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CPG19
03-08-2010, 23:49
I've had my G19 for about 3 months and put about 1k rounds . I'm already saving up for G38 and i wanted to know how well it shoots comparing to G19 .

Fifty Thousand
03-09-2010, 00:29
This is the Gap forum, not the Gap bashing or ACP Forum.
-DannyR, Moderator.

amazingphotos
03-09-2010, 00:58
If you shoot the G19 well, you should do at least as well with the G38. Other than the size of the bore and a slightly wider/heavier slide, they are the same pistol. If you want, options such as sights, recoil assemblies, etc are the same. It might be a good combination to own - the G19 for cheaper practice and the G38 for when you would prefer to punch a bigger hole.

After almost seven years with a G37 and almost four with a G39, I recently added a G38. If I could own only one .45 GAP, I think I would choose the G38. However, I love all three and still hope Glock will add a long-slide "target" version.

To see expanded 9mm (124 gr) and .45 GAP (200 gr) bullets you can see reply #4 in thread http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1184792

jeffreybehr
03-09-2010, 10:40
This is the Gap forum, not the Gap bashing or ACP Forum.
-DannyR, Moderator.
Huh? He's asking GAPists to comment on the difference in shooting a compact-GAP pistol v. his 9mm Glock. How is that bashing GAPs or discussing ACP pistols?

Maybe you didn't read his note carefully?

DannyR
03-09-2010, 10:44
Perhaps you did not read the post by fifty thousand before I deleted it. There was no reference whatsoever to a comparison of 9mm and .45GAP, just a negative comment regarding GAP vs ACP.

jeffreybehr
03-09-2010, 10:51
Perhaps you did not read the post by fifty thousand before I deleted it. There was no reference whatsoever to a comparison of 9mm and .45GAP, just a negative comment regarding GAP vs ACP.

Oh. OK. :embarassed:

9mmdude
03-09-2010, 14:48
Either one will do you fine.

jeffreybehr
03-09-2010, 15:31
CPG, I've owned 3 different Glock 40s for about a year, and I just bought 2 GAPs, a 37 and 38. I find that the GAPs have slightly 'slower' recoil and less-sharp noise than any of my 40s. I suspect you'll find similar differences between your 19 and any GAP.

dbarry
03-09-2010, 17:26
I have the G19 and the G37. I love them both. They are very accurate. I do like the extra firepower of the G37, but I like "feel" of the G19 too. (very similiar grip, the slide is heavier on the G37).

I got some american eagle 185gr gap in the mail last week and those are loaded HOT! Surprised me next to the Remington 230gr.

You'll love the G38 I'm guessing

G8Kpr
03-09-2010, 18:54
If you shoot the G19 well, you should do at least as well with the G38. Other than the size of the bore and a slightly wider/heavier slide, they are the same pistol. If you want, options such as sights, recoil assemblies, etc are the same. It might be a good combination to own - the G19 for cheaper practice and the G38 for when you would prefer to punch a bigger hole.

After almost seven years with a G37 and almost four with a G39, I recently added a G38. If I could own only one .45 GAP, I think I would choose the G38. However, I love all three and still hope Glock will add a long-slide "target" version.

To see expanded 9mm (124 gr) and .45 GAP (200 gr) bullets you can see reply #4 in thread http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1184792

Uhhh, yep. That oughta cover it. :thumbsup:

See my tag line below for my thoughts.

CPG19
03-09-2010, 21:10
Thanks Yall ! some ppl might thing its little weird , Im acutally buying/stacking up ammo first . only reason is in CA starting feb 1 2011 , we can no longer get ammo online . but I've been putting little here and little there for G38 .

I've never held GAP before or have shot due to popularity in our local range . but i know this is the i want . cant wait till get it !

roginoz
03-09-2010, 23:18
I bought a G38 because I liked my G19 so much. Both are great guns. The recoil from the GAP isn't bad, it seems pretty accurate (still breaking it in,) and it's a nice size for a .45 caliber pistol. I haven't had any problem getting .45 GAP ammo. I haven't found any "cheap" plinking ammo like in the 9mm, but I was aware of that going in. (I have 500 rounds of new unprimed brass sitting upstairs, along with 1000 bullets...)

CPG19
03-10-2010, 20:56
Just found out 4th gen G38 is coming out sometimes in jun or july .. I might pick it up the 4th if prices are right .

wonder how much more its going to cost over 3rd gen...

plus i dont mind the recoil .. kinda like it lil more punchy

dbarry
03-11-2010, 04:50
I dont think they'll get cheaper than this CPG:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=160607543

DannyR
03-11-2010, 05:29
The Gen4 G37 is due out in June, to fulfill a 3,000 pistol contract with the Florida HP. It's the Gen4 G38 that may be out next year.

legacy38
03-20-2010, 23:46
My G19 is my most trusted pistol. If the lives of those I hold dear where on the line, and I was limited to a pistol, MY G19 is the pistol I would want. However, I carry a G38 daily on and off duty, and it is very rapidly closing the gap (heh heh) with my G19.

sureshot
03-21-2010, 07:49
i used to think the g19 was the pistol to compare the others to
i shot my new g38 yesterday and it out performed the 19 in every way
less recoil, more accurate and a bigger hole
now the 38 is the gun for the others to beat
i have owned every glock made except the g18 and the little 380 whatever model it is
and i like the 38 better
like i said in another post else where on here
the only draw back is catching my brass so i can reload
but its always been like that with all my glocks in any caliber
sureshot

Swiper
03-21-2010, 14:23
I was about to start a very similar thread so I will hijack this one instead.

