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conpro
03-25-2010, 18:28
I am looking to purchase a home defense shot gun and dont know which one to get any idea's would help.

B Coyote
03-25-2010, 21:41
I strongly prefer the Remington 870. They sell a model tailored to self defense. Their product code is 25077.

bc

mixflip
03-25-2010, 21:58
Here we go again.

Remington 870 or Mossberg 500. Most popular answer to this age old question.

Pretty much any old 12 gauge shotgun will serve you fine. Even a side by side coach gun not just a pump. Run the gun ya brung and read a book, watch a video or take a class (preferably take a class) on shotgun handling and HD techniques.

A $1000 shotgun wont make you any safer if you dont know how to effectively use it.

GreyEclipse
03-25-2010, 22:10
Here we go again.

Remington 870 or Mossberg 500. Most popular answer to this age old question.

Pretty much any old 12 gauge shotgun will serve you fine. Even a side by side coach gun not just a pump. Run the gun ya brung and read a book, watch a video or take a class (preferably take a class) on shotgun handling and HD techniques.

A $1000 shotgun wont make you any safer if you dont know how to effectively use it.

lol, this, what he said. :whistling:

aippi
03-25-2010, 22:26
Remington model 25077. This the 12ga 870 HD. It comes with, 18.5" barrel bead sight and fixed Cyl bore choke, with Remington LE 2 shot extension and Remington synthetic rear stock and Speed Feed LE forend.

You can get one most anywhere for around $350.00, of course depend on where you live. You will thank me later.

SiNNiK
03-26-2010, 00:57
Buy the absolute cheapest 12 ga. you can find.

Academy has Mossbergs for $169.99.

mixflip
03-26-2010, 03:26
Yeah I started out with a $199 Mossberg Maverick 88 and it ran flawless regardless of cheap price and cheap build quality. Its caveman simple and it worked reliably.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/mixflip/CIMG5045.jpg

But even this would work for home defense!!! Heck it even has a bayonet!!!!!!
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/mixflip/1237605959004.jpg

David Armstrong
03-26-2010, 08:54
What are your HD needs? That should help determine what HD guns you need.

Tactical black
03-26-2010, 08:58
Yeah I started out with a $199 Mossberg Maverick 88 and it ran flawless regardless of cheap price and cheap build quality. Its caveman simple and it worked reliably.


But even this would work for home defense!!! Heck it even has a bayonet!!!!!!
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/mixflip/1237605959004.jpg

That is pretty funny :rofl:

TerdSlayer
03-27-2010, 10:42
Now there are 1004 uses for duct tape...

Nutt51
03-28-2010, 15:37
Delivered price.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=95077

conpro
03-28-2010, 18:55
Just looking for a bedside home defense shotgun that is reliable that i can count on.

triggerjerk
03-28-2010, 20:54
Benelli Nova.
Stupid easy to fieldstrip and maintain.
Shoots any 12ga round.
Factory mercury recoil reducer available.

mixflip
03-28-2010, 22:46
+1 on the Benelli SuperNova tactical.

Other than the higher price point of $450 to $500 (which isnt really too much more than an accessorized Remington 870) You get alot of good options. Oh and the limited aftermarket support at the moment kinda sucks but like I said it comes with alot of great features that other shotguns dont have.


- Benelli fit and finish
- shoots up to 3.5" shells, if that's all you could find during the apocalypse? You could use them!
- 3 lug rotating bolt head, M14 style
- incredibly easy to field strip compared to the 870 & 500/590
- Glock like outer armor on the receiver (tough as a Glock magazine)
- chrome lined barrel so its dang near corrosion proof
- magazine stop button so you can swap in a specialty round
- built in sling studs
- recoil reducing stock on the traditional buttstocks called "comfort-tech"
- ghost ring sights for longer distance slug shots
- pistol grip is available called "steady grip" looks just like the Benelli M4 grip
- safety is in the perfect spot just forward of the trigger, very natural
- slide release is the same as a Remington
- shell carrier stays up and out of the way. Unlike the spring loaded carrier on the Remington
- hunting barrels can be bought for it unlike the 590
- mag extensions are available unlike the 500

Not for everybody but definitely a good shotgun for alot of us! If low on cash then stick with Mossberg or Remington. Cant go wrong there. I owned both.

Quigley
03-28-2010, 22:50
Benelli m4

GreyEclipse
03-28-2010, 22:56
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/SXo2ADc2J-I/AAAAAAAAA78/P6KgM7MAm78/s320/Homemade-shotgun.jpg

:dunno:

Blitzer
03-29-2010, 00:06
Lots of previous threads pop up on doing a search. ;)

I personally choose a Mossberg 500a with a 18.5" bead barrel with a hand guard, Star-Tac 6 shell side saddle and a 4 round Speedfeed stock.

Today I would find the funds for either a Bernelle Nova or M4. :cool: :supergrin:

FLglockdude
03-29-2010, 00:34
Like was said earlier, Mossberg 500 or Remington 870. Both are tested, reliable platforms that are inexpensive and will serve you needs well.

FWIW, an 18.5" 870 resides beside my bed :)

frankr
03-29-2010, 04:22
Remington model 25077. This the 12ga 870 HD. It comes with, 18.5" barrel bead sight and fixed Cyl bore choke, with Remington LE 2 shot extension and Remington synthetic rear stock and Speed Feed LE forend.

You can get one most anywhere for around $350.00, of course depend on where you live. You will thank me later.

