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JoshuaC
01-01-2010, 20:41
After much consideration and a few close calls, I'm finally ready to pick up my first 1911.

I really wouldn't mind a Dan Wesson 1911, but they aren't sold locally. All I can find around here are RIA's (Really appealing) SW's, Kimbers, and some ugly PT1911's. (No offense to those who like them)

I like what the Kimber had to offer, and really wasn't put off by the $850 price point, but I've always heard of sketchy guns coming from them.

So what do you guys have to say about the new Kimbers?

bac1023
01-01-2010, 20:45
Never a problem.

The Custom II is their entry level model and a good gun for the price.


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_2542.jpg

mkmckinley
01-01-2010, 20:48
I had a really good Custom II and I can fully recommend that pistol to anyone looking to get into 1911's without breaking the bank. It had very solid lockup, was unfailingly reliable, and accurate as all get-out.

Brass Nazi
01-01-2010, 20:48
I have had experience with two of them. One was a complete POS that did not work the other was excellent. I will never own another.

JoshuaC
01-01-2010, 20:58
Never a problem.

The Custom II is their entry level model and a good gun for the price.


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_2542.jpg

That's the exact model I'm looking at. The more I read the more I get a little worried. There's some pretty bad Kimber horror stories out there.

I know every manufacturer goes through problems, and that's fine. But have these cleared up?

bac1023
01-01-2010, 21:01
That's the exact model I'm looking at. The more I read the more I get a little worried. There's some pretty bad Kimber horror stories out there.

I know every manufacturer goes through problems, and that's fine. But have these cleared up?

I have two other recent Kimbers and none of them have given me any trouble.




Pro CDP II-which I carry nearly everyday

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_2245.jpg





Super Match II-Kimber's current top of the line model

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_1752.jpg

JK-linux
01-01-2010, 21:02
I'd buy one in a second if they ditched the front serrations.

PHB
01-01-2010, 21:04
If this is your first 1911 I would suggest you get the RIA these guns are a reliable entry level gun and perform very well and for the price you can not go wrong, you may find that a 1911 is not for you this way you are not out a big chunk of change to find that you do not like the platform. I have 2 RIAs one 5" and one Officer model and both perform very well.IMHO

Good luck stay safe

JoshuaC
01-01-2010, 21:05
I personally like the front serrations. I'll let a few more people weigh in, but one way or another I'm gonna be heading home with a 1911 of some make tomorrow, or Monday.

@bac1023, did you keep the plastic MSH on your Kimbers?

bac1023
01-01-2010, 21:09
@bac1023, did you keep the plastic MSH on your Kimbers?

Yes, they aren't an issue.

The Super Match comes with a steel MSH, but it retails over $2K.

Kimber isn't the only 1911 builder to use them. Colt, STI, and some others use them on their less expensive models.

zdragon23c
01-01-2010, 21:11
kimber customII....my all time favorite 1911
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/52dragon/Ebay243.jpg

Glock Swabbie
01-01-2010, 21:14
Never a problem.

The Custom II is their entry level model and a good gun for the price.


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_2542.jpg

Thousands of failure free rounds through my Kimber Custom II, I recently installed some Novak Night Sights... its one of my favorite range plinkin carry guns!
My Custom II loves wilson combat 8 round mags too.

Glock Swabbie
01-01-2010, 21:16
Also.... and I could be wrong, but much of the Kimber problems stemmed from the EXTERNAL extractor models. My custom II has the internal extractor and I think that is why it is so reliable. It eats all kinds of factory and reloads with no probelms. I can also credit my success with this gun to properly breaking in this gun per Kimbers instructions.

JoshuaC
01-01-2010, 21:19
kimber customII....my all time favorite 1911
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/52dragon/Ebay243.jpg

That is absolutely beautiful! If I do end up with the Kimber, I really wouldn't mind putting a set of grips like that on it.

Are the stock Custom 2 grips plain plastic?

zdragon23c
01-01-2010, 21:21
That is absolutely beautiful! If I do end up with the Kimber, I really wouldn't mind putting a set of grips like that on it.

Are the stock Custom 2 grips plain plastic?


Thanks.....
base Kimber comes with factory rubber grips.

JoshuaC
01-01-2010, 21:31
I really enjoy a rubber grip on a handgun. Tough choice!

HAIL CAESAR
01-01-2010, 21:47
The Custom II's should sell in the lower $700's. At 850 your getting stole from.

PlasticGuy
01-01-2010, 22:04
I have had two Series I Kimbers, and three Series II Kimbers. I've never had a problem with any of them. I've also trained with Tacoma PD a bit, and they love their Kimber Pro Carry II's.

