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DannyR
11-24-2009, 12:51
Please post your favorite recipes here. I'll start with:

200-gr FMJ Montana Gold
4.1-gr Titegroup
1.07 OAL
Federal Primers

Nice soft and accurate load for competition.

Fire_Medic
11-24-2009, 16:25
<o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"></o:smarttagtype><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Print</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:HyphenationZone>46</w:HyphenationZone> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:NoTabHangIndent/> <w:SubFontBySize/> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]>******** classid="clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D" id=ieooui></object> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} table.MsoTableGrid {mso-style-name:"Table Grid"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; border:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-border-insideh:.5pt solid windowtext; mso-border-insidev:.5pt solid windowtext; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> As I'm new to the GAP my post will just include the information I have from the Lyman manual on hand. I do not have favorite loads yet, but will post when I do.<o:p></o:p> My Sierra Manual has no 45 GAP reloading info at all.
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The following is from the Lyman 49th Edition Reloading Handbook on the 45 GAP:<o:p></o:p>
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The 45 GAP was introduced in 2003 as a result of the combined efforts of Glock and Speer. This new compact 45- caliber cartridge was designed to compete with the 40 S&W and the 45 ACP. The overall length of the 45 GAP allows it to fit 9mm/40SW frame sizes and provide power equal to the 45 ACP. While it can fit into a 9mm/40SW frame it functions at a lower chamber pressure than either the 9mm or 40SW (23,000 psi VS 35,000 psi). The cartridge is similar to a shortened 45 ACP case, but there are more important differences. The GAP case uses a small primer as opposed the large primer used in the 45 ACP case. The rim on the GAP is also slightly rebated and the internal construction of the case differs. Glock introduced the model 37 for the 45 GAP. The 37 has a smaller grip than their model 21 (chambered for the 45 ACP) and provides a more comfortable fit due to its thinner, narrower dimensions and short trigger reach.<o:p></o:p>
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Do not attempt to convert 45 ACP cases to 45 GAP. This would not be safe for a number of reasons. As stated above the cartridges use different size primers, different rim diameters, and have different internal constructions. Most 45 ACP die sets can be used however to reload 45 GAP. Several Powders showed very good uniformity during our testing. In particular Ramshot True Blue powder gave excellent results throughout.<o:p></o:p>
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Test Components:<o:p></o:p>
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Cases: <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Winchester</st1:place></st1:city><o:p></o:p>
Trim-to-length: 755"<o:p></o:p>
Primers: <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Winchester</st1:place></st1:city> WSP<o:p></o:p>
Primer Size: Small Pistol<o:p></o:p>
Lyman Shell Holder: No 2<o:p></o:p>
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Jacketed Bullets Used <o:p></o:p>
Hornady JHP # 45100, 185 gr<o:p></o:p>
Speer JHP #4478, 200 gr<o:p></o:p>
Speer TMJ #4480, 230 gr<o:p></o:p>
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Cast Bullets Used<o:p></o:p>
#452460, 200 gr<o:p></o:p> (Lyman)
#452630, 200 gr (Lyman)<o:p></o:p>
#452374, 225 gr (Lyman)<o:p></o:p>

*The information in bold in the following charts is what Lyman's had the best results with.<o:p>
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Fire_Medic
11-24-2009, 21:10
185 gr JHP<o:p></o:p>
1.060" OAL<o:p></o:p>
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FPS<o:p></o:p>

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</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1002<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Blue Dot<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 8.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 896<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,800<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 9.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1020<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,600<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <o:p> </o:p>
<o:p></o:p>

Fire_Medic
11-24-2009, 21:11
200 gr JHP<o:p></o:p>
1.080" OAL<o:p></o:p>
<table class="MsoTableGrid" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr style=""> <td style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Powder<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Suggested Starting Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Maximum Load Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Clays<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 3.4<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 745<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 3.8<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 812<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> TiteGroup<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 833<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,500<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 920<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,500<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 231<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.6<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 790<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 17,400<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 873<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 20,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Universal<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.9<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 749<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 15,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 906<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 20,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> N340<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.3<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 753<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 15,400<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 907<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 20,900<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> WSF<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.9<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 844<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.6<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 959<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Power Pistol<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 827<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,500<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.8<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 961<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,800<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Longshot<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 810<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 15,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 7.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 951<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> True Blue<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 869<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,300<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 7.3<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 953<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,400<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Blue Dot<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 7.9<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 858<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 8.8<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 969<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,300<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Fire_Medic
11-24-2009, 21:12
230 gr TMJ<o:p></o:p>
1.135" OAL<o:p>
</o:p>
<table class="MsoTableGrid" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr style=""> <td style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Powder<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Suggested Starting Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Maximum Load Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Universal<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.4<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 728<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 17,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 860<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> N340<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 748<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 16,900<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.6<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 876<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,400<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> WSF<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 772<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 17,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.9<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 890<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Power Pistol<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 813<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,600<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.4<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 905<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,900<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Longshot<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.6<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 814<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 17,800<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.3<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 885<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 20,300<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> True Blue<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.8<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 782<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 780<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Blue Dot<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 7.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 771<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 17,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 8.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 896<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Fire_Medic
11-24-2009, 21:12
#452460<o:p></o:p>
200 gr (#2 Alloy) 1.030" OAL<o:p>
</o:p>
<table class="MsoTableGrid" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr style=""> <td style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Powder<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Suggested Starting Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Maximum Load Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Clays<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 3.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 908<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 966<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,400<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> TiteGroup<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 929<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 20,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1004<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,300<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 231<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 927<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 20,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.3<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1010<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Universal<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.6<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 917<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,500<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1040<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> N340<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.1<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 898<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,500<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 986<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 20,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> WSF<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.4<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 901<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,800<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.1<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1032<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,500<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Power Pistol<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.1<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 931<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.9<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1024<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,500<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> True Blue<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.4<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 934<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,900<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 7.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1042<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Blue Dot<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 7.6<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 947<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 8.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1078<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Fire_Medic
11-24-2009, 21:13
#452630<o:p></o:p>
200 gr (#2 Alloy) 1.080" OAL<o:p>
</o:p>
<table class="MsoTableGrid" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr style=""> <td style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Powder<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Suggested Starting Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Maximum Load Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Clays<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 3.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 890<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 20,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 967<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> TiteGroup<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 929<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1005<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,300<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 231<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 918<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,500<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.3<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1001<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Universal<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 856<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 17,600<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.1<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 980<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> N340<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 868<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 17,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.8<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1007<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> WSF<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.3<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 903<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1010<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Power Pistol<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.1<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 905<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,900<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.9<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1022<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,400<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> True Blue<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 949<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 7.3<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1044<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,400<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Blue Dot<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 7.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 942<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,600<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 8.4<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 1035<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,800<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Fire_Medic
11-24-2009, 21:14
#452374
225 gr (#2 Alloy) 1.135" OAL<o:p>
</o:p>
<table class="MsoTableGrid" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr style=""> <td style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Powder<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Suggested Starting Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Maximum Load Grains<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Velocity<o:p></o:p>

