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Glock operative
02-01-2010, 20:19
Let's hear it...

SteadyGlock
02-01-2010, 20:21
Let's hear it...

Mine's been on the nightstand, but I'm eager to figure out a more quick access concealed spot. Any ideas?

skanless
02-01-2010, 20:22
In the bed night stand drawer.

j-glock22
02-01-2010, 20:23
Neither, inbetween bed and nightstand. Easy reach and out of sight. I'm weird like that, but I will hear someone trying to get in before he makes it upstairs to the bedroom.

raven11
02-01-2010, 20:24
nightstand, you have to be very paranoid to stick a loaded gun under a pillow

Price
02-01-2010, 20:25
I see no advantage to under the pillow. Seems unsafe, impratical, uncomfortable. I have a quicksafe on the night stand that is also mounted to studs in the wall behind it. The safe is quick to open but I dont want to be fumbling with buttons when I wake up to a BG kickin in the door so at night when I lay down I open the safe then close it back when I leave in the morning. I also have a mossberg cruiser with tac light at my side just under the bed. I lock it with a cable bolted into the studs when I leave as well. It sure wouldnt fit under the pillow.

markieboy
02-01-2010, 20:26
Nightstand. Your brain cannot be replaced. :dunno:

Jvrobel_30
02-01-2010, 20:27
Yea I am not parainoid enough to have it under my pillow. I dont trust keeping it there either since I tend to sleep with my arm under my pillow once in a while...

A spot I used to use is the back of my nightstand. I slept on the right side if laying in the bed, and mounted an old cheepy holster to the back of my nightstand wit hsmall screws. It gave me really easy and fast access to my gun.

Carry_A_Glock
02-01-2010, 20:28
23 on the nightstand...26 in the nightstand's drawer

Fan45acp
02-01-2010, 20:28
Let's hear it...

It really depends on your situation.If you have children don't leave any
weapons laying around. I keep a weapon it the top drawer in my night
stand.I also keep a white light next to the weapon.
Stay Safe...............J.H. :cool:

Glack
02-01-2010, 20:28
Neither, inbetween bed and nightstand. Easy reach and out of sight. I'm weird like that, but I will hear someone trying to get in before he makes it upstairs to the bedroom.

How does keeping a Glock between the nightstand and bed help you hear someone trying to get in before he makes it to your bedroom? How does keeping it there help in that hearing process more than on the nightstand or unnder the bed?

Edonis13
02-01-2010, 20:32
far enough away that i will have time to kinda wake up and be thinking somewhat clearly before i have a pistol in my hand...

Asmodeus6
02-01-2010, 20:35
I'll speak only for myself, but I'm a hands under my head - under the pillow type sleeper. I would probably shoot myself.

In between the bed and nightstand allows the pistol to remain out of sight, but readily available.

Glock+2
02-01-2010, 20:37
my wife holds my Glock while I sleep...I also stash one under the bed:supergrin:

drpdw
02-01-2010, 20:38
I have my G-26 loaded and ready to roll, held to the bottom shelf of the nightstand by a magnetized, screw-mounted metal bar....easy to reach, from my side of the bed, if I need it.
-drpdw

deadday
02-01-2010, 20:42
Glock: in the gun safe.
XDm: on the nightstand :wavey:

RBL525
02-01-2010, 20:42
Under the pillow off to the center of the bed in a comp tac 2:00 holster. Get it out when i get home, and lock it up when i leave. When it is out, my house and car keys are in the door to the safe so I never forget to put it away.

Glock operative
02-01-2010, 20:47
Let's hear it...

metro273
02-01-2010, 20:49
On my hip! :supergrin:

roch
02-01-2010, 20:52
How does keeping a Glock between the nightstand and bed help you hear someone trying to get in before he makes it to your bedroom? How does keeping it there help in that hearing process more than on the nightstand or unnder the bed?

I think he is saying that he will have time to get it when he first hears someone coming in, not that it will help him hear.

ganymede
02-01-2010, 20:55
neither.
I think a secure (Level 3) OWB would provide the quickest access
Also a Coldsteel OSS under the pillow is a good idea

705squat
02-01-2010, 20:58
On my bookshelf headboard when sleeping in bed. On the coffee table when sleeping on the couch.

LRB2GZ
02-01-2010, 21:07
On the nightstand.

Hairy
02-01-2010, 21:08
Holster rigged to side of bed rail.......just reach down and thank you mame!
LED light next to it!:wow:

1-2man
02-01-2010, 21:11
When I sleep, I flop around like a fish. Sometimes my pillow is nowhere to be found.

HauntedAlabama
02-01-2010, 21:13
I keep it on my person for the most part. Before I had my safe I had them stuck all over so they would be hard to find if someone broke in more than easy access. My grandpa had a firearm in everyroom of the house, but he lived out in the sticks on a farm. He had a .38 in an old cracker box in the kitchen, that was my favorite stash place.

RBL525
02-01-2010, 21:16
I don't stash around the house, Kids to think about who are 5 and 7...and very infatuated with guns....they don't even know i own any yet....even though they each have one waiting for them...G19's austrian proofed....

i use an iwb around the house...I live in a suburb, but we have drug dealers across the street....so much for the nice part of town.

SteadyGlock
02-01-2010, 21:24
Yea I am not parainoid enough to have it under my pillow. I dont trust keeping it there either since I tend to sleep with my arm under my pillow once in a while...

A spot I used to use is the back of my nightstand. I slept on the right side if laying in the bed, and mounted an old cheepy holster to the back of my nightstand wit hsmall screws. It gave me really easy and fast access to my gun.

I like this idea, but I would be a little concerned about a visiting kid wandering in there and.....well, you know. How do you get around this? I guess you could make sure you remove the weapon every morning or when guests arrive with bored chillens. :dunno:

SteadyGlock
02-01-2010, 21:27
How does keeping a Glock between the nightstand and bed help you hear someone trying to get in before he makes it to your bedroom? How does keeping it there help in that hearing process more than on the nightstand or unnder the bed?

I wondered what he meant at first too, but I think he's saying that his holster setup behind the nightstand allows him quicker access than leaving it in the drawer....?

ncligs
02-01-2010, 21:40
Glock 19 chambered on top of my nightstand. G26 on wifes nightstand.
No kids in the house.

SteadyGlock
02-01-2010, 21:42
my wife holds my Glock while I sleep...I also stash one under the bed:supergrin:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

FLglockdude
02-01-2010, 21:47
I keep a G17 on the night stand with an extra mag and an led flashlight. There is also a remington 870 under the bed. When I have people over I lock my bedroom door, and keep the key with me.

88_gurgel
02-01-2010, 21:58
In a holster on the nightstand, with a streamlight tl-3

ronin.45
02-01-2010, 22:09
Never under the pillow. The perceived speed advantage is not worth the danger.

If you keep it under the pillow in condition three you are wasting any speed advantage racking the slide.

Fooboy
02-01-2010, 22:13
I don't stash around the house, Kids to think about who are 5 and 7...and very infatuated with guns....they don't even know i own any yet....even though they each have one waiting for them...G19's austrian proofed....

i use an iwb around the house...I live in a suburb, but we have drug dealers across the street....so much for the nice part of town.

Papa? Is that you?

:supergrin:

SteadyGlock
02-01-2010, 22:13
Never under the pillow. The perceived speed advantage is not worth the danger.

If you keep it under the pillow in condition three you are wasting any speed advantage racking the slide.

OK, here I go again: Newbie ********* question....What's "condition three"?

theNAST1EST
02-01-2010, 22:14
Papa? Is that you?

:supergrin:



:rofl:

ronin.45
02-01-2010, 22:14
This is a very personal question. It really depends on the layout of your house. I like to have my carry gun on or next to me.

skanless
02-01-2010, 22:16
WTF? You Have onther thread about glock in the dresser or under a pillow and now this? And start with "lets hear it". :shakehead:

Glock operative
02-01-2010, 22:19
WTF? You Have onther thread about glock in the dresser or under a pillow and now this? And start with "lets hear it". :shakehead:

What's wrong with starting a dialogue?

RBL525
02-01-2010, 22:20
Papa? Is that you?

:supergrin:

while i am not going to deny the possibility of a child that I may be unaware of......i need DNA proof before you get one of my firearms....

