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ilgunguygt
01-29-2010, 00:10
Hey guys! I did a search, but didnt find anything about recent quality of the Doublestar ARs. Does anyone here have one that they would care to share some info on? I was looking at this one:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=411537957

It seems like a good deal on an entry level AR, but I really dont know jack about them. I have a very nice pistol collection and I own a few shotguns, but I am ignorant of ARs. Please school me fellas!

HAIL CAESAR
01-29-2010, 00:47
Are you a Cop using the rifle for work or a Soldier jumping into a hellhole with the rifle? If not the DoubleStar will be fine. It is made by JT which has been around for years. Bud has them for 650 delivered to your gunshop.

Worst thing that could be wrong with them is the keys may need whacked with a big ol screwdriver and a 3 pound sledge to tighten them, but so do a lot of thousand dollar rifles. It takes 5 minutes and anybody can do it.

space_weazel
01-29-2010, 00:47
We sell a lot of Doublestar/JT Ind/ACE (they all merged last year) AR's/AR lowers/LPK's/Uppers Lots of happy customers!

I would place them in the same bracket as Bushmaster/Stag/Cmmg/Del-Ton/ect.

I have two builds my self with most of the parts being DS/JT they are affordable and functional rifles.

RUSH2112
01-29-2010, 10:08
Staked keys and end plate castle nut, m4 feed ramps, excellent fit. BTW, the $660 price tag at Bud's doesn't mean it's an "entry level" rifle. It's a bare flattop, one mag, no hardcase, no carry handle or rear sight, no sling, no cleaning kit, or any of that stuff that other comparable makes come with. By including all these things all that does is jack up the price to $800-900, and you might end up replacing that stuff anyway.
They are probably also marked down in an effort to expand their civilian market. I imaging the prices will go up eventually.

HAIL CAESAR
01-29-2010, 12:59
Doublestar/JT Ind/ACE (they all merged last year)
JT is the husband, DoubleStar is the wife. They have been happily "merging" for years.
I would place them in the same bracket as Bushmaster/Stag/Cmmg/Del-Ton/ect.


They are better than CMMG. They tell you the truth.:whistling:

ilgunguygt
01-29-2010, 15:34
Thanks for the info guys. Looks like I may go this route then. I am not really looking for anything heavy duty. I just dont have a semi-auto rifle right now, and want one. The only thing I shoot is paper targets or steel targets, so unless the world falls apart this one is only for punching holes in paper.

Jitterbug
01-29-2010, 16:45
Has anyone "benched" one of these at 100 yards with some good sites?

glocked-up
01-29-2010, 21:30
will that rifle shoot ammo or only .223?

BLiTzNicK
01-29-2010, 22:38
will that rifle shoot ammo or only .223?

I bought one from Bud's back in December, and both the lower, and barrel are stamped 5.56.

I had to stake the carrier key on mine, but otherwise no issues through 600 rounds so far.

hottnucks
01-30-2010, 00:16
will that rifle shoot ammo or only .223?I'm confused :dunno:

skippz
01-30-2010, 05:01
WAY OFF TOPIC BUTT... If I were to buy a 10" upper ONLY would I need a class 3 weapons license?

wingsprint
01-30-2010, 07:28
WAY OFF TOPIC BUTT... If I were to buy a 10" upper ONLY would I need a class 3 weapons license?

No, but first you must purcahse a $200 SBR tax stamp from the BATF.

ChaneyD
01-30-2010, 07:34
My wife's Doublestar has had NO issues compared to my Colt.

hottnucks
01-30-2010, 07:46
WAY OFF TOPIC BUTT... If I were to buy a 10" upper ONLY would I need a class 3 weapons license?
No, but first you must purcahse a $200 SBR tax stamp from the BATF.skippz, make sure you do some research on this. I just got my first SBR tax stamp. I had to read through a lot of misinformation before I got the right answers. Besides the $200 tax stamp, you'll also have to get your lower receiver engraved.

space_weazel
01-31-2010, 21:15
Or he can make a 10" pistol.

Jitterbug
02-01-2010, 09:16
I'd like to keep hearing from some shooters on how well the Double Star performs, especially in the accuracy department.

Right now I'm pinching pennies for an $1100 BCM upper and lower. That extra $400 plus savings on a Doublestar would go along way towards ammo and optics.

skippz
02-02-2010, 01:59
My brother in law has put about 350 rds thru his doublestar BASE model w/ no hiccups... and has had 1.5" @ 100 yds. w/ it. To be honest & I may be burned at the stake for this... I kinda wish I would have got a high end double star as opposed to a sig 556

RUSH2112
02-02-2010, 12:22
To be honest, & I may be burned at the stake for this... I kinda wish I would have got a high end double star as opposed to a sig 556

You probably won't get burned at the stake here at GT, but you would at m4carbine.net. Those ninja's will tell you if it's not colt, novestke, bcm or lmt, it's a toy gun. :upeyes:

Jitterbug
02-02-2010, 12:52
I still haven't made up my mind....I think a $650 DS would be sweet on the bank account, and if nothing else I gotta give the Ninja's on M4Carbine credit for doing their homework. Some of those guy's seem to be the real deal as far as being shooters goes. I won't have the cash to go to a carbine course and burn up 1000's of rounds in this lifetime, but I've been around long enough to know the difference regarding quality.

