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picturethis
01-31-2010, 10:10
I've owned a few G17 and a G22, but never any non-Glocks. I am ready to look into one of them, and don't know the first thing about them. I do know that the price difference between 1911s is huge, though. I don't want to get ripped off, and I want to end up getting a gun that I can own for 50 years and pass on if I so choose. What's a good ballpark price to look for a 1911? I am guessing around $1200, but maybe you can get a nice one for under 1k. I was told that a CZ or a Dan Wesson would be a nice choice. Thanks guys.

Quack
01-31-2010, 10:39
<$1200
STI Trojan or Ranger II
Dan Wesson Cbob, or PM-7
Springfield TRP, Trophy Match, Loaded.

for <$700 you could also go with
STI Spartan
Rock Island Armory
Springfield GI or Mil-spec

bac1023
01-31-2010, 14:00
Get an STI Trojan. :)


http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5629/0001690ud9.jpg

Ruggles
01-31-2010, 14:22
Get an STI Trojan. :)


http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5629/0001690ud9.jpg

Great recommendation.

I would also add a Kimber TLE to the list, nice basic model 1911 IMO. $850 or so.

Eyescream
01-31-2010, 15:33
Get an STI Trojan. :)


http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5629/0001690ud9.jpg

That's such a pretty gun.

S&W has a few 1911s in the OP's price range, too. What do you think of them, Bac*?



*I know you have one you like, but I didn't know how you felt about others in the model line.

Brian Brazier
01-31-2010, 15:43
I wish STI was still making the Legacy (pic please bac), IMO you cant go wrong with a DW Valor

bac1023
01-31-2010, 15:46
That's such a pretty gun.

S&W has a few 1911s in the OP's price range, too. What do you think of them, Bac*?



*I know you have one you like, but I didn't know how you felt about others in the model line.



I like both the Performance Center 1911 and the standard SW1911. :supergrin:


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bac1023
01-31-2010, 15:48
I wish STI was still making the Legacy (pic please bac), IMO you cant go wrong with a DW Valor


The Legacy was a winner for sure, though it was over $1200, especially with the PVD finish.


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_1755.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_1757.jpg

Eyescream
01-31-2010, 15:51
I wish STI was still making the Legacy (pic please bac), IMO you cant go wrong with a DW Valor

Valors are as pretty a gun as I think I've ever seen. Shame they're rare as hen's teeth, especially with DW tooling up for their new 2010 model line.

I like both the Performance Center 1911 and the standard SW1911. :supergrin:


That's good to know. I'm seriously thinking about a 1911PD as my entry into commander-size 1911s.

PS: Showoff. :tongueout:

Jason D
01-31-2010, 15:56
Why not just buy a Springfield stainless Milspec?
You should be able to get one for 600 or so, and can customize it later if you so wish.

Eyescream
01-31-2010, 15:59
Why not just buy a Springfield stainless Milspec?
You should be able to get one for 600 or so, and can customize it later if you so wish.

The ones I've shot were great.

Don't have a snowball's chance in hell of finding one for $600 around here, though. Used to you could; friend of mine bought his for around that. Last time I saw one for sale was around $750 or something stupid like that. I lolled at the guy behind the counter.

Brian Brazier
01-31-2010, 15:59
I really like those S&W's, I think I will have to pick one up

bac1023
01-31-2010, 16:24
I really like those S&W's, I think I will have to pick one up

Which one? :dunno:

Brian Brazier
01-31-2010, 16:26
Standard with Novak sights

Jason D
01-31-2010, 16:47
The ones I've shot were great.

Don't have a snowball's chance in hell of finding one for $600 around here, though. Used to you could; friend of mine bought his for around that. Last time I saw one for sale was around $750 or something stupid like that. I lolled at the guy behind the counter.

That's just nuts.

It's been a long time since I bought a SA though.
My parked loaded was 599.00, and the stainless loaded was 619.00 NIB.
That was 10 years ago though.

Eyescream
01-31-2010, 17:02
Yeah it is. The best part is that there wasn't a hint of irony in the guy's voice when he told me that was the cash price, like he was doing me some kind of favor. To put things in perspective, everything else was equally high. I think the shop-owner was also high.

Apprentice
01-31-2010, 17:29
I've owned nine 1911's since '82 and shot all of them alot. They were all fine performers but until the last one, they were all "service grade". Basic models. Then I got the TRP. In retrospect, I wish I'd applied all that time and money of the first 8 to just two TRP grade and higher level guns. So figure you're budget amt - add $300 or $400 to that and get a Baer, Wilson, high end SA, Valor etc.

picturethis
01-31-2010, 17:33
I've never even fired a 1911, but they have more history than anything else, so I am not worried at all about getting one and not liking it. Sounds like they have a lot more accuracy than a Glock, and that's good in my opinion!

M1A Shooter
01-31-2010, 17:43
im a SA guy so far so id recommend a TRP in the 1200 range. there are a few used ones here in the classifieds at decent prices. ive had a Kimber Custom II in the past as well and Kimbers are generally reguarded in a good light. i had the SA SS Mil Spec and it was a great shooter, LE/Mil price is 565 here. my current pistol is a SS TRP and i think its the best pistol ive ever owned.

if i was looking outside of SA, id go with most anything that Bac recommends. i think he recommended the TRP to me as well in the past but i finally got this one. i also like the Valor and Ed Brown Special Forces pistols.

Ruggles
01-31-2010, 17:53
S&W makes a very nice 1911. Not alot of bells & whistles but a great 1911 non the less IMO.

picturethis
01-31-2010, 18:08
I want to get a 1911 that is ready to go out of the box, or as close to that as possible. I've read you need to give a lot more care to 1911 and that you can't just take one from the box and be ready to go. I don't plan to spend a lot of money modifying the gun. I want a pretty gun that is accurate and that I can blow a lot of money on for ammo and just shoot the piss out of it. Does that narrow down which brands to avoid? haha

M1A Shooter
01-31-2010, 18:32
most mid level guns will do this for you. id get the TRP. Loaded or Kimber Custom II if you want to save a couple hundred bucks.

that said, my SS Mil Spec was great out of the box. i put over 2K rounds through it before trading it to a buddy.

Ruggles
01-31-2010, 18:51
Remember just because there are 100s of aftermarket parts available for the 1911 platform does not mean you need any of them. 1911s are good to go from the box like any other handgun.


That being said it is fun to modify your personal 1911 IMO.

den888
01-31-2010, 19:12
I'm a Colt fan, but Springfield does make some good priced 1911's.

Eyescream
01-31-2010, 20:02
Remember just because there are 100s of aftermarket parts available for the 1911 platform does not mean you need any of them. 1911s are good to go from the box like any other handgun.

This is a good point. I have a $560 1911 that's been picture-perfect for just about every round. It spits brass all over the place and marks the slide just aft of the ejection port, but everybody's told me not to worry about it so I don't consider that a fault.

Conversely, I've read stuff from people that buy a 1911 and, two weeks after they buy it they're posting wondering why the hammer won't stay cocked because they've been throwing parts at it without any knowledge of what needs to happen to make those parts work correctly.

Then it's the gun's fault and 1911s suck. Go figure.

bac1023
01-31-2010, 20:07
Standard with Novak sights

Cool.

Mine has been great. :)

Eyescream
01-31-2010, 20:08
I think I want new sights on my STI. Hm.

bac1023
01-31-2010, 20:10
I'm a Colt fan, but Springfield does make some good priced 1911's.

I think Springfield has it all over Colt when it comes to 1911s. They have better low priced models, better mid priced models, and high end models that no Colt can come close to.

I like Colts better for history and as base guns for custom builds, but gun to gun, Springfield blows them away, IMO.

Jason D
02-01-2010, 16:04
Yeah it is. The best part is that there wasn't a hint of irony in the guy's voice when he told me that was the cash price, like he was doing me some kind of favor. To put things in perspective, everything else was equally high. I think the shop-owner was also high.

I would have laughed in his face.

This is a good point. I have a $560 1911 that's been picture-perfect for just about every round. It spits brass all over the place and marks the slide just aft of the ejection port, but everybody's told me not to worry about it so I don't consider that a fault.

Conversely, I've read stuff from people that buy a 1911 and, two weeks after they buy it they're posting wondering why the hammer won't stay cocked because they've been throwing parts at it without any knowledge of what needs to happen to make those parts work correctly.

Then it's the gun's fault and 1911s suck. Go figure.

My Springfields will toss brass up to 30' away depending on the load. THere are only to guns that I own that will drop the brass at my feet. That's the High Standard, and the S70 Gold Cup.
If a person knows what they are doing, they can tune the extractor a bit to lessen the distance the brass gets tossed.

I think Springfield has it all over Colt when it comes to 1911s. They have better low priced models, better mid priced models, and high end models that no Colt can come close to.

I like Colts better for history and as base guns for custom builds, but gun to gun, Springfield blows them away, IMO.


You are right about that.

I am just glad that Colt it producing the series 70 again.
One thing that Colt has on their side is history.

Eyescream
02-01-2010, 16:08
I would have laughed in his face.

Oh, I did. You know me.

My Springfields will toss brass up to 30' away depending on the load. THere are only to guns that I own that will drop the brass at my feet. That's the High Standard, and the S70 Gold Cup.

If a person knows what they are doing, they can tune the extractor a bit to lessen the distance the brass gets tossed.

That second part there reminds me of a TargetTarget post.

That second part is a TargetTarget post. :rofl:

Jason D
02-01-2010, 16:43
Oh, I did. You know me.



That second part is a TargetTarget post. :rofl:

One look at that beard, and the guy should have given you the gun for free.
Good old TT.