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ajgranda
01-09-2010, 19:52
Hi,

Looking to see what most prefer in terms of reliability, accuracy, and longevity.

A Bull with 4" or Bushing with 4.25"? I'm speaking primarily of semi-custom mfrs such as Wilson Combat w/ 4" Bull vs. Ed Brown and Nighthawk w/4.25 Bushing.

Thanks

Brass Nazi
01-09-2010, 19:59
If it doesn't have a bushing it's not a 1911.

Morgo
01-09-2010, 20:12
I have several of both, I prefer bull.

gconan
01-09-2010, 20:22
Either is fine.

bac1023
01-09-2010, 20:38
If it doesn't have a bushing it's not a 1911.

Well, you can say that about a lot of enhancements.

To me, its still a 1911 and I love bull barrels.

bac1023
01-09-2010, 20:41
Hi,

Looking to see what most prefer in terms of reliability, accuracy, and longevity.

A Bull with 4" or Bushing with 4.25"? I'm speaking primarily of semi-custom mfrs such as Wilson Combat w/ 4" Bull vs. Ed Brown and Nighthawk w/4.25 Bushing.

Thanks

All else being equal a bull barrel is more accurate, having just one point of tolerance.

I also think they look awesome. :cool:


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/cutillo_2009/000_2408-1.jpg

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/cutillo_2009/000_1868-1.jpg

Officer's Match
01-09-2010, 20:56
I think any accuracy advantage is theoretical as the individual specific hand fitting of either system and the fitting at the link/lug end will be the determining factor to accuracy. Firing dynamics and balance are more significant factors of the bull vs bushing debate. If you want to burn tens of thousands of rounds, I'd no doubt choose the bushing setup that can more easily be refurbed.

bac1023
01-09-2010, 21:09
I think any accuracy advantage is theoretical as the individual specific hand fitting of either system and the fitting at the link/lug end will be the determining factor to accuracy. Firing dynamics and balance are more significant factors of the bull vs bushing debate. If you want to burn tens of thousands of rounds, I'd no doubt choose the bushing setup that can more easily be refurbed.

Like I said, all else being equal.

I love both, but there is something very cool about bull barrels in my opinion.

MD357
01-09-2010, 21:20
I think any accuracy advantage is theoretical as the individual specific hand fitting of either system and the fitting at the link/lug end will be the determining factor to accuracy. Firing dynamics and balance are more significant factors of the bull vs bushing debate. If you want to burn tens of thousands of rounds, I'd no doubt choose the bushing setup that can more easily be refurbed.

Couldn't have said it better. :cool:

hoosier#17
01-09-2010, 21:25
All else being equal a bull barrel is more accurate, having just one point of tolerance.

I also think they look awesome. :cool:


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/cutillo_2009/000_2408-1.jpg

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/cutillo_2009/000_1868-1.jpg













That Unertl is sharp!!!

Brass Nazi
01-09-2010, 22:19
Well, you can say that about a lot of enhancements.

To me, its still a 1911 and I love bull barrels.

My post was a poor attempt at some dry humor. I really have no beef with bull barrels but I do prefer the aesthetics of the old school bushing.

Officer's Match
01-09-2010, 22:40
Couldn't have said it better. :cool:

See, you're teaching me. :wavey:

sentinel208
01-09-2010, 22:53
I'll stick with bushing barrels,they haven't failed me yet.

Officer's Match
01-09-2010, 22:58
I do tend to prefer bull's on shorter "ccw" types of 1911 and bushing on 5 inchers. The more muzzle bias is a little helpful on the shorties and especially lightweight alloy framers.

GVFlyer
01-09-2010, 23:03
J.M. Browning abandoned the barrel bushing with his later design, the Browning Hi Power. Having said that, I wanted a Commander sized 1911 and bought a hard chrome Les Baer Thunder Ranch Commanche Special and ordered stainless steel Ed Brown Kobra Carry - both of which have bushings. I considered the Bill Wilson Carry, but I just couldn't get my head wrapped around the idea of a bushing-less 1911.

bac1023
01-10-2010, 05:22
My post was a poor attempt at some dry humor. I really have no beef with bull barrels but I do prefer the aesthetics of the old school bushing.

I love the standard setup as well. :cool:

bac1023
01-10-2010, 05:23
That Unertl is sharp!!!

Thanks!

Its a hell of a shooter too. :)

beretta-neo
01-10-2010, 06:39
I prefer bull barrels myself. I got a custom Springfield with one in the Summer of 2009 (after an 11 month wait). and, I just ordered another custom springfield with one the week of Christmas (now I have another 11-12 month wait.

I prefer the setup to a bushing.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/gun7.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/Operator-red2.jpg

dakrat
01-10-2010, 08:16
I prefer bull barrels myself. I got a custom Springfield with one in the Summer of 2009 (after an 11 month wait). and, I just ordered another custom springfield with one the week of Christmas (now I have another 11-12 month wait.

I prefer the setup to a bushing.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/gun7.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/Operator-red2.jpg

very nice pistol! worth the wait

glock2740
01-10-2010, 10:37
Like I said, all else being equal.

I love both, but there is something very cool about bull barrels in my opinion.
I agree.

FLIPPER 348
01-10-2010, 15:13
Hi,

Looking to see what most prefer in terms of reliability, accuracy, and longevity.


Thanks

for all three of those I prefer a 4.25"-to-5" barrel w/bushing

bac1023
01-10-2010, 20:40
I prefer bull barrels myself. I got a custom Springfield with one in the Summer of 2009 (after an 11 month wait). and, I just ordered another custom springfield with one the week of Christmas (now I have another 11-12 month wait.

I prefer the setup to a bushing.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/gun7.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/Operator-red2.jpg

That's the first I saw that barrel pic.

Very nice Neo! :thumbsup:

beretta-neo
01-10-2010, 21:03
Thanks. As the barrel is a 9mm, it's much thicker than 1 in 45 ACP.

I'd estimate the gun to weigh 48-50 oz.

bac1023
01-11-2010, 09:19
I'd estimate the gun to weigh 48-50 oz.

I'm sure it does.

The heaviest 1911 I own is my stainless TRP at 42.0oz unloaded. The full length dust cover, rail, and 9mm bull barrel, is sure to add another 6-8oz.