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JMiller
01-21-2010, 21:24
I have been prowling here for a few days. I have noticed that unlike other forums I have been on in other hobbies this one seems to have some nice guys willing to help out the new guys. What I was hoping is to find someone in Utah, SLC particularly that could help me out. I need a mentor to teach me the ways of reloading. Also if anyone knows of any shooting groups in SLC that would be cool also. As for me I love guns and so does my wife. Together we have three Glocks a 21SF, 30 and a 27 I have a 1955 .38 special revolver snub nose tough gun to shoot. I inherited this gun from grandpa. I also carry a Kimber Pro Carry II. I am mostly into handguns but I do like rifles also. I have a 243 and of course the 10/22. I am in the market for an AR. So again thaks for any help in the future in advance.

G36_Me
01-21-2010, 22:37
good luck man; if I didn't live the other side of the Mississippi I'd be your guy. don't knock that .38 special snub, they are a blast to shoot. when you start reloading, load down some 125 gr .38 special reloads; it will make the gun more fun to shoot; almost like shooting a .22

good luck

tjpet
01-21-2010, 23:00
I live in Utah but too far north. Might want to go out to the Lee Kay Center (on the way to Magna) and ask around for help. It's a full range facility with all rifle, pistol, and shotgun games offered.

srd
01-22-2010, 06:52
Welcome to the sight .You will find a lot of valuable information here. Like stated dont knock the .38. After reloading for over 30 years in over 10 different calibers its still one of my favorites to play with . 148 grn double ended wadcutters punch great groups out of that pistol of yours. Give it a whirl i am sure the little lady will enjoy it also.

JMiller
01-22-2010, 07:31
Thanks guys. I will have to play with that .38 some more.

Bob2223
01-22-2010, 07:43
If you get a couple manuals, do a lot of reading and ask questions here you could get started on your own if you cant find anyone close.

Oh and welcome to the forum ! :wavey:


Bob

mad.gunsmith
01-22-2010, 07:59
Welcome :wavey:

PCJim
01-22-2010, 08:44
JMiller, Welcome.

Don't be intimidated by the art of reloading. Many, MANY of us here started out on our own with nothing but a reloading manual or two to read (several times thru) before crafting our first rounds, no mentors and no internet to pose questions. We survived, and with the abundance of good information available both here and at other related sites, you'll do just fine.

Several of the steps in reloading are "almost" no-brainers (resizing, depriming, priming). There is some setup, but there isn't anything risky with those operations. And if you follow good reloading protocol and load your first rounds with starting powder charges like is always recommended, you'll be safe. Seating a bullet isn't hard either, although some people have a hard time following the die's setup directions.

If you run into problems, there are threads here galore on all kinds of topics related to the art. Using the search function is your friend, especially if you're shy about asking questions. But then again, don't be. Hide behind the anonymity of the internet and ask those questions. We've all probably asked them before, and we all (most everyone) respects the questions posed and provide relevant answers.

Occasionally, there will be some fun poked because one of the younger gentlemen here will develop amnesia, alzheimers, or forget his viagra or coffee. Just take it with a grain of salt, sort thru the responses that really matter, and enjoy the hobby.

JMiller
01-22-2010, 09:47
I have purchased a few books and read through them several times. I purchased a RCBS single stage kit it came with the Speer 14 book I also bought the Lyman book along with some load map books that were used in a class that used to be taught out at Lee Kay. I checked they don't still offer that class. I have loaded 250 of the .40 cal with 180 gn Berrys plated and 8.2 gns Blue Dot and Federal small primers. Shot around 20 with no signs of problems. They flew strait and felt a little strong compared to the factory loaded 155 grain Eagles. I have another 250 of the 155 grain Berrys Plated bullets I plan to load. I was trying to find a formula for them using the Blue Dot. I think I will have to buy a second powder for them. The main reason I want a mentor is to avoid the common problems and mistakes by learning from someone else. I also learn better hands on then I do reading books and applying it. Does thatr make any sence?

PCJim
01-22-2010, 12:11
Based on your post, you've already proven to yourself that you CAN reload and do so successfully.

As far as a mentor, just remember that students oftentimes learn and then practice their teacher's bad habits. Shortcuts that might be acceptable in other fields can lead to dangerous miniature bombs when reloading. If you do find a mentor, keep an open mind about their methods and definitely compare them to what you have already read.

Again, Welcome!

snair
01-22-2010, 12:53
i live in herriman too but have never reloaded using a single stage press. i would help you set it up if you had a dillon haha there are a pretty good bunch of guys who shoot out at the Farm UDPL.net i think the site is

dudel
01-22-2010, 19:05
Like others said, don't knock the 38. A nice soft load with a HBWC, and you'll be amazed. Plus, you don't have to chase brass all over the landscape!

jaybirdjtt
01-23-2010, 10:50
Nothing to it. Take your time. Read your manuals. Just don't double charge, forget to add powder and pay attention to your bullet seating depths. I believe RCBS has instructional videos on their website. 45 ACP is pretty easy to load, lots of data. 38 SPCL has some great plinking loads using 148 grn wadcutters or perhaps some light loads using 125 grn. copper plated bullets. With light loads the brass seems to last forever.

garyjandfamily
01-23-2010, 15:50
JMiller,
If you were looking for a selection of random advice from a bunch of old guys - boy did you come to the right place!:rofl:

I've been loading on a single-stage press for 38 years now (since I was 14). I have an old RCBS JR3 that I bought in college (USU). I don't shoot enough to make it worth my while to spend all the money on a Dillon. these days I load 38 special, 40 S&W, 44 Mag. I have also loaded .300 WinMag .308, .223, .30 Herret, .45 Colt, just to name a few. My random selection of advice is:

1. Two pieces of equipment you should not scrimp on - a good powder scale, and a good micrometer. I meter or scoop all my loads (that is - I don't weigh every charge), but I check myself frequently with the scale. I find a digital micrometer is invaluable for checking OAL, making certain that you are not over or under flaring your brass, etc.
2. Always visually check each cartridge after you put powder in them, and before seating the bullet. I also always use a powder that fills the case enough that a double charge is visually obvious. Actually, I've worked up most of my favorite loads using Unique powder, since I can always get it at my local WalMart. I live up in Logan, so my local powder selection is very limited.
3. Always work up your loads. Start at least 10% down from published max, load 10 or so, shoot them, evaluate, and then increase the load. Life is so much more forgiving if you are not pushing things to the pressure limit!!
4. Notice how often I've said Always? Think about what you are doing, and set up some absolute habits. Think of it as being part of gun safety, just like you always check a weapon when you pick it up, you want to always check your powder in each round (for instance)!
5. I find the Hornady locking rings really help on a single stage press. That way, you set your dies up once, and then they are set for life. You can buy them separately for all your non-Hornady die sets.
6. Silver Star Bullets in Clearfield has the best prices anywhere on lead bullets. The last time I checked, a box of 500 .45 round nose ACP was $29. You can give Gerry a call (801-564-0424) and pick them up. They also sell bullets for your .38 and .40 S&W. However, my Smith and Wesson M&P does not like their .40s (they are sized at .402), I have to re-size them down to .401, then they work great!

Well, there's the selection, guaranteed to be worth the price!!:whistling:

garyjandfamily
01-23-2010, 22:04
Two more things:

I said micrometer in the post above. I meant digital calipers.

If you ever (and I mean EVER) decide to try a specific load that you got from unofficial source (like this forum - for instance :upeyes:), check it against published data, and if it falls within published data, drop it by 10% and work it up.

tjpet
01-24-2010, 11:24
I buy the majority of my pistol bullets from Silver Star, too. They offer 158grn.SWC-.38/.357, 124grn.RN-9mm, 180gr.TFP-.40S&W, and 200gr.SWC/230grn.RN-.45ACP. They're good, clean hardcast bullets that offer excellent accuracy. Gerry and his partner are great to deal with. Won't find a nicer couple of guys.

gjk5
01-24-2010, 11:36
Welcome!

Lots of good info here and great folks. .38 is one of my favorite calibers to load, leverguns and revolvers kick ass!

Some of the guys here have unbelievable amounts of experience reloading. Some of them are just old, but Jack could probably tell you what your neighborhood looked like in the early Cretaceous period, so that's probably good for something.

owtlaw
01-24-2010, 11:46
I must just live down the street from you. I live in Herriman as well. PM me and I will give you my contact info. I have a Dillon 650 setup as well as an RCBS single stage. I buy in bulk and have some really great resources to buy components at really fair prices. I would probably be willing to let you come over and lookk over my setup and I would also be happy to help you get your own going.

JMiller
01-24-2010, 14:31
I must just live down the street from you. I live in Herriman as well. PM me and I will give you my contact info. I have a Dillon 650 setup as well as an RCBS single stage. I buy in bulk and have some really great resources to buy components at really fair prices. I would probably be willing to let you come over and lookk over my setup and I would also be happy to help you get your own going.

So cool, I will for sure.