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youngbuck
03-02-2010, 17:48
Since I have 2 other .40's I had looked into getting a new 229 or 239 in the caliber as well. Since it will be ccw which would be better?

Also how does carrying a round in the chamber work in these models as far as not having an accidental firing? Is there more of a chance or less of a chance?

Cobra64
03-02-2010, 18:19
Since I have 2 other .40's I had looked into getting a new 229 or 239 in the caliber as well. Since it will be ccw which would be better?

Also how does carrying a round in the chamber work in these models as far as not having an accidental firing? Is there more of a chance or less of a chance?

I have a half dozen SIGs of different shapes and sizes, and have never had an "accidental firing;" and that would be a rare condition in today's modern firearms.

My primary carry is a P229ST in 9mm, with the secondary option is my P239TT, also in 9mm. The 229 came in .40 S&W, but since I do not care for that caliber, I swapped in a Bar-Sto 9mm.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P1000553-Rotated.jpg

P220ST - P226ST - P229ST - P239TT - P232SL



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youngbuck
03-02-2010, 19:10
Man thats a pretty picture! Would you consider the 229 to be the same type of concealability (is that a word?) as a glock23? My main concern is which is easier to hide and the dif of 13 vs 8 shots?

Cobra64
03-02-2010, 19:17
Man thats a pretty picture! Would you consider the 229 to be the same type of concealability (is that a word?) as a glock23? My main concern is which is easier to hide and the dif of 13 vs 8 shots?

I'm not familiar with the G23, but the 229 takes 12 round .40 mags.

Keep in mind that the 229 was designed specifically for the .40 S&W. It's not just a 9mm based afterthought.

youngbuck
03-03-2010, 12:39
well the g23 takes 13rd mags. the overall size seems the same just the sig is a tad heavier. but i want a gen4 version now anyway

Cobra64
03-03-2010, 21:58
... i want a gen4 version now anyway


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youngbuck
03-04-2010, 00:51
i wish i could just push an easy button and have all the guns i want come to me!

so you dont find any preference in size, weight, or number of shots between the 229 and 239?

Cobra64
03-04-2010, 00:56
i wish i could just push an easy button and have all the guns i want come to me!

so you dont find any preference in size, weight, or number of shots between the 229 and 239?

The topic's dead if you're getting a Glock, which is probably the better gun for you. :)

OXCOPS
03-04-2010, 01:57
I have carried a 220, 226, 229 ang 239 on and off duty. The 239 is my current concealed carry gun. I don't feel outgunned in any way with it.

Hokie1911
03-04-2010, 19:49
i wish i could just push an easy button and have all the guns i want come to me!

so you dont find any preference in size, weight, or number of shots between the 229 and 239?

Had a 3rd gen G23, and now the 229. Don't really care for the the feel of the single stack grip on the 239 in my medium sized hands. LOVE the trigger on the Sig 100x better than the Glock. If I can't do what I need to do with 12 rounds vs 13, I'm screwed anyway. ;)

youngbuck
03-04-2010, 22:46
The topic's dead if you're getting a Glock, which is probably the better gun for you. :)

When I said I wanted a gen4 that would be to replace my gen3. Im still gonna have a glock and a sig so the topic is still alive sir

Cobra64
03-04-2010, 23:05
When I said I wanted a gen4 that would be to replace my gen3. Im still gonna have a glock and a sig so the topic is still alive sirGotcha.

I carry the 229 and 239.

The 229's ergos (a 228 9mm spin off), and the gun overall is extremly popular for carry, HD and range use. Given that it's a double stack, it holds ~50% more ammo.

The 239 is a single stack and for most people, the front strap is very uncomfortable. We typically replace the stock plastic grips with Hogue rubber, wood, or Nill grips. This little pistol is extremely accurate given its barrel length.

RedTape
03-05-2010, 00:21
I'd go with the 229. It's not that much larger than the 239 and the extra ammo makes it a simple choice IMO. If you need something smaller, it's probably going to need to be a lot smaller, like a J-frame or a little .380.

Cobra64
03-05-2010, 00:34
I'd go with the 229. It's not that much larger than the 239 and the extra ammo makes it a simple choice IMO. If you need something smaller, it's probably going to need to be a lot smaller, like a J-frame or a little .380.

The P232 is a sweet little .380.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P232/P1000595.jpg




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OXCOPS
03-05-2010, 01:26
I so wish they made that design in something larger than a .380.

Cobra64
03-05-2010, 01:42
I so wish they made that design in something larger than a .380.

So do about 40,000 Sigsters. :)


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OXCOPS
03-05-2010, 04:24
Which is why I will enver understand why they haven't done it already. Seems like it would sell better than the Rainbow Bright Collection of X5s.

Cobra64
03-05-2010, 08:20
Which is why I will enver understand why they haven't done it already. Seems like it would sell better than the Rainbow Bright Collection of X5s.

It's been discussed many times and pistolsmiths have concluded that a 9mm from a blowback setup would be too much.

I agree with you on SIGs "Circus Colors." A combat weapons manufacturer has no business producing pimp pistols. :rofl:

Hokie1911
03-05-2010, 09:41
It's been discussed many times and pistolsmiths have concluded that a 9mm from a blowback setup would be too much.

I agree with you on SIGs "Circus Colors." A combat weapons manufacturer has no business producing pimp pistols. :rofl:

Some things go together like peanut butter and jelly...

http://www.platinumcostumes.com/images/products/70sPimpHuggyLg.jpg

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sig_p238_rainbow_01.jpg

Cobra64
03-05-2010, 15:15
Some things go together like peanut butter and jelly...

http://www.platinumcostumes.com/images/products/70sPimpHuggyLg.jpg

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sig_p238_rainbow_01.jpghttp://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Obama/73_Hogan_Corvarado203.jpg

youngbuck
03-05-2010, 15:32
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Obama/73_Hogan_Corvarado203.jpg

Looks like Cruella de Ville married Don Magic Juan and this is thier daily driver

Cobra64
03-05-2010, 16:07
Looks like Cruella de Ville married Don Magic Juan and this is thier daily driver

On date night, SIG executives fight over Obama's ride.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Obama/PresidentialLimo.jpg



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Scott in Houston
03-05-2010, 21:06
Had a 3rd gen G23, and now the 229. Don't really care for the the feel of the single stack grip on the 239 in my medium sized hands. LOVE the trigger on the Sig 100x better than the Glock. If I can't do what I need to do with 12 rounds vs 13, I'm screwed anyway. ;)


Which trigger action do you have? SA/DA, DAK?

I'm considering a 229 for my next gun as well, and can't decide between those two trigger choices.

OXCOPS
03-06-2010, 00:57
Which trigger action do you have? SA/DA, DAK?

I'm considering a 229 for my next gun as well, and can't decide between those two trigger choices.

I have both. I pefer the DAK, but the DA/SA is very nice also.

Scott in Houston
03-06-2010, 08:40
I need to try both.

All I've done is dry fire the DA/SA 229 in the store, and I could tell that I liked the action... especially the SA.

J.R. Bob Dobbs
03-10-2010, 10:15
I've had p226, p229, p239.

The 239 is smallest so it carries better, but I didn't like the way it fit my hand (relatively speaking), and sold it.

The 229 is a happy median, feels good and not too big. I have two.

The 226 is my favorite. It fits my hand perfectly, but is too large to carry given the many alternatives.

Hokie1911
03-10-2010, 16:15
which trigger action do you have? Sa/da, dak?

I'm considering a 229 for my next gun as well, and can't decide between those two trigger choices.

da/sa

SIGShooter
03-11-2010, 12:09
OP:

Save yourself the drama down the road. Just get them both in the caliber that you like. It will be so much better on you right from the start.

Cobra64
03-11-2010, 13:02
OP:

Save yourself the drama down the road. Just get them both in the caliber that you like. It will be so much better on you right from the start.

I agree. Get the whole P-Series suite. :)


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SIGShooter
03-15-2010, 16:14
I agree. Get the whole P-Series suite. :)


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P1000553-Rotated.jpg



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You know, one of these days they are going to create a technology that will allow me to take your guns through your pictures!!!

:tongueout::tongueout:

Cobra64
03-15-2010, 18:23
You know, one of these days they are going to create a technology that will allow me to take your guns through your pictures!!!

:tongueout::tongueout:My stuff is safe. It's Bac who has to worry about the new technology. :rofl:

SIGShooter
03-15-2010, 19:32
My stuff is safe. It's Bac who has to worry about the new technology. :rofl:


Yes, bac must worry too. But yours are first!

:rofl::wavey:

elchino
03-17-2010, 16:43
can anyone comment on the 40cal 239 DAK behaves? What is the recoil like? Deciding between a 9mm or 40cal. I own both calibers in a variety of guns and am just wondering if the 40 behaves well in a small package like the 239

Cobra64
03-17-2010, 17:08
can anyone comment on the 40cal 239 DAK behaves? What is the recoil like? Deciding between a 9mm or 40cal. I own both calibers in a variety of guns and am just wondering if the 40 behaves well in a small package like the 239You may want to reference post #2 where I mentioned .40 S&W in my 226ST (that weighs ~40 ounces). The same caliber in a much lighter aluminum alloy frame P239 is most likely to have more perceived recoil than the 226ST.

Why not shoot the 239 in .40 S&W and decide for yourself? :)

elchino
03-17-2010, 18:12
Would love to try it however none of the local ranges rents the 239 in 40cal. Unfortunately, don't know anyone with a 239.

mesteve2
03-23-2010, 08:07
They went to the .357 Sig cartridge!

They say it puts the bad guy in the dirt.

It does not kill with every shot only puts the bad guy on the ground!

They say they are the quite happy with the .357 Sig. round.

elchino
03-23-2010, 19:35
Thanks for the nice discussion on this and other similar posts. I ended up buying a 239 in da/sa 40 cal. Nitron finish. Hope to get to the range next week. This is becoming an expensive hobby.

RedTape
03-23-2010, 20:13
Thanks for the nice discussion on this and other similar posts. I ended up buying a 239 in da/sa 40 cal. Nitron finish. Hope to get to the range next week. This is becoming an expensive hobby.

Congrats on the new pistol. Post pics and give us a range report when you can.

Cobra64
03-23-2010, 20:26
Congrats! :cool:

Check the slide rails for burrs, and keep them greased.

Warhorse
04-01-2010, 18:13
This is becoming an expensive hobby.
Ya think?! :rofl:

Congrats on your new Sig.

writwing
04-10-2010, 09:28
The topic's dead if you're getting a Glock, which is probably the better gun for you. :)

Why would you think a Glock is better for someone concerned about ADs?

writwing
04-10-2010, 09:31
can anyone comment on the 40cal 239 DAK behaves? What is the recoil like? Deciding between a 9mm or 40cal. I own both calibers in a variety of guns and am just wondering if the 40 behaves well in a small package like the 239

Had a 229 over 10 years ago in 40. Recoil was good but torqued at the wrist, as opposed to a 9mm which pushes straight back. YMMV

Cobra64
04-10-2010, 10:50
Why would you think a Glock is better for someone concerned about ADs?

Did I communicate that?

Snak3
04-12-2010, 18:12
Congrats on your P239!

I just picked up my first one the other day. I think it is a sweet little carry piece, and yes as someone mentioned before - it is very accurate given it's size. Mine is a 9mm so I can only carry 8+1. I feel perfectly comfortable with 9 rounds of 9mm hollow points on me, I don't feel that I need 15 to be protected.

I have small hands, given that I think the 229 is a bit chunky for me to use as a CCW. I also like to carry in the front of my jeans inside the waist band. That said, the P239 is much more comfortable given my hand size and where I holster my firearm for CCW.

writwing
04-12-2010, 19:07
Did I communicate that?

I believe you did:


The topic's dead if you're getting a Glock, which is probably the better gun for you.

Bold italics added

Cobra64
04-13-2010, 21:45
I believe you did:




Bold italics added

My comment had nothing to do with a Glock AD (accidental discharge).

rfd339
04-14-2010, 14:41
Why would you think a Glock is better for someone concerned about ADs?

I think Cobra was referring to this...
well the g23 takes 13rd mags. the overall size seems the same just the sig is a tad heavier. but i want a gen4 version now anyway

The topic's dead if you're getting a Glock, which is probably the better gun for you. :)

rfd339
04-14-2010, 14:43
Congrats on the p239 . I can't wait till my p239/DAK 40sw comes in. It's been close to 3 weeks now.