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LarryD1130
03-01-2010, 20:57
I was sitting in my living room when my mum told me she thought she heard somebody open my gate to my yard. I didn't hear anything so I didn't think too much about it. Then like 5 seconds later I heard this big crash in my backyard. I went to grab my Glock and remembered I didn't have any bullets in it because I forgot to load it after I came back from the range.(STUPID) So I went and grabbed my AR and went outside with it and a flashlight. I could see tracks going from my front yard to my back yard and over my fence but I didn't see anybody. I let my dog out (German Shepherd) and he was sniffing all over the place and wanted to go after whoever it was but I didn't let him.

Anyways, I noticed it would be a lot better if I added a light to my AR. So it wouldn't be so awkward at night time. What light should I get? I figure something Surefire but I don't know what model to get. I would also have to get some type of rail system to attach it to. What is a good brand/model for that? I also want a vertical grip so I can have something with a momentary on pad/switch on it. What is a good vertical grip brand/model? Since we are talking about grips, I was thinking about the last time I was at a gun show and I held an AR with a nice rubber grip on it. What is a good rubber grip to get? Hogue? Model? Thanks in advance.

JTLIII
03-01-2010, 21:02
I'm curious about a light for the same reason

mikeyU
03-01-2010, 21:20
I have a tlr-1 on my Ar ,good if you have a rail already, I keep it on the gun all the time. I have seen different ways to attach a tac light to an Ar which looked fine to me just look around.Also you may want some type of optics. I have an eotech and am going to add a magnifier. Besides those, maybe a sling if you like. Keep it light weight.

Mochahooligan
03-01-2010, 21:25
I just bought this one for my 6920 and Ilove it!
http://www.surefire.com/M900A-Vertical-Foregrip
Ihave a Surefire quad rail on it and put this light on it and Ithink I made the right choice. I also have a ACOG on order and cant wait to se that on my Colt. It all boils down to what you want $ you have to spend.

Hef
03-01-2010, 21:52
I have a Primary Arms light mounted on the YHM railed FF tube of my 16" Bushy. It works very well. I can clearly identify my neighbors at 100 yards.

LarryD1130
03-01-2010, 22:48
I want to get a good sling for my rifle but I hear so much different stuff I just don't know which one to get. I was thinking about adding a holo or an ACOG but I don't have the money for that right now. One day. I want to buy some more guns before I add a lot of stuff to the ones I have.

ArmoryDoc
03-02-2010, 01:13
Get a Troy drop in (mine is EXCELLENT) and a VLTOR offset light mount (love it) with a Surefire 6P LED.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Troy-Ind-Tactical-Free-Float-Carbine-p/troy%20mrf%20di.htm

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Vltor-Off-Set-Scout-Mount-p/vltor%20sm-ocg.htm

glock22357
03-02-2010, 04:29
I want to get a good sling for my rifle but I hear so much different stuff I just don't know which one to get. I was thinking about adding a holo or an ACOG but I don't have the money for that right now. One day. I want to buy some more guns before I add a lot of stuff to the ones I have.

...everyone's got them!!!:rofl:

I had a sling on my S&W M&P15T when I got it, but ended up taking it off. When something goes bump in the night, I don't want it in the way when I grab and charge my rifle. I'm not in the Military, I don't march mile after mile or stand gaurd with my rifle. Even when I'm at the range, I'm never carrying it more than 100 yards out to and back from replacing the target.

I have a Surefire weapon light with a pressure pad that fits into a recess in my Tango Down VFG mounted on my fore-rail, and this works very well. I also have an Eotech 552, which works very well in the dark.

I too am interested in an ACOG, and hope to get a TA31CH as soon as my employment situation improves. Everyone here talks about hitting at 100+ yards with iron sights, and I have 20/20 vision, but making out a target at anything past 50 yards seems difficult. I dunno, maybe I just use small targets.

Waffen Monk
03-02-2010, 06:06
I just bought this one for my 6920 and Ilove it!
http://www.surefire.com/M900A-Vertical-Foregrip
Ihave a Surefire quad rail on it and put this light on it and Ithink I made the right choice. I also have a ACOG on order and cant wait to se that on my Colt. It all boils down to what you want $ you have to spend.

Sounds like you'll have a pretty sweet setup...please post pics when you mount the acog :wavey:

JASV.17
03-02-2010, 07:24
Get a Troy drop in (mine is EXCELLENT) and a VLTOR offset light mount (love it) with a Surefire 6P LED.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Troy-Ind-Tactical-Free-Float-Carbine-p/troy%20mrf%20di.htm

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Vltor-Off-Set-Scout-Mount-p/vltor%20sm-ocg.htm

This is exactly what I have, though the light is a G2 LED. Works great mounted at 12:00.

OP, for a vert grip, I have the Larue FUG. I love it for several reasons. First, it comes with three different handsize "plugs", so you can change the length of it. Second, it has a quick detach lever. On and off in a second. It's very sturdy.

For a sling, I like a single point. I have a Gear Sector single point (great company) attached to a Noveske QD endplate (also purchased from Gear Sector).

<a href="http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm13/postanon/?action=view&current=bcm1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm13/postanon/bcm1.jpg" border="0" alt="m41"></a>

kabob983
03-02-2010, 08:27
I just bought this one for my 6920 and Ilove it!
http://www.surefire.com/M900A-Vertical-Foregrip
Ihave a Surefire quad rail on it and put this light on it and Ithink I made the right choice. I also have a ACOG on order and cant wait to se that on my Colt. It all boils down to what you want $ you have to spend.

That'd be my first choice as well but it's VERY expensive!

LarryD1130
03-02-2010, 12:47
...everyone's got them!!!:rofl:

I had a sling on my S&W M&P15T when I got it, but ended up taking it off. When something goes bump in the night, I don't want it in the way when I grab and charge my rifle. I'm not in the Military, I don't march mile after mile or stand gaurd with my rifle. Even when I'm at the range, I'm never carrying it more than 100 yards out to and back from replacing the target.

I have a Surefire weapon light with a pressure pad that fits into a recess in my Tango Down VFG mounted on my fore-rail, and this works very well. I also have an Eotech 552, which works very well in the dark.

I too am interested in an ACOG, and hope to get a TA31CH as soon as my employment situation improves. Everyone here talks about hitting at 100+ yards with iron sights, and I have 20/20 vision, but making out a target at anything past 50 yards seems difficult. I dunno, maybe I just use small targets.

LOL. Me too. The first time I went to the range my groups at 100+ yards with the irons weren't so great. I was using 12x12 targets. I did hit the bullseye once but I think it was pure luck.

LarryD1130
03-02-2010, 12:49
This is exactly what I have, though the light is a G2 LED. Works great mounted at 12:00.

OP, for a vert grip, I have the Larue FUG. I love it for several reasons. First, it comes with three different handsize "plugs", so you can change the length of it. Second, it has a quick detach lever. On and off in a second. It's very sturdy.

For a sling, I like a single point. I have a Gear Sector single point (great company) attached to a Noveske QD endplate (also purchased from Gear Sector).

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm13/postanon/bcm1.jpg (http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm13/postanon/?action=view&current=bcm1.jpg)

At first I was going to get a 2 point sling that goes into a 1 point but now I think I'll just stick with a good 2 point but I don't know which one yet.

BEER
03-02-2010, 17:43
personally i'd look into getting another dog, preferably one that would alert to a noise outside before my mother. lol

MalinoisK9
03-02-2010, 18:53
I have one of these http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_330&products_id=1916 on my AR mounted in this http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=87&categoryId=80 fairly light set up and I know the Quark lights are great from experience with them. Of course this requires a rail to mount it on but you can buy some and attach it to your factory hand guard or front sight in a different mount.

Is your Shepherd trained?

Mochahooligan
03-02-2010, 19:30
Sounds like you'll have a pretty sweet setup...please post pics when you mount the acog :wavey:

I will I think the ACOG will be coming soon they clled for the credit card info and that mens shiping soon!

Mochahooligan
03-02-2010, 19:33
That'd be my first choice as well but it's VERY expensive!

Yea it is but....... I got a REAL GOOD price on it!

furioso2112
03-02-2010, 19:49
I use a SureFire G2 (about $60 (?) at Home Depot, and plenty of light for me - I have a bit of woods 35' off my back door. I have a...(forget the name, and don't want to grab it right now cause I don't want to wake my wife/child who are near the bed-side safe the gun is in) I can make it work on the AR (with a DD Lite 12" rail) and my Glock, but the Glock is a bit of work, as the screws barely reach. I can also mount it on my shotgun (have a small forward rail on it).

I like my Ergo grip - it's nearly as big as a 12-oz. aluminum can and I can get perfect grip on it, and I use an Ergo Rite-pull (extends the grip backwards so I can just reach the trigger perfectly with a proper grip, and also use a MagPul BAD lever (trigger finger bolt release) and a Brownell's extended mag release. This allows me to operate the rifle more easily one-handed, in case I need to hold a dog leash with the other hand, or a phone, cuffs, or whatever. I also use a MagPul AFG (angled fore-grip) - it is the perfect fore grip for me. Fits just right the way I like to hold the rifle, allows good position to operate the light when it's mounted on the rifle (I can push the back button or rotate the knob to keep it on constantly). I also use MagPul's little two-piece rail covers. I am not sold on those, though - I would prefer a more rubberized/positive grip - maybe some stippling or different material would be better.

jmack37
03-02-2010, 21:07
My recommendations:

1) Daniel Defense Omega carbine length rail. Gives you free floating rail without gunsmithing or permanent change to your 6920.
2) VTAC light mount. Inexpensive and sturdy. Designed by a master.
3) VTAC wide padded sling. Very comfy and functional.
4) Surefire G2 or 6P LED. Get a 'forward clicky' tailcap switch.

Jake

LarryD1130
03-03-2010, 00:10
What is the best rail system? I need to get that before anything so I'll spend whatever on that. I also need to know what the best sling is.

msoprano
03-03-2010, 01:02
I went with a MI midlength ff tube, stubby tango down, and a tlr-1. So far I really like this setup.

I don't want to sound preachy at all, but...Be careful when clearing outside areas. Last time I confronted somebody, it was the fenced yard of my parent's home in a wooded area. It turned out to be a sheriff's deputy serving a warrant on an adjacent home. It's a nice neighborhood too. I would have hated to be pointing a weapon mounted light at him. Somebody could have been killed, or worse, my dog could have been hurt. Either way, it's lose/lose for me.

kabob983
03-03-2010, 07:44
What is the best rail system? I need to get that before anything so I'll spend whatever on that. I also need to know what the best sling is.

There are a ton of good options from the very expensive (Daniel Defense, Troy, LaRue) to the middle of the road (Midwest Industries, YHM).

Most popular rail is probably the Daniel Defense Omega rail, you can install it by yourself in a few mins with no mods to your AR. I really like their Lite rails as well, but they require some work to install.

kabob983
03-03-2010, 12:02
What is the best rail system? I need to get that before anything so I'll spend whatever on that. I also need to know what the best sling is.

DD Omega X 12" rail back in stock (and on massive sale, almost 50% off) at Bravo Co.
Link (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Daniel-Defense-OMEGA-12-0-FSP-Rail-p/dd%2010005.htm)

It's a heck of a long rail (works with Carbine-length gas systems though).

SIGShooter
03-03-2010, 13:14
This is the one I have:

http://www.surefire.com/M961XM07-with-Dual-Thumbscrew-Mount

It is a big light. It is extremely bright but it is BIG. I didn't realize how big it was going to be until I actually mounted it on my 6920. I am ditching it and going with...

http://www.surefire.com/M300A-MiniScoutLight

OR

http://www.surefire.com/Scout-Lightsupsup

It drops the lumens down to 110, but it's an LED based light. I get longer run time on the batteries and a crisper style of light. The pro's to this light will be...

Lighter
Smaller/Compact
LED
Battery Life
Crisper light
More focused beam

I guess the only con's I have come up with...

Lower Lumens
Less "Flood" effect of light

I have the X300 pistol light that is LED. It has 110 Lumens of output and it puts to shame all the other pistol lights I have owned. For only being 110 lumens, the damn this hurts when you get hit with the beam.

Just my opinions. YMMV

SIGShooter
03-03-2010, 13:22
At first I was going to get a 2 point sling that goes into a 1 point but now I think I'll just stick with a good 2 point but I don't know which one yet.


Vickers Tactical Sling

http://vickerstactical.com/larry-vickers-products/vickers-combat-sling/

SIGShooter
03-03-2010, 13:24
What is the best rail system? I need to get that before anything so I'll spend whatever on that. I also need to know what the best sling is.


Surefire M73 Rail. I have it on my 6920 and the thing is awesome! I've had it for about 4 years now and haven't had a single issue with it al all.

http://www.surefire.com/M73-AR-M4-Picatinny-Forend

LarryD1130
03-06-2010, 23:30
Ok here is some stuff I was thinking about getting.

1. Daniel Defense Omega Rail 7.0
2. Viking Tactics Wide Padded Sling

Now some other stuff I want is a good grip, and a good vertical grip. Any suggestions?

I was also wondering if I should change my regular Colt 6920 stock with something like a Magpul one. I think the stock one is pretty good but I want to here what yinz think.

Nestor
03-07-2010, 00:46
Just buy the ammo and shoot the hell out of it.

kabob983
03-07-2010, 08:32
Ok here is some stuff I was thinking about getting.

1. Daniel Defense Omega Rail 7.0
2. Viking Tactics Wide Padded Sling

Now some other stuff I want is a good grip, and a good vertical grip. Any suggestions?

I was also wondering if I should change my regular Colt 6920 stock with something like a Magpul one. I think the stock one is pretty good but I want to here what yinz think.

All of the things you're mentioning are 100% personal preference. If you can you need to go to a shop and see what you like.

DD Omega rail is great, but it's personal preference. VTAC sling is great but it too is personal preference.

For VFGs look at Daniel Defense, LaRue, Tango Down, and a few others. For pistol grips the popular choices are the standard A2 grip, the Tango Down Battlegrip, ERGO Suregrip, Magpul's MOE and MIAD...and probably a few others I can't remember off the top of my head. For buttstocks Magpul is great as are VLTOR and LMT's SOPMOD.

You've just entered the dreaded area of Black Rifle Disease. Buying the initial firearm is the cheap part, giving it the Barbie doll treatment is where the $$ comes in :supergrin:

Hef
03-07-2010, 08:36
I have a YHM Diamond series carbine-length railed free-float tube on my rifle and I'm very happy with it. I used to have a rifle-length tube but I decided to go for a lighter, more functional setup.

crazymoose
03-07-2010, 12:39
What is the best rail system? I need to get that before anything so I'll spend whatever on that. I also need to know what the best sling is.

Both come down largely to personal preference.

As far as rails go that don't require any tools to install, I'm a huge fan of the VLTOR CASV-EL. I like it because it mounts very solidly, and allows you to screw rail sections on only where you need them. And Navy EOD uses them, which adds some cool points. Be aware, though, that if you use an optic, you'll need a low mount to keep a co-witness with your irons, because the rail clamps to the top of the receiver and acts as a riser.

ArmoryDoc
03-08-2010, 00:08
The best rail system is the Knights Armament. Best relative to budget and need ? As listed in the other posts.

kabob983
03-08-2010, 08:42
The best rail system is the Knights Armament.

I'm not sure it's "the best" although it certainly is the most expensive. IMHO Daniel Defense and LaRue are every bit as good.

rem2429
03-15-2010, 15:00
I have a light on my rifle, but I now have some high discharge lights for the backyard. They light all of it up beyond my porch, to about 100 yards away. I can stay in the shadows near the house. There is a switch in my bedroom, and downstairs. It costs about the same as a surefire light and works well for parties!

rem2429
03-15-2010, 15:01
I'm not sure it's "the best" although it certainly is the most expensive. IMHO Daniel Defense and LaRue are every bit as good.

Are you considering the cost of a front sight vs. integrated?

crazymoose
03-15-2010, 18:22
Are you considering the cost of a front sight vs. integrated?

It's about $200 more than most of the competitors, so even allowing $100 for a front sight (and I think a Troy flip-up is better than the integrated KAC, for what it's worth), it's still about $100 more. What $475 (give or take) buys you is a heavy rail which requires professional installation or a substantial investment in tools. What else are you paying for? The QD sockets? Most of the competitors have those, too. I haven't seen any destructive durability testing between the URX II and others, but there's no reason for me to believe that it's more durable than a DD Lite, LaRue, VLTOR, or other premium rail system, and it's heavier and more expensive.

That said, KAC is the new HK, and some people will pay anything for the brand.

GenoTac Ind.
03-17-2010, 00:55
Fenix TK11 On KZ 1" light mount, mounted on front gas block on my frankengun....
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/gllaguno/P3150088.jpg