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Quack
01-20-2010, 01:21
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9666/edbrown20102.jpg
By greyson (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/greyson) at 2010-01-19

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1888/edbrown20101.jpg
By greyson (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/greyson) at 2010-01-19

okie
01-20-2010, 01:53
Very nice:wow:

bac1023
01-20-2010, 04:02
Its weird seeing a Brown with front serrations as standard.

RMTactical
01-20-2010, 04:56
Its weird seeing a Brown with front serrations as standard.

I don't like the front serrations.

faawrenchbndr
01-20-2010, 05:43
I don't like the front serrations.

Don't care for then either,.....

DAT85
01-20-2010, 05:52
From what Greyson said about the pistol is they are going to call it"MOLON LABE".
Apparently 10-8 sights,mag well and a full coating(bbl but not sure about the internals).
Not impressed.
DAT85

3rdgen40
01-20-2010, 06:02
Hard to see by that dark pic, but it looks like the rear serrations are straight(GI style) and the fronts are angled ??? :dunno:

hatidua
01-20-2010, 07:26
The typically clean aesthetics of a Brown 1911 seem to have been tossed out the window with this one.

Fire_Medic
01-20-2010, 12:29
Looks like a Valor with FCS......:whistling:

Goldendog Redux
01-20-2010, 12:38
FCS are bling to attract those who don't know any better. Ugly bling.

RetailNinja
01-20-2010, 12:46
FCS are bling to attract those who press check their guns Ugly bling.

:cool:

Blaster
01-20-2010, 16:03
FCS are bling to attract those who don't know any better. Ugly bling.

I don't even own my first 1911 yet (still looking) but I agree wholeheartedly with that statement.

I like the sights and the trigger on the gun above, the mag well - nope.

gconan
01-20-2010, 16:48
I love The Name!

Goldendog Redux
01-20-2010, 17:08
A great many 1911 aficionados express their hatred for the FCS. Yet even Ed Brown is now putting them on. I don't think you have to be a purist to dislike them.

Furthermore, people manipulate a handgun (chamber check) differently but there is never a need to put your paws out to the end of the slide. I don't care if Todd Jarrett chambers a round that way, you don't clear malfunctions out there, you don't do anything out there to keep your gun running that I am aware of so it is a useless move.

Sorry about the bigtime hijack but FCS are a solution to a problem that should have never existed.

I imagine Ed will sell a few of his new pistol.

MF

Toyman
01-20-2010, 17:45
Wow. Absolutely revolutionary. I've never seen anything like it. :upeyes:

Why bother? :faint:

Quack
01-20-2010, 17:58
this weapon was (supposedly) spec'ed out by a former Delta Force member.

Neener Neener
01-20-2010, 18:18
Looks like a Valor with FCS......:whistling:

That the first thing I thought, too!

RonS
01-20-2010, 18:42
I have never understood the FCS thing. If one of my kids used them I would read them the riot act right at the range.

ronin.45
01-20-2010, 18:43
this weapon was (supposedly) spec'ed out by a former Delta Force member.

I wonder if all the manufacturers use the same "Delta Force Member" as a designer. It seems like every new gun is built to some "Operator's" specs. Whether it's a 1911 or an AR-15 they always talk about the input from "Warriors". In this case it was a waste because he designed the exact same gun that every 1911 builder offers. Most designs(especially 1911's and AR's) have been around long enough that we already know what works and what doesn't. Opinions will vary on certain features like ambi-safeties and FCS, but nothing is really new in 1911's.

Cobra64
01-20-2010, 19:45
Don't care for then either,.....

Me threether. :)

Cobra64
01-20-2010, 19:48
A great many 1911 aficionados express their hatred for the FCS.

MF

Not sure if it's "hatred."

decibels5
01-20-2010, 19:51
:cop::cop: word police

Cobra64
01-20-2010, 20:06
:cop::cop: word police...Huh?

decibels5
01-20-2010, 20:26
...Huh?

that is what I am going to call you when I SAW your post. U R GTS VERY OWN WERD POLISE. GET IT.

DAT85
01-21-2010, 02:34
The one thing about the Browns is that they are fairly good at marketing their products with names the shooting community is familiar with(Ayoob,Jim Wilson,Jeff Cooper).Now this.I presume the FCS were added as a "bone"for those who use the press check technique at tactical training schools.I haven't checked their websites custom order sheet so I do not know what they charge for the FCS(or if it's a no charge item).
As I said previously,not impressed.I would imagine this will go the route of the Sheriff Jim Wilson piece and have a limited run.
I am sure the EB crowd at the dedicated 1911 websites will love it.:whistling:
DAT85

DAT85
01-21-2010, 02:35
By the way,anybody seen a MSRP for this yet?
DAT85

Quack
01-21-2010, 07:28
better pics by Ken Lunde

Here are my snapshots of the Molon Labe Special:

http://lundestudio.com/2010SHOTShow/Day2/2010shotshow-01202010-57.jpg

http://lundestudio.com/2010SHOTShow/Day2/2010shotshow-01202010-58.jpg

http://lundestudio.com/2010SHOTShow/Day2/2010shotshow-01202010-59.jpg

More 2010 SHOT Show photos are here: http://lundestudio.com/2010SHOTShow/

Quack
01-21-2010, 07:36
by the way,anybody seen a msrp for this yet?
Dat85

msrp $2635

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1888/edbrown20101.jpg

GVFlyer
01-21-2010, 09:59
It looks like a Dan Wesson Valor's illigitimate sibling.

MADBMW
01-21-2010, 10:12
The gun looks really nice, especially the grips with the spartan engraving. They are also my favorite color from VZ. The thing I don't care for is the "Molon Labe" name. Yes I know what it means and know the history of it, I just think it's totally lame to put that on your gun. Even worse than tactical this or spec ops that. That saying is a state of mind, not a cheesy marketing catch phrase.

Anyway, nice gun, rant off.

Brian Brazier
01-21-2010, 10:26
Nothing new there, it is a good lookin 1911, but I would still rather have a Valor

Ol'Slabsides
01-21-2010, 14:15
I'll stick to the KC he made for me... IMHO, much prettier and fits my needs better than the Pimpon Labe.

Don-wayne
01-21-2010, 14:35
I actually like the look. It is a better name than special forces.

gconan
01-21-2010, 15:07
I actually like the look. It is a better name than special forces.

Me to!

DAT85
01-21-2010, 17:07
The gun looks really nice, especially the grips with the spartan engraving. They are also my favorite color from VZ. The thing I don't care for is the "Molon Labe" name. Yes I know what it means and know the history of it, I just think it's totally lame to put that on your gun. Even worse than tactical this or spec ops that. That saying is a state of mind, not a cheesy marketing catch phrase.

Anyway, nice gun, rant off.


What he said .......:goodpost:

DAT85

bac1023
01-21-2010, 18:08
Me threether. :)

:rofl:

Goldendog Redux
01-21-2010, 18:12
Wow, with the "moron lube" that thing is even a biggur turd. Yuck

MF

bac1023
01-21-2010, 18:15
Yeah, I'm not big on names on my 1911s either. :dunno:

Cobra64
01-21-2010, 22:07
Yeah, I'm not big on names on my 1911s either. :dunno:

Solution...


Before:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Smith%20and%20Wesson/SW1911Billboard3-1.png





The fix:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Glock/041022-F-1740G-001.jpg







After:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Smith%20and%20Wesson/P1010360.jpg




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Ruggles
01-22-2010, 17:28
Have to go against the crowd on this one, I like it. The FCS I could live without but other than that I like it. Looks like if I get one I will not have to fight all of you guys over it! Glad to see Brown doing something a little different this time around.

bac1023
01-22-2010, 17:30
Solution...


Before:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Smith%20and%20Wesson/SW1911Billboard3-1.png





The fix:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Glock/041022-F-1740G-001.jpg







After:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Smith%20and%20Wesson/P1010360.jpg




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:rofl:

Rimcrew
01-22-2010, 19:10
Glad to see Brown doing something a little different this time around.

Like make a poor copy of the Valor?

It looks like EB really is trying to keep up with DW... :supergrin:

Ruggles
01-23-2010, 08:26
Like make a poor copy of the Valor?

It looks like EB really is trying to keep up with DW... :supergrin:

1. DW copied a very unique 1911 from Brown in their CBOB, not the other way around.

2. What about this new Brown 1911 copies anything from the Valor that the Valor did not copy from countless 1911s before it? The new Brown outside of the rollmark is a Brown EE with 10-8 sights, FCS, magwell, VZ grips and a solid trigger. Any and all of these are options already available on the current EE from Brown. Name one thing about the Valor that was in anyway original and unique that this Brown copies?

Both brands are quality 1911s but Brown is a step above the DW IMO and the facts show that if any copying is occurring it is by DW and not Brown, just take a gander at the CBOB. DW used Brown parts as I understand it, and you want to accuse Brown of making a poor copy of a DW?

Anyways like I said the less folks who want them the easier it will be for me to get one, although like most Brown 1911s I think they will sell pretty darn well.
:supergrin:

PlasticGuy
01-23-2010, 09:19
I handled the Molon Labe at SHOT, and for the most part liked it. I commented on the front cocking serrations also, and they said, "We are a custom shop after all, so you can just order it without them." Pretty funny, and a valid point.

Talked to Yam over at the 10-8 booth also, and he said that Brown had ordered a fair number of his sights for use on their 1911's. I like the sounds of that.

Ruggles
01-23-2010, 09:29
"Talked to Yam over at the 10-8 booth also, and he said that Brown had ordered a fair number of his sights for use on their 1911's. I like the sounds of that."

That does sound nice.

Quack
01-23-2010, 09:29
I commented on the front cocking serrations also, and they said, "We are a custom shop after all, so you can just order it without them." Pretty funny, and a valid point.

Talked to Yam over at the 10-8 booth also, and he said that Brown had ordered a fair number of his sights for use on their 1911's. I like the sounds of that.


exactly.

i have 10-8's on order for my Brown & EMP. :)

Ruggles
01-25-2010, 21:00
I made arrangements tonight and I am dropping a money order in the mail tomorrow for one of these. :tongueout:

The one I am ordering does not have the serrations on the front but everything else is the same. Price is $2350 w/S&H.

I am calling it a tribute to my Texans ancestors :wavey:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it

Mushinto
01-26-2010, 11:09
Re: New Ed Brown at Shot Show:

I'm very glad because I've had problems with the old one.

Oh, you mean a gun.

Never mind.

ML

PlasticGuy
01-26-2010, 11:32
I made arrangements tonight and I am dropping a money order in the mail tomorrow for one of these. :tongueout:

The one I am ordering does not have the serrations on the front but everything else is the same. Price is $2350 w/S&H...
That change alone would be enough to keep be happy (though I'd probably delete the scrollwork and put a lanyard loop mainspring housing on it if I were doing it). The one I handled at SHOT was typical Ed Brown understated excellence. I'm 100% sure you'll be happy with it. Congratulations!

Ruggles
01-26-2010, 16:52
That change alone would be enough to keep be happy (though I'd probably delete the scrollwork and put a lanyard loop mainspring housing on it if I were doing it). The one I handled at SHOT was typical Ed Brown understated excellence. I'm 100% sure you'll be happy with it. Congratulations!

Thanks. Georg at Gunslingers is who I am going thru and he had already ordered one w/o the front serrations, that is the one I am buying. I agree a lanyard loop would be a great addition as well. My last Brown (Kobra Carry from George as well) I had made without any rollmarks at all but I like the ones on this new model. 6-8 weeks was the time George was given by Brown on the wait for construction.