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RWBlue
01-18-2010, 10:40
I have a standard 1911 Colt Gold Cup.

What is the difference between the standard 1911 and a commander sized gun?

Can I buy a commander slide, barrel, recoil rod and just slip it on my full sized gun?

Could I buy a commander and mount my longer full sized 1911 slide and barrel to it?

Quack
01-18-2010, 11:59
the commander dust cover is shorter as well as the frame rails, however, Les Baer just shortens the dust cover on his commander sized 1911's. the problem is with the rails not shortened the rearward travel of the slide is reduced. one of the problems that this may cause is that you may not be able to "sling shot" the slide.

MoCop
01-18-2010, 14:36
Can I buy a commander slide, barrel, recoil rod and just slip it on my full sized gun?

Could I buy a commander and mount my longer full sized 1911 slide and barrel to it?

Now what would be the fun in that?? You already have a full size. You NEED a Commander!! Trust me, they're great guns. You won't be disappointed.

RWBlue
01-18-2010, 14:49
Now what would be the fun in that?? You already have a full size. You NEED a Commander!! Trust me, they're great guns. You won't be disappointed.

I bought my gun new close to 20 years ago.
It probably have less than 500 rounds through it.

I am not a big 1911 fan. I fell in love with the G21 as my 45ACP/Super.

On the other hand I LOVE 22LR rifles and pistols. They are addictive.
I have a 22LR and 45ACP suppressors, so.....

I am thinking about holsters and threaded barrels.

JK-linux
01-18-2010, 15:20
I have a Commander 1991 coming to me on Thursday. I initially was going to go with the Government Model, but I knew I'd want to CCW it. Since I don't shoot IPSC, I figured the shorter barrel wouldn't impact my accuracy appreciably.

GVFlyer
01-18-2010, 16:06
the commander dust cover is shorter as well as the frame rails, however, Les Baer just shortens the dust cover on his commander sized 1911's. the problem is with the rails not shortened the rearward travel of the slide is reduced. one of the problems that this may cause is that you may not be able to "sling shot" the slide.


I like the way you say "may not be able to "slingshot". I just got back from the range. Today I shot a Les Baer Thunder Ranch Commanche, a Wilson Combat CQB, a 9mm Les Baer Premier II and a S&W Sigma (I shot the Sigma because I wanted to see if it would still go "Bang!" after I had changed its springs). My Les Baer Commanche Special has always "slingshotted" and remains tied with the CQB and the Premier II for never having a failure to feed, fire or extract.

HAIL CAESAR
01-18-2010, 16:27
I like the way you say "may not be able to "slingshot".

That is because many Commander lenght Baer's do not.

Quack
01-18-2010, 16:29
and people that have called Baer, were told that Baer 1911's guns are not designed to sling shot.

GVFlyer
01-18-2010, 17:10
I've had that conversation. It's interesting that even after you have purchased the pistol, they're still his guns.

GRR
01-18-2010, 19:45
The commander seems to me to be a backward compromise between a compact/OM and a full size 1911. Worst of both. Shorter barrel (shorter sight radius), longer grip (harder to conceal). Shorter barrel in the commander does nothing for concealment. The butt's is what you need to hide. There's not really any difference in CCW between a commander and a full size 1911. IWB is no different. You might need an inch longer jacket if you OWB. I carried my full size Kimber CDP for a couple of years CCW. I can't see where a commander would have been any advantage.

HAIL CAESAR
01-18-2010, 20:14
The commander seems to me to be a backward compromise between a compact/OM and a full size 1911. Worst of both. Shorter barrel (shorter sight radius), longer grip (harder to conceal). Shorter barrel in the commander does nothing for concealment. The butt's is what you need to hide. There's not really any difference in CCW between a commander and a full size 1911. IWB is no different. You might need an inch longer jacket if you OWB. I carried my full size Kimber CDP for a couple of years CCW. I can't see where a commander would have been any advantage.

Whether I agree with you or not....I'm going to sit back and and watch the replies to that statement.:couch:

MoCop
01-18-2010, 20:32
I bought my gun new close to 20 years ago.
It probably have less than 500 rounds through it.

I am not a big 1911 fan. I fell in love with the G21 as my 45ACP/Super.

On the other hand I LOVE 22LR rifles and pistols. They are addictive.
I have a 22LR and 45ACP suppressors, so.....

I am thinking about holsters and threaded barrels.

Ahh, gotcha. Disregard then.:dunno: