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GVFlyer
01-31-2010, 16:09
One of the gunsmiths at Nighthawk Custom told me that jacketed hollow point bullets tear up feed ramps and that after I ensure function with my preferred defense load that I should practice with ball.

What say you?

DaveCharlie09
01-31-2010, 16:11
:upeyes:Nonsense.

Ruggles
01-31-2010, 16:13
Sounds odd but I would suspect the boys at Nighthawk know a wee bit more than me about 1911s. That being said I have never heard of this and cannot really see how it is possible. Maybe on some feed ramps and not on others?

X-Spec
01-31-2010, 16:18
Maybe on alloy frames, but on steel frames I can't see it.

El_Ron1
01-31-2010, 16:18
Water and wind made the Grand Canyon. Think what your poor feedramp is going to look like after billions and billions of rounds.

ilgunguygt
01-31-2010, 16:20
Did he mean on a lightweight with a non-steel frame perhaps? I know I have seen some gnarly feedramps come from shooting the crap out of some of those.

Jason D
01-31-2010, 16:50
Maybe when copper and lead become harder than steel, I would believe it.
As for aluminum framed guns, that is pretty well known.

Eyescream
01-31-2010, 16:53
I have this to say:

http://www.twelve56creative.com/pics/forumlulz/krazy.gif

GVFlyer
01-31-2010, 17:03
Did he mean on a lightweight with a non-steel frame perhaps? I know I have seen some gnarly feedramps come from shooting the crap out of some of those.

He didn't qualify his statement, but that would make sense to me.

mikegun
01-31-2010, 17:19
No ammo has affected the ramps in my kimber alum frame 1911s, in a negative way

ilgunguygt
01-31-2010, 17:31
No ammo has affected the ramps in my kimber alum frame 1911s, in a negative way
Many times it comes from someone who gives the feedramp a little "polish". After that it starts eating at it. I have seen many though, that exhibit wear there, no manufacturer is exempt from it, I dont believe.

Free Radical
01-31-2010, 17:34
:shakehead:

glock2740
01-31-2010, 17:39
First I've ever heard of it. But, the boys at NH know 1911's better than me. I doubt that I'll ever shoot enough to wear out my feed ramp. But, who can afford to shoot only JHP's? Not me.

alwaysshootin
01-31-2010, 17:47
No ammo has affected the ramps in my kimber alum frame 1911s, in a negative way

but, the metal followers have on mine! Quick fix is the polymer followers sold most everywhere. Never heard of JHP damaging feed ramps of any gun, this would be a first for me.

ilgunguygt
01-31-2010, 17:53
First I've ever heard of it. But, the boys at NH know 1911's better than me. I doubt that I'll ever shoot enough to wear out my feed ramp. But, who can afford to shoot only JHP's? Not me.
Every time I have ever seen it occur it was on a pistol that had a huge amount of rounds through it. I dont think I have ever seen one that was shot like most are.

PlasticGuy
02-01-2010, 00:02
Aluminum framed 1911's, and especially ones that have the feed ramps polished enough to get through the anodizing can have issues. I don't care for lightweight 1911's in general, but I would insist on a barrel with an integral feed ramp if I were looking for a lightweight model.

ArmoryDoc
02-01-2010, 00:17
One of the gunsmiths at Nighthawk Custom told me that jacketed hollow point bullets tear up feed ramps and that after I ensure function with my preferred defense load that I should practice with ball.

What say you?

Oh brother. :faint:

MD357
02-01-2010, 00:44
Maybe on alloy frames, but on steel frames I can't see it.

This.

MD357
02-01-2010, 00:45
Aluminum framed 1911's, and especially ones that have the feed ramps polished enough to get through the anodizing can have issues. I don't care for lightweight 1911's in general, but I would insist on a barrel with an integral feed ramp if I were looking for a lightweight model.

OR you can have a gunsmith weld in and insert....

X-Spec
02-02-2010, 08:30
Aluminum framed 1911's, and especially ones that have the feed ramps polished enough to get through the anodizing can have issues. I don't care for lightweight 1911's in general, but I would insist on a barrel with an integral feed ramp if I were looking for a lightweight model.

This is one of the main reasons I like the kimber ultras with the bull barrel that has the integral steel feed ramp.

PlasticGuy
02-02-2010, 12:55
This is one of the main reasons I like the kimber ultras with the bull barrel that has the integral steel feed ramp.
Great idea. The integral ramps are even more critical on the 3"-4" 1911's because the slide cycles faster, giving the magazine less time to push the round up and having more potential for the round to strike the ramp low.

HAIL CAESAR
02-02-2010, 14:26
Maybe NH should spend more time fixing their problem 1911's that I hear about on the forums instead of making stupid statements.
Maybe they meant to say that "you should only put 50 rounds on JHP ammo through the gun on the hopes you will get lucky and it will make it and then switch to ball so you won't send it back in for not working with JHP's".

I sincerely mean that after I sold my T3 that NH is one of the last manufacturers of 1911's I will ever consider buying again.

I'll post a pic one day of my Baer's feed ramp. It was the most rounds through it of any 1911 I own. Somewhere north of 60k and the feed ramp looks like the day it came out of the factory, albeit most of the rounds were lead with only 10k JHP. But it would take many 10's of thousands of rounds just to have any meaningful wear. This is on a steel gun a non-ramped alloy gun ( without insert) will be less durable.
I have seen guns with north of 150k and the feed ramp looked good ( again mostly lead) but at that point there are other things that need attending too besides the ramp.

Again, I say nonsense like the gentleman above. If NH things otherwise I would look elsewhere for a 1911 manufacturer.

triggerjerk
02-02-2010, 17:03
Kinda related:

Scroll 2/3s the way down the page:

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Lightweight%201911s.htm

tango44
02-02-2010, 18:09
I donīt carry HP on my Commander just ball ammo! so no problem to me!

AZ Husker
02-02-2010, 18:15
The newer popular "mini-1911's" have a much steeper feed angle. Could add some problems.