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cam6702
03-08-2010, 01:46
never had a tactical/defense shotgun and am wanting to get one just to have in the bedroom. i dont have the money for a benelli but have been looking into the remingtons and mossbergs. can you guys suggest any models or brands to look into specifically?

Devils Haircut
03-08-2010, 03:36
Remington 870 is what I've got. Most here will tell you that you don't need to spend alot to get a good reliable shotgun. Do a search on the Maverick 88 as well. They can be found for under $200 and will get the job done. Also, check out www.aiptactical.com (http://www.aiptactical.com) , it's a glocktalker's site with some great 870 builds and alot of good advice. Finally, the search function is your friend!!!

lawndart98
03-08-2010, 05:31
Get a Remington 870. You could probably find a deal on a used one that will suit your needs.

mixflip
03-08-2010, 10:13
Everyone is going to say Remington 870 or Mossberg 500. And they are probably right if this is your first and only shotgun? Good price, good reliability, good availability in parts, good aftermarket upgrades.Legendary brand names proven in combat & law enforcement. $300-ish??? You'll be good to go.

mitchshrader
03-08-2010, 10:48
Ithaca, Winchester, Remington, Mossberg. A clone if money is tight, the Pardner Pump takes many aftermarket 870 accessories.

My strongest advice is get an old vintage wingmaster 2 3/4, buy a spare barrel with fiber optic sights, put a sling on it, and quit. You'll have 2 good shotguns, and they'll both be slick actions.

Or pawnshop any of the others and do likewise with it. One HD barrel, one with choke tubes.. and don't hang six pounds of crap on it.

NAS T MAG
03-08-2010, 14:41
Light, laser, Sidesaddle, Hogue Tamer. End of conversation!
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/NAS-T-MAG/Mossberg500TacticalCruiser.jpg

triggerjerk
03-08-2010, 17:35
Have you looked at the Benelli Super Nova?
They are priced right for a pump . . .

CTfam
03-08-2010, 18:43
I highly recommend this for your first shotgun.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_871/products_id/42628

Get a stock that fits you, a cleaning kit and a bunch of ammo. DONE!

ScrappyDoo
03-08-2010, 19:29
Mossberg 930 SPX Best. Shotgun. Ever.

Aceman
03-08-2010, 19:56
Maverick 88 by Mossberg. Best budget "just to have" IMO. Something with a full stock. Low recoil 00 buck

I was thinking of what NOT to do - but I see it was already posted.

Light, laser, Sidesaddle, Hogue Tamer. End of conversation about what NOT to do!
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/NAS-T-MAG/Mossberg500TacticalCruiser.jpg

Ferdinandd
03-08-2010, 20:13
I've owned Mossberg 500 and 590, along with Remington 870 and 1100. I'm back to the 870 as my primary. That said I really miss my Mossberg 500 - slick action, absolutely reliable; it was bought new in 1987.

B Coyote
03-08-2010, 20:32
Light, laser, Sidesaddle, Hogue Tamer. End of conversation!

The end of one, but the beginning of another...

bc

mixflip
03-08-2010, 20:37
Ok I wasnt going to advocate my Benelli SuperNova tactical just because its not cheap at $500 but since someone else already mentioned it, so will I now.

I chose the Benelli because of these features...

Ghost ring sights, for those longer shots with slugs.

Chrome lined barrel to fight corrosion.

shoots all shells (2 3/4 up to 3 1/2 inch) seriously versitile if ammo gets slim.

Rotating, dual lug, steel on steel locking bolt head like an M14.

Very durable polymer overmold receiver, technology borrowed from the Glock magazine design.

Comfort Tech recoil reducing buttstock and gel pad.

Awesome location for the safety! Just forward of the trigger guard.

Location of the slide release borrowed from Remington.

Magazine "lock" button, which allow the shooter to empty a chambered round without loading a round from the magazine tube...so you can drop in a slug or other specialty round.

Extra large trigger well for gloved hands.

A pistol grip buttstock can be mounted on this model unlike the original Nova's.

Field strips super easy and to put back together. No more messing with interrupter levers and shell stop levers flopping out.

Built in sling swivel studs.

Can be converted to a hunting gun with a new barrel.

Adjustable butt pad for LOP

Sexy Italian design and build quality.

(not my picture but this is how mine will look soon)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/mixflip/benellisupernova.jpg

Shima
03-08-2010, 20:51
Sexy Italian design and build quality.

(not my picture but this is how mine will look soon)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/mixflip/benellisupernova.jpg


I need that mag extension and one of these Sidearmor picatinny rails for a flashlight mount for my Supernova Tactical.

http://www.sidearmor.com/store/images/benelli/SuperNova_4_250.jpg (http://www.sidearmor.com/store/images/benelli/SuperNova_4.jpg)

mixflip
03-08-2010, 21:08
Hey Shima, where did you find that rail? It looks cool but it also looks like I might hit my hands on it too?

bsg1
03-08-2010, 21:32
i wish i was as reliable as the guns in my ownership.... keep it simple and to the point. get a gun that fits you; the ergonomics are paramount in your search. there are several fairly recent threads on this very subject here on gt. remember that one size does not fit all, just like in real life. with all the accessories available today you can make just about any gun "fit" you. but you want a gun that fits out of the box. that means you need to do a little work prior to purchasing. try some on for size and then research the ones that fit well. shoot them if you can. there is no disappointment like buying a gun that "looks cool" but ultimately doesn't meet your needs. so don't forget what your original intended goal was as you get overwhelmed by the choices that face you.... you have already gotten some good advice right here. i personally like the benelli shotguns, but the remington pumps look good to me too; especially the older ones with wood dressing. i like the light weight of the mossberg pump. we could go on and on about what i like, but this is about you. get your feedback here but then do your homework. good luck.



-Brady-

bsg1
03-08-2010, 21:42
bye the way, mixflip does a pretty nice job of showing off the benelli super nova; you may want to save up your pennies. ask him how to see it, because i am not fluid in the language of the computer....



-Brady-

Shima
03-08-2010, 22:13
Hey Shima, where did you find that rail? It looks cool but it also looks like I might hit my hands on it too?

I found it here:

http://www.sidearmor.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=62&zenid=nflfvbfdj30mf9sd59t592e7s0

I want a way to mount a light without having to hang it off the end. I don't know. What do you think?

mixflip
03-09-2010, 02:41
Unfortunately the barrel clamps seem to be the most solid design. I am not a fan of hanging stuff on my gun either but say you were diving/jumping/sliding ect ect into some cover and hit you rail (which seems to only be held on by the tiny screws on top of the receiver) will it survive?

Vs. a robust barrel clamp that not only holds your white light but also serves as a support for your extended mag tube.

I think my logic leans towards a barrel clamp. A low profile high quality one though.

CTfam
03-09-2010, 06:02
I like the looks of this mount. I have a similar one that is plastic. Works great but Aluminum is better than plastic IMO. I use a TLR-1 weapon light on the mount.

http://www.amazon.com/LaserLyte-Shotgun-Tri-Rail-Mount/dp/B000VUWSAY

You may want some type of barrel clamp rail for the extended mag tube... Do you need one for the Benelli? Very interested in that shotgun.

Here you go... If you want to sure up that extended mag tube.

http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Universal-Shotgun-Paintball-Tri-Rail/dp/B001WJ4BB2/ref=pd_sbs_sg_1

NAS T MAG
03-09-2010, 07:35
Maverick 88 by Mossberg. Best budget "just to have" IMO. Something with a full stock. Low recoil 00 buck

I was thinking of what NOT to do - but I see it was already posted.

Can your set up do this?:rofl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyLN3t7WbeQ

Shima
03-09-2010, 07:41
Unfortunately the barrel clamps seem to be the most solid design. I am not a fan of hanging stuff on my gun either but say you were diving/jumping/sliding ect ect into some cover and hit you rail (which seems to only be held on by the tiny screws on top of the receiver) will it survive?

Vs. a robust barrel clamp that not only holds your white light but also serves as a support for your extended mag tube.

I think my logic leans towards a barrel clamp. A low profile high quality one though.

Good point. What is the best technique to turn the light on in a typical HD situation when it's hanging out there on the end of the barrel with a clamp? I think those remote mounted switches seem like a hoakie solution, but I don't know.

Shima
03-09-2010, 07:47
I like the looks of this mount. I have a similar one that is plastic. Works great but Aluminum is better than plastic IMO. I use a TLR-1 weapon light on the mount.

http://www.amazon.com/LaserLyte-Shotgun-Tri-Rail-Mount/dp/B000VUWSAY

You may want some type of barrel clamp rail for the extended mag tube... Do you need one for the Benelli? Very interested in that shotgun.

Here you go... If you want to sure up that extended mag tube.

http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Universal-Shotgun-Paintball-Tri-Rail/dp/B001WJ4BB2/ref=pd_sbs_sg_1


That rail does look like an interesting option, but maybe the robust clamp would serve me better.

Ralff
03-09-2010, 09:09
Go to your local gun store. Handle them both. Pick whichever one feels more natural.

Both the Mossberg and the Remington are fine guns.

akgunnut
03-09-2010, 10:54
This is my HD shotgun just a plain and simple 870!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/spyderdude18/870Wingmaster.jpg

The 870 has been helping property owners defend what is theirs since the 1950s.... you cannot go wrong!

CTfam
03-09-2010, 11:32
Good point. What is the best technique to turn the light on in a typical HD situation when it's hanging out there on the end of the barrel with a clamp? I think those remote mounted switches seem like a hoakie solution, but I don't know.

The clamp is mounted on the mag tube right at the end of the forend. On my SG I can flip the switch with my index finger no problem with my hand on the pump. You would be surprised how tough these little clamps are. I have a plastic one that looks cheaper/weaker than the one I posted. It has never moved or come loose in hundreds of high power loads. They are worth every penny.

Blitzer
03-09-2010, 12:07
I have had both Mossberg 500 and Remington 870s. I prefer the Mossberg but now I would get a Bernelle Nova.

I.M.O. pistol grip and folding stocks are not needed for Home defense use.

Using a shotgun with only a pistol grip is a poor choice, I.M.E. it is too difficult to aim properly or only use a folding stock with the stock extended. ;)

Unless you buy a tricked out Saiga I would choose old faithful.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa288/Blitzer0101/guns/SaigaDrum.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa288/Blitzer0101/guns/50273.jpg

Z71bill
03-09-2010, 17:02
Whether the question is -

Which pump action shotgun?

Or

Which buck shot?

To use for HD - the answer (for 90+% of people) would be the same.

It does not matter!

Any 12 gauge pump you buy -


Remington, Winchester, Mossberg or even a no name imported from Turkey like the Hatsan or a Chinese made Pardner

Loaded with any buck shot -

Even the cheap value pack stuff from Walmart

Will flat out put any BG inside your home down in short order.

Just handle a few - what feels good - which one has the safety & action bar (the thing you push to open the action) where you like it.

Then shoot it - and shoot it some more - so you are familiar with it and you will be good to go.

Blackwing
03-12-2010, 22:38
I like mine over pump.

DaveFJ80
03-15-2010, 23:04
Have you looked at the Benelli Super Nova?
They are priced right for a pump . . .


I love my Benelli SuperNova, and I do extremely well with it on a tactical course, but for a true HD scenario it's a big/long gun to carry. I'm a bigger guy so it fits me well and I can handle it pretty quick and easily, and I'm using the pistol grip with stalk. But compared to what's pictured above (Mossberg w/pistol grip only), I personally feel that is much easier to carry & control in a true close-quarters HD situation, like inside your house.

David Armstrong
03-16-2010, 09:18
But compared to what's pictured above (Mossberg w/pistol grip only), I personally feel that is much easier to carry & control in a true close-quarters HD situation, like inside your house.
IMO if one is using a shotgun with pistol grip only for HD they would be better off using a pistol instead of a shotgun.

B Coyote
03-16-2010, 10:11
Pistol grip only shotguns are nothing but very large, unwieldy pistols.

bc

Jdog
03-16-2010, 10:35
never had a tactical/defense shotgun and am wanting to get one

A tactical one will hardly ever get used, cost a lot of $$... and sit in your bedroom

So my suggestion if you don't already have one...would be to get a standard cheap, reliable hunting pump shotgun like the 870 or the mossberg-500/maverick-80 model. You'll not only have a good home defender, but you'll be able to go out and have some fun with it... like bird hunting or skeet shooting. (skeet shooting is way cheap and very fun!) it can shoot a bad guy just like a tactical model ... it just won't look as cool

aippi
03-16-2010, 13:27
The best shotgun to have is the one you have in your hands when a perp brakes in your door. Planning for that means picking a tried and true design then learning how to use it. The Remington 870 model 25077 will serve your need. It comes with synthic stocks, LE forend, 18.5" bead sight barrel and a Remington LE 2 shot extension. Best value out there for HD or Duty. should be able to pick one up for around $350.

MrOldLude
03-16-2010, 20:28
Love my 500, wouldn't mind owning an 870. Either are great choices. Pick your favorite.

KevinFACE
03-16-2010, 21:20
Just picked up my 870 today, beautiful weapon.. haven't had a chance to shoot it yet as I'm in city limits and the local bass pro only has 1 rifle/shotty range. I gotta get familiar with this thing before I fire it anyway.. but I do like the weight and look of it, and the fact that 20 GA. ammo is like $6 for a box of 25 rounds!!

stopatrain
03-18-2010, 18:41
Another great shotgun is the winchester 1300...light and fast.

WellArmedSheep
03-19-2010, 20:04
Mossberg 930 SPX Best. Shotgun. Ever.

I would NEVER recommend that shotgun for someone wanting a home defense weapon.

The 870 will be cheaper and MUCH more reliable.

I'd rather trust my life to a Lorcin.

demented
03-19-2010, 23:09
Shop around until you find a used Mossberg or Maverick for $150 or less, cut the barrel back to 18.5 inches, you'll have all the home defense shotgun you'll need.