FPS<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Pressure<o:p></o:p>

PSI<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> TiteGroup<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 876<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.5<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 951<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 231<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.4<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 827<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,600<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 918<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Universal<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 822<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 17,600<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 927<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> N340<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 4.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 821<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.3<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 928<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,800<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> WSF<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.2<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 831<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,700<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.8<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 922<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,200<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Power Pistol<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 860<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 18,900<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.4<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 941<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,000<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Longshot<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 5.7<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 845<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 17,800<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.4<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 953<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 21,600<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> True Blue<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.1<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 876<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 6.8<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 968<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,100<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> Blue Dot<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 7.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 885<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 19,300<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 8.0<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.9pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 972<o:p></o:p>

</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 68.95pt;" width="92" valign="top"> 22,600<o:p></o:p>

</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <o:p>
</o:p>
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</o:p>

bigrong37
12-11-2009, 17:48
hey guys, just put an order through at natchez shooters supply for 3k small pistol primers. just wanted to give you guys a heads up! stock up!

Firecop203
01-17-2010, 15:35
Does anyone have any load sources for .45 GAP with 230 grain FMJ or 230 grain lead?

gary newport
01-25-2010, 17:14
I've used loads similar to Danny's (with 4.3 and 4.5 grains of Titegroup and everything else the same) to achieve my two best scores in GSSF Civilian.

Currently, I'm experimenting with W231 in .45 GAP and plan to follow that up with Bullseye. If anything looks good, I'll post it.

gary newport
01-25-2010, 17:16
Does anyone have any load sources for .45 GAP with 230 grain FMJ or 230 grain lead?

The Lyman Pistol and Revolver Handbook (3rd Edition) has GAP data for 230-grain FMJ.

captyg76
02-08-2010, 12:03
Firecop,

I only shoot 230gr bullets in my G-38. My reloading recipe is 5.0 gr of Unique with that bullet weight. I can shoot it all day with that load.

Firecop203
02-08-2010, 20:33
Firecop,

I only shoot 230gr bullets in my G-38. My reloading recipe is 5.0 gr of Unique with that bullet weight. I can shoot it all day with that load.


Lead or Jacketed?

xjon
02-10-2010, 17:08
I'm shooting with rainier 185gr flat nose with universal 5.8gr. Out of 100 rds I will have 1-2 failure to eject. But groups well and shoots well otherwise. However I noticed today that my brass gets ejected somewhat lethargic hitting me occasionally on the forehead. One got stuck on my nose and glasses. Thinking of increasing load to 5.9-6.0gr.

I started with 5.5, 5.8, and 6.1gr loads. I settled with 5.8 because of performance. Although the 6.1 grouped fine I was shooting to the right. The 5.5 had feeding ejecting issues and grouped horrible down the range.

This is with a g37 and using digital scale using a Lyman turret press. I tried the Lyman powder measure but had a .3 gr variance. Had ejecting issues with that too.

Please advise, this is my first handgun loads. Thanks

dbarry
02-27-2010, 15:25
185 gr FMJ & 5gr Bullseye

Tang419
03-02-2010, 12:43
Anybody use Unique or Red Dot ?

jeffreybehr
03-05-2010, 12:08
I came up with a very nice PD load for my 38--185 Gold Dot, any once-fired case I have, F100 primer, and 6.2g. of Universal*. It's 100% reliable, hits c. 1030FPS (at 10 first-screen feet) and the GD performs beautifully.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/245s_1000w.jpg


* I use Universal in all my 40- and 45-caliber PD loads, as it has no muzzle flash. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_190_31/ai_n27380935/

Tang419
03-05-2010, 12:15
I came up with a very nice PD load for my 38--185 Gold Dot, any once-fired case I have, F100 primer, and 6.2g. of Universal*. It's 100% reliable, hits c. 1030FPS (at 10 first-screen feet) and the GD performs beautifully.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/245s_1000w.jpg


* I use Universal in all my 40- and 45-caliber PD loads, as it has no muzzle flash. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_190_31/ai_n27380935/


Gold Dots, are great performers. I tested several bullets a few years, and the Gold Dot performed the same from a G27 as it did a G22. I cant say the same for a couple others.

Here is the pic of my results. 2 of these fired from the G22, and two from a 27.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/Tang419/40sw_gold_dots.jpg

jeffreybehr
03-05-2010, 17:53
Gold Dots, are great performers. I tested several bullets a few years, and the Gold Dot performed the same from a G27 as it did a G22. I cant say the same for a couple others.

Yup. I tested a bunch of 40-cal. bullets and 2, Golden Saber 165s and Nosler 135s, failed miserably by coming apart.

EVERY pic I've seen from EVERY test of Gold Dots contains the same great result--a large, consistent mushroom, no breaking apart, and high weight retention. When I posted my 40-cal. results, I indicated that if I were starting from zero with bullets, I'd choose the new Winchester PDX1 IF it were available to reloaders, and then the Gold Dot. Hornady's new FTX bullet may well be an excellent performer, but it's going to have to be VERY good to beat the GD.

BTW just returned from the range where I shot, among lots more, a group of these PD loads in the new 37. It too* was 100% reliable and produced a very nice (small) group. Most of today's reloads were brand-new-to-the-37 target loads using the 200g. Rainier RN.

* The new 37 is shooting 100% reliably ANY load I assemble for it, except lead-bullet ones, which the 38, too, simply won't feed correctly.

Tang419
03-05-2010, 20:18
I didnt think bare lead was suppose to be used in Glocks ?

jeffreybehr
03-15-2010, 22:53
After shooting a 4th batch just to be sure, all of which functioned 100% perfectly, I can now say that I've come up with a target load I'm very happy with.

Any one-fired case, Fed. 100 primer, 5.6g. Winchester SuperField, and Rainier 200g. copper-plated round-nose bullet @ OAL of 1.08". Velocity at 10' is 815FPS from my 37, and pressure is very low. (Lyman's manual starts at 5.9g. for 844FPS at 18100PSI.) With my 37, accuracy is as high as any load I've shot, and recoil is low; this is VERY comfortable to shoot bunches of.

BTW I tried a low-power load with this bullet and LongShot; it proved to be a little slow burning--I could actually feel the action working.

BTW2, I tried and am using these powders because I already had a bunch. If I live long enough to run out of WSF, I'll switch to Universal which I already use in my PD loads with 185 Gold Dots.

Thx-1138
03-16-2010, 09:24
I didnt think bare lead was suppose to be used in Glocks ?

You, sir, are correct.

(And pardon in advance if the explanation below doesn't apply to you. There are many people who only browse GlockTalk, so I like to explain things as fully as possible for those who are looking for answers, but aren't ready to ask questions).

