Was going to get a weatherby PA-08 pump but decided to get an SA-08 instead. (semi auto instead of pump) Tried it out today. Shot 100 rounds right out of the box with no cleaning. 100%, no problems. Guns are made in Turkey for weatherby. $449 at Sportsman's Whse. Crome barrel and bolt, shoots 2 3/4 or 3", only 6 1/2 lbs. If interested see the video at www.weatherby.com. ps, great recoil pad thank goodness with the light weight. What sold me was all good reports by current owners-spent hours reading reports on that model.