you had to do is bring it to a smith, but bcos its not, you can DIY.

pero me smith na din dito na tumitira ng glock, if you've seen the work done by metrillo ma impress din kayo.



you can disable this. the gun will be fine w/o it, but some people are not comfortable w/o it, so its up to you.



stock is 17lbs., you can go 15lbs. w/ tungsten rod, that would be better. going lower will unlock the slide when pulling the trigger. a 4lb. striker spring would really help lower your trigger pull, since you're using a titanium striker i guess it will still be reliable. i use a lightened steel w/ a 4lb spring and its reliable even w/ cci white primers, the hard ones. a skeletonized connector will also help w/ reset, especially if you also use the glockmeister extra power trigger spring.

regarding overtravel and pre-travel trigger stops, i dont think its needed especially if you disable the safety plunger and use the extra power trigger spring. the power of the spring will eliminate pre-travel.


regarding ammo,....nix, try to eliminate the shoulders of the bullet when you crimp, diba kung matindi ang crimp meron ka makita "crimp marks" sa basyo? dapat at least mga 1mm-1.5mm ang marks na yun, try mo lang, nothing to lose naman.


:wavey:

so many options for glock, so far i'm quite satisfied but when funds permit why not. safety plunger or firing pin safety block is the only safety i trust among the features of handguns today, removing it from my glock is a last resort. thanks for the suggestion though. among other things i might install is a tungsten or brass extended guide rod with 15lbs recoil spring and probably the skeletonized connector. thanks again, i learned a lot!

9MX
10-26-2009, 07:48
ano tawag mo dun sa mga reload ni mannix:tongueout:

eh di reloads, ngongo:rofl:

9MX
10-26-2009, 07:50
tapos me sabit pa na 47? i think kelangan mo nang taasan bayad sa reloader mo para matino yung bala na gawin sayo

o kaya paload siya sayo:faint:

Putok-Glock
10-26-2009, 08:03
Not to hi-jack your thread bro, but... the biggest question in my mind now is:

Can our glocks perform as good as, if not better, than our 1911's in IPSC std div? w/ or w/o modifications.

And, can we shoot them glocks as good as, if not better, than we shoot 1911s in Std div? assuming we practice religiously.

Im talking of serious competitions here, not a fun shoot...

I've used both platforms in IPSC matches (in std div) for years but until now I can't answer these quetions w/ certainty.

Care to share your thoughts?

If this post appear out of place here, pls feel free to ignore it, mga bro...

9MX
10-26-2009, 09:46
Putok Glock,

I think match results will be the best gauge..the 1911 has remain to be the dominant platform in IPSC Standard Division. Until Glock reaches that status, it would always play 2nd fiddle to the 1911

ans3288
10-26-2009, 17:13
IMHO for the average weekend shooter like me, the 1911 will be more prefereed the glock in STD div bec. of the lighter trigger pull. like what 9mx said, more 1911 shooters than glock in STD div.

but if you are a TOP shooter paid by glock to use and endorse, and your only work is shooting, then your chances of winning competitions are as good as the TOP 1911 shooter :)

Allegra
10-26-2009, 17:19
Not to hi-jack your thread bro, but... the biggest question in my mind now is:

Can our glocks perform as good as, if not better, than our 1911's in IPSC std div? w/ or w/o modifications.

And, can we shoot them glocks as good as, if not better, than we shoot 1911s in Std div? assuming we practice religiously.

Im talking of serious competitions here, not a fun shoot...

I've used both platforms in IPSC matches (in std div) for years but until now I can't answer these quetions w/ certainty.

Care to share your thoughts?

If this post appear out of place here, pls feel free to ignore it, mga bro...


Field test
1 month practice sa glock then shoot classifiers, then 1 mo naman sa 1911
I'm guessing , pareho lang score or negligible ang diff assuming hindi biased sa 1911 ang tester

Putok-Glock
10-26-2009, 17:26
Putok Glock,

I think match results will be the best gauge..the 1911 has remain to be the dominant platform in IPSC Standard Division. Until Glock reaches that status, it would always play 2nd fiddle to the 1911

Its maybe because 99% of the shooters in std div trust and use 1911 so probability-wise 1911 should be on top always.

Putok-Glock
10-26-2009, 17:46
Field test
1 month practice sa glock then shoot classifiers, then 1 mo naman sa 1911
I'm guessing , pareho lang score or negligible ang diff assuming hindi biased sa 1911 ang tester

I used glock in serious practice and competition (std div) for 3 consecutive years then shifted to 1911 in the past 3 yrs. Up to this writing, I cant say one is better to shoot than the other. I can only say that the Gklock platform has an advantage over the 1911 on most areas of concern to the shooter, namely, reliability out of the box, rugged, high mileage, less gunsmithing, DIY maintenance, and despite its light weight, easier to manage in recoil (contrary to majority opinion) because of its grip profile, and much cheaper...on the 1911 side, its the trigger advantage (only?). But both types of trigger can be learned/mastered so its more of a software issue if the shooter is willing to do his/her part.

So your guess is as good as mine... but its still a guess, bro:supergrin:

but your guess is a very fair and objective assessment/opinion Ive read so far for quite some time re: this matter. specially if you are a 1911 shooter yourself.

saki1611
10-26-2009, 18:11
Not to hi-jack your thread bro, but... the biggest question in my mind now is:

Can our glocks perform as good as, if not better, than our 1911's in IPSC std div? w/ or w/o modifications.

And, can we shoot them glocks as good as, if not better, than we shoot 1911s in Std div? assuming we practice religiously.

Im talking of serious competitions here, not a fun shoot...

I've used both platforms in IPSC matches (in std div) for years but until now I can't answer these quetions w/ certainty.

Care to share your thoughts?

If this post appear out of place here, pls feel free to ignore it, mga bro...

though i'm not really that good because probably lack of practice, having funds for practices would be a different story.:supergrin:

so far the way i observe my game, i can shoot my G35 either as good as or better than my Armscor Hi-cap. i have a less felt recoil and muzzle up shooting my G35 than the 1911 Hi-cap, well of course we have to consider the set-up of both pistols. My G35 as of now is using the stock recoil spring and guide rod and with longer slide and barrel, while my Armscor has a bull barrel and ss reverse plug and guide rod. both are using same load of ammo. one big difference to consider too is the trigger set-up/pull, which obviously 1911 surpasses the Glock. i'm not that serious competitor of IPSC, but as of now i'm much enjoying shooting my G35 than my Armscor Hi-cap.

paltiq
10-26-2009, 19:00
nice G35! ....a friend of mine using a stock (12 rounder) HS40 tactical last ELmo SanDiego Cup....beats all his STI friends...;-)

atmarcella
10-26-2009, 20:02
regarding PG(putok-glock) question,

IMO, if a glock40 never.... ever won in competition, then its a hardware issue. the gun sucks. period.

but it has... in fact, its the only platform other than a 1911 to win in uspsa limited. w/c is basically the same as ipsc standard, the only difference i see is longer mags. but everybody, incl 1911, is permitted to use those 140mm mags. so its an even playing field.

you can say that sevigny is a factory shooter, all he does is shoot. bakit si leatham, jarret, tomasie et al, hindi ba sila factory shooters???


the question is, IS IT COMPETITIVE OR NOT?

for me the answer is, yes.


think of it this way, kung si jag lejano dedicates himself to learning to shoot the glock35, dont you think he will win?


its a software issue my friends, it has always been a software issue.


another example, jethro shoots a single stack in a hi-cap division, who wins? his hardware is inferior to his adversaries, who wins?


its the software. pwede din indian. pwede din shooter kung tawagin hehehehe.


cheers.

mtho
10-26-2009, 21:38
o kaya paload siya sayo:faint:

wag ka makikinig ke mannix, ang alam ko lang sa reloading eh mamintas :tongueout:,


nix, mamayang gabi ka na sumagot.
alam ko wala kang gt sa office

Putok-Glock
10-26-2009, 23:02
to date, this is my detailed study of the 2 platforms:

w/ the glock, recoil recovery is fast, can manage it w/o much effort because of its light weight, grip configuration, (can grip it higher near bore axis and slanted forward,) and its plastic frame. Trigger has longer pull and reset, but can have a light pull down to 2 lb or less like the Vanek. W/ a 3.5lb pull, I can shoot it at a .22sec split and still hit 2 alphas at an ipsc classic brd fr 10y w/ regularity. not so impressive. but what impresses me is that I could not outshoot its sight recovery. It recovers on its own so fast that i can just trust the sights to return to target faster than i can reset and release the trigger for the second shot. When I say I trust the sights to retrurn it doesnt mean double tapping, I still shoot 2 shots w/ 2 acceptable sight pics i see.

w/ my custom para 1911, my recoil management requires a lot of effort due to its heavier weight, grip angle and gripping hands far below the bore axis. Result is slower sight recovery on target. If I had to return it fast I had to muscle it back. On the other hand, its trigger has a very short reset and release. I can manipulate it fast but my problem is I often outshoot its sight recovery. The trigger has already reset and ready for the second shot but the sights are not. The muzzle is still elevated pointing above alpha. If I shoot at .22 split as above, my second shot will hit high and usually outside alpha. If I try to use muscle tension to recover fr recoil as fast as my trigger reset, I usually flinch and hit low outside alpha. The most I could do was wait for the sights to align on its own then release the shot. and thats a bit slower than .22sec. In close targets, 7y and below, its not an issue.

