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Spen84107
02-16-2010, 21:53
For maybe 10 years, I've had this building, intense desire to own a 1911. The cost of them ALWAYS pushes me away. Yet.. the addiction remains... and I have this curse. I can't buy something unless it's in within reasonable range of the "top shelf". (That goes for everything from guns to electronics to the type of gas I buy for my car.). So that leaves me in the 100+ range for 1911's. The thought of spending 1000+ on a pistol seems ridiculous to me...I can't reason myself into it... but I can't stop looking at 1911's. Everytime I see one in a movie, everytime I see one at the gun shops, I go shopping. And everytime, I talk myself out of dropping over a grand on one.

How did YOU reason your purchase of a 1000.00 pistol purchase? Or was it more of a leap of faith type of thing?

:dunno:

bac1023
02-16-2010, 21:59
Honestly, $1000 is still the low end of the 1911 spectrum.

That said, a Dan Wesson or STI Trojan are great 1911s at just over $1000.

dakrat
02-16-2010, 22:02
How did YOU reason your purchase of a 1000.00 pistol purchase? Or was it more of a leap of faith type of thing?

:dunno:

its a cheap life insurance

bac1023
02-16-2010, 22:03
its a cheap life insurance

:rofl:

Quack
02-16-2010, 22:10
How did YOU reason your purchase of a 1000.00 pistol purchase?

bac1023 peer pressured me into it :rofl:

bac1023
02-16-2010, 22:11
i listened to bac1023 :rofl:


...and the rest is history. :tongueout:

ronin.45
02-16-2010, 22:13
It's not an unnatural desire. It's something that happens to all shooters eventually. Like puberty, it just means you are growing up.

Quack
02-16-2010, 22:14
after you buy your 1st one over $1000 it get's easier.
then the first +$2000 is hard to justify, but then the next are easier to buy.

Quack
02-16-2010, 22:15
...and the rest is history. :tongueout:

and now i'm looking at having one built :rofl:

bac1023
02-16-2010, 22:17
It's not an unnatural desire. It's something that happens to all shooters eventually. Like puberty, it just means you are growing up.

:goodpost:

brisk21
02-16-2010, 22:48
Well, you know you will never be satisfied until you get one so you may as well just do it. You also may as well get the one you really want, regardless of price and dont look back. Spending a few thousand on a nice 1911 isnt crazy. Well, that is if you only do it once or twice. My only other advice is that you shouldn't compermise, because if you do you will just find yourself on www.gunbroker.com (http://www.gunbroker.com) drueling over the gun you really want and should have bought.

dp509
02-16-2010, 23:05
Originally Posted by Quack
i listened to bac1023 :rofl:

Me too :supergrin:

He talked me into this.................

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/dp509/pgpd020710020.jpg

I am waiting on a duty holster for work
It is arriving two weeks early :supergrin:

I should have it by Friday :dancingbanana:

I chose this over a Kimber Tactial Custom II HD.

FYI: I have owned two Kimbers, both were flawless.

I had to sell them to pay bills.......But, look what I have now .......

bac1023
02-16-2010, 23:07
Glad you like the TRP. :)

ronin.45
02-16-2010, 23:17
Originally Posted by Quack
i listened to bac1023 :rofl:

Me too :supergrin:

He talked me into this.................

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/dp509/pgpd020710020.jpg

I am waiting on a duty holster for work
It is arriving two weeks early :supergrin:

I should have it by Friday :dancingbanana:

I chose this over a Kimber Tactial Custom II HD.

FYI: I have owned two Kimbers, both were flawless.

I had to sell them to pay bills.......But, look what I have now .......

That is one hell of a duty set-up.

Cobra64
02-16-2010, 23:37
It's not an unnatural desire. It's something that happens to all shooters eventually. Like puberty, it just means you are growing up.


:rofl:

bambikilr
02-16-2010, 23:50
especially since you hear so much about having to polish this & get a new this & that & modify this, so it's reliable for EDC...they're awsome, had a colt along time ago...yep my dumb butt sold it...but the expense is high

MD357
02-17-2010, 00:13
FWIW, there is no such thing as an "unnatural desire" for a 1911. :whistling::supergrin:

Goldendog Redux
02-17-2010, 00:22
Originally Posted by Quack
i listened to bac1023 :rofl:

Me too :supergrin:

He talked me into this.................

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/dp509/pgpd020710020.jpg

I am waiting on a duty holster for work
It is arriving two weeks early :supergrin:

I should have it by Friday :dancingbanana:

I chose this over a Kimber Tactial Custom II HD.

FYI: I have owned two Kimbers, both were flawless.

I had to sell them to pay bills.......But, look what I have now .......

Nice package. I hope the 47Ds function in your TRP. They sure do not in mine.

MF

bac1023
02-17-2010, 05:33
FWIW, there is no such thing as an "unnatural desire" for a 1911. :whistling::supergrin:

:agree:

PlasticGuy
02-17-2010, 05:46
Think about this: Most of us own several different combat handguns. Realistically, most of us only carry one at a time. What purpose do the rest serve? I'd rather have one or two wonderfully built 1911's than a basket full of Glocks or Sigs. If I'm only going to have one with me in the event I need to bet my life on it, I want it to be a really good one.

bac1023
02-17-2010, 05:55
Think about this: Most of us own several different combat handguns. Realistically, most of us only carry one at a time. What purpose do the rest serve? I'd rather have one or two wonderfully built 1911's than a basket full of Glocks or Sigs. If I'm only going to have one with me in the event I need to bet my life on it, I want it to be a really good one.

Well said.

Deployment Solu
02-17-2010, 06:09
The unnatural desire for a 1911?? No, sir, it is the Manliness of the 1911 that calls boys to be men and get REAL toys!!!!:whistling::rofl:

bac1023
02-17-2010, 06:10
The unnatural desire for a 1911?? No, sir, it is the Manliness of the 1911 that calls boys to be men and get REAL toys!!!!:whistling::rofl:

Well, it is a manly gun. :thumbsup:

brisk21
02-17-2010, 07:50
Originally Posted by Quack
i listened to bac1023 :rofl:

Me too :supergrin:

He talked me into this.................

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/dp509/pgpd020710020.jpg

I am waiting on a duty holster for work
It is arriving two weeks early :supergrin:

I should have it by Friday :dancingbanana:

I chose this over a Kimber Tactial Custom II HD.

FYI: I have owned two Kimbers, both were flawless.

I had to sell them to pay bills.......But, look what I have now .......


Nice! I have the same one. If those Wilson mags dont function, try Chip Mcormick Power Plus mags. They work perfectly in my TRP.

98_1LE
02-17-2010, 08:02
I agree it is not unnatural. Maybe not as natural as a crush on Megan Fox, but it seems to be pretty natural for many. :)

The first $1000 gun was hard, but I followed it up with a SA Mil-spec, which I sold in record time. I now have 2 >$1,000 1911's, and lust after another Fusion (hard chrome aluminum frame CCO), and have zero regrets with either.

This photo alone justifies my Fusion longslide:
http://i43.tinypic.com/28s1s2w.jpg

bac1023
02-17-2010, 08:15
Great shooting. :thumbsup:

glock2740
02-17-2010, 08:26
Honestly, $1000 is still the low end of the 1911 spectrum.


So very true. It cracks me up when I hear people *****ing about a Kimber that jammed during the first few mags when it cost $1000. A grand doesn't get you top of the line in the 1911 world.

bac1023
02-17-2010, 08:30
A grand doesn't get you top of the line in the 1911 world.

Nope.

A grand is low end, believe it or not.

I'd say midrange is between $1300 and $1800 or so.

124JHP
02-17-2010, 08:46
You can only find what a 1911 really is after you have fired and carried it! I cannot see myself without one :supergrin:

S9Man
02-17-2010, 09:58
You don't need to spend 1K. I seen a nice used model of the 1911 Norinco at a local shop for $450. I'd look at the used market. I have 3 1911's and 4 Glocks. The 1911's are the toys. The Glocks are the tools.

MacG22
02-17-2010, 10:01
The 1911's are the toys. The Glocks are the tools.

This sort of comment doesn't make any sense to me.

bac1023
02-17-2010, 10:02
The Glocks are the tools.


Yeah, they're tools alright. :rofl:

the iceman
02-17-2010, 10:33
The first 1911 I ever purchased was a old used Colt which I got for around $500. Nothing special about it, very plain jane but it was a first step in the right direction. Had I never purchased it, I never would have fallen for the 1911 bug.

Nothing about the hobby of firearms is cheap. There are some expensive pieces out there but if you are completely happy and it was meant to be, price means nothing.

bac1023
02-17-2010, 10:42
Nothing about the hobby of firearms is cheap.

Very true, especially considering ammo prices. :wow:


...of course, there aren't many cheap hobbies nowadays. ;)

dp509
02-17-2010, 11:09
Think about this: Most of us own several different combat handguns. Realistically, most of us only carry one at a time. What purpose do the rest serve? I'd rather have one or two wonderfully built 1911's than a basket full of Glocks or Sigs. If I'm only going to have one with me in the event I need to bet my life on it, I want it to be a really good one.

I AGREE :cool:

I have thinned down my collection to just a few (9mm Glock & 45 ACP TRP)
I sold my K frame, J frame (.22lr) and a extra hunting rifle to purchase the Springfield TRP.

Quack
02-17-2010, 11:24
Yeah, they're tools alright. :rofl:

:rofl:

Brian Brazier
02-17-2010, 12:30
Honestly the under $700 dollar market of 1911's is really good. I too like to get the top of the line stuff, but when it comes to 1911's the top tier isn't going to happen anytime soon, and why sit on the sidelines when there are great shooters for around $600. That is why I perchased a Springfield Mil Spec 1911, it has all the standard features I want, and it is under $600 which leves allot of room to make upgrades and buy ammo. So far I have done all the work myself which cuts down on cost, so far I have done the trigger, bought an EMC drop in hammer kit with the WWI wide spur hammer, flat mainspring housing, and stainless barrel bushing. I will be sending it to Springfield for new finish (bright blue), install an STI extended safety, and fit a Ed Brown chainlink mainspring housing with magwell. All in all still under $1,000 and with exception of maybe a bettter barrel and bushing this 1911 is exactly how I want it.

chuckman
02-17-2010, 12:38
First of all, the feeling is natural, not unnatural. Don't fight it.

Second, the 1911s in the sub-$700 range are the 1911 world's gateway drugs. You get one, then you are hooked, and it is a high/addiction that cannot be cured.

"Hello, my name is Chuckman, and I am a 1911-aholic."

Bill Lumberg
02-17-2010, 12:41
I was the same way for years. I've been issued glocks and personally owned glocks for a couple of decades. Never could shake a fascination with 1911's. I finally got one, and I wouldn't get rid of it for anything. No substitute for a glock, requires a little more care, but has an old school classic look and feel that are unparalleled.

For maybe 10 years, I've had this building, intense desire to own a 1911. The cost of them ALWAYS pushes me away. Yet.. the addiction remains... and I have this curse. I can't buy something unless it's in within reasonable range of the "top shelf". (That goes for everything from guns to electronics to the type of gas I buy for my car.). So that leaves me in the 100+ range for 1911's. The thought of spending 1000+ on a pistol seems ridiculous to me...I can't reason myself into it... but I can't stop looking at 1911's. Everytime I see one in a movie, everytime I see one at the gun shops, I go shopping. And everytime, I talk myself out of dropping over a grand on one.

How did YOU reason your purchase of a 1000.00 pistol purchase? Or was it more of a leap of faith type of thing?

:dunno:

JMiller
02-17-2010, 13:15
I once was a Glock guy. Sorry I bought a 1911 and now own 2 of them. When it comes time to go to the range I open my safe and see the Glocks(3) sitting next to my Dan Wesson and my Kimber I always seem to grab the 1911's and leave the Glocks right where they sit. It is just something you have to do to understand what it is all about. Kind of like sex you knew everyone liked it and you knew you wanted to try it but untill you did it you had no idea what you were missing out on. Kind of fits the puberty comment. Only not as clumbsy and squeaky as that though.

El_Ron1
02-17-2010, 13:15
Honestly the under $700 dollar market of 1911's is really good. I too like to get the top of the line stuff, but when it comes to 1911's the top tier isn't going to happen anytime soon, and why sit on the sidelines when there are great shooters for around $600. That is why I perchased a Springfield Mil Spec 1911, it has all the standard features I want, and it is under $600 which leves allot of room to make upgrades and buy ammo. So far I have done all the work myself which cuts down on cost, so far I have done the trigger, bought an EMC drop in hammer kit with the WWI wide spur hammer, flat mainspring housing, and stainless barrel bushing. I will be sending it to Springfield for new finish (bright blue), install an STI extended safety, and fit a Ed Brown chainlink mainspring housing with magwell. All in all still under $1,000 and with exception of maybe a bettter barrel and bushing this 1911 is exactly how I want it.Refreshing reality, won't get you into the backslapper's cardboard box club, but it will get you shooting and gaining real 1911 experience. :beer:

F350
02-17-2010, 13:20
For maybe 10 years, I've had this building, intense desire to own a 1911.


The desire to own a 1911 isNOT unnatural

Resisting the desire for 10 years IS

Dr. J Frame
02-17-2010, 16:42
How did YOU reason your purchase of a 1000.00 pistol purchase? Or was it more of a leap of faith type of thing?
Some people spend thousands on a new vehicle. I drive an old '91 Chevy 4x4 with 270,000 miles and still love it. My company even pays me $1,400/month vehicle pay so I could drive anything I wanted without cutting into my own income. I just pocket it.

But shooting sports are my life. I don't mind spending $2,000-$3,000 on a new firearm, or $1,500 on a new optic. I guess we all have different things that bring us happiness. My goal is to enjoy life and firearms bring me great enjoyment.

Perhaps it simply comes down to the ago-old saying, "If you have to ask, then you probably wouldn't understand". :)

ronin.45
02-17-2010, 18:29
Yeah, they're tools alright. :rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:

dober-man
02-17-2010, 19:07
No firearms collection is complete without at least one primo
1911!

Spen84107
02-17-2010, 20:54
Oh man... maybe it is unnatural to resist. The soon to be wife is not going to like you guys... I find myself figuring out what I'll sacrifice over the next couple months to buy one.

My brother owes me 500.00. He offered to give me his Taurus 1911 in repayment. Should I take the Taurus in payment? Or should I take the money and put it to a slightly better entry level?

bac1023
02-17-2010, 20:57
No firearms collection is complete without at least one primo
1911!

Hey, when you're right, you're right. :supergrin:

bac1023
02-17-2010, 20:59
Oh man... maybe it is unnatural to resist. The soon to be wife is not going to like you guys... I find myself figuring out what I'll sacrifice over the next couple months to buy one.

My brother owes me 500.00. He offered to give me his Taurus 1911 in repayment. Should I take the Taurus in payment? Or should I take the money and put it to a slightly better entry level?

Good God no.

The PT1911 has my vote as the worst 1911 on the current market.

Believe me, you need something nicer to start or you're going to end up spending more in the long run.

bac1023
02-17-2010, 21:01
Put that money towards an STI Trojan. :)


http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5629/0001690ud9.jpg

Spen84107
02-17-2010, 21:07
Good to know. I haven't done a hell of a lot of research on them. Again--I've been trying to avoid it. Research, I feared, would just inspire me, and feed the bug. : ) The Kimbers frequently catch my eye.. so maybe I'll have to start doing some research..

bac1023
02-17-2010, 21:31
Good to know. I haven't done a hell of a lot of research on them. Again--I've been trying to avoid it. Research, I feared, would just inspire me, and feed the bug. : ) The Kimbers frequently catch my eye.. so maybe I'll have to start doing some research..

If you want a Kimber, just go for the standard Custom II. You have to go to the top of the product range to find a real upgrade over their base model.

Mine has been flawless.


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/cutillo_2009/000_2542.jpg

Spen84107
02-17-2010, 21:41
If you want a Kimber, just go for the standard Custom II. You have to go to the top of the product range to find a real upgrade over their base model.

Mine has been flawless.


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/cutillo_2009/000_2542.jpg

She's certainly a beauty... Ugh.. It's like trying not to look at a really attractive woman when you're SO is around. hahah :supergrin:

bac1023
02-17-2010, 21:44
She's certainly a beauty... Ugh.. It's like trying not to look at a really attractive woman when you're SO is around. hahah :supergrin:

:rofl:

98_1LE
02-17-2010, 22:00
LOL. That is something we can all relate to.:rofl:

Ol'Slabsides
02-17-2010, 22:02
Nothing unnatural about lusting after the 1911. Now, unnatural would be checking out your buddy's longslide he's carrying in his Smartcarry... THAT would be unnatural, my friend.

That Kimber is a real beauty, Bac!! I had a Custom CDP II that I foolishly traded to a friend in a frenzy to get my hands on an Ed Brown KC. Thing shot great, shoulda never let her go....

bac1023
02-17-2010, 22:08
Nothing unnatural about lusting after the 1911. Now, unnatural would be checking out your buddy's longslide he's carrying in his Smartcarry... THAT would be unnatural, my friend.



:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

bac1023
02-17-2010, 22:10
That Kimber is a real beauty, Bac!! I had a Custom CDP II that I foolishly traded to a friend in a frenzy to get my hands on an Ed Brown KC. Thing shot great, shoulda never let her go....

Thanks.

I actually own a Pro CDP that I use for everyday carry.


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/cutillo_2009/000_2245.jpg

Spen84107
02-17-2010, 22:13
Nothing unnatural about lusting after the 1911. Now, unnatural would be checking out your buddy's longslide he's carrying in his Smartcarry... THAT would be unnatural, my friend.

That Kimber is a real beauty, Bac!! I had a Custom CDP II that I foolishly traded to a friend in a frenzy to get my hands on an Ed Brown KC. Thing shot great, shoulda never let her go....

:shocked: That made me a little uneasy. :rofl:

ambluemax
02-18-2010, 10:28
How did YOU reason your purchase of a 1000.00 pistol purchase? Or was it more of a leap of faith type of thing?

:dunno:

I shot a SA GI for awhile. Great gun, my first pistol, but it pretty quickly shows you why the $1000 pistols are worth the money. Then once you have a taste for the finer things in 1911's, you're pretty much hooked.

JBJ16
02-18-2010, 11:21
Think about this: Most of us own several different combat handguns. Realistically, most of us only carry one at a time. What purpose do the rest serve? I'd rather have one or two wonderfully built 1911's than a basket full of Glocks or Sigs. If I'm only going to have one with me in the event I need to bet my life on it, I want it to be a really good one.

If COMBAT is expected/imminent and a HANDGUN is the only weapon on hand,
I'd like mine to be a finely tuned 1911 in 45ACP. Thank you. :cool:

RedsoxFan4Lyfe
02-18-2010, 12:39
You dont need to spend $1K on a 1911 pistol.

Just as you dont need to spend $3K on a Rolex or an Omega to tell the time.


The 1911 can and will run fine with a lot less money into it than $1K. You can get a Colt 1911, blued for around $750 or so new. The Colt will run fine out of the box. Its not as tight or "smooth" as the Kimbers, but a 1911 was never meant to be tight.

You can get a Rock Island Armory 1911 for around $400 brand new. They are made just like the old USGI models. Loose and realiable.

You dont have to spend $1-2K on a 1911 to have a good 1911.

bac1023
02-18-2010, 12:55
You dont have to spend $1-2K on a 1911 to have a good 1911.

You're right, you don't have to.

However, the models above entry level are worth the money.

RedsoxFan4Lyfe
02-18-2010, 16:27
You're right, you don't have to.

However, the models above entry level are worth the money.

I dont doubt it. They are very nice. I agree completely.
I just try to tell people they CAN get a good and reliable 1911 without selling a limb.

I have a long burning desire for a Wilson or Baer myself. :supergrin:

Glock30 Guy
02-18-2010, 16:38
You can't take it with you! I just bought my first 1911 this week after much waiting. Partially based on cost but also not sure if I liked that style. I'm a new convert. Buy one!

bac1023
02-18-2010, 17:22
I just try to tell people they CAN get a good and reliable 1911 without selling a limb.



Oh yeah, I say it all the time as well, especially since so many uninformed members over in General Glocking think you have to spend a small fortune to get a reliable 1911.

Magus
02-18-2010, 17:42
If you want a Kimber, just go for the standard Custom II. You have to go to the top of the product range to find a real upgrade over their base model.

Mine has been flawless.


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/cutillo_2009/000_2542.jpg

This pic is makin' me miss my old Series 1 Custom Royal. Nice deep blue finish on the flats and some really nice rosewood grips. I really loved that gun, but the thing just wouldn't feed to save its soul. :crying:

Nutt51
02-18-2010, 17:55
As stated already, nothing unnatural about wanting a 1911.
I'm dating myself, but in 1972 I purchased my first Colt 1911
brand new. blued, Govt. model .45acp. NIB for $168.00.
They are not going to get cheaper.
Save your money and get yourself a good quality basic 1911.
You can customize and build it to your specs. a little at a time,
and you'll change your mind more than once.
Life's too short not to enjoy some little pleasures.
Your not talking about buying an expensive sports car or
power boat. Get one when you can and enjoy yourself.

bac1023
02-18-2010, 17:59
Good advice.