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TexasVine
02-22-2010, 19:47
Trying to decide between a Springfield Black Stainless Loaded Target or a Kimber Stainless TLE II or a Kimber Stainless Raptor. I'm basing a lot of my decision on looks and that is why I have gravitated to these guns. Used to have a Kimber Raptor (regular finish) years ago an kind of regret trading it. This is going to be for my birthday from my wife so I'm trying to take my time making sure I get a good 1911. I also open to suggestion other than these guns in the same price range or less.

Thanks for any input you can offer.

bac1023
02-22-2010, 20:26
See if you can talk her into a Springfield TRP. :supergrin:


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_1679.jpg

Quack
02-22-2010, 20:55
shop around, for a little more (over the black stanless) you can get a TRP or Trophy Match

samuse
02-22-2010, 21:07
I'm with Bac. I just don't like Kimber because of their Swartz safety and I hate front cocking serrations. And the word Kimber. If I needed a gun, a Springfield would do, but wouldn't be my first choice because of their mixed up spring weights, firing pin, 3 click hammer and a lock in their mainspring housing. IF I were to buy a Springfield, it would be a TRP, but then I'd ditch the long trigger, flat MSH, ambi-safety, & FLGR. Just so I could live with TACTICAL stamped in the dustcover and FCS? Naa.

glock2740
02-22-2010, 21:30
I would say TRP, yet I own a Stainless Custom Raptor and it's very accurate and reliable. Toss a coin:cool:

glock2740
02-22-2010, 21:31
To the OP, if looks are a factor, then Kimber Stainless Raptor all the way.

Rimcrew
02-22-2010, 21:59
IMHO, Dan Wesson has some of the best looking, best functioning guns in that price range.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o298/kellyfletcher1970/COTEP/003.jpg?t=1266900071

TexasVine
02-22-2010, 22:43
IMHO, Dan Wesson has some of the best looking, best functioning guns in that price range.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o298/kellyfletcher1970/COTEP/003.jpg?t=1266900071

What price range are the Wesson's in?

Rimcrew
02-22-2010, 23:10
What price range are the Wesson's in?

That's not an easy question to answer right now as DW is in the middle of upgrading the quality of their 1911's, and the pricing will see an increase for 2010 models.

If you don't mind a gently used piece, the CBOB's can be found for between $950 and $1150, Heritages go from $850 to $950, and Valors can be found around $1200. New CBOB's seem to be around $1350, Heritages around $1150, and I have no clue on the Valors but expect them to be around $1450ish for SS.

If you can find one, fondle a CBOB and see if you don't came away impressed with the quality at that price-point.

PlasticGuy
02-22-2010, 23:11
With the exception of the Kimber Super Match, only the relatively basic Kimbers are a good deal. Their Custom II and their TLE are the only Kimbers that I would consider to be a good deal for the money. Between that and the Super Match, you get a lot of fluff for a lot more money, but they don't shoot any better. I love my series I Stainless and my series I Super Match, and have sold everything between those extremes.

Springfield is different because the quality does generally increase as the price goes up. I agree with the group that the TRP is probably the best deal for the money, but I haven't found any Springfield 1911 to be overpriced for what you get. I have become quite fond of my Operator.

bac1023
02-23-2010, 04:00
With the exception of the Kimber Super Match, only the relatively basic Kimbers are a good deal. Their Custom II and their TLE are the only Kimbers that I would consider to be a good deal for the money. Between that and the Super Match, you get a lot of fluff for a lot more money, but they don't shoot any better. I love my series I Stainless and my series I Super Match, and have sold everything between those extremes.



My thoughts exactly.

Line Rider
02-23-2010, 18:48
+1 Springfield over a Kimber any day.

Kurly
02-23-2010, 19:14
IMHO, Dan Wesson has some of the best looking, best functioning guns in that price range.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o298/kellyfletcher1970/COTEP/003.jpg?t=1266900071


Not to threadjack, but Rimcrew, where did you get those grips and what type of wood is that?

bac1023
02-23-2010, 19:14
+1 Springfield over a Kimber any day.

Ultimately yes, below a grand, no.

I'll take a Custom II over a Loaded any day.







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Don-wayne
02-23-2010, 19:21
I love my supermatch but they are no deal for the money. I agree the basic is a good deal but after that they get a little out of line.

TexasVine
02-23-2010, 19:48
Guys thanks for the input. Saw a para Super Hawg today that caught my eye and has made my buying process a day longer. I think I'm leaning towards a Stainless TLE II but you know how the wind can change before the moment of purchase!

CanyonMan
02-23-2010, 20:23
Ultimately yes, below a grand, no.

I'll take a Custom II over a Loaded any day..



Agreed



CM

RetailNinja
02-23-2010, 20:34
Trying to decide between a Springfield Black Stainless Loaded Target or a Kimber Stainless TLE II or a Kimber Stainless Raptor. I'm basing a lot of my decision on looks and that is why I have gravitated to these guns. Used to have a Kimber Raptor (regular finish) years ago an kind of regret trading it. This is going to be for my birthday from my wife so I'm trying to take my time making sure I get a good 1911. I also open to suggestion other than these guns in the same price range or less.

Thanks for any input you can offer.

Kimber Eclipse - Black stainless look / Kimber gun

PlasticGuy
02-24-2010, 03:22
Ultimately yes, below a grand, no.

I'll take a Custom II over a Loaded any day.
I agree.

Brian Brazier
02-24-2010, 11:07
This TRP is a great buy http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/774/products_id/411538885

sapper1911
02-24-2010, 12:43
I used a Kimber TLE2 for a duty gun for 1 1/2 years without complaint. Sold it to by a TLEII/RL that I'm currently using. No probs with either. I owned Springfields in the past as well with nothin bad to say about them. Its a personal choice but what sold me on the kimbers were the front strap checkering on the TLE.

Nowhere Man
02-24-2010, 13:07
Here's my SA Loaded black stainless Target model. I shoot this in IDPA so, I've had a trigger job and Dawson FO front site installed.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/sharksnufr/SALoaded002.jpg

I'd like to say I never had a problem but I don't like to lie. It had to make two trips back for service. My service experience was great!! They paid shipping both ways and had it back to me in 8 days. The second time they even refinished the slide.

Blemishes on the slide from holster wear is easily removed with 1200 emry cloth. Try that with a blued gun.


Dave