I will say that I've always had internal extractor models, and run them almost exclusively with Wilson 47d magazines. That might be a factor in my success. Their external extractor was a bad idea (which is why they don't make them anymore), and a lot of guys use really crappy magazines with predictable results.

JoshuaC
01-01-2010, 22:22
I've been spectating the different 1911 forums and haven't seen any abnormal amounts of complaints about the newer Kimbers being bought. I'll definitely keep the magazine tip in mind when I buy it.

Now I just got to hope my local shop is open tomorrow.

MD357
01-01-2010, 22:37
Do yourself a favor and buy a DW online and have it shipped. MUCH better gun, better fitting and better parts.

zdragon23c
01-01-2010, 22:38
I I'll definitely keep the magazine tip in mind when I buy it.




nothing wrong with the black factory kimber mag...it might just require some tweaking in order to make it run 100%. i had to stone the sharp edges on the feed lips a bit.
Use Kimprotags or buy some Wilson47s and don't look back.

HAIL CAESAR
01-01-2010, 22:42
Do yourself a favor and buy a DW online and have it shipped. MUCH better gun, better fitting and better parts.

I concur, that is what I would do.

PlasticGuy
01-01-2010, 22:44
nothing wrong with the black factory kimber mag...it might just require some tweaking in order to make it run 100%...
If it requires tweaking, there is indeed something wrong with it. That's exactly why I feed my 1911's with Wilson magazines.

HAIL CAESAR
01-01-2010, 22:46
If it requires tweaking, there is indeed something wrong with it. That's exactly why I feed my 1911's with Wilson magazines.

If a gun only works with WC mags there is something wrong with the gun.

JoshuaC
01-01-2010, 22:57
Do yourself a favor and buy a DW online and have it shipped. MUCH better gun, better fitting and better parts.

I really really like the looks and specs of the Dan Wesson, but I don't the idea of ordering online, and I don't want to be spending over $1000 for my first 1911.

Being as there's only a few gun shops here in this town I've come to expect a little mark up here and there. Where I might spend a little more, I can get it right there, and with shipping and the transfer fee I'd only be saving $50 or so.

MD357
01-01-2010, 23:20
I really really like the looks and specs of the Dan Wesson, but I don't the idea of ordering online, and I don't want to be spending over $1000 for my first 1911.

Alrighty then, but there's not much difference between $850 and $1000 considering theres better fitting, no mim, a real MSH etc. The difference between a Dan Wesson and Kimber is signficant.

If you're worried you might not like the platform them someone suggested an RIA which would be the way to go to feel them out.

den888
01-01-2010, 23:28
I have never owned a Kimber, but like the Gold Match models.

Rimcrew
01-01-2010, 23:28
You might want to give a DW one last thought. You can get a Heritage shipped for around $925.

I have several Kimbers, old and new, and while I have not had a problem with any of them, I will not be buying any more. DW makes a much better gun and it is a far better value than the Kimbers. I will also go out on a limb and say that should you decide to sell, you should be able to break even with the DW. Not so much with a Kimber.

JoshuaC
01-02-2010, 00:01
Again I'd really like to get the DW, but it's a little out of the range of what I want to spend, and I can't find them locally.

I really don't have too much of an issue with plastic or MIM.

Rimcrew
01-02-2010, 00:21
Joshua - I just noticed that you are in Casa Grande. I live in Mesa and would be glad to let you shoot, and generally compare, a few Kimbers to a few DW's. I think you might change your mind one you get to see them side-by-side.

Just trying to help a shooting brother not make a bad mistake! :supergrin:

MD357
01-02-2010, 00:31
I really don't have too much of an issue with plastic or MIM.

Kinda hard to have an issue when you've yet to pick up your first 1911. :cool:

Seems you've already made up your mind.

:cheers:

JoshuaC
01-02-2010, 00:38
Kinda hard to have an issue when you've yet to pick up your first 1911. :cool:

Seems you've already made up your mind.

:cheers:

I know what it's all about, I know the drawbacks, the ones who feel it's fine, and the others who don't like it.

@Rimcrew Thanks very much for the offer, but things are busy around here and I have no idea when I'll be making it to the range next.

MD357
01-02-2010, 01:01
I know what it's all about, I know the drawbacks, the ones who feel it's fine, and the others who don't like it.

Interesting.....

So what do you think Kimber told one of the local 1911 newbies here after this happened after a few hundred rounds?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/JD8/IMG_0688.jpg

mikegun
01-02-2010, 01:05
If a gun only works with WC mags there is something wrong with the gun.

Hail is so right in his post above, also i have owned several kimbers with ext extractors and never had a problem with any of them...

mikegun
01-02-2010, 01:17
If a gun only works with WC mags there is something wrong with the gun.

