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whenmonkeysfly
01-13-2010, 17:10
Anyone willing to share where you purchase primers in bulk? Everywhere I look (primarily Internet sales) I can't find 'em. Everyone stays sold out. (Local shops have very few and typically charge a lot for 1k.) My reloading and practice is suffering! Can anyone help? PMs welcome if your not willing to share with the Glock Talk masses. Thanks in advance!

-Doc

IndyGunFreak
01-13-2010, 17:15
It's not a real secret, you just can't be picky on brand... Wolf seems to be the brand that gets restocked the most frequently right now...

Wideners, Powder Valley, Natchezss, Grafs.. Get in line and wait is about all you can do.

IGF

gunsablazin
01-13-2010, 17:16
Wideners had some Wolf primers when I looked last week. From what I have seen primers are still pretty iffy. I had a few thousand put back last year, and have not bought any in a long time. If it keeps up much longer we're all going to be shooting airsoft and paintball guns! Two years ago, between IDPA matches and practice I was regularly shooting 700-1000 rds. of .45 ACP a month, now I shoot one match a month and total 200-250 rds. a month, it sucks!:crying:

vafish
01-13-2010, 17:18
According to Widners web site they have CCI large and small rifle, PMC small pistol, and Wolf large pistol, small rifle, small rifle magnum, large rifle, and large rifle magnum.

G-30Jet
01-13-2010, 17:32
I know primers are a little spendy but if you want to get quantity, you have to order quantity. The odds are that you won't get them all at once any way. The average wait can be from 1.5 months to 5+ months depending upon the pecking order.

Order at least 10,000 of any one type, more if you can. I guarantee you can sell all the ones you dont shoot. Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers.

If the grid goes down, or there is a huge tax on them, the ones that you have may be the last ones you WILL have! Follow up your order with more orders. You can always say; no thank's and turn the order away before they are shipped if you work with the right suppliers.

Poppa Bear
01-13-2010, 17:35
Log on to the various sites and put your name in line or sign up for email reminders when it comes in stock.

I put my name in December of 2008 and got 10K of small pistol in April of 2009. I shoot about 500 to 800 rounds a month and am already into my second sleeve. Ordered another 10K early 2009 so I have a little under 15K on hand. When I break the second 10K I will order another 20K.

If you buy on a back order status you will get them eventually, so order enough to make it worth while.

kcbrown
01-13-2010, 17:53
Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers.

700,000. :shocked:

Now that's called hedging your bets... :faint:

shotgunred
01-13-2010, 18:42
Where are all the primers?
I don't know. Just don't look in my closet.:whistling:


Order at least 10,000 of any one type, more if you can. I guarantee you can sell all the ones you dont shoot. Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers.


And this is why there is a shortage. Why would anyone need 700,000 primers? I admit to owning 20k but 700K is beyond the pale for a non dealer.

kcbrown
01-13-2010, 18:54
I don't know. Just don't look in my closet.:whistling:


And this is why there is a shortage. Why would anyone need 700,000 primers? I admit to owning 20k but 700K is beyond the pale for a non dealer.

Either he's stocking up for the next 50 years or so or he's going to cancel most of the orders once he has the amount he wants.

I suspect the latter, but the former is always a possibility! :faint:

GioaJack
01-13-2010, 19:44
PRIMER AVAILABILITY ALERT
The Tooth Fairy announced today that because of the scarcity and elevated cost of primers he is going to change his age old tradition of leaving money under a pillow for lost teeth.

My Fairy states that henceforth he will leave one brick of primers for each tooth lost by a qualified reloader. He also states that logistical complications prohibit him from guaranteeing specific primer brands or sizes.

When asked if he thought the change in policy would be popular Mr. Fairy smiled with a mouthful of pearly whites and replied; "I think a lot of reloaders are going to develop a fondness for soup." :supergrin:

Jack

Hoser
01-13-2010, 20:02
You are going to have to resort to calling places and placing a backorder.

decibels5
01-13-2010, 20:04
but gander mountain in jax

Maninmirror
01-14-2010, 11:36
I haven't posted in awhile : I have read several of the old posts . Has everyone forgotten last spring you were saying it was going to take a year. I order some primers back in October from Grafs and to date have them all. Nothing elaborate.

I think these companies are still playing catch up. Poor Mr Obama is running around with his tail between his legs. I'll bet by next Spring things will be pretty smooth.

Quite frankly I am surprised a thread on this subject is still on the front page. I was going to post last week on some threads. But decided I'd be better off coming back when the smoke cleared. I see it has

mteagle1
01-14-2010, 11:57
I read that Freedom Gunworks on the Brian Enos forum had gotten in quite a few but I don't know if they have any left.

The Tooth Fairy was by yesterday and left me 10,000 Federal Small Pistol primers that I ordered from Cabela's back in June. Still waiting for the 10,000 Large Pistol. Good thing I'm shifting to a .40 for awhile only got 8,000 bullets though.

jomocon
01-14-2010, 12:01
On 1/12, my DH ordered 10,000 small pistol primers from Cabelas on the web. It said backordered. They sent hm an email on 1/13 saying they were shipped. We should get them on 1/15. That is really fast.

Maninmirror
01-14-2010, 12:11
Why doesn't anyone use the sticky: Wasn't it developed for new people to find out where to get primers??

macatex
01-14-2010, 12:40
Things are getting better in central Tejas. I have been able to pickup all the primers I need locally at either Cabela's (from time to time) or at the local gun show if I'm willing to pay a few dollars more.

ranger56528
01-14-2010, 15:01
I just p/u 1000 count box of CCI primers for reloading 9m today and he only had one box left of Federal.....
2 yrs ago I bought 3 boxes(3000)Federal Matched 215 primers for reloading,still have em been useing CCI......

dudel
01-14-2010, 17:04
Why doesn't anyone use the sticky: Wasn't it developed for new people to find out where to get primers??

Lazy people don't read (books or stickies), they don't do searches; they just type and expect to be spoon fed. Welcome to the current age.

sig2009
01-14-2010, 17:31
Went to a show in PA last month. The dealer had about 200,000 on the table which is 40 boxes of Wolf 5,000 per box@$135 per 5,000. No shortage here. readily available.

shotgunred
01-14-2010, 18:14
Lazy people don't read (books or stickies), they don't do searches; they just type and expect to be spoon fed. Welcome to the current age.

freak is that you?

IndyGunFreak
01-14-2010, 18:44
Order at least 10,000 of any one type, more if you can. I guarantee you can sell all the ones you dont shoot. Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers..

LOL... That's 700 boxes of primers. At an average of $30 a box, thats 21k.

I sure hope they don't start dinging your credit card before you have a chance to cancel..lol...

IGF

njl
01-14-2010, 23:14
I know primers are a little spendy but if you want to get quantity, you have to order quantity. The odds are that you won't get them all at once any way. The average wait can be from 1.5 months to 5+ months depending upon the pecking order.

Order at least 10,000 of any one type, more if you can. I guarantee you can sell all the ones you dont shoot. Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers.



That's just ridiculous. That's about $17500 (plus shipping and hazmat). OTOH, if you actually took delivery of them and paid a reasonable price, it's probably one of the safer investments you can make. Does anyone foresee primer prices falling?

dudel
01-15-2010, 02:07
That's just ridiculous. That's about $17500 (plus shipping and hazmat). OTOH, if you actually took delivery of them and paid a reasonable price, it's probably one of the safer investments you can make. Does anyone foresee primer prices falling?

Ask the people at the gun shows with tables full of $70/1000 primers.

njl
01-15-2010, 07:38
Ask the people at the gun shows with tables full of $70/1000 primers.

Those are the same sorts of idiots who kept their "hicap" mags at 2002 prices years after the AWB sunset.

Poppa Bear
01-15-2010, 08:24
Those are the same sorts of idiots who kept their "hicap" mags at 2002 prices years after the AWB sunset.

That is because they were idiots who purchased those same mags at inflated prices to start with. They needed to sell them at that price just to break even on their investment.:rofl::rofl:

IndyGunFreak
01-15-2010, 08:31
That's just ridiculous. That's about $17500 (plus shipping and hazmat). OTOH, if you actually took delivery of them and paid a reasonable price, it's probably one of the safer investments you can make. Does anyone foresee primer prices falling?

Yes, once Osama is out of office. Without dragging political issues into the Reloading forum.. I think the current crisis of ammo and reloading supplies is strictly based on fear of our current leader.

Case in point.. Another, non-gun forum that I am a member of(but use my IndyGunFreak handle), I've had a friend on there for 3-4yrs. We've never met, but we've corresponded for a while and I would consider him a friend. He's in NJ, and although he is conservative on almost every issue there is, he was fairly left on the gun issue. I lost touch with him over much of last year, as his wife dealt w/ some health issues. About a week ago, he sends me a message, and wanted to get my opinion on some different firearms he'd looked at. To say I was stunned, is an understatement. He apparently has already taken a "no fire" safety class, and had a friend who was taking him to the range to shoot some weapons. I told him to shoot the guns he has and get back to me with what he liked, and I'd give him some opinions.

We've hashed out the gun control debate before, so this was a surprise. He told me the current administration has him absolutely terrified. Wait till he sees what the State of NJ has done to castrate gun owners.. he might just exodus to PA.. ;)

IGF

IndyGunFreak
01-15-2010, 08:32
That is because they were idiots who purchased those same mags at inflated prices to start with. They needed to sell them at that price just to break even on their investment.:rofl::rofl:

That is a perfect example(no, I never did that.. ;)).

IGF

dudel
01-15-2010, 17:08
Those are the same sorts of idiots who kept their "hicap" mags at 2002 prices years after the AWB sunset.

Without a doubt.:supergrin:

They also have stupid prices on tables full of 22lr.

decibels5
01-16-2010, 16:37
gateway rifle and pistol club had some today. jacksonville florida
I love being a member. paid off a little today 26 plus tax for 1000

wavetrain75
01-16-2010, 19:10
I just was in my friendly local sporting goods dealer yesterday and they had all the primers you could want right on the shelf. Winchester and CCI, $30/1000, not the best price but not bad, and the "limit 1 box per customer" sign was gone. Good variety of powder and brass too.

Memnok
01-16-2010, 20:34
Mine are in transit someplace on the way to my house. 5K SPP, 2K SRP and 4lb of powder. Gotta get the most out of that hazmat fee!

G10mm
01-16-2010, 21:01
Yes, once Osama is out of office. Without dragging political issues into the Reloading forum.. I think the current crisis of ammo and reloading supplies is strictly based on fear of our current leader.

Case in point.. Another, non-gun forum that I am a member of(but use my IndyGunFreak handle), I've had a friend on there for 3-4yrs. We've never met, but we've corresponded for a while and I would consider him a friend. He's in NJ, and although he is conservative on almost every issue there is, he was fairly left on the gun issue. I lost touch with him over much of last year, as his wife dealt w/ some health issues. About a week ago, he sends me a message, and wanted to get my opinion on some different firearms he'd looked at. To say I was stunned, is an understatement. He apparently has already taken a "no fire" safety class, and had a friend who was taking him to the range to shoot some weapons. I told him to shoot the guns he has and get back to me with what he liked, and I'd give him some opinions.

We've hashed out the gun control debate before, so this was a surprise. He told me the current administration has him absolutely terrified. Wait till he sees what the State of NJ has done to castrate gun owners.. he might just exodus to PA.. ;)
IGF

Boy you got that right NJ is nuts with there laws .

droberts
01-17-2010, 10:06
Try calling Simmons Sporting Goods, largest gun dealer in Al. If they order specials for me I usually get them in less then a week. I pay around 25-30 bucks per 1000, any kind of primer I need. Plus they will ship ! Their # is 205-425-4720. Ask for Dale or Jeff. They dont get paid on commission but really love their work and care about the customers. Tell them David Roberts told you about them. I hope this helps. Last week I did notice they had around 400,000 on the shelves and I know they get shipments in weekly

marchboom
01-17-2010, 11:44
If the grid goes down, or there is a huge tax on them, the ones that you have may be the last ones you WILL have!

Just another reason to join the NRA. Why do you think the corrupt politicians aren't bringing up gun control (or ammo control) now? They have the senate and house on their side and could pass anything they want. Because a good number of them know that more gun laws would be the end of their political career. Even the most rabid anti-gun politicians like schumer and feinstein are keeping quiet on this one.

Joining the NRA will be the best $25 you ever spent.

marchboom
01-17-2010, 11:53
Without dragging political issues into the Reloading forum.. I think the current crisis of ammo and reloading supplies is strictly based on fear of our current leader.

The "obama effect" has been the cause of all the ammo shortages. And still is. Ruger, S&W, and other gun makers have all had records sales. Obama has been the top salesman at all the gun stores. Although he has not done any gun related stuff, he is on record that he thinks citizens should not own guns.

Many folks remember what happened in 1993 under clinton and they don't want to be caught without ammo. Some also fear that they may need to defend themselves against.....

RLDS45S
01-17-2010, 16:35
Seemingly the tough ones are LR and SP right now.

But, the real tough nut is Federal in any flavor! Gold Medal primers are vaporware.

dudel
01-17-2010, 16:43
Seemingly the tough ones are LR and SP right now.

But, the real tough nut is Federal in any flavor! Gold Medal primers are vaporware.


Must be area dependent. We have both of those on the shelves right now. Including Federal. Also Benchrest primers.

mitchshrader
01-17-2010, 16:52
The money is tighter than it was and that's the other half of the reason you're seeing primers. I fully intend to spend a few hundred on primers and other components, but it'll be a month before I can squeeze it into the budget. I'm darn glad I bought a few while they were cheap..

Memnok
01-18-2010, 15:50
Where are the primers? The primers are in! (along with a pinch of powder, and some booolits too) :wavey:

http://cs.mlsr.net/Shooting/Primers.jpg

whenmonkeysfly
01-18-2010, 22:01
Yeah, I'm looking for LP, LPM and LR in bulk - 5K to 10k of each at a fair price given the market for 'em these days. (Not really a fan of Wolf Primers.) CCI, Federal, Winchester and Remington are all fine by me. Also use more pistol primers than rifle because I shoot my handguns more often (practice, practice, practice.)