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glock_this
01-22-2010, 09:31
thought there might be some interest out there to see a Gen 1 GLock 23 with a Burris FastFire using dove tail universal Glock plate (#410326). It was a cinch to install - just drifted out the rear site with a brass punch.
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2/burris1.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5949/burris2.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2628/burris4.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8148/burris3.jpg

I liked it well enough. It was way off zero out of the box, so with the little driver they provide, I was able to zero it in with relative easy at about 20 yards. It will certainly take some getting use to over iron sights. With the location of the on/off switch, I can pretty easily switch it with my thumb.

I find, as others report, you tend to have to need to tilt it down (so to speak) to find the dot.. but the more I did it, the more I could go right to it and find it. It seemed to hold zero, no issues with shock from recoil, held firm on the mount (I used a little lock tite to be safe during install).

Neuchatel
01-26-2010, 11:37
Don't you know better than to put one of them new fangled contraptions on your pistol! You must be one of them air-soft guys.

Just kidding. When I get on line to talk about Red Dot sights I get alot of talk like that.

Actually, I think your installation is bee-yoo-tee-full. I want to put a Red Dot on my 1911 but they don't make an adaptor plate for it. I have the newer adjustable sight and they only have an adaptor for the older Eliason sight.

Have you tried your new sights out at night yet? I would really love to experiment in low light with Red Dot sights on a pistol.

Steel Head
01-26-2010, 12:01
I actually plan on turning my G22 into a COYOTE BUSTER
Long slide and Burris fast fire II-maybe in 357 or 9mm
looks good

ctaggart
01-26-2010, 12:06
Tell me more about the fast fire sight. Can you shoot precisely with it? Is reaction shooting sped up?

Neuchatel
01-26-2010, 14:01
I'm curious as to why you chose the Burris over the JPoint or the Trijicon.

bentbiker
01-26-2010, 16:10
I find, as others report, you tend to have to need to tilt it down (so to speak) to find the dot.. Thanks for posting. Can you explain this a bit more? Are you saying that if you just point at a target (in daylight? -- in dim light?), that it is hard to see the dot?

A few other questions:
1.) If you are sighted on a target with steady hands, but your head moves, what happens to the sight picture, does the dot appear to move on the target? Does the dot disappear? If either happens, I don't see how it would be possible with a pistol to make sure your head was in the perfect spot. More than anything else, this is a lack of knowledge on my part re these sights.
2.) With your focus on the target, is the dot fuzzy as iron sights would be if you focus on the target? This is important for those of us with old eyes and progressive lenses.
3.) I think I've read reports of the auto adjustment of the brightness of the dot has been less than perfect for some. What was your opinion?
4.) You say no problem so far with recoil -- how many rounds? The advantage of having the sight mounted on the slide as opposed to the frame (as with a laser) is big, especially for a Glock where there is considerable play between slide and frame, and alignment changes on every slide cycle. However, anything attached to that slide takes quite a beating.

Ananael
01-30-2010, 02:10
I'm really interested in this, please let us know how it does!

DustyJacket
01-30-2010, 05:59
I put one on my Beretta and like it. (I needed a taller sight.)

And they do make a 1911 mount/base.

http://www.dustyjacket.com/images/mm_m9.jpg

LSP972
02-18-2010, 05:18
Most optical sight installations on handguns result in a piece too bulky to do anything but use on the range.

Here's one you can actually carry:

LSP972
02-18-2010, 05:23
Its a Bowie Signature Package G19, with a Trijicon holograph sight.

Without doubt, one of the neatest, trimmest jobs you can get.

I had this built as a possible solution to my inability to get a good sight picture with conventional sights, due to failing eyesight. My initial work with it was not the bell-clanging revelation I was hoping for; but I'm thinking one needs some serious time on it to get the "feel" for it. All those IPSC/USPSA guys can't be wrong, eh?

I'll be using it in a three-day pistol/carbine class this week-end. Hopefully, I'll know by Sunday evening whether this was what I have been looking for... or just another expensive experiment.

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Opticspecialist
02-18-2010, 13:08
there are so many uses for these things.i really want to get my hands on the new trijicon RMR with the fiber optic and tritium illumination. I'm about to post an older trijicon MS03 mini reflex on sale pretty soon. How do you like the burris fastfire?

EskrimadoR
03-01-2010, 12:34
Just want to share this :)
I'll be using this for fun at the range(Haven't tried it yet at the range..so, no report yet).
Flame and refinish from Rockyourglock.com(Owner is a nice guy) :)
other accessories from Glocktalk brothers here at the for sale section (Thanks guys for the deal) ;)
Here u go:

ricklee4570
03-31-2010, 03:34
So whats the verdict? Do you like the set-up and has it worked out well for you?
Thanks!



Its a Bowie Signature Package G19, with a Trijicon holograph sight.

Without doubt, one of the neatest, trimmest jobs you can get.

I had this built as a possible solution to my inability to get a good sight picture with conventional sights, due to failing eyesight. My initial work with it was not the bell-clanging revelation I was hoping for; but I'm thinking one needs some serious time on it to get the "feel" for it. All those IPSC/USPSA guys can't be wrong, eh?

I'll be using it in a three-day pistol/carbine class this week-end. Hopefully, I'll know by Sunday evening whether this was what I have been looking for... or just another expensive experiment.

.

hunt_ak
04-01-2010, 12:12
I'm with ricklee on this one. I'd be interested in any of the answers to the questions in this thread.

I'm looking for sights/sighting system for the G20SF with 6" LWD slide/bbl...

gator378
04-04-2010, 19:56
Don't you know better than to put one of them new fangled contraptions on your pistol! You must be one of them air-soft guys.

Just kidding. When I get on line to talk about Red Dot sights I get alot of talk like that.

Actually, I think your installation is bee-yoo-tee-full. I want to put a Red Dot on my 1911 but they don't make an adaptor plate for it. I have the newer adjustable sight and they only have an adaptor for the older Eliason sight.

Have you tried your new sights out at night yet? I would really love to experiment in low light with Red Dot sights on a pistol.
I have tried out the JPoint on the Glock 20 in low light almost dark. they work great in low light.

LSP972
05-04-2010, 06:44
So whats the verdict? Do you like the set-up and has it worked out well for you?
Thanks!

The set-up is superlative. But I'm having to take too much time to re-acquire the dot for my tastes; IOW, I'm shooting too slow.

In that class, I used a stock Colt 6520 with an AimPoint H-1 mounted on the carry handle for the rifle portion. THAT combo is primo... but I went back to my HK45C for the pistol portions, because it has huge white dots that I can see well enough... for now.

The verdict? I'm not ready for this yet. This is NOT a condemnation of the concept; I have red dot sights on my bullseye pistols, and they do fine there. But I'm not trying to print good hammers with those pistols, nor do I shoot them from odd angles or draw from concealment with them.

I know there will come a time when my eyes deteriorate to the point I won't be able to see iron sights, period. The Bowie Glock is in the safe for that day, and when it comes I'll put the time and effort into MAKING myself adapt to the sight. I could do it now... but I'd rather stay with the big-bullet HK as long as I can.

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Call911
05-04-2010, 16:12
Last summer I installed a Burris FastFire on my G20. I spoke with the "tech" guy at Burris before I did the install to be sure the glock mount they supplied would be strong enough for the 10mm Auto. It was very strong for about 50 rounds. Then on the 51st shot the entire sight ripped off the slide and hit me in the face. My looks were not affected and the sight did not suffer any damage because I was able to hold onto the gun and catch the sight with the other hand. The mount was totaled though. I put it back in the box and have not looked at it since.

hunt_ak
05-04-2010, 19:25
So did you call him back and ask what was up? Bummer of a report, though...

gator378
05-09-2010, 17:53
Don't you know better than to put one of them new fangled contraptions on your pistol! You must be one of them air-soft guys.

Just kidding. When I get on line to talk about Red Dot sights I get alot of talk like that.

Actually, I think your installation is bee-yoo-tee-full. I want to put a Red Dot on my 1911 but they don't make an adaptor plate for it. I have the newer adjustable sight and they only have an adaptor for the older Eliason sight.

Have you tried your new sights out at night yet? I would really love to experiment in low light with Red Dot sights on a pistol.

My jpoint works great in low light. I can see the dot in almost dark room, but I can't see anything else. The JPoint will work past what you can see in the dark. If you can't see the target, what is point since you can not shoot or should not shoot.

gator378
05-09-2010, 18:01
Most optical sight installations on handguns result in a piece too bulky to do anything but use on the range.

Here's one you can actually carry:

Agree partially except with the Jpoint my Glock 20 10mm is now a 50+ YARD handgun and the Model 629 44 Mag with scope is good to 100 + yards. With optics, handguns are getting into rifle range. Is that practical for self defense, probably not. You have to match the sights to your intended use and requirements. But I found optics on handguns to be more accurate and faster than standard sights. Not to mention you can now go into low light conditions and still be accurate.

techfan
05-17-2010, 19:51
I have a Burris Fast Fire II mounted on Beretta 92 (and another on a Ruger Mk III). I really doubted that any red dot could stand up to the concussion of a slide mount but this one has, although not without some 'issues'; Burris has backed up their product throughout, however.

My unit came with lock washers and those left insufficient threads for a good mount even with Loc-Tite, consequently, things would get loose. No lock washer, a proper torque screwdriver and Loc-Tite and we're back in business.

Varying brightness from shot to shot - changed batteries, torqued and Loc-Tited and we're back in business.

Small size, quick target acquisition (once acclimated to the sight) and very fast re-acquisition, make me a believer.

Old cousin weak-eyes has found the cure after a lot of red dot disasters with BSA, Barska et al.