If you can only have one gun, either a G19 or G38, which one would you get? I'm trying to make up my mind. The G19 seems like a more sensible option, but I got a 'crush' on the G38.

scratchy wilson
03-21-2010, 15:37
I'm trying to make up my mind. The G19 seems like a more sensible option, but I got a 'crush' on the G38.

Me too(and I'm up to four -19s):crying:

Njanear
03-21-2010, 17:00
i used to think the g19 was the pistol to compare the others to
i shot my new g38 yesterday and it out performed the 19 in every way
less recoil, more accurate and a bigger hole
now the 38 is the gun for the others to beat

OK - can someone confirm the comment in RED? Does it truly recoil less than a G19? I ask as I have been wanting to get a G19 for my 10YO to use on Steel Plates and at GSSF, because that grip frame seems to suit him best and he isn't quite ready for a .40. On the flip side, I have wanted something else as a CCW carry piece (not that I really need it, since I have a G27, a KT P32 and now a G29 :embarassed:). To boot, I could easily snag a G38 in OD, which fills yet another hole in the collection - but something for him takes priority. So how about it, you GAPpers - does the G38 recoil less than a G19?

9mmdude
03-21-2010, 17:08
I have both. With regular gap rounds and regular 9mm rounds the 19 recoils less for me.

Officer's Match
03-21-2010, 21:59
I don't know of a good way to convey this, but I'd say a 38 recoils harder yet somehow slower. Put another way, the 19 is a sharper yet weaker recoil.

Thx-1138
03-22-2010, 11:44
The way I describe it is the .45GAP is more of a firm push while 9mm is more of a quick punch.

Trey83
03-22-2010, 18:45
The way I describe it is the .45GAP is more of a firm push while 9mm is more of a quick punch.
I've never shot a G19 but this is exactly how I would compare the recoil of my G38 to that of my Sig P239.

Njanear
03-24-2010, 04:12
Thanks for the feedback. Anyone else like to weigh in? DannyR? I am thinking I might need to sneak in some range time to shoot my G34 vs G37 for a pseudo comparison, although I know both should recoil less than a G19/G38 test.

DannyR
03-24-2010, 05:07
The G38 has less muzzle flip, but more recoil. The reduced muzzle flip makes it appear to have less recoil. I suggest a G19 and Blazer 115-gr ammo for your son. Better ammo choices for reduced recoil would be Cor-Bon 147-gr 9mm match ammo or Atlanta Arms "147-gr "Glock" loads.

If you reload 9mm, try a 147-gr Montana Gold over 5.0-gr of AA#5, Federal Primers, OAL of 1.150 inches.

For GAP, try a 200-gr Montana Gold over 4.0-gr ot Titegroup or 4.6-gr of N310, OAL of 1.070 inches.

Njanear
03-24-2010, 20:02
Thanks all, for the comparison info and such. Looks like I should just hold out a little longer - although those GB deals on OD G38s are mighty tempting...

Cappi
03-24-2010, 21:59
Thanks for the feedback. Anyone else like to weigh in? DannyR? I am thinking I might need to sneak in some range time to shoot my G34 vs G37 for a pseudo comparison, although I know both should recoil less than a G19/G38 test.

They have different recoil impulse characteristics as already alluded to.
the 38 isn't bad, ( I think the 23 is worse) but the 38 is still a stouter recoil than the 19 imHo.

Ammo type can make a fairly noticeable difference too.
Of the VERY limited brands and bullet wts I've shot, 200 gr Gold Dots are hardest hitting as far as recoil.
WWB 185 and 230 gr'ers are noticeably less

but again still, the 19 has less felt recoil if comparing typical 115gr target fodder like WWB, Blazer, etc to the mildest shooting factory GAP rnd




..L.T.A.

Njanear
03-28-2010, 19:26
I took the little guy by the show today and he stated that the G19 felt good to him (he originally liked my G34's grip but after feeling the weight difference in a side-by-side comparison, he is all about a G19). We even tried the RTF2 frame and the GEN4 G17 and in both cases, he did NOT like the polymids (he is only 10, so I didn't tell him he must have girly hands ;) ).

I will put the G19 on the wish list then. Thanks for everyone's feedback.

PS: I didn't see one G38 at the show. I did spy an OD G34 (NIB) for $489+tax - so I no longer lack an OD frame. :whistling: Sorry - I went weak in the knees since that is what I REALLY wanted when I joined GSSF last year but had to 'settle' on a black G34 instead. Of course, I thought I was doing a good thing since just yesterday, he was all about the G34 - but then I had to let him hold a G19 today. :dunno: