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betyourlife
12-23-2009, 18:19
Checking up on this again. Inquirying minds want to know...

robin303
12-23-2009, 18:28
I have 20 15 rnd KCI's and never had a problem.

TheRogue
12-23-2009, 19:24
The KCI G17 & G19 mags are still working great.
The KHAN 33rd. magazines are holding up too...

I just got the 31 rd. .40 S&W "Victory" brand magazine, so haven't yet had a chance to try it.

robertwh
12-23-2009, 21:07
I have 20 15 rnd KCI's and never had a problem.

That is quite an endorsement. I have one... I will hopefully get to try it tomorrow...:cool:

cole
12-23-2009, 21:37
My 6,000+ round review (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11959098&postcount=18).

Glock 17L
12-23-2009, 21:38
I too have thought about getting some of the Korean 33rd 9mm magazines..
Quite a bitt cheaper than the OE G18 magazines..
I'll have to give them a try..
Gary

CTM_357
12-23-2009, 22:38
all of mine are great

raw6464
12-24-2009, 07:01
Ditto on the no problems... KCI 17 rounders. Their "finish" is not as good as Glocks but doesn't affect the functionality. I got 2 mags with a free dual mag carriers for $28 from www.widners.com (http://www.widners.com)

HighwayStarPP
12-24-2009, 07:25
i would totally choose the victory over the scherer, i have both the 30+ rd mags in 40sw, and my victory has had 1FTF vs the scherers 8+ FTF. :steamed:

Glock 17L
12-24-2009, 08:26
Centerfire Systems in Kentucky has the Korean Magazines at great prices
here's the Link.. http://www.centerfiresystems.com/glock_mags.aspx
My Buddy was there yesterday & bought a Dragonov @ a Killer Price..
Wish I would have known, I would have had him pick me up some of these magazines
Gary

Richard Simmons
12-24-2009, 10:36
My Kahn G17 and G18 mags (drop free) all function flawlessly. Even accidently dropped a loaded 33rd mag from waist high onto a hardwood floor. Nothing happened. No damage, no cartridges spraying out the top, no floorplate popping off, nothing.

KS_Pyro
12-24-2009, 11:08
Copes has them for $11.99 each right now. Just got 4 in. Haven't had a chance to take them out of the wrappers yet though.


Dave

Peter95
12-24-2009, 11:31
i dont have one, but i have only heard good stuff about them.

greatwun
12-24-2009, 12:42
i dont have one, but i have only heard good stuff about them.

same here

frankt
12-24-2009, 19:50
I have four KCI G19 mags that I have been using at the range in both the 19 and a G26.

I have never had any problems at all with them and I am doing drills that cause them to get dropped in the gravel and dirt.

I honestly can't tell them apart from the Glock mags and I believe I payed $9 bucks apiece for them.

Gallium
01-02-2010, 16:34
Ditto on the no problems... KCI 17 rounders. Their "finish" is not as good as Glocks but doesn't affect the functionality. I got 2 mags with a free dual mag carriers for $28 from www.widners.com (http://www.widners.com)

Your profile says you are in NY. Are you LE?


'Drew
:cool:

crzn01
01-02-2010, 19:55
Bought 3 40 S&W 31 rd mags from Centerfire & have had no problems so far.......

Super G23
01-02-2010, 20:12
Good for practice but not for critical situation.

onelowtruck69
01-02-2010, 20:18
I have a 33rnd mag thats worked great,one day it did cause one failure to feed in maybe 500 rounds. It was the last of several mags i fired back to back as fast as i possibly could just to see what she could do! well worth the $20 bucks.gunna grab a couple 15 rounders next chance out.

arclight610
01-02-2010, 21:35
Korean made is definatly not the same as Chinese made, that's for sure. I only have one KCI mag. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but it feeds fine and I can't tell the factory from it from a distance.

Doug01
01-06-2010, 08:57
Is there a difference between the KCI and Kahn mags?

Doug

TheLastDaze
01-06-2010, 11:37
OK, I sign onto GlockTalk and do a search for 'Victory Mags' and this thread pops up... I wanted opinions on the Victory mags, as I intend to buy 3 right now as I type this....


OK here we go, just bought 3 33rd Victory Mags, they're guaranteed to be 100% as reliable as Glock and to be honest I cannot see any difference other then the Glock logo..

I'll post a review/reply after I've dumped a couple mags..

EDIT: Just to add, I paid $15ea for 33rd mags, also 10% off, with shipping 3 mags total for $55. I won't post where I got them til I try them for myself..

Rob

TheLastDaze
01-11-2010, 22:46
Got my victory mags in today.. OUTSTANDING quality...... Will test them out tomorrow..

MarcusT
01-12-2010, 04:50
I'm not sure who makes them but the korean made 33 round mags that centerfire systems sells are junk. I bought two of them and had at least 10 ftf out of each mag its like the spring isn't strong enough to push the bullets up.

Gallium
01-12-2010, 04:53
I'm not sure who makes them but the korean made 33 round mags that centerfire systems sells are junk. I bought two of them and had at least 10 ftf out of each mag its like the spring isn't strong enough to push the bullets up.

what bullets?

kemet1953
01-12-2010, 08:44
I found that the springs are not of good quality and it do not push up on the follower in order to hold the slide back. The last round is fired and the slide will close, some will think that there may be another round in the chamber but there will not be unless you count your rounds to know for sure. I believe that these mags are only good for training and not for personal defense.

The slide will not stay back when the last round is fired. If you want to take that chance? Well! I have found this same mis function on 15 KCI magazines tested both for the Glock 19 and the Glock 17 KCI magazines.

Good Luck,

freespirit34
01-12-2010, 08:54
Got 2 for the 17. No problems with either of them.

kemet1953
01-12-2010, 09:17
My experience with the KCI magazines are as follow: I have tested 20 KCI magazines and of the 20 tested I had the same malfunction. Magazines tested were KCI for the Glock 17 and the Glock 19.

15 of the 20 had the same malfunction.

After the last round is fired the slide will not stay in the most rear position. The magazine springs are a very poor quailty and are not durable enough to hold tention against the follower in order to hold the slide back after the last round is fired.

I recommend that until the springs are replaced by KCI, that the use for these magazines should be for training only and not for personal protection.

Good luck to thoses that think otherwise.

Rikki
01-12-2010, 19:41
It ain't like I got $ to throw away, but I'm only puttin' real Glock stuff in that mag hole.
I'm gonna "dance with the one that brung me".
I'm gonna support Glock, not some knock off company.
There ARE parts not made by Glock I'll use, but they are few and far between.

bharen
01-12-2010, 20:04
With factory Glock magazines available just about everywhere for about $20 each why bother with knock-offs?

TheLastDaze
01-14-2010, 13:21
OK, I've just tried out my 33rd 'Victory' mags.. WOW!!! flawless, side by side they look just like the Glock mags with the exception of a small crease in the side of the mag from molding and of course no 'glock' logo, other then that IDENTICAL stampings, metal linings etc. Outstanding quality finish, spring seems very durable although I haven't taken it apart to compare springs. After loading around 30 rounds the last 3 were a little more difficult. You can load the first 15 by hand with some effort after that you need a speed loader. I had no hiccups at all, I would recommend the Victory mags to anyone who wants hi capacity mags, I bought (3) 33rounders for $15 each compared to Glocks at $45 each, 3 for 1. I'm so impressed with the quality of these mags compared to pro-mag, or kci that I may even buy 15 and 17 rounders if the price is reasonable. I found these mags at ****** Tactical ( sponsor here) they only have them in 33 rds.. Again I'd like to get my hands on some 17's, as I'm sure the fit and finish is the same quality. 33rds is a little excessive but fun to play with and good to know I have them if I ever need them if the sky starts falling...

TheLastDaze
01-14-2010, 13:25
With factory Glock magazines available just about everywhere for about $20 each why bother with knock-offs?

If I could buy 'Factory' 33rounders for $20 I'd be all over that!!

I'd like to know where you can buy Glock mags for $20? Lowest I've seen is about $23 and that's only at one place so far.

rube12345
01-19-2010, 11:23
At a shoot last evening I had the baseplate on a Korean mag break.
I ejected the mag with 2 rounds left in it onto a concrete floor at an unheated range and the base plate fractured. The spring shot out and the two rounds spilled out.

