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Jon_R
12-16-2009, 09:31
I just ordered my first Sig. I ordered a Sig 226 9MM DAK for my Christmas Gift from my Wife. I should get it in a couple of days. I plan to use it some in IDPA and IPSC. I am left handed and thought going with the DAK would make it easier then having to use the decocker.

Looking forward to getting it and trying it out.

I might move the mag release over which I think you can do and might try the short reset trigger but not until I run it a few months. If I move the mag release it would be my only pistol with it moved so that may create more problem then it is worth.

Cobra64
12-20-2009, 20:35
I just ordered my first Sig. I ordered a Sig 226 9MM DAK for my Christmas Gift from my Wife. I should get it in a couple of days. I plan to use it some in IDPA and IPSC. I am left handed and thought going with the DAK would make it easier then having to use the decocker.

Looking forward to getting it and trying it out.

I might move the mag release over which I think you can do and might try the short reset trigger but not until I run it a few months. If I move the mag release it would be my only pistol with it moved so that may create more problem then it is worth.

Congrats! :cool: I have a number of older Sigs that have never let me down. Keep in mind, it will take a little getting used to the DAK trigger system.

As for the decocker, as a lefty, I've been shooting my six DA/SA Sigs for years, and never had an issue with the de-cocker. Left index finger works well, and only necessary to de-cock when ready to holster or otherwise make safe when the threat is gone.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Grayguns%20Classes/LeftGrip2.jpg

bac1023
12-20-2009, 21:12
Congrats on your first Sig. :thumbsup:

Jon_R
12-21-2009, 06:41
Thanks for the feedback. The only DA/SA pistol I have ever fired is the M9 so I won't know what I am missing going with the DAK. :) All the rest of my pistols are 1911s or Striker Fired (M&P, XD, Glock). I am still waiting for it to show up at the shop. I have time off for the next couple of weeks so it would be nice to be able to get it this week but waiting on the phone call and I will post my about my first range trip with a SIG and how the DAK feels compared to my other pistols. I am not small so the 226 should feel pretty good. Looking forward to it. If I like it a lot I will add another one with the traditional DA/SA.



Congrats! :cool: I have a number of older Sigs that have never let me down. Keep in mind, it will take a little getting used to the DAK trigger system.

As for the decocker, as a lefty, I've been shooting my six DA/SA Sigs for years, and never had an issue with the de-cocker. Left index finger works well, and only necessary to de-cock when ready to holster or otherwise make safe when the threat is gone.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Grayguns%20Classes/LeftGrip2.jpg

Cobra64
12-21-2009, 10:06
Thanks for the feedback. The only DA/SA pistol I have ever fired is the M9 so I won't know what I am missing going with the DAK. :) All the rest of my pistols are 1911s or Striker Fired (M&P, XD, Glock). I am still waiting for it to show up at the shop. I have time off for the next couple of weeks so it would be nice to be able to get it this week but waiting on the phone call and I will post my about my first range trip with a SIG and how the DAK feels compared to my other pistols. I am not small so the 226 should feel pretty good. Looking forward to it. If I like it a lot I will add another one with the traditional DA/SA.

Again, congrats!.

There's some nice SAS shots here: http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/138101842


(Note post #5 from memebr 1lowlife. He converted one of his DAKs to DA/SA)

Jon_R
12-24-2009, 11:41
Well this morning my wife had to run out and pick up a couple things so I went along with her. It is pretty crazy out there so I thought it best to tag along. Since we where up by the shop I ordered it from we stopped by on the way back home and they had got it that morning so I was able to pick it up.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/rhoades-jon/IMG_8681.jpg

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/rhoades-jon/IMG_8680.jpg


Funny thing was they had to order it with Night Sights in order to get it quickly. I didn't want night sights so I had to wait for the Gunsmith to swap the sights. While waiting my wife and I looked around and I had been wanting a .45 M&P so I picked this one up to. Probably would have been cheaper to pay for the night sights. :)

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/rhoades-jon/IMG_8682.jpg

I am shooting the IDPA classifier on Sat so I will bring both of them along and get a couple mags through them to test function. I don't have the accessories yet to classify with them. Need to order holster and a few more mags. The DAK felt pretty good dry firing it. I have to put some rounds through them and get used to it. The 226 felt good in my wife and daughters hands to. They commented how much heavier it was then the G17s they shoot. I will have to let them try it some to. I expect recoil of 9mm through the 226 to be really tame for them.

Jon_R
12-28-2009, 17:38
Just shot 20 rounds into the berm to make sure it would go bang and it worked 100%. Plan to clean it up and take it out to run it some with actual targets to shoot at and see how it does. It should be soon. I also need to order a few more magazines and a holster I can use for IDPA. Probably mec-gar for the mags and a Comp-Tac Standard Belt Holster. I wouldn't mind a blackhawk belt holster but left handed it seems to only sell it with the serpa lock button which I don't need for IDPA. They have left handed glock holsters without the lock which I have already.

If anyone has other suggestions for the mags or holsters I am all ears. For IDPA just need a strong side kydex owb holster with no drop or offset.

curriek
12-28-2009, 17:58
Congrats! I love my P229 DAK... more so than their DA/SA.

Cobra64
12-29-2009, 21:41
Just shot 20 rounds into the berm to make sure it would go bang and it worked 100%. Plan to clean it up and take it out to run it some with actual targets to shoot at and see how it does. It should be soon. I also need to order a few more magazines and a holster I can use for IDPA. Probably mec-gar for the mags and a Comp-Tac Standard Belt Holster. I wouldn't mind a blackhawk belt holster but left handed it seems to only sell it with the serpa lock button which I don't need for IDPA. They have left handed glock holsters without the lock which I have already.

If anyone has other suggestions for the mags or holsters I am all ears. For IDPA just need a strong side kydex owb holster with no drop or offset.



Good choice. I have six Comp-Tac belt holsters which appear to be the preferred by IDPA shooters. I prefer Blade-Tech mag carriers though.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P1000553-Rotated.jpg

Many training schools will not allow Serpas for a variety of reasons.

Jon_R
01-01-2010, 19:17
I field stripped it and cleaned it today.

Couple of observations since it is my first Sig.

Not a big fan of the sights so far. I have the regular contrast sights and the white on the rear sight is bothering me. I will leave it alone until I run it in competition a couple times then decide. On my glocks I run the Warren Tactical sights with either a black front site or FO front. I am not sure they make them for anything but Glocks. If anyone has any recommendations feel free.

I was amazed how cheap the guide rod felt when I took it apart. I am not sure if it is common to replace those or not.

If anyone is using a 226 or a 226 Dak in IDPA or IPSC do you gain much with swapping out the trigger for Short Trigger. My hands are not small I am 6' 3" but I didn't know if that change is common for speed related competition shooting.

Cobra64
01-01-2010, 19:33
I field stripped it and cleaned it today.

Couple of observations since it is my first Sig.

Not a big fan of the sights so far. I have the regular contrast sights and the white on the rear sight is bothering me. I will leave it alone until I run it in competition a couple times then decide. On my glocks I run the Warren Tactical sights with either a black front site or FO front. I am not sure they make them for anything but Glocks. If anyone has any recommendations feel free.

I was amazed how cheap the guide rod felt when I took it apart. I am not sure if it is common to replace those or not.

If anyone is using a 226 or a 226 Dak in IDPA or IPSC do you gain much with swapping out the trigger for Short Trigger. My hands are not small I am 6' 3" but I didn't know if that change is common for speed related competition shooting.

On my Grayguns customized P226ST...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020550.jpg



I went with Dawson front, and Warren Tactical rear sights...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020540.jpg




http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1020546.jpg



As for the guide rod, I put Steve Bedaire stainless steel guide rods in all my P-Series Sigs.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1010400.jpg

Dandapani
01-01-2010, 19:47
Couple of things about the DAK trigger which I learned from my P239 SAS. When you dry fire, and the hammer falls all the way down, you no longer have the DAK advantage. Without the slide operating and "precocking" the hammer, the DAK isn't in play. To restore it after dry fire, pull the trigger a bit to bring the dropped hammer to the first notch and let the trigger return fully out. Then you have the DAK leverage.

Same thing when shooting. You must let the trigger return fully to have the reduced DAK trigger weight. If you return the trigger to the first click, you will have the ability to DA the hammer back, but it won't be fully DAK advantaged. Full return trigger reset is required. Think revolver.

Since I ccw both a snub revo and the P239 DAK, this now seems natural to me. But I did have to learn the DAK trigger after shooting a Glock for so long.

Jon_R
01-06-2010, 11:14
As for the guide rod, I put Steve Bedaire stainless steel guide rods in all my P-Series Sigs.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P226/P1010400.jpg

I ordered one of these guide rods for my pistol. Should have it soon. Also picked up 4 additional Mecgar magazines and the Comp-Tac Holster on order. If I get everything I might run it at IDPA this month.

LEAD
01-06-2010, 11:22
Couple of things about the DAK trigger which I learned from my P239 SAS. When you dry fire, and the hammer falls all the way down, you no longer have the DAK advantage. Without the slide operating and "precocking" the hammer, the DAK isn't in play. To restore it after dry fire, pull the trigger a bit to bring the dropped hammer to the first notch and let the trigger return fully out. Then you have the DAK leverage.

Same thing when shooting. You must let the trigger return fully to have the reduced DAK trigger weight. If you return the trigger to the first click, you will have the ability to DA the hammer back, but it won't be fully DAK advantaged. Full return trigger reset is required. Think revolver.

Since I ccw both a snub revo and the P239 DAK, this now seems natural to me. But I did have to learn the DAK trigger after shooting a Glock for so long.

Good post, I found that when dryfiring you need to do as you suggested to get what you encounter when shooting live ammo

LEAD
01-06-2010, 11:41
I field stripped it and cleaned it today.

Couple of observations since it is my first Sig.

Not a big fan of the sights so far. I have the regular contrast sights and the white on the rear sight is bothering me. I will leave it alone until I run it in competition a couple times then decide. On my glocks I run the Warren Tactical sights with either a black front site or FO front. I am not sure they make them for anything but Glocks. If anyone has any recommendations feel free.

I was amazed how cheap the guide rod felt when I took it apart. I am not sure if it is common to replace those or not.

If anyone is using a 226 or a 226 Dak in IDPA or IPSC do you gain much with swapping out the trigger for Short Trigger. My hands are not small I am 6' 3" but I didn't know if that change is common for speed related competition shooting.


I would think given your description you would not benefit from the short trigger, I however, dont do competitive shooting. One thing I've found doing target shooting is that rubber houge grips benefit controlability.

For your information, I was looking into improvements for a DAK and found that accoridng to sig's site. The DAK model cannot get a Short Reset Trigger, or the Action Ehancement Package.

What sights did you go with, why didn't you like the sig nite sights?

Jon_R
01-06-2010, 11:53
I would think given your description you would not benefit from the short trigger, I however, dont do competitive shooting. One thing I've found doing target shooting is that rubber houge grips benefit controlability.

For your information, I was looking into improvements for a DAK and found that accoridng to sig's site. The DAK model cannot get a Short Reset Trigger, or the Action Ehancement Package.

What sights did you go with, why didn't you like the sig nite sights?

Right now it just has the Sig Contrast sights on them. I won't change them until I shoot a few matches with it to make sure I don't like them vs. them just being different then the pistols (glock) I have more time with. On the Glocks I have gone to Warren Tactical sights all black other then a FO front on my G35.

I am not sure if I would like the Sig night sights or not. I just didn't want to pay for them and I don't plan to use the pistol in low light so I just went with the cheapest sights knowing I can change them later if I want.

