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IAmMcLovin
01-11-2010, 16:47
I have 2,500 170gr .40 bullets from Precision Bullets on hand.

www.precisionbullets.com

They're coated in some sort of "dry lube" polymer coating.

Here's the deal. I need to work up a pretty hot .40 load to make major power factor for USPSA. Are these bullets safe in an OEM Glock 35 barrel or do I need to either get a KKM barrel or sell these bullets and use jacketed?

Zombie Steve
01-11-2010, 17:06
Tagged because I'm interested.

Here's what it says on their FAQ page:

Q: Can I use Precision Bullets in my Glock?
A: Yes and No. We have many Glock shooters using Precision Bullets in factory Glock barrels with great results. However, I tell all Glock shooters it is try and see. If you have tried plated bullets and accuracy was good without keyholing, then ours should be fine. If you have tried traditional cast lead bullets and accuracy was good after 200+ rounds without heavy fouling, then our bullets will work fine and shoot a lot cleaner.
If your Glock won’t shoot Precision Bullets, then it will have problems fast—heavy fouling in 50 to 100 rounds, very poor accuracy, keyholing, etc. Then you will have to stick with jacketed bullets. However, this is very rare.

IAmMcLovin
01-11-2010, 17:30
Tagged because I'm interested.

Here's what it says on their FAQ page:

I read that, but real world experience is way more convincing.

Colorado4Wheel
01-11-2010, 17:32
I had bad luck with them in my G34. Get a small batch and try. Thats the only way your going to know.

Zombie Steve
01-11-2010, 17:33
I forgot to ask you the other day, Steve... what do you use for range fodder?

IAmMcLovin
01-11-2010, 19:43
I'm just going to buy a Lone Wolf barrel for peace of mind. :cool:

DEADLYACCURATE
01-11-2010, 21:00
I have 2,500 70gr .40 bullets from Precision Bullets on hand.


Get a small batch and try. Thats the only way your going to know.

:shakehead:

shotgunred
01-12-2010, 05:54
Hot loads and the 40 don't mix. Use 180's and either power pistol or longshot.

frankmako
01-12-2010, 06:22
for any glock 40 no matter what bullet used,,when using reloads i would use an after market barrel. i like and use kkm. it is better safe than sorry. also i use after market (kkm) in 9mm and 45acp. i shoot cast lead reloads 98% of the time in my glocks.

IAmMcLovin
01-12-2010, 08:53
Hot loads and the 40 don't mix. Use 180's and either power pistol or longshot.


I'm getting some 180gr lead bullets and a Lone Wolf barrel. They won't be HOT loads. Major power factor reloads are actually lighter than factory ammo. They just won't be powderpuff loads. :tongueout:

mteagle1
01-12-2010, 12:23
I have 2,500 70gr .40 bullets from Precision Bullets on hand.

www.precisionbullets.com (http://www.precisionbullets.com)

They're coated in some sort of "dry lube" polymer coating.

Here's the deal. I need to work up a pretty hot .40 load to make major power factor for USPSA. Are these bullets safe in an OEM Glock 35 barrel or do I need to either get a KKM barrel or sell these bullets and use jacketed?

Hopefully that is a typo and you meant 170 gr. What you really need to ask yourself is, how much shooting am I going to be doing and would it be cheaper to use the bullet I have and get a different barrel or sell these and go with jacket bullets? Dollar wise the moly bullets and a different barrel would be cheaper but drop in barrels are not always accurate. Also moly bullets will smoke more than jacketed and lots more than hollow points. Based on what I saw at the Nationals, I would suggest a different barrel and shoot lots of lead or moly and smoke be damned.

Colorado4Wheel
01-12-2010, 14:10
I forgot to ask you the other day, Steve... what do you use for range fodder?

Lizard is a Montana Gold distributor. So we get $5 off the 3 case price (or some such thing). It saves a little money so I use that.

Colorado4Wheel
01-12-2010, 14:12
I had bad luck with them in my G34. Get a small batch and try. Thats the only way your going to know.
:shakehead:

What does that mean?

IAmMcLovin
01-12-2010, 14:53
What does that mean?

I stated in the OP that I HAVE 2,500 of them and you told me to get a small batch to try. :rofl:

tango44
01-12-2010, 15:10
MONTANA GOLD BULLETS is what I use on my stock barrel.

Colorado4Wheel
01-12-2010, 15:58
I stated in the OP that I HAVE 2,500 of them and you told me to get a small batch to try. :rofl:

Thats better then me. I think my first batch was 3500 of them. I was really glad to see the last of them go.

IAmMcLovin
01-12-2010, 17:05
Thats better then me. I think my first batch was 3500 of them. I was really glad to see the last of them go.

I actually sold them. I'm getting a Lone Wolf barrel and some 180gr cast lead bullets from www.dardascastbulets.com

Colorado4Wheel
01-12-2010, 17:09
Poor bastard.

GioaJack
01-12-2010, 18:46
Poor bastard.


C4W said a swear word... C4W said a swear word. :whistling:

Jack

IAmMcLovin
01-12-2010, 19:50
Poor bastard.

The guy that bought them isn't shooting them in a Glock.

sthncmft
01-14-2010, 15:19
Those bullets are fine in a glock...

1811guy
01-14-2010, 15:47
Hot loads and the 40 don't mix. Use 180's and either power pistol or longshot.

This here. .40 is very easy to make major pf with a heavy slow bullet. This will give you a MUCH more mild recoil than a hot load. 70g ? Seriously? Take this in the right way - ARE YOU NUTS???

IF you can do it, which I highly doubt, your bullet will have to be going 2,358 fps to make major. If you succeed, recoil will be awful.

Good Luck.

1811guy
01-14-2010, 15:54
Okay, I just checked their website and they do not make a 70g bullet so it must be the 170. You will need to load to 971 fps to make major. That would not be terrible. I personally would not use moly coated bullets, but it shouldn't hurt a glock barrel. Most stainless barrels will be damaged by a steady diet of moly bullets over time. As the moly coating is exposed to higher temperatures, it can actually change the molecular structure of it and turn it into an abrasive. These temperatures can be achieved in rapid pistol firing as would be encountered in USPSA.

Colorado4Wheel
01-14-2010, 16:19
The guy that bought them isn't shooting them in a Glock.

I was more worried about you and that Lone Wolf Barrel.

cqb451
01-14-2010, 17:46
MONTANA GOLD BULLETS is what I use on my stock barrel.

Ditto here for my G 19's, 17's and 31's. Montana Gold bullets are great.
I very recently loaded 400 West Coast (remember them?) plated 124 gr 9mm RN I found in a forgotten box. I charged them with 4.6 gr. Titegroup and Federal SPP.

At 25 yds. they would not stay on the center circle of an IDPA target. You could never push the plated or lead very fast. Needless to say the remainder will be used for up close & personal training.

MrGlock21
01-15-2010, 19:50
I'm shooting 155 Precision Bullets over Ramshot Sihouette in a G22. Doing just fine, works for me. Accuracy is normal. Never tried in my G35 though.

As always, watch out for pressure signs!

Colorado4Wheel
01-15-2010, 21:30
I'm shooting 155 Precision Bullets over Ramshot Sihouette in a G22. Doing just fine, works for me. Accuracy is normal. Never tried in my G35 though.

As always, watch out for pressure signs!

Can you shoot 300 with little or no leading?

MrGlock21
01-15-2010, 21:44
Can you shoot 300 with little or no leading?

Yes.

But again, I'm not using a G35 barrel but a trade-in 2nd gen G22. I don't know if that matters anyway. I'd say give it a try.

SDGlock23
01-15-2010, 21:51
I bought 1000 of the 170's back a while ago. They shoot pretty well, but in the stock barrel they will lead. To be honest, I'm not sure whether it's leading or just the bullet coating left in the barrel. Either rate, I no longer have any desire to shoot these out of stock Glock barrels. The Precision bullets are kinda pricey too, so I'll pass from now on. I've had good luck with Precision Delta.

Colorado4Wheel
01-15-2010, 21:56
Yes.

But again, I'm not using a G35 barrel but a trade-in 2nd gen G22. I don't know if that matters anyway. I'd say give it a try.

It's just a crap shoot. People won't know till the try. It's one of those things I tried, and tried in a couple different ways. It didn't work no matter what I did. Kinda bugged me I couldn't get it to work right. They sure shot nice.

MrGlock21
01-16-2010, 00:28
It's just a crap shoot. People won't know till the try. It's one of those things I tried, and tried in a couple different ways. It didn't work no matter what I did. Kinda bugged me I couldn't get it to work right. They sure shot nice.

Well, they are a crap shoot in my .45 so I switched to copper there

stengun
01-16-2010, 00:31
Howdy shotgunred,



Hot loads and the 40 don't mix. Use 180's and either power pistol or longshot.



Why din't you tell me this before I shot all those hot loads out of my .40cal Glocks.:steamed:

Gee, I'm always the last one to know these things.:shocked::upeyes:

Paul

IAmMcLovin
01-18-2010, 10:42
I was more worried about you and that Lone Wolf Barrel.


:whistling:

I've had no problems with LW barrels. I got my LW G35 barrel Saturday and just like all the other LW barerls I've had, there is nothing wrong with it.

In my experience, I have seen no good reason to spend the premium for a KKM or similar barrel. I don't need everyone to think I'm cool because I spent more on my gear. :wavey:

Jumper
01-18-2010, 11:56
I actually sold them. I'm getting a Lone Wolf barrel and some 180gr cast lead bullets from www.dardascastbulets.com

Good bullets. Good price. I shoot them in my 10mm.

Colorado4Wheel
01-18-2010, 12:52
:whistling:

I've had no problems with LW barrels. I got my LW G35 barrel Saturday and just like all the other LW barerls I've had, there is nothing wrong with it.

In my experience, I have seen no good reason to spend the premium for a KKM or similar barrel. I don't need everyone to think I'm cool because I spent more on my gear. :wavey:

Storm Lake is the same basic price as LW. Seeing how you have had it for 72hours already I am sure you have given it a good workout. My buddy who has done many of these often gets them reemed. Mine ran fine but hated lead bullets. You don't have to spend more to get a different barrel. Storm Lake makes the match barrel for Sig Saur.

mteagle1
01-18-2010, 14:53
I'm just going to buy a Lone Wolf barrel for peace of mind. :cool:

The KKM is a much better barrel or you could take the step up and get a Barsto.

IAmMcLovin
01-22-2010, 09:43
Storm Lake is the same basic price as LW. Seeing how you have had it for 72hours already I am sure you have given it a good workout. My buddy who has done many of these often gets them reemed. Mine ran fine but hated lead bullets. You don't have to spend more to get a different barrel. Storm Lake makes the match barrel for Sig Saur.


The 17, 17L, and 34 barrels I had from LW had thousands of rounds of my lead bullet hand loads through them with no issues.

I know it's the "in" thing to hate LW barrels, but they've been flawless for me, so whatever.

:yawn: