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SFCGrazier
01-08-2010, 17:29
Since I just got amazing feedback from you guys, I thought I might ask some questions that I have been wondering about for a long time. So what is the best ammo for my Glock 23 .40 S&W? I kinda already have a certain set of ammo, but i would like to hear what you guys use. Hey I also saw that some of you guys went to my website. Thank you very much.

Home Defense?

Range time?

Accuracy?

ZRT650
01-08-2010, 17:37
My vote is for 180gr winchester PDX-1. Thats what FBI agents feed their 23's

PEC-Memphis
01-08-2010, 17:48
Home Defense?

Range time?

Accuracy?

Home/Self Defense - Speer Gold Dot, Remington Golden Saber, Cor-Bon (generally the lightest bullet in the caliber and bullet design - my personal choice is the Remington 165 gr. GS) If you want to know the pros/cons, history and development of different designs pick up the book "Street Stoppers". With that said, there are no "magic bullets", good shot placement is the most important factor in handgun defense effectiveness.

Range Time - Your own reloads, UMC, Winchester White box

Accuracy - Generally, any of the above will be as accurate as you are unless you are at longer ranges and are a pretty good shooter - beyond these limitations, you may need to experiment a little.

Fire_Medic
01-08-2010, 17:49
Winchester Ranger- T 180gr HP for SD defense.

Range/practice ammo, I couldn't tell you as I reload my own ammo.

:wavey:

Steel Head
01-08-2010, 17:51
I've always had good results with Al case Blaser 165 & 180 fmj
As for defend the fort stuff there is a lot of options and opinions
Do some searching
As long as it's 180 grains and jhp I wouldn't worry to much
I use Win bonded 180 jhp white box-sorta cheap and a good performer

Hound_dogs_01
01-08-2010, 17:51
I use Ga-arms .40S&W +P 180GR gold dots


Alex

KK40384
01-08-2010, 17:55
For SD/HD I use Doubletap Nosler 135gr and for range whatever is cheapest usually WWB from walmart does the trick for me

texas 48
01-08-2010, 18:23
For carry any DT JHP 135,155,165 or 180 gr 38 dollars and change for box of 50. For range I reload my own when prices we low I bought 1500 rounds of CCI blazer brass. I prefer 165 gr DT golden sabers for SD in my G27 but in my G22 its DT 135 gr Noslers

MarkCO
01-08-2010, 18:25
Moved to CC. Also check out: http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1152373

2nd2none
01-08-2010, 18:26
My vote is for 180gr winchester PDX-1. Thats what FBI agents feed their 23's
I thought they use Gold Dots...

2nd2none
01-08-2010, 18:27
Federal HST's 180 or 165 gr, 2nd choice Gold Dots 180 or 165 gr

crzn01
01-08-2010, 19:24
Federal HST's 180 or 165 gr, 2nd choice Gold Dots 180 or 165 gr

Same here........................

Renceri
01-08-2010, 22:07
155gr hst and 180gr hst for SD for me.and 155gr gold dot.

hotpig
01-08-2010, 23:21
I thought they use Gold Dots...They used to.

DRT
01-09-2010, 04:43
180gr Federal HST
180gr /165 gr Winchester Ranger T series

voyager4520
01-09-2010, 05:05
I'd prefer, in this order:

Federal HST
Ranger T(tie between these top two)
Winchester PDX-1/Bonded Ranger T(same thing, but the 180 Bonded T is loaded hotter)
Hornady TAP FPD or Custom with XTP bullets
Hornady Critical Defense
Speer Gold Dot(tie between this and the Hornady's)
Remington Gold Sabers
Federal Hydra-Shock 155gr

I usually prefer 165gr, but I'll take 180 or 155. With Federal Hydra-Shocks I'll take 155 over 180 any day. I have yet to see any 165gr Critical Defense locally as it's rather new, but it's the hottest stated factory velocity I've seen yet - 1175fps and 506ft/lbs at the muzzle from a 4 inch barrel.

For FMJs I prefer American Eagle or PMC Bronze.

RMTactical
01-09-2010, 05:05
You should be fine with any of the premium loads by the most respected manufacturers. HST, Gold Dot, Golden Sabers, Ranger-T's, they are all good.

I prefer 165gr but 180gr is good too.

Brucev
01-09-2010, 09:06
[quote=SFCGrazier;14505322]Since I just got amazing feedback from you guys, I thought I might ask some questions that I have been wondering about for a long time. So what is the best ammo for my Glock 23 .40 S&W? I kinda already have a certain set of ammo, but i would like to hear what you guys use. Hey I also saw that some of you guys went to my website. Thank you very much.

Home Defense? I am currently using Remington 180 gr. JHP (L40SW2B) purchased in the 100 rd. value pack. It is what I could find locally and I will use it until I can find something better. Hopefully I will be able to find some 155-165 gr. Winchester Ranger T or Federal HST.

Range time? I have been using Federal Champion 180 gr. FMJFN. POI is POA at 15 yds. I have also used Magtech 165 gr. FMJ and Winchester White Box 165 gr. FMJ. With these loads, POI is about 1 inch above POA at 15 yds. Estimate of POI is based on group center and not individual isolated shots fired. All shooting is done from a two-handed standing position.

Accuracy? Firing 10 round groups: Federal 180 gr. FMJ & Winchester 165 gr. FMJ = +/- 2.5 inches at 15 yds. I fired no 10 round groups using the Magtech 165 gr. FMJ. Firing 15 rd. groups: Federal 180 gr. FMJ = +/- 4.0 inches. Magtech and Winchester 165 gr. FMJ = 3.0 inches. Composite 25 rd. groups run 4 inches with both the 180 gr. FMJ and the 165 gr. FMJ ammo. I note fewer fliers (operator error) with the 165 gr. FMJ ammo. I also find the 165 gr. loads to be more pleasant to fire in an extended range session. HTH. Sincerely. Brucev.

Blitzer
01-09-2010, 09:08
CCW = Federal EFMJ
Range = WW white box

Joshhtn
01-09-2010, 09:09
180 HST's for HD/SD

Whatever I can find cheap for the range.

DocKWL
01-09-2010, 09:18
Read THIS (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887) and THIS (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=34714) as well as all of the other articles, choose one, then practice.

SFCGrazier
01-09-2010, 20:41
Hey that was really cool. Thanks for sharing the links. How did you do that?

Eagle22
01-11-2010, 16:51
Federal HST's 180 or 165 gr,

same here.

Federal 180 or 165 FMJs for plinking

accuracy? three quick rounds center of mass at 3, 5 and 7 yards.

FLglockdude
01-11-2010, 17:00
Hey that was really cool. Thanks for sharing the links. How did you do that?

You type it out like this (minus spaces): [ url = website URL ] what you want the link to say [/ url ]

So to link it to the page above it will look like this without the spaces:
[ url = ht tp ://w ww (http://www). m4carbine. net/showthread.php?t=19887 ] THIS [/ url]

and without the spaces

THIS (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887)

PghJim
01-11-2010, 22:09
The only recent data I could find, but it shows GS 165 gr. to be pretty good, followed by GD 155 gr. 180's are down on the list.

http://www.handloads.org/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=11&Weight=All

AJSully421
01-14-2010, 00:46
When I carry my G22, I have 180 HST in the gun, and Double Tap's 180 Gold Dot in the spare mag.

I do this mainly to have different choices, or if I happen on a situation where I think I might need the extra penetration of the bonded GD I can switch if I have time. I would trust either to tear a car apart on the way through.

PghJim
01-14-2010, 18:02
When I carry my G22, I have 180 HST in the gun, and Double Tap's 180 Gold Dot in the spare mag.


I know that is what the FBI wants, but everything I have read says lighter bullets do better. See link.

http://www.handloads.org/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=11&Weight=All

bjesse60
01-15-2010, 18:32
I don't buy into the whole lighter is better theory, a standard handgun cartrige such as the .40 s&w isn't shooting 3000 ft per second or anything close to being able to do damage by fragmenting, so all you have is the transfer of energy to work with. For example would you rather be hit by a F150 doing 75 mph or a semi truck doing 55 mph, common logic says a 180 grain will have more energy when it hits because it has more mass, the lighter loads just look good on paper with higher velocity numbers but lack the mass to transfer as much. Just my 2 cents, by the way I stoke mine with 180g Federal HST :cool:

AJSully421
01-16-2010, 01:17
I know that is what the FBI wants, but everything I have read says lighter bullets do better. See link.

http://www.handloads.org/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=11&Weight=All

Caliber (and bullet choice for that matter) are primarily an academic exercise for anyone who is not a LEO / MIL and those guys are mostly issued a weapon and ammo and have no say in the matter anyhow.

A 115 grain 9mm FMJ in the right spot will stop the threat. I like heavier bullets because they carry the most momentum to punch through things that might need punching through. To that end, I have a habit of selecting rounds that are more on the heavier side for each caliber I own... thus the 180 in the .40 cal.

Personal choice... YMMV

PghJim
01-16-2010, 02:06
To that end, I have a habit of selecting rounds that are more on the heavier side for each caliber I own... thus the 180 in the .40 cal.


I am sure you will be served well. The lighter bullets have more energy and adequate penetration. I just posted a link to one chart, you have to make up your own mind. I carry GS 165gr, or 155gr. GD because of their proven effectiveness.

UrbanOps
01-16-2010, 02:32
I carry Gold Dot "Duty Ammo" in 180gr and for the range I am now shooting Speer Lawman in 180gr. They shoot almost identical. I was shooting UMC or WWB and GD's have a totally different feel. I am really liking my new practice ammo.

While we're on this topic, what is the difference between GD "duty ammo" and GD "personal defense" rounds? The p/d comes in 20 round boxes for $25-ish where as the duty ammo comes in 50 round boxes for $25-ish.