LEAD
01-06-2010, 12:19
I heard what you're saying. As for the grips which I reccomend here is what they look like on;
http://glocktalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=250&pictureid=2445
http://glocktalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=250&pictureid=2446
They certainly don't reduce the distance to trigger, so maybe they're not for you if you're considering the short trigger. I dont think my hands are large and I like this setup in .357sig
http://glocktalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=250&pictureid=2444

Cobra64
01-06-2010, 12:20
I ordered one of these guide rods for my pistol. Should have it soon. Also picked up 4 additional Mecgar magazines and the Comp-Tac Holster on order. If I get everything I might run it at IDPA this month.You put together a great combination! Mec Gar is Sig's mag supplier, Comp-Tac belt holsters are the most popular among IDPA shooters, and the stainless Bedair guide rod is what Sig should have in their pistols anyhow!

Jon_R
01-06-2010, 12:32
I heard what you're saying. As for the grips which I reccomend here is what they look like on;


They certainly don't reduce the distance to trigger, so maybe they're not for you if you're considering the short trigger. I dont think my hands are large and I like this setup in .357sig


That looks very nice and I might give that grip a shot.

LOP on any handgun has never been an issue with me. I am pretty big and have long fingers the only reason I was asking about the short reset trigger is for speed. It just sounds like it would be faster when shooting against a clock based on its name.

If the distance you have to pull the trigger to fire is the same then it wouldn't really make a difference to me I can reach it just as well how it is. I hope that is somewhat clear. :)

LEAD
01-06-2010, 12:54
That looks very nice and I might give that grip a shot.

LOP on any handgun has never been an issue with me. I am pretty big and have long fingers the only reason I was asking about the short reset trigger is for speed. It just sounds like it would be faster when shooting against a clock based on its name.

If the distance you have to pull the trigger to fire is the same then it wouldn't really make a difference to me I can reach it just as well how it is. I hope that is somewhat clear. :)

The grip is affordable enough to give a try, i think i saw one for $20.

As for the short reset trigger, heres what sig says about this option:

Short Reset Trigger package – This service replaces your old trigger with a Short Reset Trigger system which reduces trigger reset travel by 60% (FOR 220, 225, 226, 228, 229, 239, 245 AND 226X5 ALL AROUND. NOT FOR SAO, DAO, DAK MODELS) $99.95*

So we're out of luck in that deptartment, all about devoloping the reset skill correctly as is.

heres the sig custom shop

http://www.sigsauer.com/CustomShop/SpecialCTU.aspx

Jon_R
01-06-2010, 12:57
The grip is affordable enough to give a try, i think i saw one for $20.

As for the short reset trigger, heres what sig says about this option:

Short Reset Trigger package This service replaces your old trigger with a Short Reset Trigger system which reduces trigger reset travel by 60% (FOR 220, 225, 226, 228, 229, 239, 245 AND 226X5 ALL AROUND. NOT FOR SAO, DAO, DAK MODELS) $99.95*

I guess I don't have to worry about SRT since the only SIG I own is DAK. :) My wife might be in the market for a new pistol and she has small hands.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1165558

Not sure if SIG has something for her until we go look around. I don't think the 226 would be for her even with a SRT.

Cobra64
01-06-2010, 12:59
That looks very nice and I might give that grip a shot.

LOP on any handgun has never been an issue with me. I am pretty big and have long fingers the only reason I was asking about the short reset trigger is for speed. It just sounds like it would be faster when shooting against a clock based on its name.

If the distance you have to pull the trigger to fire is the same then it wouldn't really make a difference to me I can reach it just as well how it is. I hope that is somewhat clear. :)Unless you're a super competitive shooter like Todd Jarrett, the short reset trigger may not be beneficial snce it typically takes more time for most of us to acquire / re-acquire sight alignment on the taget than pressing the trigger.

