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vafish
01-25-2010, 15:47
I'm coming down for a visit later this week.

Will be stopping by NC State.

I have a VA CHP and we have reciprocity.

I see that NC does not allow any carry on school property, but I can't find a definition of a school.

Does "School" in your carry laws include college campuses?

Thanks.

davis513
01-25-2010, 17:18
14‑269.2. Weapons on campus or other educational property.
(a) The following definitions apply to this section:
(1) Educational property. Any school building or bus, school campus, grounds, recreational area, athletic field, or other property owned, used, or operated by any board of education or school board of trustees, or directors for the administration of any school.
(1a) Employee. A person employed by a local board of education or school whether the person is an adult or a minor.
(1b) School. A public or private school, community college, college, or university.
(2) Student. A person enrolled in a school or a person who has been suspended or expelled within the last five years from a school, whether the person is an adult or a minor.
(3) Switchblade knife. A knife containing a blade that opens automatically by the release of a spring or a similar contrivance.
(4) Weapon. Any device enumerated in subsection (b), (b1), or (d) of this section.
(b) It shall be a Class I felony for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol, or other firearm of any kind on educational property or to a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by a school. Unless the conduct is covered under some other provision of law providing greater punishment, any person who willfully discharges a firearm of any kind on educational property is guilty of a Class F felony. However, this subsection does not apply to a BB gun, stun gun, air rifle, or air pistol.
(b1) It shall be a Class G felony for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any dynamite cartridge, bomb, grenade, mine, or powerful explosive as defined in G.S. 14‑284.1, on educational property or to a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by a school. This subsection shall not apply to fireworks.
(c) It shall be a Class I felony for any person to cause, encourage, or aid a minor who is less than 18 years old to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol, or other firearm of any kind on educational property. However, this subsection does not apply to a BB gun, stun gun, air rifle, or air pistol.
(c1) It shall be a Class G felony for any person to cause, encourage, or aid a minor who is less than 18 years old to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any dynamite cartridge, bomb, grenade, mine, or powerful explosive as defined in G.S. 14‑284.1 on educational property. This subsection shall not apply to fireworks.
(d) It shall be a Class 1 misdemeanor for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any BB gun, stun gun, air rifle, air pistol, bowie knife, dirk, dagger, slungshot, leaded cane, switchblade knife, blackjack, metallic knuckles, razors and razor blades (except solely for personal shaving), firework, or any sharp‑pointed or edged instrument except instructional supplies, unaltered nail files and clips and tools used solely for preparation of food, instruction, and maintenance, on educational property.
(e) It shall be a Class 1 misdemeanor for any person to cause, encourage, or aid a minor who is less than 18 years old to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any BB gun, stun gun, air rifle, air pistol, bowie knife, dirk, dagger, slungshot, leaded cane, switchblade knife, blackjack, metallic knuckles, razors and razor blades (except solely for personal shaving), firework, or any sharp‑pointed or edged instrument except instructional supplies, unaltered nail files and clips and tools used solely for preparation of food, instruction, and maintenance, on educational property.
(f) Notwithstanding subsection (b) of this section it shall be a Class 1 misdemeanor rather than a Class I felony for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol, or other firearm of any kind, on educational property or to a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by a school if:
(1) The person is not a student attending school on the educational property or an employee employed by the school working on the educational property; and
(1a) The person is not a student attending a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by the school at which the student is enrolled or an employee attending a curricular or extracurricular activity sponsored by the school at which the employee is employed; and
(2) Repealed by Session Laws 1999‑211, s. 1, effective December 1, 1999, and applicable to offenses committed on or after that date.
(3) The firearm is not loaded, is in a motor vehicle, and is in a locked container or a locked firearm rack.
(4) Repealed by Session Laws 1999‑211, s. 1, effective December 1, 1999, and applicable to offenses committed on or after that date.
(g) This section shall not apply to any of the following:
(1) A weapon used solely for educational or school‑sanctioned ceremonial purposes, or used in a school‑approved program conducted under the supervision of an adult whose supervision has been approved by the school authority.
(1a) A person exempted by the provisions of G.S. 14‑269(b).
(2) Firefighters, emergency service personnel, and North Carolina Forest Service personnel, and any private police employed by a school, when acting in the discharge of their official duties.
(3) Home schools as defined in G.S. 115C‑563(a).
(4) Weapons used for hunting purposes on the Howell Woods Nature Center property in Johnston County owned by Johnston Community College when used with the written permission of Johnston Community College or for hunting purposes on other educational property when used with the written permission of the governing body of the school that controls the educational property.
(5) A person registered under Chapter 74C of the General Statutes as an armed armored car service guard or an armed courier service guard when acting in the discharge of the guard's duties and with the permission of the college or university.
(6) A person registered under Chapter 74C of the General Statutes as an armed security guard while on the premises of a hospital or health care facility located on educational property when acting in the discharge of the guard's duties with the permission of the college or university.
(h) No person shall be guilty of a criminal violation of this section with regard to the possession or carrying of a weapon so long as both of the following apply:
(1) The person comes into possession of a weapon by taking or receiving the weapon from another person or by finding the weapon.
(2) The person delivers the weapon, directly or indirectly, as soon as practical to law enforcement authorities. (1971, c. 241, ss. 1, 2; c. 1224; 1991, c. 622, s. 1; 1993, c. 539, s. 164; c. 558, s. 1; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 14, s. 4(a), (b); 1995, c. 49, s. 1; 1997‑238, s. 2; 1999‑211, s. 1; 1999‑257, s. 3, 3.1; 2003‑217, s. 1; 2004‑198, ss. 1, 2, 3; 2006‑264, s. 31; 2007‑427, s. 6; 2007‑511, s. 12.)

NC Bullseye
01-25-2010, 21:50
yup, no carry of any kind at colleges buildings or premises and no parking lots. Best leave it at home or at a friends house down here but not on campus.

magpie maniac
01-25-2010, 22:46
If you're passing through Greensboro on your way, you can keep it at my house since you're not allowed on the NCSU campus with it. :wavey: I'm a stay-at-home dad so I'm almost always home unless I'm running errands or at the range.

ncglock19
01-25-2010, 23:10
There is some street parking around the perimeter of NCSU. I was wondering if he keeps it locked in his trunk and parks on the public street and makes no mention to anyone that he has it, would this be good enough?

joe

magpie maniac
01-25-2010, 23:16
There is some street parking around the perimeter of NCSU. I was wondering if he keeps it locked in his trunk and parks on the public street and makes no mention to anyone that he has it, would this be good enough?

Very true. Since State's campus is sprawling and somewhat disjointed, you could probably find non-campus street parking within a reasonable walking distance. As long as it's adequately secured, that might be an option.

http://www.ncsu.edu/campus_map/campuszones.gif

vafish
01-26-2010, 06:44
We're coming down and staying overnight in a hotel.

I'll just leave it in the hotel.

I might not have to drive on the campus, I think the coach is coming out to pick us up or sending someone out.

Anyhow, thanks guys for the quick response.

Eagle22
01-26-2010, 06:49
There is some street parking around the perimeter of NCSU. I was wondering if he keeps it locked in his trunk and parks on the public street and makes no mention to anyone that he has it, would this be good enough?

joe

Not a good option either. 1 hour parking around most of the campus. Plus as above campus is so big.

Leave it in the motel is not really a good option either. Might be best to just leave it locked up at home.

NC Bullseye
01-26-2010, 13:07
Many hotels have safes in the office that you may request to have high value items secured in. This is the best way and beats the in room safes hands down. Just have a small lockable gun case and lock your gun in that then take it to the front desk. Call and ask first if they have a office safe first though.