I know this is a Glock forum and I'll probably get flamed but I've owned them and still have one a nice little G27 with a trigger job, NS and Milt Sparks holster, that I'm really considering selling for the AR project. It's a fine little pistol for what it is and for what it cost...it's never jammed, always goes bang and I can put two where they count out to 25 yards pretty quick...but I can't stand shooting or carrying the damned thing. It does it's job but I'll take my 1911's for shooting and CCW. I have a Kahr Pm9 for the small gun job.

I use the G27 a few times a year in the summer as a bike gun, something I can throw in a fanny pack (unchambered) and not worry about it rattling around and getting beat up.

That said, I might consider a G19 one of these days...what with the high cost of ammo and practicle aspect of things...doesn't mean I have to really enjoy it.

As of now I'm thinking the hell with it and go for the BCM...$1100 and plastic iron sites...what's an extra $450.00...

RUSH2112
02-02-2010, 14:00
As of now I'm thinking the hell with it and go for the BCM...$1100 and plastic iron sites...what's an extra $450.00...

Well, $450 is an Aimpoint or Eotech, or a thousand rounds. The good thing about BCM, from what I can tell, you actually get $1100 worth (relative to current market value) unlike other name brands which are nearly as expensive yet actually worth much less.

Me, I'm perfectly happy to buy a DS and upgrade the BCG if I ever feel the need.

Randolph da man
02-02-2010, 18:08
You probably won't get burned at the stake here at GT, but you would at m4carbine.net. Those ninja's will tell you if it's not colt, novestke, bcm or lmt, it's a toy gun. :upeyes:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii27/bilylovec/chart/holybookar15.jpg

:tongueout:

NeverMore1701
02-02-2010, 18:21
That right there is funny :rofl:

RUSH2112
02-02-2010, 18:22
:rofl:

Frog1
02-02-2010, 19:56
Check out Black Rifle LLC. They have a website and a store in Columbia, MO. I just purchased an 18" CMMG bargain bin special for $599.00. It cost me 643.00 with tax but they threw in a new Magpul window 30 rd mag.

They have several M-4's. All of the bargain bin guns appear to be real bargains. I didn't see any blems on any I looked at.

The rifle I purchased has CMMG upper and lower. It has a 1-7 Govt profile chrome lined barrel with M-4 feedramps. It has a Tapco M-4 6 position stock and what looks like a Magpul MOE pistol grip. Full length gas system and shielded full length handguards.

I like this set up. Light weight with the additional barrel length. Trigger is very good for a stock unit. For the money, Impressive.

They have one 18" left when I walked out the door. Might be a good alternative to the Double Star.

HAIL CAESAR
02-02-2010, 21:11
Check out Black Rifle LLC. They have a website and a store in Columbia, MO. I just purchased an 18" CMMG bargain bin special for $599.00. It cost me 643.00 with tax but they threw in a new Magpul window 30 rd mag.

They have several M-4's. All of the bargain bin guns appear to be real bargains. I didn't see any blems on any I looked at.

The rifle I purchased has CMMG upper and lower. It has a 1-7 Govt profile chrome lined barrel with M-4 feedramps. It has a Tapco M-4 6 position stock and what looks like a Magpul MOE pistol grip. Full length gas system and shielded full length handguards.

I like this set up. Light weight with the additional barrel length. Trigger is very good for a stock unit. For the money, Impressive.

They have one 18" left when I walked out the door. Might be a good alternative to the Double Star.

Just get a DPMS and cut out the middleman.

Jitterbug
02-03-2010, 11:52
I tried the Black Rifle LLC website and only get a one page ad...

GP55445
02-03-2010, 19:01
I bought the DS HBAR in December. So far zero issues with it after 400 rounds. I've added an M2, KAC rails, Matech BUIS, Surefire M951, Hogue grip, ambi sling adapter and a few other things I was able to afford because I only paid $650!

GeorgiaGlockMan
02-04-2010, 22:58
I have a couple of their lowers.

They are good and probably have a better finish than most.

BigEd
02-04-2010, 23:24
I have one of their uppers and I am very pleased.

jwitagauge
02-05-2010, 00:04
I have the doublestar 15 and i like it a lot

ttushooter
03-02-2010, 22:38
My doublestar has been flawless for me. It's as accurate as I ask it to be and I can shoot fairly tight groups at 100 yards. I would reccomend them to anyone.

GeorgiaGlockMan
03-02-2010, 22:50
Here is a pic of my MRP/double star rifle.

Excuse the crappy mag - I put it there to balance out the MRP upper.

1baddmax
03-03-2010, 13:42
I've got the 16" M4 style Doublestar from bud's and have ZERO complaints. Slapped on a UTG quad rail, Eotech 517, and have had around 400 flawless rounds through it.