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Sharky7
01-11-2010, 16:42
I have the following JHP ammo choices available to me for a family members carry gun - from what I have been reading the differences appear to be pretty marginal. What ammo would you choose for carry out of the choices below?

-Federal Hydrashock 90 grain
-Winchester Supreme SXT 95 grain
-Hornady Critical Defense 90 grain

Which one would you choose?

jdavionic
01-11-2010, 16:59
I have the following JHP ammo choices available to me for a family members carry gun - from what I have been reading the differences appear to be pretty marginal. What ammo would you choose for carry out of the choices below?

-Federal Hydrashock 90 grain
-Winchester Supreme SXT 95 grain
-Hornady Critical Defense 90 grain

Which one would you choose?

I use Hornady Critical Defense for my .380 LCP, my wife's, and our Bersa .380.

FinnFanatic
01-11-2010, 18:27
I have carried and practiced with both the Federal Hydrashock 90 grain
and the Winchester Supreme SXT 95 grain. They both function and shoot well at 15 yds out of my Kel-Tec P3AT

Berto
01-11-2010, 18:37
It might be worthwhile to consider barrel length. I would stick to a strong FMJ load in the P3AT/LCP guns with short barrels and of the three mentioned, I'd pick the Fed load in a standard sized gun, just because it has shown itself to work as designed in most test I've seen and still penetrate deep.

FinnFanatic
01-11-2010, 19:16
It might be worthwhile to consider barrel length. I would stick to a strong FMJ load in the P3AT/LCP guns with short barrels and of the three mentioned, I'd pick the Fed load in a standard sized gun, just because it has shown itself to work as designed in most test I've seen and still penetrate deep.

There is merit to what you say. Out of my Kel_Tec, expansion is next to none. That is why I currently carry Winchester 95 gr FMJ's. That have a flat point, but feed well.

GVFlyer
01-11-2010, 20:20
The Corbon .380 ACP 90 gr. JHPs outperform all other defense rounds bar none.

pimuk
01-11-2010, 20:47
If Winchester, why don't you try to find the Ranger T-Series rather than the civilian Supreme SXT.

I have a few .40 Supreme SXT, the next good thing to the Ranger.

fsqridah
01-11-2010, 21:37
I'd use Hornady XTPs, or another deep penetrating bullet. The .380 ACP isn't notorious for penetration.

If you want reliable expansion, the Hornady Critical Defense is second to none. Every test I've seen has 100% expansion, but it only penetrates 7-8" on clothed gel. Not enough for me.

MURRAY
01-12-2010, 11:45
I would go with Ranger Talon or Speer Gold dot or Winchester flat point FMJ

ABNAK
01-12-2010, 16:50
Remington 102gr Golden Saber. Heaviest .380 load made.

Eagl1
01-12-2010, 18:46
I like Corbon DPX.

hybridsquirrel
01-17-2010, 18:26
I like Corbon DPX.

this. I use it, it has awesome expansion.

CanyonMan
01-17-2010, 19:23
Pard, Trust me. None of the ones you listed would I even consider trusting my life to or my family's life. I am not a 380 fan, not knocking your gun, no no, but. The JHP in a mouse gun is a really a dangerous choice and advocated by those never shot, or who have never shot another....


At best, Please, run the heaviest FMJ bullet in that thing you can find. You are not going to get the penetration needed, through clothes and skin and muscle and sinew and grissle and bones, and into vital organs to get the job done, God forbid you need to use that 380. Not with a JHP, and it is marginal very marginal with a FMJ. Despite what you have read all over the internet, and gun magizines. Do yourself a favor and get at least a 9mm, OR use Heavy FMJ in that 380.


This is not BS. It is a real world fact. Yes I know 22's and 380's have killed people. But, this is simply not a good choice for Conceal carry. a BUG gun "maybe" to your 9mm or 40s&w or 45acp or 10mm, but even at that, I would make the G26 9mm my bottom line Back up Gun to a larger caliber than a 380. It is not wise for a "primary carry gun."


I tell you this to help save your bacon, not to rebuke you ;)


Consider this, and stay safe....



CanyonMan

mitchshrader
01-17-2010, 19:31
not sure i'd be as emphatic but penetration is more important than expansion, and training is more important than either one. my opinion on ammo is shoot a LOT of it, and that covers more bases than anything else. if you can hit with it briskly and repeatedly, ammo specs become trivia.

conpro
01-17-2010, 20:46
Speer gold dot.

MTS532
01-17-2010, 21:10
I would make the G26 9mm my bottom line Back up Gun to a larger caliber than a 380. It is not wise for a "primary carry gun."

Agreed.

A self defense handgun has to be able to cover as many likely scenarios within the scope of a concealable weapon.

A .380 is great for carrying, but concealment and comfort is not why one carries a gun in the first place.

If you're serious about self defense, consider at least a 9mm.

Here's an article from a few years ago. It's still relevent today:

http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/l/aast9mmv380a.htm

357sigRog
01-17-2010, 21:51
Out of those three choices I would use Hornady Critical Defense. In my Bersa Thunder .380 I like and use Remington 102gr Golden Saber the best.

Sharky7
01-18-2010, 15:01
Thanks for the feedback.

I am also not a big fan of 380, I carry either 9mm or 45. The 380 is a backup gun for a family member while working - not a primary carry.

I'm just looking for ballistic info on the above rounds I listed. I personally like to alternate FMJ, JHP, FMJ, etc with 380's. The above 3 rounds I listed are the only ones I have access to to use - very hard to find 380 around here, especially JHP.

Hard to find ballistic tests that compare all 3 of those rounds with a similar tests. Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks.

High Altitude
01-18-2010, 23:31
Load it with FMJ and forget about it.

If you are in a situation where you have to use your BUG, you are in deep and need every advantage you can get.

In this type of situation with a .380 I would do everything I could to guarentee enough penetration to stop the fight. JHP won't cut it a lot of the times.

Thanks for the feedback.

I am also not a big fan of 380, I carry either 9mm or 45. The 380 is a backup gun for a family member while working - not a primary carry.

I'm just looking for ballistic info on the above rounds I listed. I personally like to alternate FMJ, JHP, FMJ, etc with 380's. The above 3 rounds I listed are the only ones I have access to to use - very hard to find 380 around here, especially JHP.

Hard to find ballistic tests that compare all 3 of those rounds with a similar tests. Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks.

the iceman
01-19-2010, 00:19
Winchester Ranger T-Series 95gr. JHP or Remington Golden Saber 102gr. JHP.

JBP55
01-19-2010, 06:25
Gold Dot 95gr. is also a good choice if you choose to carry a .380 pistol.

DocKWL
01-19-2010, 06:36
I always post THIS (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19914) link when the subject of .380 comes up. You should read it.