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Mofeen
12-21-2009, 15:38
I am looking for a Tritium bead to go on my 870 Tac-2. My eyes just cant see the stock one very well. My 870 is for HD and fun out in the yard. The only tritium front bead I have been able to find so far is the one made by XS.

Anyone used it before? Any others that I should check out?

Thanks.

n2wishn
12-22-2009, 09:24
If I recall correctly, Ameriglo makes sights for the barrel with the rifled sights, XS is the only one for the beed and Trijicon makes ghost ring sights that replace the beed on the front and adds the ghost ring at the back of the receiver. So I think XS is probably your only option for keeping the beed intact.

Glockdude1
12-22-2009, 09:30
I went with a front/rear Tritium set up from Wilson Combat.
http://media.midwayusa.com/ProductImages/Medium/123185.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2ro2691.jpg

$145 for the set.

:cool:

hk1286
12-22-2009, 09:40
Meprolight use to make a tru dot bead with trituim insert. Check Midway.

aippi
12-22-2009, 12:35
Go with the XS big dot. It installs very easy as it fits right over your existing bead and is shaped to the ramp. Use a very strong adhesive and ruff up the area under on the ramp under the sight and the bottom of the sight till you see metal. this way you get a metal to metal bond instead of a finish to finish.

They sell for $60 anywhere. I install plenty of these and have never had one come off.

Fireman1291
12-23-2009, 07:31
I went with a front/rear Tritium set up from Wilson Combat.
http://media.midwayusa.com/ProductImages/Medium/123185.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2ro2691.jpg

$145 for the set.

:cool:

Im looking at these for the same shotgun you own. Did you install them yourself? If so, how did you do it? Did it come with epoxy for the front sight, and how does the rear attach? Thanks ahead of time!

Glockdude1
12-23-2009, 15:45
It was the Trak-Lock II Ghost Ring, Tritium Front and Rear, 12 ga.
SGTL2-TFR-12 Price: $139.95

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/sa_traklock.asp

I had my smith put them on. The front sight was put on with epoxy.
(The original bead is still under the new front sight)

The rear sight was put on after the receiver was drilled and tapped. I made a really nice shotgun into a really great shotgun.

I have also installed a new speedfeed forend on my 870 as of yesterday.

http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/skus/l_838150870_1.jpg

Post pics of yours when you are done with it.

:cool:

Fireman1291
12-23-2009, 17:02
It was the Trak-Lock II Ghost Ring, Tritium Front and Rear, 12 ga.
SGTL2-TFR-12 Price: $139.95

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/sa_traklock.asp

I had my smith put them on. The front sight was put on with epoxy.
(The original bead is still under the new front sight)

The rear sight was put on after the receiver was drilled and tapped. I made a really nice shotgun into a really great shotgun.

I have also installed a new speedfeed forend on my 870 as of yesterday.

http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/skus/l_838150870_1.jpg

Post pics of yours when you are done with it.

:cool:

Crap. Mine is the new 870 HD's that come with the speedfeed forearm, I would have given you my old one for the cost of shipping as I just ordered the shorty Houge stock/forearm set.:dunno:

I ordered the Mesa tactical 6 rd holder and the houge stock set that shortens the length of pull by 2". Next will be the scattergun sights, and then a surefire forearm later down the road. :cool:

aippi
12-25-2009, 15:18
Mofeen, take my advice on the XS Big Dot. You asked about a Tritium bead for your wepaon and that is the best one. All these other responses had nothing to do with your question and GR's have no place on a fighting shotgun but are fine for recreational shooters. I don't want to start a GR -v- all other sights in the world thread but you started on the right track and don't let others knock you off the tracks. Big Dot XS for your Remington Tactical.

Fireman1291
12-25-2009, 15:22
Mofeen, take my advice on the XS Big Dot. You asked about a Tritium bead for your wepaon and that is the best one. All these other responses had nothing to do with your question and GR's have no place on a fighting shotgun but are fine for recreational shooters. I don't want to start a GR -v- all other sights in the world thread but you started on the right track and don't let others knock you off the tracks. Big Dot XS for your Remington Tactical.

What height ladder do you use? To get up on your horse?:upeyes:

Mofeen
12-26-2009, 06:35
Mofeen, take my advice on the XS Big Dot. You asked about a Tritium bead for your wepaon and that is the best one. All these other responses had nothing to do with your question and GR's have no place on a fighting shotgun but are fine for recreational shooters. I don't want to start a GR -v- all other sights in the world thread but you started on the right track and don't let others knock you off the tracks. Big Dot XS for your Remington Tactical.

Already on order from XS! Can't wait to test it out. I took your advice on the sling thread that you commented on a few weeks back. Got my Rocky Mountain Tactical Summit and I love it (not for HD though!). Thanks so much again.

Glockdude1
12-26-2009, 15:23
Here is my 870 with the new forearm.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2zfubrt.jpg

:cool:

aippi
12-26-2009, 16:05
Cool beans. You are building a fighting shotgun and have avoided the pitfalls of "Tacti-cool" or as I call it "Tacti-fool.

Hey, fireman. I don't use a ladder to get on my horse. He bows down in my presence and I climb on.

silversport
12-26-2009, 18:11
I have read JD's responses on this Forum and elsewhere...a man who has his own company making fighting shotguns from the Remington 870...I have read his answers to many people who look to the errornet to get approval or answers to what they think they want on a shotgun...

...I see that aippi gives straight, honest answers to these questions...he will tell you what you need according to his experience but it is an experience shared by many who know...can you add a lot of fluff to a shotgun...sure but JD doesn't recommend it...

...looking at posts here and elsewhere your shotgun should have lights, strobes, GPS, slings, bayonets, sophisticated targeting systems and 19 shot magazines...JD just says, get an 870 (any model will do) keep the barrel short and get a bead for HD...slings need not apply...

...JD's advice seems to cost him money but he gives it anyway...take a look at his site...he has all sorts of answers there for the looking and learning (if you are so inclined) free of charge...heed it or don't...your choice...

...I find guys who are knowledgeable, who give advice, born of life experience that give the advice even though it won't help his bottom line honorable and appreciate it...Thanks JD and those like you...damn few left... :patriot:

Bill

aippi
12-27-2009, 22:04
Silversport, thank you for the compliments. Even my own employees tell me I need to shut up and learn to make money and my lady friend just shakes her head when she hears me on the phone talking some guy out of GR's for his home defense weapon he wants me to build. I make $40 just to install them and it takes me about 15 minutes. I don't mind doing it for recreational shooters and shotguns that are just for showing off at the range, but on an HD, hell no.

I get beat down sometimes by the Tacti-fool callers who want a lot of mess and I often just tell them I can't build them a weapon.

Hearing that somone understands what these weapons are turely for goes a long way to keep me on track. Thanks, and yell if you ever need anything Remington.

rustythebailiff
12-28-2009, 10:41
I'm sold on the XS Big Dot for my 870, but I want to make sure I install it correctly. Aippi said to rough up the finish on the barrel and sight, down to the metal. The barrel I have is parkerized (a Rem 18 1/2 ImpCyl, actually purchased from AI&P). Do I take the parkerizing on the barrel down to the metal, or will it be rough and strong enough to take the epoxy itself?

Thanks for the input, definately lots of experience here. Gonna enjoy being a member.

Rusty

silversport
12-29-2009, 04:59
you are welcome...thanks for helping us out...
Bill

rustythebailiff
12-29-2009, 08:07
aippi, in reference to roughing up the barrel and sight base to mount the XS, I have a parkerized barrel with the elevated bead. Should I polish the parkerizing down also, so there will be metal to metal contact?

Thanks for the input, it helped me make a decision on the correct front sight for my Express.

Rusty

aippi
12-29-2009, 16:15
aippi, in reference to roughing up the barrel and sight base to mount the XS, I have a parkerized barrel with the elevated bead. Should I polish the parkerizing down also, so there will be metal to metal contact?

Thanks for the input, it helped me make a decision on the correct front sight for my Express.

Rusty

Yes, I place the Big Dot on the ramp and outline it with pencil then remove it and scape all the finish off inside the pencil line. I just put 4 on some Michigan state Police 870 for them and I used that new Loc-tite 380 Black Max adhesive. So MSP will be the test weapons and if those Big Dots can survive those cops banging the hell out of them for a few months, I know the Loc-tite will work.

When I install the Trijicon front site I do the same thing but use a dremil to remove the area inside the pencil lines since the area is so large. I then use my blast cabinet to remove the finish from the base of the sight I am going to install. I use the epoxy that comes with the sights. I have done dozens of these and have never had one come off or I am sure the client would have called to complain.

cmspeedy
12-29-2009, 16:17
rusty I didn't rough up mine and I have never had a problem. JB weld is serious stuff - I use it at work all the time. I would need vice grips to remove mine - if I even could. You don't need much epoxy - don't overdo it.

I love my xs Big Dot front beads. Great home defense setup IMO.

cmspeedy
12-29-2009, 16:24
aippi is that Black Max going to hold up under heat? I saw it recently and was wondering how it was working in the field. I think an epoxy would give him strength at higher temperatures, but I'm not sure.

