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glock_ME
10-30-2009, 14:12
I've been looking for a .22 for plinking and later down the road for my son to learn on. I was planning on buying a stock 10/22 and modding it as time goes on - piece by piece. I'm sure most of you 10/22 owners can relate.

I saw the new 10/22 target tactical on Ruger's page and it got my interest.

Has anyone held one of these? I know it's new but I assume they are out there somewhere already.

Would it be beneficial to purchase this rifle at $500 or so and just be done with it?

The Maggy
10-30-2009, 16:20
depending on how much a new 10/22 costs in your area, I would suggest buying a base no frills model and building it yourself.

You are paying an extra $300 to $350 for a hogue stock, bipod legs, and a bull barrel. The Hogue you can get $60-$70, walmart has the legs for $30ish and you can get a barrel that will knock the socks off a stock barrel for under $200 shipped.

DPris
10-31-2009, 18:01
Picked up a loaner from Ruger on Thursday.
I like the balance & length out of the box, waiting for a Weaver rimfire scope to stick on it.
Had some discussion with Ruger about it, the glass-filled nylon trigger group is actually stronger than aluminum on the older models, and the fire control parts (along with that housing) are fabricated more consistently in dimensions now.

Barrel's hammer forged, target crowned. Stock is grippy. Trigger's not too bad for a factory setup.
Have not mounted the pod, it's the same one furnished for the Charger.
Denis

glock_ME
11-01-2009, 12:50
thanks for the info.

is it a harris bipod? if not, is it of good quality?

i haven't seen the charger bipod...


have you fired it? if so, how is the accuracy?



thanks again.

DPris
11-01-2009, 13:06
It's not a Harris, it's a no-name pod.
I have not fired it yet, waiting for a scope to arrive. Comes with no sights.
Denis

glock_ME
11-01-2009, 19:09
depending on how much a new 10/22 costs in your area, I would suggest buying a base no frills model and building it yourself.
You are paying an extra $300 to $350 for a hogue stock, bipod legs, and a bull barrel. The Hogue you can get $60-$70, walmart has the legs for $30ish and you can get a barrel that will knock the socks off a stock barrel for under $200 shipped.

this is the exact debate i'm having with myself.

the upsides are -

the target tactical is the exact setup i was looking for (short barrel, bipod, synthetic stock, rail mount, better trigger)

10/22's are 250-300 locally i believe. i'm not sure i could get a stock, barrel, bipod, scope rail, and trigger for only 250-300 more. also, the 555 msrp is more like 450-500 in reality probably - maybe not immediately but in a short while...

DPris
11-01-2009, 19:56
Not trying to plead for or against the gun, but you know street price will be markedly lower, and there's something to be said for the convenience of buying a package deal that's already mated together.
Also factor in travel time, gas money, tax, and potential shipping fees if you try to chase down the individual components to assemble one yourself.
Denis

The Maggy
11-01-2009, 21:16
this is the exact debate i'm having with myself.

the upsides are -

the target tactical is the exact setup i was looking for (short barrel, bipod, synthetic stock, rail mount, better trigger)

10/22's are 250-300 locally i believe. i'm not sure i could get a stock, barrel, bipod, scope rail, and trigger for only 250-300 more. also, the 555 msrp is more like 450-500 in reality probably - maybe not immediately but in a short while...

I was unaware of the going price for a new 1022 in your area. :wow: My 10/22 carbine was $180 out the door.

In your situation it sounds like would break even or save a few dollars by picking up the 10/22t. Anyway you do it, it's going to be a great gun that will last a long time.

glock_ME
11-02-2009, 10:39
I was unaware of the going price for a new 1022 in your area. :wow: My 10/22 carbine was $180 out the door.
In your situation it sounds like would break even or save a few dollars by picking up the 10/22t. Anyway you do it, it's going to be a great gun that will last a long time.

well it's a crappy situation in terms of supply/demand. it's almost as if the shop owners around here go on able ammo or bud's (10/22 seem to be just under $200 on those sites) and calculate how much a ffl fee and shipping/tax would be and just charge that. my only other hope is walmart but they are still around $230 plus tax (so $250 total) for the 10/22 last time i checked.

for sake of argument if i could find one for $180 which 16" crowned or threaded barrel should i be looking at? if that were $175 and the stock and bipod totaled $90-100 i'd still be at $450 or so and the 10/22t trigger is supposed to be better than stock...

don't get me wrong, i would LOVE to build one from scratch but if i'm going to end up with essentially the same exact rifle i will probably just buy the 10/22t and save time and tax/shipping as someone mentioned above.