I've got one, love it, paid $340.00 and it shoots great. Holds 6+1, shoots 2 3/4 or 3" That's all I need. If you ever have any questions on Remington pumps call aippi.

http://www.aiptactical.com/

mitchshrader
03-29-2010, 05:16
Any twelve gauge with a moderate to short barrel is bad news at in house ranges. a winchester defender or ithaca is just as deadly as an 870 or Benelli, a cheap pardner pump makes 'em just as dead as a mil spec riot gun.

The difference between a cheap used clone 12 gauge, and a brand new braggin' quality 12 gauge doesn't even matter to birds, much less miscreants. Keep buckshot in it and don't forget to take the safety off. the rest is dealers choice.

mixflip
03-29-2010, 09:56
Actually a cheap shotgun does make a difference. Especially if extractors break, forearm connecting bolts (or connecting pins in some cases) break? Yeah cheap shotguns will work on bad guys just fine when they are new for a while but will they last a like a quality shotgun?

You dont want this to happen in the middle of a home invasion...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXWGqm-yaZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyvAp2_PSBg

MavsX
03-29-2010, 12:55
Here we go again.

Remington 870 or Mossberg 500. Most popular answer to this age old question.

Pretty much any old 12 gauge shotgun will serve you fine. Even a side by side coach gun not just a pump. Run the gun ya brung and read a book, watch a video or take a class (preferably take a class) on shotgun handling and HD techniques.

A $1000 shotgun wont make you any safer if you dont know how to effectively use it.


LOL...you are right though...its either or. hahaa

FM12
03-29-2010, 18:30
My Boss bought us Winchester pumps, no troubles at all.

road1will
03-29-2010, 19:06
I've got a Mossberg 500 Tactical for HD. Came set up with the exact accessories i wanted for $350...18.5" bbl, collapsible pistol grip stock, side saddle, heat shield.

I prefer the mossberg over the remington, but it really doesnt matter.

rwillis
03-29-2010, 21:00
Maverick 88 is a great HD shotgun works great

CAcop
03-29-2010, 21:40
I haven't heard a bad choice yet on this thread.

I am still waiting to hear there is an 18.5" side by side with ejectors. Be fun as heck and pretty fast reload too.

Sheepdog Scout
03-30-2010, 00:21
590a1 special purpose. You could run potatoes through it and it would still fire. Plus you would have french fries for later. Then all you would need is a burger.:grill:

NEtracker
03-30-2010, 09:15
Mossberg 500 with Knoxx Recoil Reducing Adjustable Stock (that's my current one).

870 is fine also (was my last one).

DaveFJ80
03-30-2010, 14:51
Benelli M4 Entry w/collaspible pistol grip stalk :)

Nestor
04-01-2010, 11:32
Just buy shotgun.
All are similar.
They go bang!
They kick like a mule and after all You are asking yourself...WTF was that?!

David Armstrong
04-01-2010, 11:49
They kick like a mule and after all You are asking yourself...WTF was that?!
If you find that to be true you are not using it properly.

dosei
04-01-2010, 14:09
Just about ANY pump shotgun is going to be an excellent choice.
Remington
Mossberg
Benelli
Winchester
Maverick
ANY of these are good choices.

I favor the Benelli Supernova Defense, my personal choice.

TriggerHappy007
04-02-2010, 00:33
Actually a cheap shotgun does make a difference. Especially if extractors break, forearm connecting bolts (or connecting pins in some cases) break? Yeah cheap shotguns will work on bad guys just fine when they are new for a while but will they last a like a quality shotgun?

You dont want this to happen in the middle of a home invasion...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXWGqm-yaZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyvAp2_PSBg


That second video was great. I laughed my ass off watching that.

aippi
04-02-2010, 00:47
I often see posting asking for a cheap Home defense gun. This equates to asking for cheap brakes, cheap tires or a cheap parachutte. Yes, the clones work, the cheaper American models work, but when my A double S is on the line I want the most reliable weapon in my hands.

Would you want a cheap heart surgeon or brain surgeon? There is a fine line when it comes to paying for a reliable weapon and paying to much for a name. If you stick with the 870, 590, 37 or the Winchester pumps you can't go wrong. If you want to trust you life to some clone then, hey, it is your life and only you know what it is worth.

84S
04-02-2010, 01:36
Don't waste your time thinking about it, for the dollar the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500/590 will do and they are everywhere. Winchester pumps and the Ithaca model 37 are nice as well but not as common it seems. They all work great

Quigley
04-02-2010, 21:20
Stoeger Coach gun or Remington 870. Can't be beat.

B Coyote
04-02-2010, 21:32
Stoeger Couch gun or Remington 870. Can't be beat.

Does it come in plaid?

bc

Quigley
04-02-2010, 21:39
Does it come in plaid?

bc

Fixed it:rofl:.

SiNNiK
04-02-2010, 22:26
I often see posting asking for a cheap Home defense gun. This equates to asking for cheap brakes, cheap tires or a cheap parachutte. Yes, the clones work, the cheaper American models work, but when my A double S is on the line I want the most reliable weapon in my hands.

Would you want a cheap heart surgeon or brain surgeon? There is a fine line when it comes to paying for a reliable weapon and paying to much for a name. If you stick with the 870, 590, 37 or the Winchester pumps you can't go wrong. If you want to trust you life to some clone then, hey, it is your life and only you know what it is worth.

I agree, which is why I bought the SNT.

But when someone says something like this:

Just looking for a bedside home defense shotgun that is reliable that i can count on.

Well, it's probably just going to see 20 rounds and then go into a corner for the next few years. Why spend so much when in 10 years it will still be "new enough to work"?

ScrappyDoo
04-02-2010, 23:03
You need a blacktikal boomstick son!

huntall50
04-03-2010, 06:40
Now all you need to do is go to your local gun store and buy a shotgun and shells and head to a place where you can shoot! Its really just that simple.