Lead-only bullets in Glocks are a problem because the lead leaves deposits in the polygonal barrel grooves. Eventually, the build-up gets bad enough that you create dangerously high pressures (as there is less and less room for your bullet to travel down the barrel). This can lead to unfortunate and dangerous consequences such as your barrel exploding. Since this normally happens when you're holding your Glock in your hand, it is considered a Bad Thing&trade;.

You can get around this by purchasing an aftermarket barrel with different rifling grooves that don't get fouled with lead. Lone Wolf now sells them for GAP Glocks.

If you're referring to the pics in this thread, those are jacketed bullets. Most bullets have a lead core, surrounded by copper on the outside. For "Full Metal Jacket" (FMJ) bullets, the "Jacket" part is the copper outside. For hollow-points (HP) , you have a partial jacket with an opening in the front to aid in expansion. The pics above show hollow-point bullets after expansion, revealing the lead inner core.

FMJ and HP bullets with lead cores with aren't a problem because the jacket is between the lead and the rifling of the barrel, so you don't have a lead buildup.

S9Man
06-27-2010, 07:49
Anybody use Unique or Red Dot ?

Pistols and Revolvers
45 G.A.P
185 gr Speer GDHP
Unique
CCI 500

Minimum OAL(inches) Bbl Length Primer Powder Charge Weight
grains) Velocity
(fps)
1.07 4.5 CCI 500 Unique 7.7 1,009

I used the above data only used Montana gold bullet 185gr JHP and a reduced amount of Unique (7.2 gr). It was my first try at loading the GAP and I used Unique because I have a lot of it around. It shot nice and soft and was accurate as anything else I've shot out of a Glock. I shot it out of a G37 (first time shooting the gun). I also have a S&W model 625 in 45ACP that I plan on trying some 45GAP in. I read some where about another shooter using it in his S&W 45ACP revelover.

fasteddie565
09-17-2010, 09:14
Do you guys use 45 ACP dies adjusted down or do you use 45 GAP dies? Which ones?

Thx-1138
09-17-2010, 11:43
Do you guys use 45 ACP dies adjusted down or do you use 45 GAP dies? Which ones?

I don't reload, but IIRC, everybody uses .45ACP dies and adjusts them down. I figure, if you reload a lot, and reload both calibers, you might want to get two sets of .45 dies and have one pre-adjusted to the OAL specs for GAP. Or something.

gary newport
09-17-2010, 15:03
I have two sets of Dillon .45 ACP dies, one adjusted for .45 GAP. In fact, Dillon now calls them .45 ACP/GAP dies.

Wraith
11-16-2010, 20:29
Anybody reloading GAP to match gold dot or magtech in 185gr?

dmb12984
01-18-2011, 17:26
Anyone have a favorite plinking round recipe they would like to share. I am going to start reloading for my G38 and would like some good plinking options. Thanks for the help.

dbarry
01-18-2011, 19:23
4.7gr bullseye behind a 200gr berry's bullet has become a favorite of mine

dbarry
01-18-2011, 20:17
I also use 4.7gr bullseye behind a 230gr berry's bullet. This is NOT a published load, but works great in MY G37.

michael e
04-02-2011, 09:14
I bought a actually set of 45gap dies. Did the same with 10mm instead of just adjusting. I have a Lee Pro 1000 so its alot fast for me to just switch out the turret and be on way. No adjusting and checking. For the extra 40 bucks for setup its worth me saving the time in long run.

downfall
09-05-2011, 09:20
any problems with bulging cases when using the glock barrel?

gary newport
09-05-2011, 11:33
any problems with bulging cases when using the glock barrel?

Nope! :cool:

right stuff
09-06-2011, 20:38
Anyone tried loading some of these babies?

http://www.hornady.com/store/45-Cal-.451-230-GR-HAP/

The local Fisherman's Marine was having a sweet sale on these. I liked the 125 grain version that I fed my G34 so much that I sprung for some for the 37. I didn't want it to feel left out.

No GAP data whatsoever in the Hornady manual. I know there have been 230 gr HPs commercially available, but all of the 230 gr recipes that I have been able to find seem to be for round or flat nose-type bullets, so I'm unsure of what the overall case length should be for this round. I'm also hoping to use my supply of Unique powder for this purpose.

Any ideas on where I might find a starting point for this load?

Don At PC
10-30-2011, 09:46
I like the following load of .45 GAP for shooting GSSF Heavy Metal Category.

185gr FP Xtreme Plated Bullet
4.35gr Titegroup
Fed Small Pistol Primers
1.065 OAL

200gr FP Xtreme Plated Bullets
4.2gr Titegroup
Fed Small Pistol Primers
1.068 OAL

Both loads shoot great through a G37/38. Soft and accurate.

Don

Outer Rondacker
01-27-2012, 10:02
Does anyone know what is wrong with the load data on the first page here. I looked at it about three weeks ago and it was a great help. Now its all sorts of funny numbers and letters and I cant understand a thing. I have tried to look at it on another computer to see if perhaps I had a bug but I do not and I think it is the page that is screwy. Is there anyway to fix this as I could really use that load info on MG 185 JHP for the gap load. There is not much out there. Looking for a good clean powder that I wont get my head chopped off for using on the reloading page here. Like I am getting for wanted to use Titegroup. Only wanted to use this because there is data for it. My dies I bought said use Universal, Longshot, HS6, Titegroup, Clays. What would you guys run? I am not looking for a super hot load but one that has some wop and is kinda close to factory. I just bought a powder cop and should be getting it today just for this round since I have the spot for it in my press.

gary newport
01-27-2012, 22:40
Does anyone know what is wrong with the load data on the first page here. I looked at it about three weeks ago and it was a great help. Now its all sorts of funny numbers and letters and I cant understand a thing. I have tried to look at it on another computer to see if perhaps I had a bug but I do not and I think it is the page that is screwy. Is there anyway to fix this as I could really use that load info on MG 185 JHP for the gap load. There is not much out there. Looking for a good clean powder that I wont get my head chopped off for using on the reloading page here. Like I am getting for wanted to use Titegroup. Only wanted to use this because there is data for it. My dies I bought said use Universal, Longshot, HS6, Titegroup, Clays. What would you guys run? I am not looking for a super hot load but one that has some wop and is kinda close to factory. I just bought a powder cop and should be getting it today just for this round since I have the spot for it in my press.

Fire Medic's posts certainly do seem to be hosed! I have no idea why. You might try sending him a PM to ask about the data you are interested in.

Sheepdog689
03-30-2012, 18:56
Just finished reading my new Lee reloading book. Years ago when I reloaded I only did .38, .357 and 9mm. Never trimmed any cases, just kept reloading and shooting. Is case trimming something I need to worry about with the GAP or do they pretty much stay within spec?

gary newport
03-30-2012, 21:51
Just finished reading my new Lee reloading book. Years ago when I reloaded I only did .38, .357 and 9mm. Never trimmed any cases, just kept reloading and shooting. Is case trimming something I need to worry about with the GAP or do they pretty much stay within spec?

Don't bother with trimming straight-walled pistol cases. Relax, reload, shoot and have fun! :cool:

xrmattaz
03-31-2012, 05:10
Don't bother with trimming straight-walled pistol cases. Relax, reload, shoot and have fun! :cool:

Agreed.

Unless you are looking for the ultimate "shoot the wings off a gnat at 25 yards" accuracy. I've not trimmed a straight walled pistol case, yet, in 35 years reloading.

Sheepdog689
03-31-2012, 16:42
Thanks for the input....one less thing to worry about.

Sheepdog689
04-02-2012, 19:29
If anyone is looking for once fired brass, leobrass.com has 45gap at $6.00 for 100 rounds.

buoux
04-09-2012, 16:48
If anyone is looking for once fired brass, leobrass.com has 45gap at $6.00 for 100 rounds.

Thanks for the info - 500 pieces were retrieved from my mailbox today! All is good!

:yourock:

ca survivor
04-09-2012, 18:48
why reload? there is plenty of factory ammo at reasonable prices.

DannyR
04-24-2012, 22:01
I reload to produce light, accurate rounds for competition--far more accurate and softer shooting than any factory ammo available. I'm not saving any money reloading, but it sure is a pleasure to shoot my product.

There is no shortage of factory 9mm ammo either, but I reload about 1,000 rounds of 9mm per month for the very same reason.

dsb1829
05-15-2012, 20:11
Here is a link (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BybGfSTVljClZV9xdGl0SUNfaVU) to firemedic's table info. I copied and pasted it over to an html file that you can view with your browser. Use the "file" button at top to download the html file and you will be able to view the tables.

Sheepdog689
05-16-2012, 18:00
Reloading Berry's Bullets 185 gr round nose hollow base in front of 7 grains of Unique.

Works great for an all around training/plinking round.

xrmattaz
05-16-2012, 18:38
Reloading Berry's Bullets 185 gr round nose hollow base in front of 7 grains of Unique.

Works great for an all around training/plinking round.

That's the boolit I plan to try next, behind some 231.

dudel
05-17-2012, 16:59
I reload to produce light, accurate rounds for competition--far more accurate and softer shooting than any factory ammo available. I'm not saving any money reloading, but it sure is a pleasure to shoot my product.

There is no shortage of factory 9mm ammo either, but I reload about 1,000 rounds of 9mm per month for the very same reason.


Amen! Came into a surprise load last weekend. 4.0 gr of bullseye under a Rainier 200gr plated hollow point.

I had the powder dump I generally reserve for 9mm on the 550b. (4 gr bullseye). Ran several through before I realized. The error. Before pulling the rounds, I thought I'd take them out back and pull them with the g37. I went slow in case I left one in the pipe. All 10 cycled properly, ejected cleanly and shot quite well at 50ft.

Best of all, it was a very soft round. I loaded up the other 90. I need to run them over the chrono. Might be a good round to introduce new shooters.

Sheepdog689
05-31-2012, 19:37
What other powder options work good for the GAP? I'm using Unique, I've seen a post here for Titegroup, another for Bullseye and one for 231. Has anyone tried Power Pistol?

Unique works, but I'm loading 185 gr Berry's plated HBRN bullets in front of 6.8g of Unique. The powder pretty much fills the case but using my Lee Pro Auto disk powder measure I get slight fluctuations in the amount of powder (like a 10th of a grain). Some people using the Lee Pro Auto claim that Unique doesn't drop consistently, that's why I'm thinking about trying another powder.

Thanks

DannyR
06-01-2012, 07:25
6.0-gr of Power Pistol will give you a real light, soft load and 8.2-gr will give you a hot load. I would prefer 5.0 to 6.1-gr of Vihtavuori N320.

Most accurate might be 5.9-gr of Titegroup.

Sheepdog689
06-01-2012, 19:21
Thanks Danny, I'll give Power Pistol and Titegroup a try. I've never heard of Vihtavuori powder before. Who makes it?

dudel
06-02-2012, 11:53
Thanks Danny, I'll give Power Pistol and Titegroup a try. I've never heard of Vihtavuori powder before. Who makes it?

Vihtavuori makes Vihtavuori (IIRC it's reallyVihtavuori Oy).

Opps. Changed to Vihtavouri - Lapua.

http://www.vihtavuori-lapua.com/products-chart/

Bullseye and Power Pistol work great in my loads. I prefer Bullseye.

fasteddie565
06-03-2012, 06:30
I bought a actually set of 45gap dies. Did the same with 10mm instead of just adjusting. I have a Lee Pro 1000 so its alot fast for me to just switch out the turret and be on way. No adjusting and checking. For the extra 40 bucks for setup its worth me saving the time in long run.

Michael,

This is my plan as well, I have two new Pro 1000's (replaced the ones that were 20 years old.)

Which shell plate do you use for the GAP? Same as the ACP I assume? I also bought a set of Lee carbide 45GAP dies, FWIW.

DannyR
06-03-2012, 06:45
Vihtavuori is made in Finland and is the cleanest burning powder I've ever used. It is also the most expensive--about twice the price as Titegroup.

fasteddie565
06-03-2012, 06:59
Here is a link (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BybGfSTVljClZV9xdGl0SUNfaVU) to firemedic's table info. I copied and pasted it over to an html file that you can view with your browser. Use the "file" button at top to download the html file and you will be able to view the tables.


DSB,

That was the trick, I made it a .pdf (See attached)

I just bought some Universal and some unique. I will play with those and then perhaps try some Clays, as I can also use that for 45 ACP.

fasteddie565
06-03-2012, 07:15
why reload? there is plenty of factory ammo at reasonable prices.

You don't save any money reloading, you just shoot more. Here is some of the quick math I was telling my wife about....

I pay roughly $20 a box for bulk 45 GAP Ammo. That equals about $.40 a round. (Also pretty cheap for factory ammo, you may want to use btx $.42 and $.48 for a price)


Reloading costs the following (Approximation) per round

Brass - $.07 (Assuming you have no once fired brass)
Bullet - $.15 (The most expensive and varied component)
Primer - $.03 (Assuming an approximate price of $30 per k
Powder - $.03 (Using $22 / lb with 1k, 7 grn loads per lb)

TOTAL - $.28 cents a round. If you save your brass / get free brass, which I assume many of us do, your price is half, maybe less than half depending upon the type of bullets you buy.

You get to shoot twice as much!

dudel
06-03-2012, 07:53
TOTAL - $.28 cents a round. If you save your brass / get free brass, which I assume many of us do, your price is half, maybe less than half depending upon the type of bullets you buy.

You get to shoot twice as much!

That and you're not at the mercy of the store. You can load a wide variety of ammo from soft target rounds to full house hollow points. Further, in a SHTF scenario, I WILL have ammo.

For me, I also enjoy the process.

CookeMonster
06-27-2012, 10:28
Just getting into reloading. Pricing out the press, powder measure and all the rest. I have spent a good 20+ hours reading any info I could on reloading, and have read the Speer reloading manual. I have a couple questions.

1. What powders seem to drop the most accurately out of the Lee Pro Auto Disk, and which ones have been too erratic out of your measures to trust?

2. I own a G39. Should I be shopping for a faster, medium or slower burning powder with my stubby barrel? I plan to load a Berry's or Ranier plated bullets if that makes any difference. I'll carry HSTs, but for plinking I figure the plated 185g cheapies will work fine.

Thank you strangers, for your help, advice and knowledge.
I couldn't find anything about either question except that Unique doesn't drop as well as others from the Pro Auto Disk. Most every chrono and handload listing seems to be from the 37 or 38, and being new to this game, I'm going about this very carefully and want to read and understand everything I can on it before actually pouring charges.

dudel
06-27-2012, 15:46
1. What powders seem to drop the most accurately out of the Lee Pro Auto Disk, and which ones have been too erratic out of your measures to trust?

2. I own a G39. Should I be shopping for a faster, medium or slower burning powder with my stubby barrel? I plan to load a Berry's or Ranier plated bullets if that makes any difference. I'll carry HSTs, but for plinking I figure the plated 185g cheapies will work fine.

Thank you strangers, for your help, advice and knowledge.
I couldn't find anything about either question except that Unique doesn't drop as well as others from the Pro Auto Disk. Most every chrono and handload listing seems to be from the 37 or 38, and being new to this game, I'm going about this very carefully and want to read and understand everything I can on it before actually pouring charges.

Welcome to GAP and reloading. I load GAP for my g37, g38, and as of today, my g39. Can't talk to point 1; but bullseye and power pistol work well for me with 200 gr Rainiers plated hollow and flat points. I'm not planning on changing the load right now till I put some rounds over the chrono.

scratchy wilson
06-27-2012, 22:40
Just bought the 49th Lyman Handbook and it recommends Ramshot's True Blue as giving excellent all around results. Anyone try it?

Beanie-Bean
06-28-2012, 08:23
Just bought the 49th Lyman Handbook and it recommends Ramshot's True Blue as giving excellent all around results. Anyone try it?

Haven't tried that one yet, but I have great results (and big fireballs) from Blue Dot and Power Pistol. I have some Unique loads ready to send over the chrony, and hope that those go well.

AA#5 is up next on my list. I've got to test with all the calibers I load (9X19, .357SIG, .40S&W, 10mm, .45ACP, .45GAP)

The only load data I found with that particular powder was from Accurate's site, and they specified a 200 gr. XTP.

fasteddie565
07-06-2012, 05:48
OK, I finally got my other Pro 1000 set up to load 45 GAP. I am loading 5.6 grains of Universal behind a Rainier 200grn jacketed flat point bullet with WIN SP primer. This should prove to be a fairly stout practice load.

Range report to follow later today.

wlst101
07-24-2012, 20:21
Just bought the 49th Lyman Handbook and it recommends Ramshot's True Blue as giving excellent all around results. Anyone try it?

I use it exclusively. 200gn Montana Gold's with 7.3gns at 1.060 OAL. I was trying to replicate the feel of the 200gn GoldDots for practice and it's close. I've loaded it as high as 7.5 gns with no pressure issues but like to be safe at 7.3.

ironmonkey17
07-28-2012, 15:00
Just getting into reloading. Pricing out the press, powder measure and all the rest. I have spent a good 20+ hours reading any info I could on reloading, and have read the Speer reloading manual. I have a couple questions.

1. What powders seem to drop the most accurately out of the Lee Pro Auto Disk, and which ones have been too erratic out of your measures to trust?

2. I own a G39. Should I be shopping for a faster, medium or slower burning powder with my stubby barrel? I plan to load a Berry's or Ranier plated bullets if that makes any difference. I'll carry HSTs, but for plinking I figure the plated 185g cheapies will work fine.

Thank you strangers, for your help, advice and knowledge.
I couldn't find anything about either question except that Unique doesn't drop as well as others from the Pro Auto Disk. Most every chrono and handload listing seems to be from the 37 or 38, and being new to this game, I'm going about this very carefully and want to read and understand everything I can on it before actually pouring charges.


I also shoot a g39....reload 185gr plated fp with 5.5 gr of win231 @ 1.073 oal, speer nickel plated brass it seems like a good load no problems but i do not have a chrono....i say play around a little see what you like
..i am also at the high end of the powder @5.5gr.

i also shoot a 200 gr rn plated with win231 5.2 gr. oal 1.105... hope it helps....

PsychoKnight
07-31-2012, 22:58
Vihtavuori is made in Finland and is the cleanest burning powder I've ever used. It is also the most expensive--about twice the price as Titegroup.

N320 is my favorite. Highest velocity, tightest groups, least muzzle flash and residue I've ever found in any handgun powder. Its true, the only downside is price and availability. So, I order several units of their 4 lb jugs (you can order 12 in one shipment, or up to the 48 lb limit, for a single hazmat charge). About $30/ lb, including shpg/hzmt.

parados
08-11-2012, 16:17
I'm shooting with rainier 185gr flat nose with universal 5.8gr. Out of 100 rds I will have 1-2 failure to eject. But groups well and shoots well otherwise. However I noticed today that my brass gets ejected somewhat lethargic hitting me occasionally on the forehead. One got stuck on my nose and glasses. Thinking of increasing load to 5.9-6.0gr.

I started with 5.5, 5.8, and 6.1gr loads. I settled with 5.8 because of performance. Although the 6.1 grouped fine I was shooting to the right. The 5.5 had feeding ejecting issues and grouped horrible down the range.

This is with a g37 and using digital scale using a Lyman turret press. I tried the Lyman powder measure but had a .3 gr variance. Had ejecting issues with that too.


I did some testing with H. Universal and found that 5.7 with a 185 rainier worked well in a G38 but had issues when I tried it in a G37. This is most likely due to the increased mass of the slide. I eventually bumped it up to 6.0 and had no issues. I also use this load with 185gr XTP bullets as well. OAL: 1.065.

fasteddie565
09-15-2012, 10:12
OK, I finally got my other Pro 1000 set up to load 45 GAP. I am loading 5.6 grains of Universal behind a Rainier 200grn jacketed flat point bullet with WIN SP primer. This should prove to be a fairly stout practice load.

Range report to follow later today.


OK, not very stout, but a nice practice load. Functions well in all three GAPs.

buoux
11-01-2012, 18:25
Hello to all - I am looking to reload for my G37 & my G39, so I stopped by Sportsman's Warehouse & saw that they had some 185gr. Berry's Bullets (Hollow Base Round Nose 250 ct. Max. velocity 1250 fps). However, they are .452" in diameter and I don't know if they'll work for me in my situation. Can anyone enlighten me about the .451" vs. the .452" issue as it pertains to the GAP platform.
Sorry for the long post, but I can't find a concrete answer on the internet as to whether or not these will work in my G37/G39. I'd really appreciate any feedback.

Danny

fasteddie565
03-04-2013, 06:21
Hello to all - I am looking to reload for my G37 & my G39, so I stopped by Sportsman's Warehouse & saw that they had some 185gr. Berry's Bullets (Hollow Base Round Nose 250 ct. Max. velocity 1250 fps). However, they are .452" in diameter and I don't know if they'll work for me in my situation. Can anyone enlighten me about the .451" vs. the .452" issue as it pertains to the GAP platform.
Sorry for the long post, but I can't find a concrete answer on the internet as to whether or not these will work in my G37/G39. I'd really appreciate any feedback.

Danny

Danny,

Sorry to have left you out here. Normally, in my experience, .452 bullets come in lead or lead alloy and the .451 in jacketed or coated bullets. The coated bullets act a bit more like lead bullets. I shoot many many Berry's .452 bullets from Glock GAPs as well as my 45 ACP pistols.

Carl Spangler
03-12-2013, 21:44
DSB,

That was the trick, I made it a .pdf (See attached)

I just bought some Universal and some unique. I will play with those and then perhaps try some Clays, as I can also use that for 45 ACP.

Great info there!

Got 1000 Starline cases due to arrive this Thur. For my first GAP load I'll push some Montana Gold FMJ 230's with 4.7-4.8 gr of Universal. :cool:

Will update after the range trip.

cheers
JohnG

Catshooter
03-13-2013, 17:45
A heads to all you crazy GAPers (like me!). S&B is making GAP brass with large pistol primer pockets.

And I'm here to tell you that no matter how hard you push, a small pistol primer just won't stay in the pocket!


Cat

fasteddie565
03-25-2013, 06:15
Great info there!

Got 1000 Starline cases due to arrive this Thur. For my first GAP load I'll push some Montana Gold FMJ 230's with 4.7-4.8 gr of Universal. :cool:

Will update after the range trip.

cheers
JohnG


Soooo.....

How was this load? I found the Universal to work well, but had to got to 6.0 grns in a 200 grn copper plated Berry truncated cone bullet.

Carl Spangler
03-25-2013, 08:42
Soooo.....

How was this load? I found the Universal to work well, but had to got to 6.0 grns in a 200 grn copper plated Berry truncated cone bullet.

Thanks for the shout out. I got sidetracked on a house remodel and won't get to the range until sometime next week. :crying: I did get my chronograph so I'll be able to report actual velocities. Really looking forward to checking out some GAP loads!

BTW: I'd actually prefer to load 200 grn bullets with the GAP but they are unobtanium right now and I have a big supply of 230's.

regards
JohnG

Carl Spangler
06-08-2013, 21:52
Thanks for the shout out. I got sidetracked on a house remodel and won't get to the range until sometime next week. :crying: I did get my chronograph so I'll be able to report actual velocities. Really looking forward to checking out some GAP loads!

BTW: I'd actually prefer to load 200 grn bullets with the GAP but they are unobtanium right now and I have a big supply of 230's.

regards
JohnG

Holy cow that remodel really took me off my game.

Anyway, I finally got the GAP out to the range. Using new Starline brass and 230 grain FMJ I loaded 4.7 and 4.8 grains of Universal. Checkout included a chroni.

Unfortunately these loads had more than a fair bit of velocity variation. The 4.7 max/min was 90 FPS and the 4.8 was somewhat better but still not acceptable. I've since been told that Universal likes to be loaded toward the hot side of things so I'm guessing these mid range loads just weren't optimal for that powder. ???

A couple of other somewhat disappointing issues. The ejected brass was consistently clobbering me in the head and the trigger pull was WAY WAY higher than the claimed 5.5#. The trigger pull I can deal with but I'd like some rec's on how to deal with case ejection issue and velocity variation. ???

I suspect I need to locate some 200gr bullets to make this GAP a happy camper. Perhaps that will fix the ejection issues too. :dunno:

Thanks for any advice................. :wavey:

Edit: I also ordered the Lone Wolf barrel for the G37. This will allow me to try a few more options on bullets.

Edit 06/17/13
Ran another 50 rounds through the GAP with the both the factory and Lone Wolf barrel. Load was 4.95 gr Universal with 230 gr FMJ. The velocity spread was tighter than with the 4.7 and 4.8 gr loads. We're heading to the range tomorrow with another 50 loaded at 5.0gr of Universal. I think this 5.0 will be the end of the road for Universal. I'm looking for some WSF which I suspect will be a better match for this heavy 230 gr bullet.

cheers
JohnG

Cactus Jack
06-18-2013, 15:59
Carl keep us posted.. I just picked up a G37 and 250 rounds of Speer factory 185gr TMJ and 200 Round of Speer 200gr TMJ.. ordered 400 pieces of brass from LEO Brass and have 250 200gr RNF from Precision Bullets on the way......checking out load data now and getting ready to hit the range and shoot this rascal

Carl Spangler
06-18-2013, 22:47
More good stuff with the G37
Bought a box of factory 230gr ammo and compared it to a 5.0(+) Universal load (new Starline brass) in both the Glock and Lone Wolf barrel.

The following data was taken at ~4500 ft elevation and is just a prelim as I really need a higher sample set:

Federal American Eagle 230gr Glock barrel: 879 fps avg
Federal American Eagle 230gr Lone Wolf barrel: 880 fps avg
The standard deviation was just ~15 fps with the LW barrel and about ~22 fps with the Glock barrel.

5.0 gr Universal with 230 gr FMJ Glock barrel: ~815 fps
5.0 gr Universal with 230 gr FMJ and LW barrel: ~830 fps
The standard dev with both the Glock and LW barrel was a fair bit higher than the Federal ammo. Not sure if the sample set was sufficient but the LW barrel seemed to perform better than the Glock barrel with the 'reloads'.

I will say that the factory ammo was more consistent and a bit 'hotter' than the Universal load. I'm coming to the conclusion (?) that Universal isn't the best for this weight bullet. However, I did finally find some WSF powder so my next attempt (next week???) will be with that powder. I probably won't have any 200 gr bullets for a while as they are just unobtanium right now. :dunno:

cheers
JohnG

furn man
06-18-2013, 23:50
I use hornady dies in .45 acp for my .45 gap. bought them cheap at a gun show and they work fine.

furn man
06-19-2013, 00:05
anyone try winchesters autocomp powder for .45 gap? Can't seem to find any recipes for 230 gr. bullet.

Cactus Jack
06-19-2013, 08:20
More good stuff with the G37
Bought a box of factory 230gr ammo and compared it to a 5.0(+) Universal load (new Starline brass) in both the Glock and Lone Wolf barrel.

The following data was taken at ~4500 ft elevation and is just a prelim as I really need a higher sample set:

Federal American Eagle 230gr Glock barrel: 879 fps avg
Federal American Eagle 230gr Lone Wolf barrel: 880 fps avg
The standard deviation was just ~15 fps with the LW barrel and about ~22 fps with the Glock barrel.

5.0 gr Universal with 230 gr FMJ Glock barrel: ~815 fps
5.0 gr Universal with 230 gr FMJ and LW barrel: ~830 fps
The standard dev with both the Glock and LW barrel was a fair bit higher than the Federal ammo. Not sure if the sample set was sufficient but the LW barrel seemed to perform better than the Glock barrel with the 'reloads'.

I will say that the factory ammo was more consistent and a bit 'hotter' than the Universal load. I'm coming to the conclusion (?) that Universal isn't the best for this weight bullet. However, I did finally find some WSF powder so my next attempt (next week???) will be with that powder. I probably won't have any 200 gr bullets for a while as they are just unobtanium right now. :dunno:

cheers
JohnG

I think you might want to look at Power Pistol or WSF for the 230 Grain pill in the 45 GAP.... check this out if you have not done so already - http://www.reloadammo.com/45-gap-loads.htm

Shot my G37 last night at the local range... 15-25 yards standing slow fire... the gun is scary accurate and relatively mild recoiling. I love it. I am going to be reloading sooner than later and will post up once I do. 200 grain Precision Bullets and 200 Grain Hunters Supply RNFP bullets with Power Pistol and AA#5. I think a G38 is in my future as well.....

Carl Spangler
06-19-2013, 19:32
I think you might want to look at Power Pistol or WSF for the 230 Grain pill in the 45 GAP.... check this out if you have not done so already - http://www.reloadammo.com/45-gap-loads.htm

Shot my G37 last night at the local range... 15-25 yards standing slow fire... the gun is scary accurate and relatively mild recoiling. I love it. I am going to be reloading sooner than later and will post up once I do. 200 grain Precision Bullets and 200 Grain Hunters Supply RNFP bullets with Power Pistol and AA#5. I think a G38 is in my future as well.....

I ordered a bunch of those 200gr Precision Bullets today. Got an email indicating orders are backed up ~14 weeks. :shocked:

In the mean time I'm going to try WSF with those 230 Montana Gold bullets.

cheers
JohnG

Cactus Jack
06-19-2013, 20:14
I ordered a bunch of those 200gr Precision Bullets today. Got an email indicating orders are backed up ~14 weeks. :shocked:

In the mean time I'm going to try WSF with those 230 Montana Gold bullets.

cheers
JohnG

Yup. I was told 10-12 weeks when I ordered mine. Midway USA has the Hunters Supply 200Gr RNFP in stock and I have those here now..... Gonna load up once my dies arrive.

Carl Spangler
06-19-2013, 20:19
Yup. I was told 10-12 weeks when I ordered mine. Midway USA has the Hunters Supply 200Gr RNFP in stock and I have those here now..... Gonna load up once my dies arrive.

What dies did you order?

The 4 die Lee set I got were a major PITA because the flair and crimp dies were "too long". i.e. optomized for the longer 45 ACP case. I had to shorten them :wow: on the grinder which is not an optimal solution. :whistling:

Firecop203
06-20-2013, 15:21
What dies did you order?

The 4 die Lee set I got were a major PITA because the flair and crimp dies were "too long". i.e. optomized for the longer 45 ACP case. I had to shorten them :wow: on the grinder which is not an optimal solution. :whistling:


Grind the dies?:wow:

I have Lee dies and all I had to do was adjust them down. What kind of press are you using?

Carl Spangler
06-20-2013, 17:53
Grind the dies?:wow:

I have Lee dies and all I had to do was adjust them down. What kind of press are you using?

Using a LNL and 4 die set. The flare and crimp die were both too long. i.e. couldn't get enough flare and crimp without the die bodies hitting the shell plate.

JohnG

Cactus Jack
06-21-2013, 03:08
Using a LNL and 4 die set. The flare and crimp die were both too long. i.e. couldn't get enough flare and crimp without the die bodies hitting the shell plate.

JohnG

Lee Dies for me as well.... they just arrived and I will get them onto the RL550B sometime next week and see how they work out... Lordy they better simply adjust down to accommodate the GAP and not require fitting/grinding.

Also ordered some 200 grain hp cast bullets and again find the waiting game upon me as the industry tries to keep up with firearmageddon.. Here is the link to the 200gr HP bullet http://www.bslbullet.com/200-grain-hollowpoint-round-plain-base-p-7.html

xrmattaz
07-02-2013, 15:17
Using a LNL and 4 die set. The flare and crimp die were both too long. i.e. couldn't get enough flare and crimp without the die bodies hitting the shell plate.

JohnG

This is the same problem I have.....is there a solution other than this old rookie grinding?

Carl Spangler
07-02-2013, 16:02
This is the same problem I have.....is there a solution other than this old rookie grinding?

Buy dies from another Co. Which one I don't know (for SURE) ~~~~~~

My bro purchased an extra set of Dillon 45 cal dies for his 650 and we will have a go at some GAP ammo in a week or so. :whistling:

cheers
JohnG

xrmattaz
07-02-2013, 16:40
Buy dies from another Co. Which one I don't know (for SURE) ~~~~~~

My bro purchased an extra set of Dillon 45 cal dies for his 650 and we will have a go at some GAP ammo in a week or so. :whistling:

cheers
JohnG

For a few years now, I've worked around the problem, although it does weigh on my mind. I'll search for different/specific GAP dies.

hunter won
01-02-2014, 14:05
Any good loads in .45 GAP using Unique 230 grain roundnose lead and 185 grain swc.

trlcavscout
01-03-2014, 01:07
G39, unsuccessful first attempt. I have downloaded 9/10/40/45acp with titegroup and good success but today didn't work! First range trip with the G39, lots of fun with factory AE and WWB 230gr. I haven't got my big brass order so I was limited on what I had.

Both of these loads failed to cycle the slide half the time. They were soft and fun and accurate but no go. The 200gr plated RN bullets will be my main loadings but will probably go to 230gr if I get a good deal on them. I know the gun will loosen up a bit. Anybody else using TG powder and similar bullets on the G39 what's the lowest powder charge you have gotten away with and still be accurate and reliable? The hydrashock loads were just because I had 16 of them left from my acp and wanted them gone.

165gr Federal hydrashock
4.5gr TG
Win primer
Assorted brass

200gr extreme round nose plated
4.0 TG
Win primer
Assorted brass

AZson
01-03-2014, 09:52
Anybody use Unique or Red Dot ?

Both, I also have use Bear Creak lead bullets for years also.
Pretty much every load I have fallowed on the web sites have worked very good for me.

fasteddie565
01-04-2014, 08:17
G39, unsuccessful first attempt. I have downloaded 9/10/40/45acp with titegroup and good success but today didn't work! First range trip with the G39, lots of fun with factory AE and WWB 230gr. I haven't got my big brass order so I was limited on what I had.

Both of these loads failed to cycle the slide half the time. They were soft and fun and accurate but no go. The 200gr plated RN bullets will be my main loadings but will probably go to 230gr if I get a good deal on them. I know the gun will loosen up a bit. Anybody else using TG powder and similar bullets on the G39 what's the lowest powder charge you have gotten away with and still be accurate and reliable? The hydrashock loads were just because I had 16 of them left from my acp and wanted them gone.

165gr Federal hydrashock
4.5gr TG
Win primer
Assorted brass

200gr extreme round nose plated
4.0 TG
Win primer
Assorted brass

I do not shoot 165's but an estimation from 155's and 185's shows 4.5 grn on the very low end of the range. Same with 4.0 for the 200. Just too light a load. I would add 2 10ths of a grain for each load you described as a minimum load.

I love the plated bullets. Most manufacturers recommend loading like lead. A safe bet is starting somewhere in the middle of jacketed bullet loads or just follow lead loads if available.

My experience is that the 200 grn bullets do the best and have the most varied load recipes available (As opposed to the 230)

attrapereves
01-17-2014, 13:03
I've been thinking of picking up a 45GAP. I looked over some load data and found out that a lot of the powders I use for 45ACP do not have load data for the 45GAP. Can you start with 45ACP data and work up?

Which bullet weight is preferred for 45GAP? Are rounded nose or flat points preferred?

Sheepdog689
01-17-2014, 18:31
I've been thinking of picking up a 45GAP. I looked over some load data and found out that a lot of the powders I use for 45ACP do not have load data for the 45GAP. Can you start with 45ACP data and work up?

Which bullet weight is preferred for 45GAP? Are rounded nose or flat points preferred?

I'm using 185 gr Berry's Bullets, hollow base round nose. They work great.

My Lee load data book has 45GAP listed in it but it doesn't list Unique which I use. I went on Alliance's website and downloaded load data for a 45GAP 185gr JHP and used the lower weight.

attrapereves
02-28-2014, 15:03
I've got some powder that does not have 45GAP load data listed. Is is acceptable to start with 45ACP data and work up loads?

I've been using Ramshot competition and IMR PB for 185 and 200gr 45ACP loads, but these powders do not have listings for 45GAP.

fasteddie565
03-10-2014, 06:09
I've got some powder that does not have 45GAP load data listed. Is is acceptable to start with 45ACP data and work up loads?

I've been using Ramshot competition and IMR PB for 185 and 200gr 45ACP loads, but these powders do not have listings for 45GAP.

The powders I use for 40 S&W are closer to the types I use for 45 GAP.

There are some good loads for W 231. I have been using Clays and Universal Clays, but the availability is zero right now, so I am going to switch to either tight group or power pistol. (I have 8 lbs of each)

I am currently using 4.0 grns of Clays under a Rainier 200 FP copper coated bullet.

vaquero aleman
06-23-2014, 05:33
Most of the magazine articles on 45 gap, that I have read, state that a specially formulated powder is used to attain the velocities that are listed for it. Do any of you guys use a specially formulated powder for loading 45 gap?

fasteddie565
06-23-2014, 05:43
No, but a lot of commercial ammunition manufacturers have custom made powder for their ammo. Accurate Arm sells their MilSpec powder at a discounted rate.

There are lots of good powders for 45 GAP. As stated above, I have been using Clays, but it is currently unavailable so as I load my last hopper full of clays am deciding to use PowerPistol or Titegroup.

Catshooter
06-23-2014, 13:19
vaquero,

My opinion but they're full of it. I think they say things like to make it sound like they have a special 'in' that us peons don't have.

I use Universal Clays. Works great.


Cat

vaquero aleman
06-23-2014, 13:27
vaquero,

My opinion but there full of it. I think they say things like to make it sound like they have a special 'in' that us peons don't have.

I use Universal Clays. Works great.


Cat

I must agree. The writers have to maintain their relevance. God forbid they print some erroneous information since everything that they tell us is the Gospel.

dbarry
06-23-2014, 15:07
I've used bullseye, herco, blue dot and others.

fasteddie565
06-28-2014, 10:54
As I bid my last hopper full of Universal farewell, I am switching to PowerPistol. I will start with about 6.5 - 6.7 grains under a 200 grn Xtreme Flat Point.

Range reports to come. FWIW, the burn rate for Universal and Power Pistol are # 42 and # 43 respectively on the burn rate chart.

fasteddie565
06-29-2014, 18:33
OK, inventory shows I have about 1500 185 grn xtreme bullets, so I loaded these instead. I used 7.3 grns of power pistol under the 185 xtreme flatpoint. Very accurate and as usual, a soft shooting round. That PP does make a flash though doesn't it?

Catshooter
06-29-2014, 20:13
That's one of many things I like about Universal Clays. It's flash-suppressed.

Of course, try finding any . . .


Cat

GRR
06-29-2014, 20:21
This is the same problem I have.....is there a solution other than this old rookie grinding?

Dillon 45 acp dies work fine on my 550. Dillon now sells them as 45 acp/45 gap dies.

ADK_40GLKr
07-01-2014, 15:52
This is the same problem I have.....is there a solution other than this old rookie grinding?

Not sure the difference, but I have the Lee 3 die .45 set, adjusted down to GAP. I was getting some FTGIB, so I had to make sure i flared them first, then do a little finagling with the crimp and the rounds started coming out fine.

One thing I noticed setting up a rifle die was that I had gotten an extra lock ring I didn't need on the re-sizer and couldn't screw it down all the way.

ADK_40GLKr
07-01-2014, 16:04
Any good loads in .45 GAP using Unique 230 grain roundnose lead and 185 grain swc.

I've been using Power Pistol and Longshot with 230 grain RN. I'm at camp without my Lyman Manual, but I think it gives the formula for PP. Check for Longshot, but I think I calculated from the ACP table starting with 90% of the minimum.

Catshooter
07-01-2014, 17:34
I use 45 ACP dies for reloading my GAPs. No modifications.


Cat

fasteddie565
07-06-2014, 18:52
Lee makes a die set specifically for 45 GAP. I use them on a Pro 1000 and they work great. I have a lot of PowerPistol recipes if someone wants me to publish them.

Catshooter
07-06-2014, 20:40
Yes. Lee is pretty good at making/labeling die sets for a single caliber when in fact the dies properly made will fit more than just one caliber.

Hornady does the opposite.


Cat