The Maggy
11-02-2009, 11:07
well it's a crappy situation in terms of supply/demand. it's almost as if the shop owners around here go on able ammo or bud's (10/22 seem to be just under $200 on those sites) and calculate how much a ffl fee and shipping/tax would be and just charge that. my only other hope is walmart but they are still around $230 plus tax (so $250 total) for the 10/22 last time i checked.

for sake of argument if i could find one for $180 which 16" crowned or threaded barrel should i be looking at? if that were $175 and the stock and bipod totaled $90-100 i'd still be at $450 or so and the 10/22t trigger is supposed to be better than stock...

don't get me wrong, i would LOVE to build one from scratch but if i'm going to end up with essentially the same exact rifle i will probably just buy the 10/22t and save time and tax/shipping as someone mentioned above.

Kidd and Clark are excellent barrels to go with. They are both made from Walther blanks and are very hard to beat in terms of price and quality.

http://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=5

http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/riflepts.htm

under those two, there are TacSol and Green Mountain

http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=TS1022&Category_Code=B

http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/catalog.aspx?catid=10-22.920sporterdiameterbarrels

All of these are great choices. The stock "T" barrel will give results close to the bottom two on the list.

glock_ME
11-02-2009, 14:35
Kidd and Clark are excellent barrels to go with. They are both made from Walther blanks and are very hard to beat in terms of price and quality.
http://coolguyguns.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=5
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/riflepts.htm
under those two, there are TacSol and Green Mountain
http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=TS1022&Category_Code=B
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/catalog.aspx?catid=10-22.920sporterdiameterbarrels
All of these are great choices. The stock "T" barrel will give results close to the bottom two on the list.

thank you, that is very helpful.

sublime
11-24-2009, 14:05
Giving this one a little bump to see if anyone has priced one in a shop.

DPris
12-03-2009, 12:46
Did some accuracy work with it at 50 & 100 yards yesterday, I'll be going up the hill with it again shortly to finish up.
It's not a real thousand-yard sniper rifle, but with the right loads it's not too bad.
One suggestion, if you like to shoot off bipods, would be to use a Harris pod with cant & traverse capability along with more height. The pod that comes with the Ruger works within its limitations, but it's fairly limited.

Denis

toshbar
12-03-2009, 14:34
Real Riflemen use slings, not bipods.

sublime
12-03-2009, 15:38
My FFL is still trying to snag one for me without any luck. Maybe Ruger is having some supply chain issues? Just guessing. I can't imagine this rifle being so popular that they can't keep up with demand.

faawrenchbndr
12-03-2009, 15:53
Real Riflemen use slings, not bipods.

You tell that to a crap-load of Snipers and professional Marksmen!
A shooter with a bi-pod will out shoot you and a sling every time.

FLIPPER 348
12-03-2009, 17:50
tactical AND target, wow!!



....how do you sneak up on your target with your shooting bench???

DPris
12-03-2009, 18:15
25 degrees up on the hill, the Ruger finished up Day 2 with three misfeeds in the session.
Sighted one inch high at 50 yards I was popping clay pidgeons at 114 yards off a taller Harris pod and my shooting bench. The one that comes with the gun just doesn't have enough elevation.

Kinda a fun little gun. I might end up keeping it.

Denis

HAMMERHEAD
12-03-2009, 18:22
'Tactical' 10-22? That's funny, I have visions of heavily armed rabbits.

DPris
12-03-2009, 18:31
I can see LE use in shutting off exterior lighting in certain circumstances, but mostly it's a fun little relatively long range (for a .22) plinker & pest control proposition.
Denis

drseth
12-09-2009, 13:09
I was looking on the Ruger website and found two distributor exclusives that look really nice. One has a Tapco T6 collapsible stock, while the other has an ATI Dragonov stock.



http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/1022DE/images/1219.jpg
What about this with the TAPCO stock? Model 1219

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/1022DE/images/1216.jpg

This has a collapsible/folding ATI Dragonov stock. Model 1216

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr22/images/1226.jpg

This is the SR22. Lists for $625, which is too rich for my blood.

http://www.ruger.com/products/1022TargetTactical/images/1230.jpg

This is the 10/22 Target Tactical. I like the bull barrel and bipod, but this lists for $555.00. Still too rich for me. With a young kid who is growing, it might be too big for him to shoot right now. The collapsible barrel for me is a must, and besides, it looks cool.

Which is better? I am new to this, but the collapsible stock is a must because I am buying this for my growing son. The folding stock version can be shot with the stock folded. Like that, all it needs is a bipod and it becomes comparable to the Charger!!!!

I am going to need to order one soon so that I can get it before Christmas. The Tapco version seems to be easier to get, but I like the indentations on the pistol grip of the ATI and the fact that it is foldable. All either of the guns need is a scope, 25 rd magazines, forend grip or bipod, and maybe a flash suppressor, and it would be totally bad ass.

The best price I can get for the TAPCO version is $275 locally. I got a price of $338 for the ATI, but have found better prices on Gunbroker.com. With base 10/22's selling for over $200, under $300 is a deal.

RFPhoto
12-10-2009, 01:07
'Tactical' 10-22? That's funny, I have visions of heavily armed rabbits.

A .22 pill with the right placement will kill humans at 100 yards just as easily as any other shooter carrying a higher caliber weapon.

DPris
12-10-2009, 10:53
Ruger's trying to tap into the "Tactical" craze with the bipod and the label.
Aside from turning off exterior lighting at a distance on barricaded suspect setups, and some possible animal control applications (stretching things, but possible), it has no real tactical function.
It IS, however, a very fun little shooter.
Jeff Quinn & I've been emailing back & forth, we both like the critter.
Out of the 8 loads I tested my sample with, I was glad to see it do its best with humble American Eagle HPs. That's an affordable brand, and it's also the one I buy when I buy .22 ammunition for personal use in rabbit hunting & plinking.

Denis

HAMMERHEAD
12-11-2009, 15:45
Quote:
A .22 pill with the right placement will kill humans at 100 yards just as easily as any other shooter carrying a higher caliber weapon.

Well of course it will. That doesn't mean Law Enforcement would choose a .22lr over a .223 or .308.
Tactical is a sales gimmick.

mserr
12-11-2009, 16:55
It's not a real thousand-yard sniper rifle, but with the right loads it's not too bad.


what? Please tell me you didn't buying a "tactical" 10/22 thinking it was going to be some "sniper" tack driver at 500 yards.

DPris
12-11-2009, 21:54
The comment was more directed at the reality that it is not a tactical gun, and while it's a cut above standard 10/22s it can still be capable of better accuracy if you want to spend more money on a more expensive barrel and trigger.
I was suggesting, apparently too subtly, that it's not a precision long range gun for those potential buyers who may think otherwise from the model designation. My apologies for not putting it more clearly.
The package as it comes, with good glass, is pretty much a half-inch gun at 50 yards with the right ammunition, and fractionally better with match ammunition.

I didn't buy it, and had no expectations going into the two sessions aside from reliability. After those two days on the hill with it, I found it to be what I've said it is, and since I have no use for a super-tuned precision or competition rimfire, but do have some use for what this one can do, I will be buying it, and I'll be enjoying it.

If you want quarter-inch groups at 50 yards, and half-inch groups at 100, you'll need to try another package. Otherwise, this one's quite nice.

Denis

hoosier#17
12-11-2009, 22:22
"Tactical"






I'm beginning to hate this word.:upeyes:

venenoindy
12-13-2009, 02:46
while I like the concept of the rifle I hate the name, same applys to other brands that have abuse the term tactical.

shotgunred
12-13-2009, 13:58
Real Riflemen use slings, not bipods.

Snipers use bipods and none of them use a 22.:tongueout:

Charon
04-17-2010, 00:25
How loud is this gun? I had a gun dealer tell me that this model had a built in supressor, and that "the only sound you will hear is the pop of the bullet on the target."

I want a quiet .22; any suggestions?

DPris
04-17-2010, 00:43
Your dealer is muchly mistaken.
No suppressor, normal sound levels.

As for a quiet .22, do some Googling for suppressed rimfires & see what you come up with. All will require federal paperwork.

Denis

TECH51
04-17-2010, 00:50
All I know is my 10yr LOVES his 10/22 VLEH.. But then again he LOVES his AR-7, P22 and he does not know it yet but I think he will like his BM ORC...

powernoodle
04-18-2010, 14:06
'Tactical' 10-22? That's funny, I have visions of heavily armed rabbits.