I have been running Korean model 17 mags (not sure if Kahn or the other brand as they are not marked with a brand) for a while and have had no problems with feeding. I did swap out to factory glock springs in a couple of them just to try that combo. The one that broke did have a factory glock spring that I bought from Numrich. No failures to feed yet. The mags do seem hard to load at first but the springs do seem to wear in and loading becomes easier.

I'm going to see if stock glock baseplates fit and maybe try running those. None of the glock mags, or the other Korean I was using last night fractured with the same treatment.

rube

cciman
01-19-2010, 21:17
Korean Mag springs lasted me through 4 days of tactical school, after which, slide would not stay open on empty mag (not enough pressure to push the slide stop up). Mag springs then are very much shortened when removed.

I have yet to wear out a Glock mag.

Replace worn springs with Wolf gunspring replacements at ~$5/ea. + shipping and you are just shy of the cost of one Glock factory mag, which last a whole lot longer.

Springs in the "korean" mags were visually much weaker than the Glock or Wolf springs.

Dave Davis
01-24-2010, 12:45
I got 10 KCI mags for my G19 last week and all feed great.. I just ordered 10 more from 44 Mag a sponsor at the top of this page. $9.99 each. Maybe Im sick for getting so many mags , but I just can't pass them up

TheLastDaze
01-25-2010, 21:10
I got 10 KCI mags for my G19 last week and all feed great.. I just ordered 10 more from 44 Mag a sponsor at the top of this page. $9.99 each. Maybe Im sick for getting so many mags , but I just can't pass them up

now you just need another Glock 9mm to your collection..:supergrin: to catch up with all your mags.

bigpatvoodoodad
01-29-2010, 19:38
Bought a KCI 31 rounder for my Glock 22. Ran it with 30. I had several failure to feeds. When I reloaded it and tried again there were more failure to feeds. This thing will now be a paperweight. I ran Federal 180 gr ammo I picked up at Walmart.

LRB2GZ
01-30-2010, 01:59
My 2 Khans for my 17 have been flawless. I think I'll buy 3 19 Khan mags to use with my 23 and conversion barrel.


With factory Glock magazines available just about everywhere for about $20 each why bother with knock-offs?

Because for $5 more you can have 2 more Korean mags. Thats less time reloading at the range, more time shooting, and more money for ammo.

redmanlives
02-07-2010, 20:22
I got another bunch in Friday ,I already have 5 that work great in my G19. For $9.98 you can't go wrong..

Fanner50
02-11-2010, 15:17
It ain't like I got $ to throw away, but I'm only puttin' real Glock stuff in that mag hole.
I'm gonna "dance with the one that brung me".
I'm gonna support Glock, not some knock off company.
There ARE parts not made by Glock I'll use, but they are few and far between.

Same here. I think my seven 33 round GLOCK magazines average about $23.00 each. That was a couple of years ago and they were on sale, but still, that's what I paid for them. I only use Glock mags in my Glocks. I don't have to wonder if they are going to work or not.

bladenbullet
02-17-2010, 18:44
If I could buy 'Factory' 33rounders for $20 I'd be all over that!!

I'd like to know where you can buy Glock mags for $20? Lowest I've seen is about $23 and that's only at one place so far.

http://www.******tactical.com/glockmagazines.html

betyourlife
03-01-2010, 23:05
I bought a lot of mine for $7 each brand new. Consider I got three times as many mags as a factory Glock magazine for the same price, I came out ahead. Same with the $16 33rd mags I paid.

Now I have plenty of factory mags of all sizes, but these make excellent training mags if nothing else. Heck, from what I've seen, and my own personal experience with them, I wouldn't hesitate to use them for carry.

kemet1953
03-02-2010, 08:32
Mines are doing great with the Glock springs in them. Other wise they are a piece of ****.

loltom
03-04-2010, 20:43
my two 15rd .40 KCI mags came in today, and from now on i will never buy any other mags than GLOCK. I know im a newbie to glocks/firearms in general, but first look at the mags you can tell they are defiantly not of good as quality as glock. And i was expecting this cause they were only 9 bucks a pop, so it didnt bother me.

