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edtf
10-23-2009, 04:24
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/175368/comelec-oks-total-gun-ban-for-2010-elections


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Comelec OKs 'total' gun ban for 2010 elections
KIMBERLY JANE T. TAN, GMANews.TV
10/23/2009 | 11:26 AM
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Starting February 9 next year, a total gun ban will be in effect nationwide for the duration of the 2010 election campaign period, the Commission on Elections (Comelec) has said.

Though the poll body has yet to release a resolution ordering for the ban, Comelec chairman Jose Melo said the plan will definitely be implemented. "It’s about time na mag-gun ban tayo (that we enforce a gun ban)," he told reporters in an interview on Thursday.

Melo said they plan on coming out with the resolution next week.

Under the ban, Melo said it will illegal for anyone who is not a candidate for public office to carry any kind of firearm during the campaign period which starts 90 days before the election for national candidates and 45 days before the polls for local candidates.

This means the official campaign period for next year’s national polls will start on Feb. 9, 2010 and end on May 8 of the same year. Campaign period for local elections is from March 26, 2010 to May 8, 2010.

Melo added that only the security detail of those who will be running for the position of mayor and above may carry firearms. Only two security personnel in uniform are allowed per candidate.

“Walang mga civilian na hihingi ng (No civilian will be asking for) exemption," said Melo, adding that the only ones to be exempted from the ban are the security escorts of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and Vice President Noli De Castro.

The Comelec chief said they will also be asking for pictures of the security personnel assigned to each candidate for security.

“Para kapag may nangyari, maidentify natin kung involved yung security detail nila (So that if anything happens, we will know if their security detail are involved)," he said.

According to data from the Philippine National Police (PNP)’s Directorate for Investigation and Detection Management (DIDM), there were 162 election-related violent incidents (ERVI) during the 2007 election period.

Of the 162 recorded ERVIs, 72 involved the use of firearms.

Three regions logged the highest number of ERVIs involving firearms. These include the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM), the Cordillera Administrative Region (CAR), and the Western Mindanao Region.

In that election period, the police arrested 2,314 people for violating the gun ban and confiscated about 2,000 firearms nationwide. - GMANews.TV

nitrox920
10-23-2009, 04:59
Just for information according to a Comelec commissioner Last National Election there were 80,000 individuals that were granted gun ban exemption and 5,000 of this were politicians... imagine comelec giving up 40 Million pesos in cold cash... :rofl:

edtf
10-23-2009, 07:30
Did you guys notice this:


"Under the ban, Melo said it will illegal for anyone who is not a candidate for public office to carry any kind of firearm during the campaign period which starts 90 days before the election for national candidates and 45 days before the polls for local candidates."


What makes them so special that they are the only ones who can carry?? Are their lives more important than mine???

BrassKnuckle
10-23-2009, 07:36
Imposing a gun ban is just a highly publicized way of showing that they are doing something about election violence. But as we all know, there is a big difference between looking like you're doing something and actually accomplishing something.

Napaka naive naman nila. Do they actually believe that with the election gun ban, bitter political rivals will finally decide not to kill each other? Or maybe they think that the ban will prevent the average law-abiding responsible gun owner from moonlighting as a hitman during the election period.

This is just an extension of the "More guns = More Crime" mindset that has been proven wrong time and again by empirical research.

Young Once
10-23-2009, 09:24
Kahit may gun ban, carry pa din!

jojo_G19
10-23-2009, 09:36
Kahit may gun ban, carry pa din!

correct...:tongueout::tongueout::tongueout:



jojo

foxyyy
10-23-2009, 10:23
Kahit may gun ban, carry pa din!

i 3rd the motion!!! :tongueout:

i_am_infinity
10-23-2009, 10:32
Do you guys remember the incident with Cong. Antonino sa Nueva Ecija nakipag barilan sila sa rival nya??? Dami namatay dun ah...until now wala naman nangyari.

Also, tingnan nyo naman lahat nasa Southern Philippines ang critical areas eh di dun na lang nila i-ban...hay Logic naman sana gamitin. tsk tsk tsk~~

nitrox920
10-23-2009, 13:58
Being a Law Abiding Responsible Gun Owner in the Philippines... I will carry my Firearm with me during the Comelec Gun Ban. My Family safety is more important to me than MELO stupid order...

The HELL with GUN BAN !!!

JBJ16
10-23-2009, 14:28
Did you guys notice this:


"Under the ban, Melo said it will illegal for anyone who is not a candidate for public office to carry any kind of firearm during the campaign period which starts 90 days before the election for national candidates and 45 days before the polls for local candidates."


