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Dalton Wayne
11-21-2009, 17:03
I was wondering about the accuracy of a Mosin Nagant 91/59 compared to a regular rifle 91/30 can someone who has shot both pass on a little wisdom please. :cool:
Regards
DW

deadday
11-21-2009, 19:49
Minute of Nazi out to about 600 yards....

Rick O'Shay
11-26-2009, 09:22
A great deal depends on barrel floating, tension of the assembly bolts, bore condition and size, bullet weight, etc.

My personal experience is this: Give me a 91/59 ANY day! I've had three or four 91/30's, and none of them have been accurate. I'm sure a more knowledgable shooter could tweak the best out of each rifle, but shooting standard weight boat tail ammo, I didn't shoot them well at all. On the other hand, my 91/59 cut the X-ring on the first round I ever fired out of it. It was fresh from arsenal, full of cosmo, from when it was converted to 91/59, so it looked brand new. I was startled by its accuracy and precision. I have several Finns, but the 91/59 is my all-time favorite.
PS--The carbine size is much easier to handle, and the long barrel (I'm told) develops a "whip" action upon repeat firing, and is affected by the wooden stocks when this happens. The shorter carbine has a stiffer (due to shorter) barrel, that does not experience that phenomenon.

M1Garand
11-26-2009, 16:14
91/59 was designed to be a accurate sniper rifle, but the actual performance depends on the condition of the rifle, especially the condition of the barrel.

Dalton Wayne
11-26-2009, 16:25
91/59 was designed to be a accurate sniper rifle.
Never seen that in any of my research, are you sure?
I've never seen nor heard of a scoped version of the 91/59. :cool:
Regards
DW

kf4zra
11-26-2009, 19:06
91/59 was designed to be a accurate sniper rifle, but the actual performance depends on the condition of the rifle, especially the condition of the barrel.

I dont know that i believe that. They were made from left over m91's and 91/30's

I have over 20 mosins, and I cant say that the 91/59 is any more accurate than any other carbine i own. It certainly wont outshoot my m39, m27, m28, or m91 finns. 91/30's from the war production years can be hit or miss, but they arent all bad, my 91/30 sniper looks rough, but shoots great.

as far as cutdown rifles go, i would rate it average. when i put it side by side next to my czech 91/38, it is immediate to see that the czechs took a lot more pride in the conversion from rifle to carbine than the russians.

45reloader
12-17-2009, 16:15
Luck of the draw
I have 6 to prove it.
I may accurize one someday.

45reloader
12-19-2009, 19:31
UPDATE
I am going to try this
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu63.htm

YpsiBob
01-04-2010, 23:58
they are the same gun with different barrel lenghts, assuming they both had good rifling seems like the 91/30 should do better because of the added lenght, but you never know untill you try it! so go get a 91/30 and have a shoot off!

91/59 was designed to be a accurate sniper rifle, but the actual performance depends on the condition of the rifle, especially the condition of the barrel.

the 91/59s were made from pre-exsisting 91/30s that had the barrel and stock cut down to create a carbine.