Take a look here (http://www.ruger1022.com/docs/israeli_sniper.htm) if you think the 10/22 is just a toy.

gunsmoke92
04-18-2010, 20:59
Here you go, base 10/22 with Tasco Pronghorn, $160, Houge stock $70, Harris bi-pod $99, Tactical Solutions mag release $35, removed the rear sight, had the factory barrel cut behind front sight , cut a target crown, cut and filled the rear dovetail $73, $437 total. 50 yard groups you can cover with a dime, priceless.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/gunsmoke92/032.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/gunsmoke92/028.jpg

Do some polish work on the trigger and go knock ground squirrels for a loop.

HAMMERHEAD
04-21-2010, 14:33
Take a look here (http://www.ruger1022.com/docs/israeli_sniper.htm) if you think the 10/22 is just a toy.
Did I say it was a toy? No.
Can it be an instant stopper in a hostage situation? No.
Can it penetrate plate or auto glass and still be an effective stopper? No.
Can it reach out to 200 or 300 yards with authority? No.
Tactical? No.
Can it kill? Yes.
'Tactical' is a sales gimmick.

Turbodreams
04-22-2010, 12:35
I've been looking for a .22 for plinking and later down the road for my son to learn on. I was planning on buying a stock 10/22 and modding it as time goes on - piece by piece. I'm sure most of you 10/22 owners can relate.

I saw the new 10/22 target tactical on Ruger's page and it got my interest.

Has anyone held one of these? I know it's new but I assume they are out there somewhere already.

Would it be beneficial to purchase this rifle at $500 or so and just be done with it?

Just looked at that.

I have almost the exact setup just with a better barrel. Youre better off buying a cheaper model and doing the upgrades yourself. Its more fun and satisfying that way and you can probably do it cheaper.

I bought a completely stock 10/22rpf with the synthetic stock. Added these parts:

Tactical Solutions 16.5" threaded bull barrel from www.gunkings.com for $215 shipped

Hogue OM Bull Barrel Stock for $72 shipped also from gunkings.

From walmart I bought- mount creek bipod $40, remington sling $7, uncle mikes sling swivels $9.

Also off of ebay I bought Auto bolt release $8, set of 3 poly buffers $13, hex head take down screws(2) $9

3-9x32 simmons scope at dicks sporting goods for $40 and a set of rings from cdnn for $5. And 2 25rd butler creek and 1 30rd eagle mag from cdnn $60. And even a nice case from cdnn for $25.

Total invested:
Gun $230
Parts $503
Total $733 and worth every penny.

Another $60 for a drop in hammer/sear and Ill be all set.

:supergrin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/turbodreamsgsx/100_1386.jpg?t=1271961262
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/turbodreamsgsx/100_1465.jpg?t=1271961267

kuzican
01-24-2011, 17:51
i got the target tactical after researching it, including this forum. i would like to say it is a very nice rifle. the hogue stock is very nice, and barrel that comes with the rifle is very accurate. i have a red dot scope on it, but before i got that i used an old scope from my dad's old gun. it easily shot 50 yards accurately. the bipod that comes with it may be no named, but it is just as sturdy and strong as the bigger harris bipod i have. this gun is worth the money if you just want to buy a gun and not modify it too much to get it what you want it to do. i got it at cabelas for $519.00

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p465/blindguy22/downsized_1211001157a.jpg

i put the UTG quad rail on it without the bottom, and i got some camo form. its a very nice rifle for the money.

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p465/blindguy22/downsized_0115011920.jpg

mac66
01-26-2011, 09:27
Buy a basic (used if possible) 10/22. Spend all the money for "tactical" crap on ammo and magazines and then shoot the heck out of it. Most stock 10/22s will out shoot their owners. If you must go "tactical", paint the stock black.

DPris
01-26-2011, 12:01
In my case, I couldn't care less about "tactical" on this model, it pretty much isn't anyway.
I bought it because of what it does with a decent scope for me.
It's just a target version with heavy barrel & non-slip black stock, but it outshoots my other two "normal" 10/22s substantially.

The other two are relatively lightweight plinkers that can be toted on the ground through the sagebrush looking for rabbits or whatever, this one is more of a precision device at longer distances.

Tactical schmactical, it's just a good shootin' package for a different type of use than the standard models for me. :)
Denis

toshbar
01-26-2011, 12:18
does it have the 20 lb trigger still?