Also, some folks believe that there is more trigger travel with a short reset trigger. I have not noticed this with my Grayguns competition action package though.

Just some points to consider...

Jon_R
01-06-2010, 13:11
I am not super competitive with competitive shooters just competitive with mediocre shooters. :)

I try and beat my friend and last match he beet me by .5 seconds.

I will run it as is for a couple of months before I consider tinkering.

Thanks for all your feedback.


Unless you're a super competitive shooter like Todd Jarrett, the short reset trigger may not be beneficial snce it typically takes more time for most of us to acquire / re-acquire sight alignment on the target than pressing the trigger.

Also, some folks believe that there is more trigger travel with a short reset trigger. I have not noticed this with my Grayguns competition action package though.

Just some points to consider...

Cobra64
01-06-2010, 14:21
I am not super competitive with competitive shooters just competitive with mediocre shooters. :)

I try and beat my friend and last match he beet me by .5 seconds.

I will run it as is for a couple of months before I consider tinkering.

Thanks for all your feedback. Very wise approach getting to know the gun before changing out parts.

When I first got my HK P2000 a few years ago, I hated it. After getting used to its differences from my other pistols, it's become one of my favorites, with no modifications or tinkering. :)

LEAD
01-06-2010, 15:07
I agree with Cobra64 there. However if you don't end up warming up to the DAK or other parts, you can convert to DA/SA and also get the SRT and AEP on the pistol after that. Of course try someone elses DA/SA before making the leap. I like the DAK but have little experience with the DA/SA.

Cobra64
01-06-2010, 15:49
I agree with Cobra64 there. However if you don't end up warming up to the DAK or other parts, you can convert to DA/SA and also get the SRT and AEP on the pistol after that. Of course try someone elses DA/SA before making the leap. I like the DAK but have little experience with the DA/SA.Absolutely! There's a very well experienced and respected Sigster over on Sig Forum who came from the revolver era, has shot millions of rounds through Sigs, and just a few years ago bacame what I call a "DAKster." :)

If the OP cares to snoop around on Sig Forum, he can search for member "sigfreund" who is also a Sig armorer. On occasion, he and I have communicated privately on Sig decisions, choices, and issues.

Jon_R
01-24-2010, 16:05
Shot the pistol this morning at our monthly IDPA match. It ran 100% ~120 rounds 7 stages. I only shot 30 rounds through it before today. It was fun to shoot. I need more time with it to get comfortable. On the long shots I got a little off from center mass usually a little low. Probably dropping the nose a little getting used to the trigger. Finding the mag release probably cost me the most time. For now I am leaving the mag release on the left side despite being a lefty. All my other pistols are that way and I just rotate my left hand some and hit it with my trigger finger. Need to clean it up. I don't another match to shoot it until 3-Gun Feb 20th. On Feb 13th I am shooting a GSSF(glock) match. Probably shouldn't bring the sig.

Cobra64
01-24-2010, 17:08
Shot the pistol this morning at our monthly IDPA match. It ran 100% ~120 rounds 7 stages. I only shot 30 rounds through it before today. It was fun to shoot. I need more time with it to get comfortable. On the long shots I got a little off from center mass usually a little low. Probably dropping the nose a little getting used to the trigger. Finding the mag release probably cost me the most time. For now I am leaving the mag release on the left side despite being a lefty. All my other pistols are that way and I just rotate my left hand some and hit it with my trigger finger. Need to clean it up. I don't another match to shoot it until 3-Gun Feb 20th. On Feb 13th I am shooting a GSSF(glock) match. Probably shouldn't bring the sig.

Excellent! The DA takes time to get used to. The trick is not to try to stage the tripping point. Once you execute the press, let 'er continue through the entire stroke. Much like a golf swing.

As for the mag release, all of my pistols are left set up for righties. We just use the trigger finger. The potential problem in flipping the mag release is that if you get in an "unfortunate" situation and have to operate someone else's gun, the mag release ain't there. ;)