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G30SF/F-250
01-03-2010, 10:43
What a pain in the a**! My first 1911, hopefully I will get used to the disassembly but for now :steamed:

Guess I got spoiled by the Glock.

Got any tips?

Range Rat
01-03-2010, 15:31
Yup, sure do. Keep shooting your Glock. They are a snap to clean and maintain. I have a number of handguns, and I keep coming back to the Big G.

Quack
01-03-2010, 16:03
nah...you just gotta strip it a few times, then it's easy

Eyescream
01-03-2010, 16:21
nah...you just gotta strip it a few times, then it's easy

Yup. It gets easier. Just practice.

Did you do the idiot mark to the frame yet?

GVFlyer
01-03-2010, 16:36
Field stripping becomes second nature after a while. Three decades ago the average GI could do it blindfolded.

Interesting that someone would recommend recreationally shooting your Glock. I have a number of Glocks, but to me they are boring guns - I shoot them just enough to maintain minimal proficiency. By contrast, I select 3 or 4 1911s at least once a week and head for the range.

I reckon that it takes all kind of soldiers to fill the parade field.

GVFlyer
01-03-2010, 16:45
...

Did you do the idiot mark to the frame yet?

For folks that have that problem there is an answer.

http://1911-ispt.com/buy-now.shtml

G30SF/F-250
01-03-2010, 19:10
I put 100 rounds through it today and did a field strip, actually it was 2 attempted field strip and 2 field strip. Im a dumb a** sometimes so please tell me; how do you get the barrel out of the slide? I realized the mistakes I was making before with the strip but I am having a problem with this.

Thank you.

G30SF/F-250
01-03-2010, 19:14
Yup. It gets easier. Just practice.

Did you do the idiot mark to the frame yet?


I know not what you speak of sir.:dunno:

G30SF/F-250
01-03-2010, 19:17
For folks that have that problem there is an answer.

http://1911-ispt.com/buy-now.shtml


I dont have spy ware on this computer, I will have to look at this on break tomorrow at work.

Thank you.:wavey:

Eyescream
01-03-2010, 19:24
I know not what you speak of sir.:dunno:

Ah. I'm not making fun of you or anything.

I'm talking about this scratch on the frame:

http://how-i-did-it.org/1911-project/img/tn_frame_stop_marks.jpg

Most people's first 1911s end up with some version of it. Comes from having trouble getting the slide stop back in, and trying to sneak up on the hole instead of just popping it straight in.

Eyescream
01-03-2010, 19:26
I put 100 rounds through it today and did a field strip, actually it was 2 attempted field strip and 2 field strip. Im a dumb a** sometimes so please tell me; how do you get the barrel out of the slide? I realized the mistakes I was making before with the strip but I am having a problem with this.

Thank you.

This is as useful an animation (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/videos/?action=view&current=DisasseblyAnimationHR.flv) as I've found for figuring out how to disassemble a 1911.

G30SF/F-250
01-03-2010, 19:49
Ah. I'm not making fun of you or anything.

I'm talking about this scratch on the frame:

http://how-i-did-it.org/1911-project/img/tn_frame_stop_marks.jpg

Most people's first 1911s end up with some version of it. Comes from having trouble getting the slide stop back in, and trying to sneak up on the hole instead of just popping it straight in.


I dont have the "idiot mark" yet; but I would have if it wasnt for you and others here at GT. I thank you very much for the info. I was using my knife to push the rod back so I could get the slide lock back in place. I knew this was wrong. Thank you again and I hope this gets easier. The guide rod is also a pain to get back in. It is fine until the last 3/32 of an inch. I am still working on that.

Eyescream
01-03-2010, 20:17
You got the EMP with the full-length guide rod? Those are tricky, and a lot of people don't like them.

That's probably a hard gun to learn on.

The way I take my Spartan (which is a 5" gun with the same kinda guide rod) is to take the whole slide assembly off the frame in one piece first, then I take the guide rod plug and spring out, then I pull the guide rod out from the back instead of through the front (because, if it's a one piece guide rod, the piece that lines it up on the bottom of the barrel won't let it come out the front anyway). Then I take the bushing out, and the barrel come out last.

It goes back together in reverse: barrel, bushing, guide rod in from the back, then the springs and guide rod plug in from the front. Then the slide goes back onto the frame.

MD357
01-03-2010, 20:29
You got the EMP with the full-length guide rod? Those are tricky, and a lot of people don't like them.

EMPs aren't tricky and they use a captured recoil assembly, in which they give you the inserts to make diassembly very easy if you know what you are doing.

Quack
01-03-2010, 20:32
the owners manual has instructions on how to strip the Micro.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?clicktype=1911

ro http://www.stevespages.com/pdf/springfield_1911.pdf

Eyescream
01-03-2010, 20:38
EMPs aren't tricky and they use a captured recoil assembly, in which they give you the inserts to make diassembly very easy if you know what you are doing.

*shrug*

Works for me.

Quack
01-03-2010, 20:51
don't need to use the tool either ;)

GVFlyer
01-03-2010, 21:04
Here's yet another resource for field stripping the 1911.

http://www.coolgunsite.com/disassembly/disassembly.htm

wjv
01-03-2010, 23:27
The SA Micro does NOT disassemble in the same manner as most .45s.

And without the re-assembly tool, it is almost impossible to get it back together.
There is a VERY heavy duty spring that needs to be stuffed into a VERY small frame.

I believe the bushing is also non-standard.

They are great guns. Love mine. When you make a .45 that small, you just don't take a full size gun and shrink it down. There were some basic changes that had to be made to the design to get a .45 of that size to work reliably.

The Pusherman
01-04-2010, 08:23
i disassembled my emp using that little clip. it helps, but the hardest part of reassembling the emp is that plunger--the spring is pretty strong. i had to use tetra grease on the plunger and be very careful not to leave an idiot scratch.

now on my champion operator 1911, that little clip is useless. i do much better without it on that one. the reason being it is much too difficult to get it on that gun. certainly not as easy as the emp. but on my champ operator, the plunger spring is even stronger! :shocked:


those clips wouldn't even be necessary is springfield would use such strong plunger tube springs. i guess they help in lasting a long time though, guess it's a tradeoff. :)

G30SF/F-250
01-04-2010, 09:18
This is as useful an animation (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/videos/?action=view&current=DisasseblyAnimationHR.flv) as I've found for figuring out how to disassemble a 1911.


Thank you very much Eyescream, this is a great help. I never thought about the rod and barrel coming out of the front.:dunno:

3rdgen40
01-04-2010, 10:00
What a pain in the a**! My first 1911, hopefully I will get used to the disassembly but for now :steamed:

Guess I got spoiled by the Glock.

Got any tips?
Google "how to detail strip a 1911".Lots of great how to videos out there.It's not that hard once you do it.Just a lot more parts than Glocks.