The problem is that one of the two magazines you have to basically SHOVE it into the gun and have to yank it out to get the mag out. Also, in both of them loading them past 11 for me was dam near impossible, i will probably have a blister on my thumb tomorrow lol. Just pressing down on the spring will cause the plate?(not sure of its name) to get stuck. I have a GLOCK 15 round mag so i tried swapping the springs out into the KCI mag, it helped a little. I was able to get all 15 rounds into the magazine, not easily though. It took me probably three times longer to load the KCI than the GLOCK mag. Even with the GLOCK spring in, the rounds would still get stuck when i tried to push them out with my thumb. i don't have this problem at all with the GLOCK mag.

I have not brought these magazines to the range yet and i don't think i will ever will, they will probably go in the trash. I wouldn't trust these at all for concealed carry due to possibility of a fail to fire or jam. and that's my .02 cents

kemet1953
03-04-2010, 20:56
Maybe you just may want to try the Glock 18 springs in them it just may work never can tell. Other wise KCI is Junk! The only exception if used in training only.

Shaolin
03-07-2010, 13:27
Is there a difference between the KCI and Kahn mags?

Doug

Nope the same.... Those Korean AK mags are great too!

Glockdomination
03-08-2010, 18:16
I got to try some of these.

Shaolin
03-08-2010, 18:28
I got to try some of these.

44mag.com and militarygunsupply.com have them for 10 bucks a piece. so stock up before the price goes up...

ARMEDPILOT
03-10-2010, 15:11
I just installed and tested a KKM 40- 9mm conversion barrel in a G23, along with 4 KCI 15 rd 9 mm mags. The first 60 rounds were flawless. However the next 60 rounds I encountered 6 "stovepipes". I used the 4 KCIs in my G26 without problems a few weeks ago. No, i didn't install a 9mm ejector in the G23. That may be an option next. However, It will be with Glock OEM mags, not with 4 nockoffs which are in a 55 gallon trash can at the range. To be fair, they may work better in a 9mm Glock G19, but, I don't plan to buy one to see that happen. :whistling::dunno:As a note, I have used Khan 17 rounders in my G24 with a KKM 40- 9mm conversion barrel .40 ejector and did not have a problem . Will report any further tests.

Murgatroy
03-17-2010, 21:43
I bought four KCI mags. They came in today.

I have not fired them yet, however, I did load them all and feed them through my 19 to ensure they would all feed.

All four fed. No issues, the slide locked at empty.

I will get to the range this weekend and try them out.

IMO even of the springs go out and I have to replace the springs with Wolf @ $5 a piece, the mags cost me $7, so for a total investment of $12 a mag to be reliable, that is still half the cost of a Glock magazine.

However, with all that said, I will only carry my Glock mags. The KCIs are for the range and training. IMO if they do fail to feed, it is good practice. ;)

Buzzo
03-17-2010, 22:10
I ordered 2 G17 and 2 G19 Mags. When I first got them the one thing that kind of worried me was how hard it was to feed ammo into them once they're close to being full. They also didn't feel as 'smooth' as the factory mags when feeding. I did have one out of the four have a couple rounds pop out after setting fulling loaded on the self.

All and all I feel they're great mags. I didn't have one problem at the range with any of them. I feel they're a great value, and I would order again.

Njanear
03-20-2010, 21:11
In case anyone was interested in trying these out (as I am), CDNN has a couple of deals running for the Korean G17, G19 & G22 mags. It shows 2 mags & mag pouch for $14.99: http://www.cdnninvestments.com/specials.html

Shipping this weekend is only $5.99, if that makes it better.

To boot, they have the Glock mags going for $19.99 each (too bad there are no G20s there though, which is what I was looking for).

bulldog18
03-24-2010, 18:15
I've shot more rounds through my Korean mags than my mags that were made in Austria. My Korean Mags Kick *****. No miss-feeds, jams, or cracked/chipped magazines. I sold all my Austria mags and purchased more ammo for the range.

Now if PMAG started making magazines for my Glock and my Ruger 10/22...I would be in MAG HEAVEN:tongueout:

Murgatroy
03-26-2010, 22:07
I bought four KCI mags. They came in today.

I have not fired them yet, however, I did load them all and feed them through my 19 to ensure they would all feed.

All four fed. No issues, the slide locked at empty.

I will get to the range this weekend and try them out.