K.Kiser
02-01-2010, 22:22
I have 4 guns placed throughout the house in inconspicuous locations... I have them placed in places as to where I can get to them without taking My eyes off of either door that a BG may enter... very little chance they can get to My Kids before the BG eats lead:faint:... If He wants to take My Wife, I'll give Him a 30 second head start:whistling:...

theNAST1EST
02-01-2010, 22:23
i need DNA proof before you get one of my firearms....



heck, might as well give it a shot...


haha

crazyrec12
02-01-2010, 22:23
On my hip until I get into something with a drawstring, as well I have some in the safe, one by the bed and one stashed in an old book I cut out and glued together in my "library"

den888
02-01-2010, 22:24
They are in various places in my home. It's a secret, so I cannot divulge the locations...:supergrin:

Patrick R
02-01-2010, 22:27
I wear my G26 on my ankle. :rofl:

Brent10mm
02-01-2010, 22:45
at the moment...?
-G19 IWB, spare mag in cargo pants...
-two more spares five feet away.
- 600+ rds ammo " ".

also a DPMS LR-308 and spare mag, + 100 rds within a few feet.:upeyes:

G20 and G36 under the pillows...

Z1232K
02-01-2010, 23:04
nightstand, you have to be very paranoid to stick a loaded gun under a pillow

How about ON a pillow? :whistling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF6HIiWCh7k

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1613/sledgehammer0.jpg

FAS1
02-01-2010, 23:05
G17 in a FAS1 safe mounted to the bedframe and open at night. Close lid in the morning and the bedspread covers it when the bed is made. Safe and accessable.

KilgoreTrout
02-01-2010, 23:26
i keep one in the freezer. a frozen bullet penetrates further.

Aces and 8s
02-01-2010, 23:39
Currently the HD is under the bed, when my living situation changes a bolted down safe is going to be purchased.

mr smithglock
02-01-2010, 23:58
I have a uncle mikes duty holster and clip it to the bottom of my metal bed frame it works great. G23 sits in it at all times.

With the G26 on the stand right next to my bed, withn arms reach. Filled with 124gr Hydra shoks

ronin.45
02-02-2010, 00:13
OK, here I go again: Newbie ********* question....What's "condition three"?


Don't be so hard on yourself. No one knew until somebody told them.
Condition three is a loaded mag in the gun and an empty chamber. You have to rack the slide when you draw. This condition is popular among those who are not yet comfortable carrying a glock with a round chambered.

Glock-it-to-me
02-02-2010, 00:16
Sig P220 on the headboard.

SteadyGlock
02-02-2010, 01:08
Don't be so hard on yourself. No one knew until somebody told them.
Condition three is a loaded mag in the gun and an empty chamber. You have to rack the slide when you draw. This condition is popular among those who are not yet comfortable carrying a glock with a round chambered.

Thanks....never even knew there were "conditions"....dang, I got a lot to learn. So, what are conditions 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 etc....?? Thanks again!

minkis18
02-02-2010, 01:09
shotty by the bed, Glock either at my desk or sleeping with me.

mplecha
02-02-2010, 02:10
I don't think I'd keep it under the pillow. I would worry about grabbing it in my sleep. I keep a 1911 on the nightstand and a 36 in the drawer on my wife's side of the bed.

ALLAN PENEYRA
02-02-2010, 06:42
Let's hear it...

glock 18 and glock 23 on the table..while my jericho 941FB and feg .380 serves as back up.:wow:

1-2man
02-02-2010, 06:47
glock 18 and glock 23 on the table..

Show off. :tongueout::supergrin:

andyo5
02-02-2010, 06:50
Top drawer of the nightstand at night, and hidden under the nightstand all other times. I am concerned that if a burgler got in while I was away, he would surely check the nightstand. Then I'd have an armed intruder in my house.

BadAndy
02-02-2010, 07:07
I keep my M&P9 on the side of my nightstand. No worries about hitting the alarm clock or light to get to it or having to open a drawer. It's only a foot or two from me, right off the bed.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/BadAndys5oh/Guns/magnet2.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/BadAndys5oh/Guns/magnet3.jpg

itjisfo
02-02-2010, 07:13
on the night stand in the holster night time.
Day time either on my hip or on top of the fridge.

engineer151515
02-02-2010, 07:18
Glock 37 + surefire X200 on nightstand + flashlight when I sleep.

Safe storage during the day.

No kids here. Except the ones over 21. :)

Hairy
02-02-2010, 08:37
On bed frame in the holster night time.
Day time either on my hip or on top of the fridge, no children or grandchildren, no neihbor children. If kids do come we lock up!
We are very gun safety first.
:wavey:

ronin.45
02-02-2010, 09:31
Thanks....never even knew there were "conditions"....dang, I got a lot to learn. So, what are conditions 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 etc....?? Thanks again!

The conditions were originally used to describe a 1911 with an external hammer and safety so they don't directly translate to other designs.

Condition 2: Round in the chamber hammer down. This is the one that most modern pistols would technically qualify for because the hammer/striker is not fully cocked until the trigger is pulled.

Condition 1: Round in the chamber hammer cocked and safety on. This one is also called "cocked and locked" and really can only be used if your gun has an external safety.

There is a condition zero but only idiots would use it. It would have the chamber loaded with the hammer cocked and the safety disengaged. Not a good idea.

RGVGuy
02-02-2010, 09:49
When in bed it's on the night stand with trigger guard tethered to drawer handle.

Vern

Brucev
02-02-2010, 09:55
G-22 stuffed full of Rem. 180 gr. JHP on the nightstand along with flashlight and cell phone. My wife is extremely capable with the G-22. I prefer the 1911 in .45 ACP, but the G-22 in .40 S&W will more than handle any sort of SD/HD incident we might face. On the nightstand we don't have to look in a drawer or on the floor or under a pillow to find it if and when we might need it. Sincerely. Brucev.

glockguerilla
02-02-2010, 09:55
I have several of these magnets around the house tucked away including near bed -- clean solution for
making Glock readily accessible. $15 at Brownells.
http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/l_100002553_1.jpg

Clownblaster3000
02-02-2010, 10:05
Be careful keeping your night stand gun too close to you. In those few seconds between sleep and wake... you're head isn't 100% on straight. I used to keep mine right by me on the night stand and I sleep with the tv on. One night there was some show on and one of the characters make a loud screaming noise. I sprung outta bed while grabing my gun and shot my TV. It was the sound of the gun that really woke me up. And after it happened i was standing there pointing the gun at the TV with my finger on the trigger and the smell of burnt gun powder was in the room. And my TV was dead. Hit it 2 inches low and to the right of center. Not bad for being asleep. I keep it out of instant reach now in my bag on the floor. I can still get to it in about 2 seconds if need be. But I don't want it where I can grab it in the bed.

I know some folks are gonna say that's my problem and if I don't have better self control than that then I'm not a "Real Operator" or some stupid nonsense and that it could never happen to them cause they're such a skilled shooter blah blah blah. I been shooting for 30 years now. It can happen if you're sleepy enough.

Glock+2
02-02-2010, 10:13
Let's hear it...

...is this the definition of paranoia?:dunno:

RJHUB
02-02-2010, 10:15
I got a bulldog in the house. Gives plenty of time to wake up
and see what is going on. 30 in nightstand drawer with light/laser.
If bad neighborhood I suggest a dog for alarm.

Glock operative
02-02-2010, 10:27
I got a bulldog in the house. Gives plenty of time to wake up
and see what is going on. 30 in nightstand drawer with light/laser.
If bad neighborhood I suggest a dog for alarm.

I do! Two LARGE loyal companions. They surely protect our territory! As they say: man's best friend

mteagle1
02-02-2010, 10:48
XD45 next to the bed with a light attached. That way if the cops have to book it into evidence I haven't lost anything expensive. Except the light.

G23c
02-02-2010, 11:23
kids in the house. no stashing here.

mteagle1
02-02-2010, 11:26
Has to be on the couch and in other rooms because once I get home I am not wearing anything with draw strings or elastic.

Never Nervous
02-02-2010, 11:36
While awake, on me. When sleeping, on my night stand next to the shotty.

11bdad
02-02-2010, 11:48
If I stashed a loaded pistol under my pillow it would end up on the floor behind the bed. I stash my Sig P229R .40 between the mattress and boxspring with the grip sticking out.

GunFighter45ACP
02-02-2010, 11:48
on the hip & in the bedroom. I do have a Kabar under the coffee table, though.

DowntimeLA
02-02-2010, 12:03
under bed, then i carry it with me rest of day

geronimo509
02-02-2010, 12:19
When I sleep, I flop around like a fish. Sometimes my pillow is nowhere to be found.

I'm the same way. Plus, I have been told by about 4 people that I sometimes yell and fight in my sleep. Seriously, like throw punches and kick stuff while saying things you would in a fight.

There is no way I would sleep with a loaded gun under my pillow. I even went as far as keeping one unloaded on my nightstand and when I woke up I checked to see if I touched it, or worse, shot it while sleeping. I did that for like a week and I never touched it so I just keep it in a holster on my nightstand.

Warp
02-02-2010, 12:30
My EDC G19, holster and all, is one of two places: On my belt on on my nightstand. I set it on a shelf in the nightstand with the grip/sites facing me. A relatively bright, reliable flashlight sits next to it. I can see the sites glowing from my pillow. On top of the nightstand are the alarm clock, cell phone, eyeglasses and a dim flashlight for walking around the house at night.

A loaded shotgun is nearby.

The house has an alarm, properly locked doors and windows and, added recently, a big (getting BIGGER) dog that doesnt care for strangers in his house.

thorn137
02-02-2010, 16:31
A couple of years ago here in Cinci, we had an LEO who was a "under the pillow" person... until one night she somehow grabbed it wrong in her sleep, and shot herself in the head.

True story.

thorn

HogGlocker
02-02-2010, 16:36
Under my pillow is not smart. On my nightstand is....23 or 32 depending.

Kids are gone and my 2 Rotties don't need no stinkin' pistols :wolf:...they are always armed anyhow;)

Spike32
02-02-2010, 16:53
Never, ever put a gun under a pillow...unless you want a very rude awakening.

Edonis13
02-02-2010, 19:33
Be careful keeping your night stand gun too close to you. In those few seconds between sleep and wake... you're head isn't 100% on straight. I used to keep mine right by me on the night stand and I sleep with the tv on. One night there was some show on and one of the characters make a loud screaming noise. I sprung outta bed while grabing my gun and shot my TV. It was the sound of the gun that really woke me up. And after it happened i was standing there pointing the gun at the TV with my finger on the trigger and the smell of burnt gun powder was in the room. And my TV was dead. Hit it 2 inches low and to the right of center. Not bad for being asleep. I keep it out of instant reach now in my bag on the floor. I can still get to it in about 2 seconds if need be. But I don't want it where I can grab it in the bed.

I know some folks are gonna say that's my problem and if I don't have better self control than that then I'm not a "Real Operator" or some stupid nonsense and that it could never happen to them cause they're such a skilled shooter blah blah blah. I been shooting for 30 years now. It can happen if you're sleepy enough.
looks like we are the only ones who share this opinion. you from personal experience and me from reading stories like yours. :whistling:

unit1069
02-02-2010, 20:46
When I sleep, I flop around like a fish. Sometimes my pillow is nowhere to be found.

Exactly!

You're suddenly awakened by the noise of a window breaking or a door being forced open. Seconds definitely count.

You reach for the pistol you put under your pillow but while you slept your movements shifted the gun.

You reach around in the dark ... Seconds count.

The noise of the someone who's entered the premises becomes more pronounced ... your wife is now awake and clutching your arm while you're still trying to figure out where your self-defense weapon is ... Seconds count.

You tell yourself, "What the hell caused me to place my weapon in a spot where I could move it during sleep?"

You now make out the intruder's silhouette in your bedroom doorway, as you frantically sweep under the pillow for the gun you'd thought would be there in an emergency ...

Time's up, and your family is at the mercy of the intruder.

unit1069
02-02-2010, 20:50
My EDC G19, holster and all, is one of two places: On my belt on on my nightstand. I set it on a shelf in the nightstand with the grip/sites facing me. A relatively bright, reliable flashlight sits next to it. I can see the sites glowing from my pillow. On top of the nightstand are the alarm clock, cell phone, eyeglasses and a dim flashlight for walking around the house at night.

Same here.

J3Colt
02-02-2010, 21:19
G23 on the nightstand...love seeing those 3 little dots glowing my way! :cool:

Mastifflover
02-02-2010, 21:32
Glock 26 in the nightstand drawer. When I go to bed the cell phone goes on top of the nightstand. I change out the flush fit mag to a glock 19 mag and that goes in the nightstand next to a very bright LED flashlight. In the morning I switch the mag back to the flush fit and the G26 goes with me.

dc2integra
02-02-2010, 22:36
glock 23 under bed fully loaded

nedfolks
02-02-2010, 23:05
night stand always within reach

delray
02-02-2010, 23:24
night stand ... near your flashlight with reliable batteries ... if there is any chance of kids then put it in a gun vault or equivalent fast access safe

AustinTx
02-03-2010, 00:50
Be careful keeping your night stand gun too close to you. In those few seconds between sleep and wake... you're head isn't 100% on straight. I used to keep mine right by me on the night stand and I sleep with the tv on. One night there was some show on and one of the characters make a loud screaming noise. I sprung outta bed while grabing my gun and shot my TV. It was the sound of the gun that really woke me up. And after it happened i was standing there pointing the gun at the TV with my finger on the trigger and the smell of burnt gun powder was in the room. And my TV was dead. Hit it 2 inches low and to the right of center. Not bad for being asleep. I keep it out of instant reach now in my bag on the floor. I can still get to it in about 2 seconds if need be. But I don't want it where I can grab it in the bed.

I know some folks are gonna say that's my problem and if I don't have better self control than that then I'm not a "Real Operator" or some stupid nonsense and that it could never happen to them cause they're such a skilled shooter blah blah blah. I been shooting for 30 years now. It can happen if you're sleepy enough.

Not so, I'm gonna say, I don't believe a word of that.

Jack23
02-03-2010, 00:53
Night stand. Rotate between the 23 and the 21. I trust 'em both, don'tcha know!

biggin215
02-03-2010, 01:10
G30 on the nightstand here.....

Orion's Belt
02-03-2010, 01:43
G26 on the night stand along with an extra mag.

sapper1911
02-03-2010, 17:07
G23 on me untill bedtime, then it goes in the dresser along with a flashlight and 2 spare mags. Unloaded Moss 500 in closet with ammo nearby. The sound of my Lab licking the intruder should give me time to load the shotgun.

Deaf Smith
02-03-2010, 18:13
At home the Glock 26 AND Smith 642 are both in the nightstand drawer.

When traveling alone, the Glock is in the night stand drawer but the 642 'sleeps' with me in bed (since I'm married that had better be all that is in bed with me.)

Deaf

minkis18
02-04-2010, 00:34
The sound of my Lab licking the intruder should give me time to load the shotgun.
sounds like my guard dog...He'll probably alert me by excited panting and dropping his toys for him.

FAS1
02-04-2010, 14:49
Here's a secure option for those who need it along with accessability. Shown with my G17 w/night sights.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1156669

MTPD
02-09-2010, 13:50
My police experience suggests that it is likely that an intruder will already be in your bedroom before you wake up (unless you have barred bedroom windows, heavy-duty bolted bedroom door and a dog). That being the reality of the situation, your gun must be kept HIDDEN FROM VIEW, BUT READILY ACCESSIBLE.

#1 Location: Between the mattress and springs with just a small portion of the grip sticking out. #2 In a fast-access gunsafe bolted to the nightstand. #3 Under the pillow if you are not prone to grabbing it in your sleep.

NEVER EVER LEAVE IT LYING IN OPEN VIEW ON YOUR NIGHTSTAND! Otherwise an intruder might get it before you do.

MTPD
02-09-2010, 13:54
A couple of years ago here in Cinci, we had an LEO who was a "under the pillow" person... until one night she somehow grabbed it wrong in her sleep, and shot herself in the head.

True story.

thorn

Did she have a lot of insurance? A jealous boyfriend or husband? :upeyes:

1936
02-10-2010, 06:58
mine's an electronic, fingerprint activated, single pistol safe bolted to my bedframe. My duty weapon SIG 220 .45, is in there, as proscribed in dept policy.

Also have a Remington marine magnum 12ga., loaded with 3" 00, hanging alongside my box spring, from brackets I made.

One of our schH3 German Shepherds sleeps up stairs and one sleeps at the foot of my bed.

Defender77
02-11-2010, 02:15
Why would you guys wanna tell the crooks where you keep your guns?