Mofeen
12-29-2009, 17:26
What is the best epoxy or loc tite to use if I would like to take the bead off someday (ie. Replace the bead when the tritium is spent)?

aippi
12-29-2009, 22:29
If a bunch of Michigan State Cops don't come by the shop and kick my tail then I will say the Black Max Adhesive worked. These where the first weapons I used on so they will be the crash dummies.

I have no idea how to take one off. I am old an will be out of business before the tritium goes dim.

David Armstrong
12-29-2009, 23:02
I know it is a bit of a shift, but:
I have XS sights on one of my shotguns (in fact, it is the shotgun/sights set-up that Ashley Emerson used to develop and fine tune the shotgun express sight) and I like it a lot. However, as I've gotten older and my eyes have gotten poorer, I find the light pipe style of sights, such as from HiViz, to be better for me. Given the low cost that might be worth looking into for some. As for teh extras, I subscribe to the simple is better school of thought. Put a sling on the gun, maybe a small mag extension, and it is ready to use.

Mofeen
05-13-2010, 16:20
What is the best epoxy or loc tite to use if I would like to take the bead off someday (ie. Replace the bead when the tritium is spent)?

Well, to answer my own question: I finally got around to installing the sight and testing it out in the field. JB Weld does the job handsomely. It is very easy to clean up the excess. Consequently, it is actually what XS recommends. Go figure. Cheers!

SarcoBlaster
05-14-2010, 00:54
What height ladder do you use? To get up on your horse?:upeyes:
Do yourself a favor and put that arrogant ****** on your ignore list.

aippi
05-14-2010, 10:57
No need, none of that bothers me as I can't not be insulted nor belitted as I have been married four times.

Bullman
05-15-2010, 04:40
I have really liked the Truglo TFO sights I have on my work pistols and I have considered getting a Truglo TFO bead for the new Mossberg 930 that I got. I don't know how hard it is to install and I haven't had any money to play with lately so....... aippi have you ever messed with these or heard anything good or bad.

aippi
05-15-2010, 12:03
I have never installed any of the truglow stuff.

Bullman
05-15-2010, 17:34
I thought it was worth a shot to ask. Guess I will just have to venture into the unknown on this one.

Mofeen
05-20-2010, 19:11
Update: Not a bad sight, but the tritium glow is not all that impressive. I would have thought that it would have been better. Anyone else notice this, or is mine defective?

GenoTac Ind.
05-20-2010, 19:30
Crap. Mine is the new 870 HD's that come with the speedfeed forearm, I would have given you my old one for the cost of shipping as I just ordered the shorty Houge stock/forearm set.:dunno:

I ordered the Mesa tactical 6 rd holder and the houge stock set that shortens the length of pull by 2". Next will be the scattergun sights, and then a surefire forearm later down the road. :cool:

Wow!!! When did the FD start using 870's? I'm in SRT and my 870 is not even that fancy! All I got are bead on pedestal, Knoxx recoil reducing stock, and a cheapo TacStar 6 shell holder...:tongueout:

What height ladder do you use? To get up on your horse?

I bet JD has more experience in building firearms long before your parents even knew you were coming...

That's the problem with younger "professionals" nowadays...they get a uniform and think they need a ladder to get on their horse...





damn firemen, just cause they put hot stuff out doesn't mean they are hot...:whistling:

Edmo01
05-22-2010, 09:45
I'm all for the tritium sights and have them on several defensive weapons. I have a XS Big Dot on a Glock 23 and love it. That dot is BIG and the sights are quick to aquire and align.

I have a Mossberg 500 ready for use, but it isn't my primary defensive weapon for an encounter in the dark. Because of this I was contemplating installing a simple white bead to replace the dull, brass colored bead and thought I would try a different twist.

I picked up a bottle of gloss white model paint and after prepping it I applied several coats to the existing bead and for less than $5 I have a bright white "big dot" on the front of my 500.

Glow in the dark? No, but quicker to pick up when there is any available ambient light. This is just a quick, cheap fix that may be all you want for your shotgun. OBTW, you will have enough touch up paint in that one little bottle to last a lifetime.

What about a total dark encounter in Edmo's house? With a teenager in the house, I have to use some source of illumination to determine if someone is a threat, family member, or one of their friends. A tritium sight just doesn't put out that much light! However, with a handheld light complimenting one of my night sight pistols I can identify friend or foe without pointing a weapon at them.

White paint, just another option...

Edmo