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skippz
02-02-2010, 05:22
I have mine tricked out w/ troy sights/rails and some good covers & mags... I love it but have heard HORROR stories... what do u pros think?

Mayhem like Me
02-02-2010, 05:48
It's a great rifle built like a tank.

skippz
02-02-2010, 06:10
man does it feel good to hear someone else speak that... thank you!

bradleybear
02-02-2010, 15:29
Excellent weapon.
One thing I like is how easy it is to clean afterwards.

Best 5.56 rifle I have used

cmslone
02-02-2010, 16:00
I kinda did the same thing with my CMMG AR. The thing runs fine, but some posters on other sites downplay it, so I got worried. You know what, it's your money and your rifle. If you like it, you have it set up nicely and it shoots what you put in it, who cares what other people say?

I have heard a few bad things about the 556 but mostly good. Just like with anything these days.

Enjoy it!

WayaX
02-02-2010, 16:19
You own one, you should be the judge of what your rifle can do. Does it have canted rails? does it have the carrier/receiver wear issue? The problem with the Sig 556 lies with quality control (or in this case, lack-there-of). Mine has been great, other people have had bad luck. However, from all of my experience with them you either get a good one or a bad one right off the bat. You don't get a good one and then 2000 rounds down the road have it go bad.

This is mine:

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=696&pictureid=2556

Even this picture isn't quite up to date as I put a vortex flash suppressor on it yesterday and have a magpul AFG and rail panels en route.

billwade
02-05-2010, 14:06
Great rifle. Only problem I have is it eats a lot of ammo, about 4500 rds so far.I even did a 1000 rd test with wolf and had no problems .

RossBotha
02-05-2010, 14:11
Love it, I run two.
No problems so far...over 5K rounds each.

woggie
02-06-2010, 15:40
I love mine!

Chuck TX
02-07-2010, 01:55
How is it on brass (for reloading purposes)?

Morris
02-07-2010, 06:30
Not the greatest on the one I had.

slewfoot
02-07-2010, 08:08
I have two. The only bad thing I can say is they bang the living crap out of the casings when extracting.

If you aren't a reloader, this isn't a problem.

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skippz
02-07-2010, 09:19
You own one, you should be the judge of what your rifle can do. Does it have canted rails? does it have the carrier/receiver wear issue? The problem with the Sig 556 lies with quality control (or in this case, lack-there-of). Mine has been great, other people have had bad luck. However, from all of my experience with them you either get a good one or a bad one right off the bat. You don't get a good one and then 2000 rounds down the road have it go bad.

This is mine:

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=696&pictureid=2556

Even this picture isn't quite up to date as I put a vortex flash suppressor on it yesterday and have a magpul AFG and rail panels en route.

Wow, you really have yours tricked out I plan on adding more to mine once the funds are available. So how many rounds have you had through yours?

Scott_F
02-20-2010, 00:56
I just bought a Sig 556 Classic. Had a chance to put a few mags thru it today. Very nice shooter. I'm impressed. Field stripping it is about the easiest thing I've ever done. I watched my brother in law strip his AR15 a few times and it sure looked like a pain.

22highcaps
02-20-2010, 07:05
I have two. The only bad thing I can say is they bang the living crap out of the casings when extracting.

If you aren't a reloader, this isn't a problem.

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Sweet, especially the top one.

However, are you sure that scope isn't on backwards? It sort of looks that way to me at least relative to all the other 1-4ish scope I have seen.

dday27
02-20-2010, 10:05
Don't forget Sigs 300.00 rebate on any of their rifles till March 8th

WayaX
02-20-2010, 10:08
Wow, you really have yours tricked out I plan on adding more to mine once the funds are available. So how many rounds have you had through yours?

Just under 2000 rounds through it. I finally got to take it out with 68gr match ammo. The range was only 50 yards, and I shot at 25 yards (i'll take it out to 100 when the outdoor range gets dug up). At 25 yards my best group was about 1/2". That makes it 2MOA. I was actually expecting the rifle to be around 4MOA, so I'm pleased.

I just bought a second Sig 556 and it went back to Exeter the day after I got it. There were so many problems it wasn't funny. The rail that the bolt carrier rides on was coming un-welded from the upper receiver. It had the dreaded hump, and the bolt carrier wasn't quite as refined as my older rifle.

CaptainJack180
02-20-2010, 11:10
I love mine. I went with the Troy quad rail and have absolutely no complaints. My 556 doesnt like wolf ammo, but thats ok, neither do I :)

Wild Gene
02-20-2010, 11:51
Best thing you can do is do your research, buy what you like, then don't worry about what everyone else says about it. Shoot it, and enjoy it.

WG

WayaX
02-20-2010, 17:42
Best thing you can do is do your research, buy what you like, then don't worry about what everyone else says about it. Shoot it, and enjoy it.

WG


I think the OP already bought one. Like I said before, with the Sig 556 you either get a bad one right out of the box, or you get a good one. My first one was good, and is good, and will most likely continue to be good.

My second one will most likely be scrapped by Sig (really, it was that bad). I'm sure they'll replace it, I just hope they replace it with a good one (no hump, please).

furioso2112
02-20-2010, 21:19
what is this hump spoken of?

I have an early serial #, but the sights were not canted...everything that the early buyers reported seemed to not be a problem on mine, but I don't recognize the hump issue...I did have a finich issue, and the crap plastic handguards were broken NIB.

I replaced the handguard with the Samson railed handguard - I like it very much. Also dremeled a CAA grip to fit it, no problems with that so far. I got into ARs soon after I bought the Sig556, so I still only have about 1100 rounds through it. I had considered selling it because I started using ARs as my go-to rifles, but then I shot it and cleaned and remembered some of the finer points. That, and prices being relatively low on them, I decided to hang on to it.

It's a smooth shooter, solid, easy to clean. I prefer the parts interchangeability/availability of the AR platform. The handguard replacement has really been a big improvement. Other than a different stock, not much else I'd want to do to it. My AR experience hasbeen rather different...lots of changes and 'high-end' parts, and my current favorite is as solid and smooth as the Sig. I like it better due to the fact that I can change out any parts easily, and can customize for application as much as I have imagined so far. That said, it's more a case of great in different ways than one better than the other.

MrMurphy
02-20-2010, 21:56
EAG Tactical (Pat Rogers) hasn't seen one survive a class I know of.

For most purposes it'll probably do fine. If it ever got down to running it hard (combat type use) half the civilian ARs out there would fail, due to crappy construction/bad QC.

thisaway
02-20-2010, 22:21
This is mine:

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=696&pictureid=2556

What brand railed forearm do you have on it?

panzer1
02-20-2010, 22:52
Excellent weapon.
One thing I like is how easy it is to clean afterwards.

Best 5.56 rifle I have usedIt would be much better if it was in 6.8 or 7.62x39. Then I would get one.

Scott_F
02-20-2010, 23:02
I'm a guitar player and I had an extra "gig" bag (a soft sided guitar case) laying around. It fits my 556 with the mag installed perfectly. Urban camouflage. Most high dollar guitars would be in a hard case, so the gig bag is often holding a mid-level or cheap guitar. I travel a lot and I'd like to be discrete where possible.

http://gallery.me.com/scott_f/100158/Gig%20bag%202/web.jpg?ver=12666442620001

http://gallery.me.com/scott_f/100158/Gig%20Bag%203/web.jpg?ver=12666439790001

WayaX
02-21-2010, 19:00
What brand railed forearm do you have on it?

Troy.

what is this hump spoken of?

It is a spot in the upper receiver where the bolt carrier and the upper receiver come into contact during use. This produces wear on both the bolt carrier and the upper receiver. Sig's solution to the hump problem has been to grind both parts down. What, if any, consequences there are to having the hump are not yet known, though some believe it may lead to accuracy issues.

I was going to test my new humped rifle vs. my non-humped rifle, however the other issues with the new rifle made me send it back to Sig immediately as I did not know if it would be safe to shoot (with the welding coming off, etc).

12131
02-21-2010, 19:18
I have mine tricked out w/ troy sights/rails and some good covers & mags... I love it but have heard HORROR stories... what do u pros think?
What? Let me get this straight. You have a Sig 556, all tricked out, and heard horror stories that freak you out? Have you even shot your rifle yet?:dunno:

skippz
02-21-2010, 19:55
What? Let me get this straight. You have a Sig 556, all tricked out, and heard horror stories that freak you out? Have you even shot your rifle yet?:dunno:


Yes I have shot it... what I'm saying is I didn't hear of the infamous "hump" until after I had put about 200rds thru it & bought some rails for it... I've had a bad winter here and haven't shot it as much as I would've liked... I'm thinking a total of 350rds thru it total w/ the only failure being a FTE w/ 55gr wolf ammo and factory mags... since I've been using pmags & pmc for plinking, hornady or black hills for target shooting etc. I'm just hoping it was the ammo/mags and not the gun itself.

slewfoot
02-21-2010, 19:56
Sweet, especially the top one.

However, are you sure that scope isn't on backwards? It sort of looks that way to me at least relative to all the other 1-4ish scope I have seen.

Is it possible to mount an ACOG backwards?

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/cbj/cbj_ak900.jpg

MrMurphy
02-21-2010, 20:35
That's a TA31 or TA01 ACOG, it's mounted correctly.

Wild Gene
02-21-2010, 22:46
I think the OP already bought one. Like I said before, with the Sig 556 you either get a bad one right out of the box, or you get a good one. My first one was good, and is good, and will most likely continue to be good.

My second one will most likely be scrapped by Sig (really, it was that bad). I'm sure they'll replace it, I just hope they replace it with a good one (no hump, please).

My post was not directed toward anyone in particular. My only point was get what you like, then don't worry too much about the bad press it may get here or elsewhere. It may not be as reliable as X or as cool as Y, but if it is what turns your crank, learn its shortcomings and work with what you have. I won a regional trap thing with a cut down '97 shotgun, and everyone else had a purpose built, or more suited gun. I would never shoot a marathon with that shotgun, but I can go out and run 25 with it. Does that make sense? Hope it came out right....

Anyway, it sounds like your got a real POS. You hate to see that happen to anyone, and Sig is an excellent company so you sure think they'd make it right.

WG

WayaX
02-22-2010, 21:47
My post was not directed toward anyone in particular. My only point was get what you like, then don't worry too much about the bad press it may get here or elsewhere. It may not be as reliable as X or as cool as Y, but if it is what turns your crank, learn its shortcomings and work with what you have. I won a regional trap thing with a cut down '97 shotgun, and everyone else had a purpose built, or more suited gun. I would never shoot a marathon with that shotgun, but I can go out and run 25 with it. Does that make sense? Hope it came out right....

Anyway, it sounds like your got a real POS. You hate to see that happen to anyone, and Sig is an excellent company so you sure think they'd make it right.

WG

Oh, I got your point in your first post; I 100% agree with you. I was merely trying to keep the topic on topic (if that makes any sense).

And yes, mine was bad. I've been very displeased with Sigs in general lately; The only exception is my Fiance's Swiss (german made, assembled in switzerland) P225. That thing is amazing and can keep up with my HK P30 in accuracy. But I digress...

If I were to buy another .223 rifle, it will not be a Sig 556. Since I already have two though, I would take that as it is.

furioso2112
02-23-2010, 19:16
Thanks for the update on the hump...off to check mine out...

No hump-a-jujelage noticed. I have what I consider an inordinate number of scratches on the in- and out-side of my receiver, though. I sent it back when I first got it for this problem - they had a fit on the phone when I asked if the spots were something I could just touch-up with some Oxpho-Blu or another agent. When it came back, it was in worse shape than I sent it in - the box had been drop-kicked and had a big tear in the foam, the replaced handguard rails were broken again, and they spot-touched the finish wear - which promptly came off when I wiped it with a soft cloth. I never said another word to them. I never intended the rifle to be a safe queen. I certainly won't pay for another Sig product, though.

I picked the Sig556 because I had read so many great things about their products. To buy a new $1100 (at the time) gun and have problems out of the box that I had to pay $50 to have shipped to them, only to get it back in worse shape just is not something that leads me to give them a second chance. With so many other choices in the market, I will exercise my free market voice with my pocketbook. They already had several chances on the phone and via mail. I was very forgiving of the initial issues, and never raised a stink - just not how I act. Even if I end up selling it, I would do so with full disclosure to the buyer and expect to take a loss beyond the reasonable depreciation of the rifle. Not a situation that earns my business.

Had it been a dubiously-reviewed company, a bargain-basement price, unwarranteed issues, or if they had at least made ANY effort to treat me reasonably as a new customer with a new-to-their-lineup (at the time of purchase) item, no problem. They failed in all of these respects.

WayaX
02-23-2010, 20:24
Thanks for the update on the hump...off to check mine out...

No hump-a-jujelage noticed. I have what I consider an inordinate number of scratches on the in- and out-side of my receiver, though. I sent it back when I first got it for this problem - they had a fit on the phone when I asked if the spots were something I could just touch-up with some Oxpho-Blu or another agent. When it came back, it was in worse shape than I sent it in - the box had been drop-kicked and had a big tear in the foam, the replaced handguard rails were broken again, and they spot-touched the finish wear - which promptly came off when I wiped it with a soft cloth. I never said another word to them. I never intended the rifle to be a safe queen. I certainly won't pay for another Sig product, though.

I picked the Sig556 because I had read so many great things about their products. To buy a new $1100 (at the time) gun and have problems out of the box that I had to pay $50 to have shipped to them, only to get it back in worse shape just is not something that leads me to give them a second chance. With so many other choices in the market, I will exercise my free market voice with my pocketbook. They already had several chances on the phone and via mail. I was very forgiving of the initial issues, and never raised a stink - just not how I act. Even if I end up selling it, I would do so with full disclosure to the buyer and expect to take a loss beyond the reasonable depreciation of the rifle. Not a situation that earns my business.

Had it been a dubiously-reviewed company, a bargain-basement price, unwarranteed issues, or if they had at least made ANY effort to treat me reasonably as a new customer with a new-to-their-lineup (at the time of purchase) item, no problem. They failed in all of these respects.

Where was the wear on your rifle? The Sig does exhibit a decent amount of wear, even for little shooting. The finish is very light on all parts of the rifle. The steel should be (as I have no proof of this) nitride treating, like a GLOCK.

I'll update on the customer service of Sig when I get my rifle back (or have a new one shipped out).

Out of all the companies I've dealt with, the best customer service goes to Heckler and Koch.