Hail is so right in his post above, also i have owned several kimbers with ext extractors and never had a problem with any of them...lets not forget TACOMA pd tester 30 some odd guns and the only ones that passed the tests were Kimbers, both alum frame and steel frame, as an option they can carry glocks if they wish, that has to tell u something...kimber makes a good pistol..imho

PlasticGuy
01-02-2010, 01:24
If a gun only works with WC mags there is something wrong with the gun.
I never said my Kimbers only work with Wilsons. I did say that a good 1911 deserves good magazines that don't require "tweaking". Wilson is the brand I use the most, but McCormick, Novak, and a few others work well also. Pick your favorite.

Rimcrew
01-02-2010, 01:24
Interesting.....

So what do you think Kimber told one of the local 1911 newbies here after this happened after a few hundred rounds?



To file off the sharp edges, and keep shooting? :rofl:

bac1023
01-02-2010, 04:53
Are the stock Custom 2 grips plain plastic?

They're rubber.

JoshuaC
01-02-2010, 07:18
Interesting.....

So what do you think Kimber told one of the local 1911 newbies here after this happened after a few hundred rounds?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/JD8/IMG_0688.jpg

What did they end up telling him?

MD357
01-02-2010, 10:06
What did they end up telling him?

They offered to ship him a new hammer. Do you know why this is wrong?


Either way case and point, things can go wrong for sure with all parts mim or otherwise. However, one should consider how a company takes care of you when things go wrong, especially if you are new to 1911s.

JoshuaC
01-02-2010, 10:46
Well after thinking about it I decided I'm gonna head up and grab the RIA GI they have for $450.

I'll be sure to post pics! Thanks everyone.

3rdgen40
01-02-2010, 10:49
Well after thinking about it I decided I'm gonna head up and grab the RIA GI they have for $450.

I'll be sure to post pics! Thanks everyone.
The RIA's I've seen go for about $379.Just FYI....

JoshuaC
01-02-2010, 11:02
The RIA's I've seen go for about $379.Just FYI....

Small town prices. Not too out of the box for a NIB RIA. Also I like supporting my local shop and don't mind the extra if I can get it same day.

3rdgen40
01-02-2010, 13:07
Small town prices. Not too out of the box for a NIB RIA. Also I like supporting my local shop and don't mind the extra if I can get it same day.
Well, in that case...go get 'er ! :supergrin: I wanna see pics later.:wavey:

bac1023
01-02-2010, 19:28
Well after thinking about it I decided I'm gonna head up and grab the RIA GI they have for $450.

I'll be sure to post pics! Thanks everyone.

Josh, that's a bit expensive for one, but its a nice choice either way.


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_2039.jpg

Ruggles
01-02-2010, 19:51
Enjoy your new 1911. If you eventually want the Kimber you can get it latter. Or the DW, both are great 1911s. You will find folks who prefer Kimber over DW and vice versa so you will have to decide for yourself on which brand. Glad you have not fallen into the great internet MIM void, it way over hyped on the internet IMO. MIM is not nearly the issue it is made out to be on many places on the net.

JoshuaC
01-02-2010, 21:46
Sadly they had actually sold it nearly a hour before I got there..

bac1023
01-03-2010, 04:58
Sadly they had actually sold it nearly a hour before I got there..

Ouch.

That always sucks. :shocked:

3rdgen40
01-03-2010, 08:20
Sadly they had actually sold it nearly a hour before I got there..
:faint:

Ruggles
01-03-2010, 08:41
Sadly they had actually sold it nearly a hour before I got there..

Oh that does suck. So what direction are you headed in now?

bac1023
01-03-2010, 08:51
Oh that does suck. So what direction are you headed in now?

I say go for the Kimber Custom II. :supergrin:

glock2740
01-03-2010, 09:30
Never had any issues with any of my Kimbers.

JoshuaC
01-03-2010, 11:41
Unfortunately I'm just gonna wait till they get another RIA in stock. They usually stock stuff fairly fast so I'm sure I won't be waiting long.

Ruggles
01-03-2010, 12:11
I say go for the Kimber Custom II. :supergrin:

That is the way I would go as well.

bac1023
01-03-2010, 12:11
Unfortunately I'm just gonna wait till they get another RIA in stock. They usually stock stuff fairly fast so I'm sure I won't be waiting long.

You should check out the STI Spartan.

They're built by the same company who builds RIA, but it uses STI small parts. Its got my vote as the best $650 1911 you can buy.

Its a much better shooter than the RIA, yet uses the same frame.


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_2021.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_2020.jpg