What makes them so special that they are the only ones who can carry?? Are their lives more important than mine???

Yes! Only in da Pilipins.:crying:

PMMA97
10-23-2009, 14:50
Guys we must obey the Law. :cool:

If we must carry we should run for office.

Magkano ba mag file ng candidacy then get an exemption?:supergrin:

bikethief
10-23-2009, 16:48
Guys, let's keep our potentially illegal battlecries to ourselves. Or if you have legitimate gripes about the Comelec gunban then course it through the proper channels. We don't want to look like a lawless band of gunowners here right? Discretion is a virtue when it comes to dealing with these things.

vega
10-23-2009, 17:20
Someone is asking to be suspended or banned on this site.

ETA - Check no. 1 rule....

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1097978

Wp.22
10-23-2009, 17:35
according to the news only two bodyguards are permitted to one condidate pwede kaya alternate yung 20 bodyguards 2 at a time

ans3288
10-23-2009, 19:22
theoretically those are the rules, but the problem is that would anybody DARE to question a candidate why more than 2 of his bodyguards have guns? u risk getting urself in a lot of trouble when the candidate gets to win his/her seat! :wow:

question, will police arrest and prosecute people with guns without exception? or this "total gun ban" only applies to law abiding gun owners with no political clout? while warlords and the like are exempted from this? :dunno:

according to the news only two bodyguards are permitted to one condidate pwede kaya alternate yung 20 bodyguards 2 at a time

Black_SIR
10-23-2009, 19:38
2 bogyguards? ok pag rambo ang isa sa kanila then matching chuck norris.

impossible total gun ban na yan.. pweh!!!! dito nga civilains may private army.

gun ban? eh holdup kidnap carnap, pati dognap aakyat..

wake up pilipinas!!!!

jimbullet
10-23-2009, 20:39
theoretically those are the rules, but the problem is that would anybody DARE to question a candidate why more than 2 of his bodyguards have guns? u risk getting urself in a lot of trouble when the candidate gets to win his/her seat! :wow:

question, will police arrest and prosecute people with guns without exception? or this "total gun ban" only applies to law abiding gun owners with no political clout? while warlords and the like are exempted from this? :dunno:

This is a valid point.

TTPower
10-23-2009, 20:57
if the gun ban starts on feb 9, 2010.... when will it end?

edtf
10-24-2009, 04:43
Guys we must obey the Law. :cool:

If we must carry we should run for office.

Magkano ba mag file ng candidacy then get an exemption?:supergrin:

Thats what we were just discussing with my friend - I was thinking of running for Barangay Captain or maybe councilor :supergrin:

Glock_19_9x19
10-24-2009, 04:47
Rules are rules and the law, no matter how harsh, is still the law.

edtf
10-24-2009, 04:48
if the gun ban starts on feb 9, 2010.... when will it end?

mid june

enting
10-24-2009, 07:13
Total gun ban for the law abiding citizens.

ans3288
10-24-2009, 16:08
totally AGREE!!!

to better phrase it
"total gun ban only for law abiding citizens" :steamed:

Total gun ban for the law abiding citizens.

Evela
10-24-2009, 20:15
Urban myth.

choi_tan2000
10-25-2009, 19:03
so bawal din magdala ng baril taga comelec ha?


only pres and vice pres datail allowed eh

Black_SIR
10-25-2009, 19:24
bakit, mga PRO GUN ba sanhi ng kaguluhan?? kalokohan ang mga iyan..

edtf
10-25-2009, 20:32
so bawal din magdala ng baril taga comelec ha?


only pres and vice pres datail allowed eh

DAPAT! - the weirdest is candidates can also apply for exemption eh sila at mga tao nila yung nagpapatayan eh :dunno:

liveandletlive
10-25-2009, 22:31
If problems are not well analyzed, implemented solutions are usually empirical and not evidence-based and therefore have a higher chance of failure. It seems that our officials don't really care about finding the cause of the problem or they might not be dedicated enough to implement the right solution because it's harder to do. It's a lot easier to impose a total gun ban than it is to dismantle private armies and or bring organized BGs to justice. After the total gun ban they can claim that they had a solution implemented, even if after the elections many people have died of bullet wounds. I can see then them starting to blame things to situations and other people but never themselves and their lack of motivation to do the right but more difficult thing to do such as diligent and focused crime solving programs.

asian_glockster
10-26-2009, 20:17
I think it is very expensive and unfair to the general populace to assign two (2) police officers per candidate. Kulang na tayo sa kapulisan, i-dedetail pa sa pulitiko. Candidates should provide their own security. Not all PNP personnel are trained bodyguards. They have different fields of expertise. (Please correct me if I'm wrong)

COMELEC should still accept application for exemption for the firearms ban. They should evaluate whether or not the applicant is entitled. In short, magtrabaho sila. Katamaran lang kasi ang sasabihin nilang walang bibigyan ng exemption. Pagtiagaan nila mag evaluate ng application. Hindi naman sila magtiyatiyagang mag-apply kung wala silang threat sa buhay.

jimbullet
10-27-2009, 04:47
I think it is very expensive and unfair to the general populace to assign two (2) police officers per candidate. Kulang na tayo sa kapulisan, i-dedetail pa sa pulitiko. Candidates should provide their own security. Not all PNP personnel are trained bodyguards. They have different fields of expertise. (Please correct me if I'm wrong)

COMELEC should still accept application for exemption for the firearms ban. They should evaluate whether or not the applicant is entitled. In short, magtrabaho sila. Katamaran lang kasi ang sasabihin nilang walang bibigyan ng exemption. Pagtiagaan nila mag evaluate ng application. Hindi naman sila magtiyatiyagang mag-apply kung wala silang threat sa buhay.

If I am not mistaken, having enlisted PNP personnel serve as bodyguards for candidates was thought of obviously to protect the candidates but more so to avoid any candidate from having their own goons or private armies of their own.

Black_SIR
10-27-2009, 19:42
policemen as thier bodyguard? it means we pay their salary thru our taxes... :steamed::steamed::steamed::steamed:

liveandletlive
10-28-2009, 09:00
I would really love to know what set of data/research they used to decide that total gun ban is the solution to election related violence.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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It is frustrating for me to not be able to bring my guns to the range for practice. It is more than just frustrating for others... but life threatening, I'm sure. I have LEO friends who are in danger of being subject of possible hit on account of what they have done in the past protecting the law and bringing BGs to justice. Those BGs have friends too, I hope Melo knows. <o:p></o:p>
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What if some of them travel from a remote assignment thru or to a City residence? If he gets caught travelling with a gun off duty in the city on his way home, he'd be in trouble with the law. If he will not carry... well, I'm trying not to think about it. But if something bad happens because they tried to follow the rules and became defenceless... there should be a law also to make those officials accountable.<o:p></o:p>
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Total GB is total BS... why don't they work extra hard to identify who needs to carry a piece badly and help him not be a victim. This government needs some serious changing.... <o:p></o:p>

liveandletlive
10-28-2009, 09:03
Teka, nakalimutan ko pala to...

:steamed::steamed::steamed::steamed:

nitrox920
11-02-2009, 09:03
MANILA, Philippines—Three people were wounded when two motorcycle-riding robbers fired at their Toyota Lite Ace after it stopped at a traffic light on the Roxas Boulevard service road in Parañaque City Sunday morning.

Police identified the victims as Ruben Chua, 44, a resident of New Manila, Quezon City; his wife Joslyn, 41; and his mother-in-law Clarita Jo, 69.

Only Denzel, 13—Ruben and Joslyn’s son—was unhurt because his father shielded him with his body.

Senior Police Officer Reynaldo Ferrer of the Manila Police District Station 5 said in his report that after the shooting, the robbers forced open the van’s doors and divested the victims of their belongings before escaping.

Ferrer said the shooting and robbery happened at around 8:30 a.m. Sunday after the couple fetched their son and Joslyn’s mother at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE SHOULD DEMAND FROM COMELEC COM.MELO THAT THE GUN BAN MUST BE BAN...:supergrin:

nitrox920
11-02-2009, 09:17
Binondo residents prepare for rise in kidnappings
(The Philippine Star) Updated September 08, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The Filipino-Chinese community is gearing up for the expected upsurge in kidnap cases with the onset of “ber” months, police said yesterday.

Meisic police station chief Superintendent Nelson Yabut has deployed additional foot patrol personnel in Binondo, particularly along Ongpin and Padilla streets.

“Though there is no reported kidnapping cases in Binondo at this time, the police will not remain complacent and allow kidnap syndicates to commit their criminal activities against the Filipino-Chinese community,” Yabut told The STAR.

The Philippine National Police said it is traditionally on alert from September to December, when there is a reported rise in criminal activities, including abductions.