in a nut shell, glock has fast recoil recovery w/ relatively slower trigger while a 1911 has slower recoil recovery w/ relatively faster trigger. In terms of time and hits, they could be the same. W/c of the two one choses is one's prerogative. But sometimes, if not most of the time, what we choose does not necessarily fit best our temperament and personality.

just a product of my limited experience on both.

edited: those splits should read .26sec not .22sec. checked my records in 2006, sorry for the error.

saki1611
10-27-2009, 02:54
So i think and still believe, it's always not the gun but the man behind the gun. A shooter can adopt and be precised to any gun for as long as he dedicatedly practice with it. Yet there are people who are gifted that can easily adjust in adopting the tool in their hand, but practice or constant use is still the key to master one tool to another.


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Allegra
10-27-2009, 06:03
It doesnt matter na din
Most people who shoot standard ay nasa std kasi they cant stand another platform na hindi 1911/2011
So I doubt the glock would gain popularity sa std no matter how good it is
Most gloch shooters will shoot production


on a related note - gusto ko makita si sevigny pumutok ng 1911 hehe dq yun

mtho
10-27-2009, 06:37
John loyd,
eto yung video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpjrNLi2uwU

Allegra
10-27-2009, 07:11
John loyd,
eto yung video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpjrNLi2uwU


impostor!!!!

mtho
10-27-2009, 07:51
di ba sya yun? parang ang daming videos ng ibat ibang stages

Allegra
10-27-2009, 18:06
Kapatid nya yun , si....douglas sevigny

GMV
10-28-2009, 02:21
di ba sya yun? parang ang daming videos ng ibat ibang stages

SS nationals yan. Check out his interview below on the non-glocks he uses:

"When you compete in other USPSA divisions, which non-Glock pistols do you shoot?
For Single Stack Iíll run either a Springfield or Caspian .45 ACP, Govít 1911 built by JOJOís Custom in Connecticut. I also have a Springfield 9mm 1911 built by Harrison Design in Georgia that Iíll train with. For Open I use either a short SVI 9◊19 or full-size SV and STI .38 Super Comp pistols." http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/dave-sevigny-interview-faq/

Makes you wonder, will his performance be affected if he used a different platform (get better or worse or just the same)? :whistling:

Allegra
10-28-2009, 22:21
Sa dami ng fans ng sig , dapat meron din silang sponsored shooter ala sevigny at adam tyc
It's used by the navy seals, SAS etc

st. matthew
10-29-2009, 03:34
SIG shooter? here you are :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ie3_0DTcE

GMV
10-29-2009, 03:41
Sa dami ng fans ng sig , dapat meron din silang sponsored shooter ala sevigny at adam tyc
It's used by the navy seals, SAS etc

Fafa A, sponsored nila si Max Michel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ie3_0DTcE

Allegra
10-29-2009, 05:34
Hmmp...drats....foiled again

atmarcella
10-29-2009, 19:17
Makes you wonder, will his performance be affected if he used a different platform (get better or worse or just the same)?

its the same. konti adjustments lang. after all is said and done. ipsc is, and will always be,.... a sport. and in sports, athletes succeed. an athlete is someone who has the physical attributes, support (starts at childhood mostly, but...), time, dedication and passion for the discipline. successful athletes have all 5. personally, i just have 1. passion. some have 4 or 3 or 2. its good to have all 5.

cheers.

Putok-Glock
10-29-2009, 21:55
It doesnt matter na din
Most people who shoot standard ay nasa std kasi they cant stand another platform na hindi 1911/2011
So I doubt the glock would gain popularity sa std no matter how good it is
Most gloch shooters will shoot production




+1

very good perspective!

collegedude
11-01-2009, 03:41
Thanks for the mais-con-yelo and leche flan!

That's what I charge for sights installation.

Trigger job - Quarter Pounder with Cheese Meal (go bigtime)
Slide to Frame Fitting - Savory Chicken with Pansit
Barrel Crowning - Chowking Halo-Halo
Gun Blueing - Dear Darla Pizza from Yellowcab
20-30lpi checkering - 1 dozen Cunanan Ensaymadas and a Coke 1.5l with ice.


hehhe:rofl: sir puede rin ba mag pa install ng sights sa inyo papa cheese burger nalang ako :embarassed:

collegedude
11-01-2009, 03:53
i found some glock parts and accessories that might interest you
http://www.glockwarehouse.com/ - competition trigger
http://www.smartlock.com/index.htm - glock thumb rest

thanks, for sharing cool yung glock and xd Recoil Control Thumb Rest.

saki1611
11-24-2009, 05:26
Latest upgrade with my Glock 35:


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