IMO even of the springs go out and I have to replace the springs with Wolf @ $5 a piece, the mags cost me $7, so for a total investment of $12 a mag to be reliable, that is still half the cost of a Glock magazine.

However, with all that said, I will only carry my Glock mags. The KCIs are for the range and training. IMO if they do fail to feed, it is good practice. ;)
I made it to the range today, and the KCI mags worked flawless. Frankly I couldn't tell the difference from the Glock magazines. I was more than impressed, and I ran each mag through at least two full cycles. I left them loaded from the night I bought them, which would be ~2 weeks ago, to today. No difficulties reloading.

The ONLY issue I did have, and it was more of a surprise than an issue. When dumping an empty and seating a full, the KCI mags seemed to release my slide and return it to battery. I didn't have this issue with the Glock mags, and it only happened a few times. This wasn't a problem exactly, but I was trying to acclimate myself to working the slide to chamber from a fresh magazine as opposed to using the slide release.

BHP9
03-27-2010, 06:47
I made it to the range today, and the KCI mags worked flawless. Frankly I couldn't tell the difference from the Glock magazines. I was more than impressed, and I ran each mag through at least two full cycles. I left them loaded from the night I bought them, which would be ~2 weeks ago, to today. No difficulties reloading.

The ONLY issue I did have, and it was more of a surprise than an issue. When dumping an empty and seating a full, the KCI mags seemed to release my slide and return it to battery. I didn't have this issue with the Glock mags, and it only happened a few times. This wasn't a problem exactly, but I was trying to acclimate myself to working the slide to chamber from a fresh magazine as opposed to using the slide release.


This is very common. I can do that with factory mags on my G17 & G35. A lot of IPSC/IDPA shooters rely on that, I don't because of Mr. Murphy.

bulldog18
03-27-2010, 10:46
I made it to the range today, and the KCI mags worked flawless. Frankly I couldn't tell the difference from the Glock magazines. I was more than impressed, and I ran each mag through at least two full cycles. I left them loaded from the night I bought them, which would be ~2 weeks ago, to today. No difficulties reloading.

The ONLY issue I did have, and it was more of a surprise than an issue. When dumping an empty and seating a full, the KCI mags seemed to release my slide and return it to battery. I didn't have this issue with the Glock mags, and it only happened a few times. This wasn't a problem exactly, but I was trying to acclimate myself to working the slide to chamber from a fresh magazine as opposed to using the slide release.


This is very common. I can do that with factory mags on my G17 & G35. A lot of IPSC/IDPA shooters rely on that, I don't because of Mr. Murphy.

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BHP9
03-27-2010, 10:59
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See enclosed link to fix this http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1198861

No issue.

I have had my Glocks since new and they did it from day one.

FiftyCalAl
06-13-2010, 14:23
Nope the same.... Those Korean AK mags are great too!

are you saying the KCI and the KAHN are manufactured by the same folks and are the same mags?>

betyourlife
06-13-2010, 14:30
are you saying the KCI and the KAHN are manufactured by the same folks and are the same mags?>

I keep reading this, but I don't believe it. The polymer on the two feels different, with the KCI being VERY smooth.

Also, what would be the purpose of two different names if they are made by the same company?

DRGNSLR
06-17-2010, 16:36
FWIW: I've had two of these in G17 flavor that I've used mostly for "range" use only. Felt very confident in their performance after a while so I loaded them up with 16 rounds each to use as "back-up" to my "back-up" to my "back-up" mags.

Went to rotate some of my ammo last night and discovered that after only three weeks in the gun safe the follower in both mags was somehow hanging up within the mag such that after removing 2-3 rounds I had to bang the magazine on my bench fairly sharply to get the follower to release and push the remaining rounds up to the mouth of the magazine. :shocked:

Back to range only use for these dogs. I have 20 Glock mags so it's not that big of a deal but I wouldn't buy them again.

branned
01-16-2011, 14:12
My KCI mags work flawless. I couldn't tell the difference from the Glock magazines except the logo. I use my $5.99 KCI Glock mags at the range and my $20 Glock for carry.

KCI makes Glock 21 (27rd mags) and Glock 22 (31rd mags) that I do not think Glock makes so good job KCI:cool: