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nostradumass
03-02-2010, 13:23
The Walmart near me said they have 20 boxes of this 9mm. Anyone used it and thoughs?

James Markov
03-02-2010, 13:26
I am curious also...

Nubbins
03-02-2010, 14:00
Walmart here also has RWS as of today, I never heard of it and didn't want to be the guinea pig. I hope this is temporary.

ronin.45
03-02-2010, 14:03
I've used RWS ammo in other calibers and it was good quality. I would have a hard time paying $17 a box for it though.

skanless
03-02-2010, 14:04
$19 for a box of 50. No Thanks. :animlol:

nostradumass
03-02-2010, 14:12
$16.95 Box of 50 near here.

das9mm26
03-02-2010, 14:19
My local Wally World just got some RWS 9mm in, too....
$14.97/50.....
Thanks...I'll pass......:whistling:
Of course... right now, the RWS is the ONLY 9mm in-store.
In fact, it's the only handgun caliber they have in stock...PERIOD!!:steamed:
Guess it's wait time....for the return of the Federal Champion @ $9.47/50...

JFrame
03-02-2010, 14:27
I use RWS pellets in my various air guns. They are premium stuff, and perform accordingly. That quality makes a bit of a difference in air guns, but I'm not sure how much it could matter in a 9mm to offset the price difference against cheaper loads.

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nostradumass
03-02-2010, 14:37
My local Wally World just got some RWS 9mm in, too....
$14.97/50.....
Thanks...I'll pass......:whistling:
Of course... right now, the RWS is the ONLY 9mm in-store.
In fact, it's the only handgun caliber they have in stock...PERIOD!!:steamed:
Guess it's wait time....for the return of the Federal Champion @ $9.47/50...


You think they will sell ammo for $10 again?

REA9mm
03-02-2010, 14:40
Can't comment on quality, but I did see my wal-mart selling the RWS for $16.95/50. I picked up a box of Winchester 147gr JHP's for $15.95/50 instead.

CBennett
03-02-2010, 15:29
The Walmart near me said they have 20 boxes of this 9mm. Anyone used it and thoughs?

no, because its too expensive lol...I looked at that had about the same and no one else had touched it either....because right next to the $16 box of RWS was $9.97 boxes of Federal(now mine) and WWB for $10.97...so nah I didnt waste the extra $6 just to check it out :) . I mean hell its practice ammo(the stuff I was looking at) how much better can it be than the regular 9MM ammo I can get from between $9.97-12 a box??

CBennett
03-02-2010, 15:31
You think they will sell ammo for $10 again?

they DO, I just picked up 3 boxes of Federal 115 round nose ammo YESTERDAY for $9.97 and a box of Remington JHP's the 100 box for $25 which roughly = out to what $12.50 / 50 for hollow points....I left several boxes of $10.97 WWB 9mm ammo as my gun disagrees with that ammo :) . also got some American Eagle 147 grain ammo from the local mom and pop for $11.20 a box...

H&K 4 LIFE
03-02-2010, 16:55
Scored a box at WM today for $18 after tax. :wow:

They said they got 20 boxes and wouldn't be getting anymore. :dunno:

Turns out this stuff is 124gr. Different than WWB, Blazer, and Federal which are all 115gr.

For $18 a box, I guess we'll see how it shoots. :supergrin:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8886/sdc10576.jpg

Thrillhouse700
03-02-2010, 17:01
ridiculous............ my local turners always has 9mm luger remmington and priced at 14.99. I usually buy online anyways so it wont matter until the new law.

Deaf Smith
03-02-2010, 18:47
Notice the 'made in Switzerland' on the box.

That explains the price. But being FMJ it has better be miles ahead of the Federal stuff at Wal-mart for $9.49, ok?

Deaf

DEADLYACCURATE
03-02-2010, 19:08
:animlol: :rofl: :uglylol: :supergrin: pay that for fmj at walmart

gruntmedik
03-02-2010, 20:55
You must have been reading my mind. Between the 3 wally worlds I was at today, I prolly saw 100 boxes of this stuff. I was just getting ready to post a thread like this, but decided to use the handy search feature first.

MetalSlugIV
03-02-2010, 21:57
I picked up two boxes of this stuff just this evening. It was the cheapest they had at my wally world and it's the same grain as the stuff I pack for SD. I figure I'll give them a try and see if I like it.

mdfd
03-02-2010, 22:08
let us know what you think of it. I also noticed it is 124 gr vs. the 115gr of the others. The box said "match grade" so I'm curious if there is any discernable difference between these and the other cheaper brands...

Scored a box at WM today for $18 after tax. :wow:

They said they got 20 boxes and wouldn't be getting anymore. :dunno:

Turns out this stuff is 124gr. Different than WWB, Blazer, and Federal which are all 115gr.

For $18 a box, I guess we'll see how it shoots. :supergrin:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8886/sdc10576.jpg

I picked up two boxes of this stuff just this evening. It was the cheapest they had at my wally world and it's the same grain as the stuff I pack for SD. I figure I'll give them a try and see if I like it.

Z71bill
03-02-2010, 22:39
A real American only shoots American made ammo in their Austrian pistols. :tongueout:






Someone post how this stuff works.

unit1069
03-02-2010, 23:01
$16.95 Box of 50 near here.

That's what it was at my local Wal-Mart this morning.

I decided to pass on it. Now that ammo is becoming more available I don't like the idea that I'm being asked to pay up for range ammo.

Maybe some retailers are holding out for high prices now that Spring is just around the corner. Lots of pent-up shooters will be hitting the outdoor ranges.

hoffy
03-02-2010, 23:24
RWS usd to be made in Germany I believe, but a few years ago a bunch of manufacturers merged and they are now a Swiss concern. I worked in a gun shop years ago back in the '80s and RWS was the only source for some o the old European calibers and it was quite expensive. I think that RWS, Rotweill, Dynabit-Nobel, Geco, are all under what used to be RUAG of Switzerland, but grad school has kept me occupied the last few years. I can't think of the name but there is a Swedish, Norwegian, and Finish company that makes all kinds of crazy stuff, but mostly military, except Lapua. These are the guys who came up with the RAUFOSS(sp) rounds, they wanted to make 50BMG nearly as effective as a 20mm cannon. They have something like a tungsten core surrounded by titanium sponge and RDX, nasty stuff, and very expensive for civilians, and I think a lot of it is just incendiary painted with the right color. BTW, Winchester(OLIN) has had its ammo made in Israel and the Czech Republic.

das9mm26
03-03-2010, 14:10
You think they will sell ammo for $10 again?
They had better, if they expect to stay competitive....
If their plan is to "substitute" $10/ box ammo for $16/box stuff...a LOT of folks will be taking a hike elsewhere for our "needs"....!!!
BTW....I DID "score" some WWB .45ACP 100rnd. @ Wally today!!!:jumpingjacks:

alexanderg23
03-03-2010, 14:19
yeah I saw that there last time, guy said it was $11 a box though, ended up getting a 100rd box of 40 S&W Remington 180gr for $32.99, it wasn't until I got home that I learned they were HP's, just can't bring myself to shoot em, tell me when you see some RWS for 40S&W

Russ in PA
03-03-2010, 18:35
I saw that stuff at my WalMart last night. I think it was $14.97/.

The boxes read "RWS SportLine". I've never seen that designation before, guess it's their value line?

MetalSlugIV
03-03-2010, 18:53
I just went to the range this afternoon. I never fired 124 gr. before I fired RWS. Now keep in mind I'm still pretty new to shooting.

RWS didn't turn my fingers black while loading it from loose powder like WWB and the Remington UMC did. The RWS seems accurate. Then again I'm not the person to ask because I'm still learning. I didn't have any FTF or FTE's but I only fired 100 rounds of them. For comparison I had one FTE with the UMC I was shooting in the same session.

They are more expensive than WWB at my local wal-mart because they are 124 grain. I won't be buying them to practice with because I'm switching from 124 gr. Speer Gold Dot (I got them at a gun show and they look kinda old) to Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr. That way I can afford to practice with the same pressure and weight I will be carrying for SD.

FCastle88
03-03-2010, 19:08
My local Walmart just got about 20 boxes of this for 16.97, I can go to Dunhams and get american eagle or speer lawman for the same price, is this stuff worth the extra $5.50 a box over WWB?

mboylan
03-04-2010, 21:15
RWS is not Wal-Mart ammo. It's match stuff. I don't think they will be stocking it for long. Won't sell.

kahrcarrier
03-05-2010, 05:09
I bought two boxes on a whim yesterday...........Haven't fired any of it.

The only 9mm in stock at the Wal-Mart I went in.

I really don't see me buying any more of it unless that is all I can find.

CBennett
03-05-2010, 05:48
The Walmart near me said they have 20 boxes of this 9mm. Anyone used it and thoughs?

yeah its EXPENSIVE and I cant see why it would be almost double what I paid for the Federal 9mm that was $9.97 that I actually did buy that was right next to it on the shelf...thats my thought. Im assuming if someone whants to shoot a bullseye match and they dont handload and this proves more accurate than "regular" stuff they may be able to sell it...but to me...just some guy that wants to go punch holes...no thanks.

mboylan
03-07-2010, 22:09
yeah its EXPENSIVE and I cant see why it would be almost double what I paid for the Federal 9mm that was $9.97 that I actually did buy that was right next to it on the shelf...thats my thought. Im assuming if someone whants to shoot a bullseye match and they dont handload and this proves more accurate than "regular" stuff they may be able to sell it...but to me...just some guy that wants to go punch holes...no thanks.

The thing is that most people who compete in the US have their own pet load or buy from a custom loader like Atlanta Arms. I buy cheap ammo for the cases. It's cheaper than buying new brass.

1911ShooterDude
03-07-2010, 23:24
My Walmarts have been flush with 9mm ammo. So much that I'm now passing on most of it. But I cannot resist the 250 rnd packs of Remington UMC. I've got 10 of those now tucked away for the Zombie days (and you know it) that are a coming.

medres97501
03-17-2010, 22:20
I think the RWS 9mm just hit my local WM - lots and lots of it at $16 a box of 50 I think, I breezed by the counter really fast.

2 weeks ago they had WWB 50 for just over $10.

The rest of the cabinet looked packed full, except no 380 and no fed bulk 22

G19Pistolero
03-21-2010, 17:23
Just saw this for the first time at my local Sports Authority and picked up a couple, 50rds "Sport" for $19.99 - I'll be shooting next weekend I hope it's good...

-J.-

american lockpicker
03-21-2010, 17:29
I bought a few hundred rounds of it and I like it. Its high quality compared to US ammo.

themighty9mm
03-21-2010, 18:12
Just wanted throw out a buyer beware. The RWS is steel core. I bought 2 boxes as I was told it was steel core. Got home and checked, sure enough the magnet clings to it. The buyer beware is for those that go to indoor ranges. Not all indorr ranges will alow it.

Manofprint
03-21-2010, 19:52
Glad I checked here before buying
My wally world had an entire case or two of this stuff

I think I will hold out

G19Pistolero
03-29-2010, 12:43
Shot 5 boxes of the RWS 9mm on my G19 this weekend...i was pleasantly surprised with the results.

-J.-

TZZ
03-29-2010, 12:52
If I remember correctly, RWS is also $14.97 at my nearest Walmart too. Instead of buying that, I'll continue shopping at Academy where the prices for WWB, NATO, and Monarch are much less than Walmart.

DEADEYEGUY
03-29-2010, 12:54
At $17.00 a box I'll wait for the Winchester White Box to come in. Even if it was the finest target ammo in the world I don't shoot in matches. I work close for self defense work. If it can shoot a 1" group at 50 yards it means nothing to me. Of course YMMV. BTW, my local WallyWorld has had several boxes of it sitting there at that price for quite awhile.

JFrame
03-29-2010, 13:00
Well, people seem to be buying the RWS ammo. There were stacks and stacks of them on the shelf at our local Wally World, and they're all gone now.

I guess people are buying whatever they can find on the shelves...

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arclight610
03-29-2010, 14:52
I bought a box just to try it out. Its loaded hotter than normal practice stuff, wasn't any more accurate the. The brass and headstamp is also prettier.

js0ne
03-29-2010, 15:05
Just wanted throw out a buyer beware. The RWS is steel core. I bought 2 boxes as I was told it was steel core. Got home and checked, sure enough the magnet clings to it. The buyer beware is for those that go to indoor ranges. Not all indorr ranges will alow it.

They have an empty box @ the range where i shoot IDPA hanging from the wall with a big "STEEL CORE NOT ALLOWED" sign

SR Burton
06-04-2010, 15:00
Just saw the RWS for the first time also today at WM. The lady behind the counter said they got it so they would have something in 9 mm while they were out of WWB.

Picked up one box/50 at $12.97 plus tax. Haven't shot it yet.

Ceapea
06-04-2010, 15:31
Just wanted throw out a buyer beware. The RWS is steel core. I bought 2 boxes as I was told it was steel core. Got home and checked, sure enough the magnet clings to it. The buyer beware is for those that go to indoor ranges. Not all indorr ranges will alow it.

Yep, steel bullets. Most ranges wont allow them. I picked up a few boxes from Sportsman's Guide and my guns love them, but I have to shoot them out at my mother-in-laws farm.

TZZ
06-04-2010, 16:18
The other night I shot another 100 rounds of RWS and 200 rounds of Federal. Cumulatively, I have shot probably 500 rounds of RWS over the past several weeks. It is clean handling ammo, especially compared to others, such as WWB. Other than that, I found no difference in accuracy when compared to Federal and other brands. Perhaps RWS is more consistent, but at such a great price difference it is not worth it to me. This afternoon I bought another 300 rounds of Federal.

LT642
06-04-2010, 16:29
The RWS ammo is steel bullets, is this ammo safe to shoot in my G19 or G26? Will it hurt the pistol? I have always shot the WWB or Blazer Brass, I too bought the RWS because it's all the local Walmart had, but I haven't shot it yet as I'm a little concerned after reading about it being hotter and being steel bullets.
Any insight would be appreciated.

kilroy2721
06-04-2010, 16:53
The RWS ammo is steel bullets, is this ammo safe to shoot in my G19 or G26? Will it hurt the pistol? I have always shot the WWB or Blazer Brass, I too bought the RWS because it's all the local Walmart had, but I haven't shot it yet as I'm a little concerned after reading about it being hotter and being steel bullets.
Any insight would be appreciated.

Yes it is safe to shoot out of your Glock. It is a little hotter than the WWB. I have found it to be a lot more accurate and consistent than WWB also.

I believe that Walmart ordered a large amount of this ammo because that was all they could get their hands on when everyone was demanding ammo. I have purchased a small amount of this and will hold onto it for that special occasion when I need to use the steel core ammo.

CBennett
06-04-2010, 17:00
$19 for a box of 50. No Thanks. :animlol:

down to a REGULAR price locally at the Walmart of $12.50. basically almost the same as WWB now days..

samuse
06-04-2010, 17:01
I put two boxes of RWS and NATO through my G-19. They both shot the same. However, I shot more accurately with Remington 115grain UMC in the green box. :supergrin:

CBennett
06-04-2010, 17:02
I bought a box just to try it out. Its loaded hotter than normal practice stuff, wasn't any more accurate the. The brass and headstamp is also prettier.

yeah IMO its closer to a P+ or NATO type load...I shot some Blazer brass/and aluminum and some Federal then tried out 1/2 a box of the RWS stuff right at the end of my session..there was a NOTICEABLE difference in the RWS stuff VS the other "practice" type stuff..it felt like a 9mm NATO load or like my 124 grain P+ Gold Dots...this round for 9mm packs a little punch and is a "hotter" load.

xanatospr
04-20-2012, 21:35
I've shot about 200 rds of RWS 180gr through my G23 gen4 and it's worked flawlessly. Where I live the price is usually the same as american eagle so I just grab whatever's available. I feel RWS is a bit better on accuracy than American eagle though. Just my 2cents...

PzGren
04-20-2012, 21:51
RWS stands for Rheinisch-Westfälische Sprengstofffabrik, which is owned by RUAG of Switzerland.

The GECO 9mm bullets that were previously sold for under $10 per box were also made in Switzerland and were by far not as good as the old Geco ammo that was made in Germany.

I believe that that Geco and RWS 9mm ammo is coming from the same factory, just the price was adjusted for the high quality associated with RWS rimfire match and rifle hunting ammo.

P.S.
I doubt that it is steel core ammo, steel has a much lower specific weight than lead and to come up with a real steel core 124gr 9 Para bullet isn't all that easy. It is more likely a mild steel jacket.

Can someone delaborate a round and cut a bullet?

Guatariccan
04-20-2012, 22:48
I've gone through a case and a half of the 9mm 124 gr. It is great ammo in my opinion. I spoke to RUAG at last years IALEFI and became interested. So I bought two cases within a few weeks of each other, cost me $199.98 per 1000 shipped to the house.
It has a bi-metal jacket so magnets stick and it sparks at indoor ranges, but if you have your own place it's not a problem. I'd buy more if the price comes up again.

Edit to add: Guns used Sig P226 and Glock 19

Javelin
04-20-2012, 23:05
RWS makes some really decent precision .22LR bullets (The R50 line comes to mind). They also used to make Olympic quality .22 firearms and an RWS took the Olympics in 1988. I know because I have that rifle.... but that's about all I know about RWS.

:whistling:

carbuncle
04-20-2012, 23:11
The Walmart near me said they have 20 boxes of this 9mm. Anyone used it and thoughs?

I like it, it's quality European (Swiss?) ammo. Not worth paying extra for, but at market rate is good range ammo.

unit1069
04-21-2012, 09:17
That's what it was at my local Wal-Mart this morning.

I decided to pass on it. Now that ammo is becoming more available I don't like the idea that I'm being asked to pay up for range ammo.

Maybe some retailers are holding out for high prices now that Spring is just around the corner. Lots of pent-up shooters will be hitting the outdoor ranges.

I wrote this more than two years ago when Wal-Mart was asking $16+ for a box of 50. I noticed a few months later that the price dropped to $12 and haven't seen it at the local Wal-Mart since.

I'm hoping a slow economy, high gas prices, and allied pullout in Iraq and Afghanistan brings cheaper ammo onto the market in the near future.

voyager4520
04-21-2012, 13:18
RWS 9mm Ammo FAIL! - YouTube
RWS (Swiss) 9mm 124 gr FMJ Target Ammo - YouTube

PzGren
04-21-2012, 21:30
Voyager,

those are neat videos. The first one really shows completely overcrimped rounds, on top that is a roll crimp while 9mm does better with a taper crimp, because the case is then also resting on the chamber rim and not only being held by the extractor.

Those crimps should really change pressure leves and change the POI !

larson1122
04-21-2012, 22:42
My walmart has had the 124gr RWS for a while and just put it all on sale to get rid of it. I bought all of the remaining boxes at $11.97 a box. Haven't shot any of it yet though.

CBennett
04-22-2012, 04:36
My walmart has had the 124gr RWS for a while and just put it all on sale to get rid of it. I bought all of the remaining boxes at $11.97 a box. Haven't shot any of it yet though.

mine used to have it put it on that $11.97 a box deal and ive not seen it again in almost a year now...I still have a box left in "stock" in my supply it was good ammo id use it again IF they had it at the $12 range price not the horrid $15 price they had it at...not worth near that but $10-12 yeah its a decent deal then.