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mikegun
01-06-2010, 22:35
On occasion, i have noticed that almost every 1911 ive owned will sometimes extract a shell straight back into my face or head, anybody know what causes this and how to fix it? thanks...

sns3guppy
01-07-2010, 00:51
On occasion, i have noticed that almost every 1911 ive owned will sometimes extract a shell straight back into my face or head, anybody know what causes this and how to fix it?


Yes. Use a better grip. Hold the weapon properly when shooting.

If you find the firearm is escaping from you, especially pointing skyward after you fire, and you have brass hitting your forehead, you're either a) not holding it properly, b) in the wrong place, or c) you need to make an adjustment to your ejector geometry.

Chances are that it's a).

Cobra64
01-07-2010, 02:16
Yes. Use a better grip. Hold the weapon properly when shooting.

If you find the firearm is escaping from you, especially pointing skyward after you fire, and you have brass hitting your forehead, you're either a) not holding it properly, b) in the wrong place, or c) you need to make an adjustment to your ejector geometry.

Chances are that it's a).I agree with your recommendations.

John Kerry had similar issues.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Kerry/kerryshell.jpg

faawrenchbndr
01-07-2010, 05:16
Holy crap,....LIMPWRISTING?! :wow:

Cobra64
01-07-2010, 07:20
Holy crap,....LIMPWRISTING?! :wow:


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Kerry/kerrythrows.jpg . http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Obama/OBAMAPITCHING.jpg


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3rdgen40
01-07-2010, 08:01
Whats a "bullet shell" ? :dunno:

BOGE
01-07-2010, 08:29
Cobra64, your collection of these various limpwristing photos raises serious doubts. :whistling: Just sayin`. :supergrin:


:rofl:

faawrenchbndr
01-07-2010, 08:32
Cobra64, your collection of these various limpwristing photos raises serious doubts. :whistling: Just sayin`. :supergrin:


Yeah,.....that Guy on the right?!:whistling:

Cobra64
01-07-2010, 08:37
Cobra64, your collection of these various limpwristing photos raises serious doubts. :whistling: Just sayin`. :supergrin:
:rofl:Now, now, now I'm just illustrating how queer these dems are. Take a look at Bwaney Fwank and his boy-toy...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Dopey%20Democrats/BarneyFrankBoyfriend.jpg


:rofl:

Cobra64
01-07-2010, 08:39
Whats a "bullet shell" ? :dunno:Dontcha know nuthin'? Bullet shells come from the clip.

bac1023
01-07-2010, 19:39
I agree with your recommendations.

John Kerry had similar issues.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Kerry/kerryshell.jpg

:rofl:

Brass Nazi
01-07-2010, 19:42
At least Kerry didn't shoot his lawyer.

Cobra64
01-07-2010, 19:58
At least Kerry didn't shoot his lawyer.

At the billing rates my lawyer charges, there are times I'd like to shoot him too. :rofl:

Actiually, what Cheney did is not exactly uncommon among fellow field shooters when dogs are flushing birds and you're trying to keep track of a fellow hunter. It happened to ne in the late 1970s.

mikegun
01-07-2010, 23:05
Thanks for all the help, guys, perhaps i can do the same for u sometime.....

Cobra64
01-07-2010, 23:24
Thanks for all the help, guys, perhaps i can do the same for u sometime.....Sorry Mike, we get sidetracked sometimes. Try working on your grip. Are you holding cup 'n saucer, or traditional thumbs forward like this:


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/BrianEnosGrip.jpg . http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/RobLeatham.jpg


My .45 auto Sig P220ST ejects perfectly as shown in this video, and as you can see, I'm working on faster mag changes.

http://s1006.photobucket.com/albums/af185/GunForums/?action=view&current=MagChangeSD.flv

mikegun
01-08-2010, 08:56
Thanks, Cobera, I shot thr 1911s today and watched my grip as some suggested, it cut the number of face strikes considerably, happens more with very rapid fire, so the grip thing is it, i think, as it gets thrown off the faster i shoot....i love that video...

faawrenchbndr
01-08-2010, 09:08
Mike'

You may also try shooting with your strong side thumb OVER
the safety. My shooting improved a great deal when I started doing that.
Follow-up shots improved drastically

sns3guppy
01-08-2010, 10:50
Thanks, Cobera, I shot thr 1911s today and watched my grip as some suggested, it cut the number of face strikes considerably, happens more with very rapid fire, so the grip thing is it, i think, as it gets thrown off the faster i shoot....i love that video...


What is "very rapid fire?" Are you trying to do a magazine dump and fire every round in your weapon as fast as you can?

If you're trying to press the trigger so frequently that you can't assure shot placement, then you're shooting too fast. If you get the first shot off and then fire so rapidly that the rest string upward, you just wasted the rest of your ammunition (unless you simply want to hear something go bang).

Slow down your shooting. If brass is hitting you in the head, you've lost control of the weapon, and you're not controlling your shots. Slow down.

Concentrate on aimed fire, especially with your follow-up shots. This alone will force you to slow down, and you'll stop getting hit in the forehead with brass.

Cobra64
01-08-2010, 11:20
What is "very rapid fire?" Are you trying to do a magazine dump and fire every round in your weapon as fast as you can?

If you're trying to press the trigger so frequently that you can't assure shot placement, then you're shooting too fast. If you get the first shot off and then fire so rapidly that the rest string upward, you just wasted the rest of your ammunition (unless you simply want to hear something go bang).

Slow down your shooting. If brass is hitting you in the head, you've lost control of the weapon, and you're not controlling your shots. Slow down.

Concentrate on aimed fire, especially with your follow-up shots. This alone will force you to slow down, and you'll stop getting hit in the forehead with brass.

I agree. Everyone, myself included, wants to shoot like Todd Jarrett. :)

"Shooting faster = faster misses." :)

I am plastic
01-08-2010, 15:45
How come no one asked if he's left handed? Maybe he's just using the wrong hand! (kidding)

This happens occasionally but not with a 1911.

Cobra64
01-08-2010, 15:59
How come no one asked if he's left handed? Maybe he's just using the wrong hand! (kidding)

This happens occasionally but not with a 1911.

This guy's shooting left handed:

http://s1006.photobucket.com/albums/af185/GunForums/?action=view&current=MagChangeSD.flv

anyplainjoe
01-09-2010, 13:53
On occasion, i have noticed that almost every 1911 ive owned will sometimes extract a shell straight back into my face or head, anybody know what causes this and how to fix it? thanks...

Sometimes the angle of the ejector can be modified to improve this problem. Is this a GI style gun or one with a more opened ejection port?

mikegun
01-09-2010, 21:20
Sometimes the angle of the ejector can be modified to improve this problem. Is this a GI style gun or one with a more opened ejection port?

open ejection port.....kimber

anyplainjoe
01-10-2010, 09:31
Then I recommend having a qualified smith inspect the ejector.

ROGER4314
01-10-2010, 16:09
Also please check the rear end of the ejection port for any brass color and note if the cartridge (bullet shell) mouth is dented. Depending on the load you are using, the recoil spring may need a tiny bit of trimming. On the .45 1911, the recoil spring is NOT one size fits all. That spring is regulated for 230 grain slugs. If you are shooting lighter bullets or loads other than military, that spring may need some modifications.

If needed, about 1/8 of a coil at a time cut off will tune the spring. I keep several springs on hand for this purpose. They cost about $4 at CDNN or spend more for a "Target" or "Combat" spring if you wish.

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