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Berto
04-05-2010, 18:58
Strange how fortune works.....had a flakey seller in the GT classifieds set off a chain of events that led me to a minty 3rd gen G20 priced $400 with the box (plastic) extra mag and all.
So I'm happy.:supergrin:

Anyways, I'm a 10 millie owner now, so I have a few questions;

1) Is the g20 awesome?

2) Any off the shelf ammo I should avoid with the stock barrel?

3) Should bulged brass concern me?

_The_Shadow
04-05-2010, 21:18
Welcome to Glock Talk and the wonderful world of 10mm, be sure to look up the 10mmTalk forum (here is the Link) http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/10mm-Talk-Forums-f187.html

The G-20 is a good choice in 10mm for what it is, I like my G-29 as compacts go.
I only shoot my handloaded ammo thru my weapons...Jacketed & Cast bullets.

As far as the bulge...it should only be of concern if you are handloading it, sizing the bulge out is critical for 100% function reliability.

Best regards!

G33
04-06-2010, 05:33
:wavey::supergrin:

uz2bUSMC
04-06-2010, 19:56
Strange how fortune works.....had a flakey seller in the GT classifieds set off a chain of events that led me to a minty 3rd gen G20 priced $400 with the box (plastic) extra mag and all.
So I'm happy.:supergrin:

Anyways, I'm a 10 millie owner now, so I have a few questions;

1) Is the g20 awesome?

2) Any off the shelf ammo I should avoid with the stock barrel?

3) Should bulged brass concern me?

Yea, you've been around for tooooo long not to be a 10mm'er by now. Not talkin' age, talkin' GT time and stuff, ya know.


And yes, it's awsome.

uz2bUSMC
04-06-2010, 19:58
:wavey::supergrin:

You change your avi too much. Was that you in the last one? Aaand sooo, if it was... would I you report me if I flirted?:supergrin:









:whistling:

Angry Fist
04-06-2010, 19:59
Dirty Harry didn't have 15+1... 20+1 in my case! :rofl:That's a lot more than a six-pack of unlucky punks... :thumbsup:

uz2bUSMC
04-06-2010, 20:01
Dirty Harry didn't have 15+... 20+ in my case! :thumbsup:

He had Hollywood cylinders on that wheelgun, are you really tryin' to compete? Please don't disapoint me...

Angry Fist
04-06-2010, 20:04
He had Hollywood cylinders on that wheelgun, are you really tryin' to compete? Please don't disapoint me...

Every revolver in Hollywood works like a Calico...

uz2bUSMC
04-06-2010, 20:07
Every revolver in Hollywood works like a Calico...

LMAO! You went old school, that's awsome! ... and true! Well played, sir.

ETA; Genious!

MinervaDoe
04-06-2010, 20:16
1) Is the g20 awesome?

2) Any off the shelf ammo I should avoid with the stock barrel?

3) Should bulged brass concern me?
Welcome.

1) I haven't shot mine much, but with 165 grain bullets going slow (1012 fps) the accuracy and controllability left me pleasantly surprised.

2) Dunno...

3) I believe this is more of a problem with the really hot loads.

Bullet loco
04-07-2010, 00:17
I am getting the same deal later today. $400.00 for a 3rd gen. glock 20, you (the OP - berto) got an Xtra clip, I am only getting 2 clips, but I asked the guy for 2 mags worth of ammo so I didn't have to go find 10mm in my area and then spend $35.00 to test fire it, and he agreed on the ammo... :cool:


I have been itchin too get my hands on a 10mm for a long time. today sometime afternoon I am gonna be a 10mm owner. I think I got lucky also. :supergrin:

G33
04-07-2010, 00:28
You change your avi too much. Was that you in the last one? Aaand sooo, if it was... would I you report me if I flirted?:supergrin:









:whistling:

:wavey::supergrin:

uz2bUSMC
04-07-2010, 06:00
:wavey::supergrin:

:wavey:

uz2bUSMC
04-07-2010, 06:04
Berto,

If you really wanna know if the 10mm is awsome, get some full house loads, go out and shoot stuff. I don't mean paper, I mean "stuff". There is a big difference at the business end. The way it dispatches a water jug compared to say, a .45, will impress you.

cousin15
04-07-2010, 08:42
This weekend I will be trying several different Double Tap loads in my G20sf... I plan on bringing water jugs, pop cans, maybe a watermellon, probably a soaked phone book... and just about anything else I want to see explode...

MinervaDoe
04-07-2010, 09:02
Berto from GlockTalk. Come on down. Tell him about the Ten Ring Bob
That's right Don. Berto is going to be an excellent addition to the ten ring. His extensive knowledge of firearms makes him a great addition to any thread and we are really looking forward to teaching him the relationship between 10mm, Chuck Norris and formidable nuclear weaponry
:horsey::juggle::welcome::grouphug::number1:

DrtyHarry
04-07-2010, 09:27
This weekend I will be trying several different Double Tap loads in my G20sf... I plan on bringing water jugs, pop cans, maybe a watermellon, probably a soaked phone book... and just about anything else I want to see explode...

Please bring the video camera with ya!


DH

Berto
04-07-2010, 18:36
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/092009/1253886042_price-is-right-fail.gif



I'm so stoked.

I'll have to start easy guys, first paper punching and mild stuff. Local ranges don't allow 10mm, so they have to think it's .40.

uz2bUSMC
04-08-2010, 01:09
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/092009/1253886042_price-is-right-fail.gif



I'm so stoked.

I'll have to start easy guys, first paper punching and mild stuff. Local ranges don't allow 10mm, so they have to think it's .40.


WTF? Why do they not allow 10mm?

Berto
04-08-2010, 08:35
It just says on the entrance;

"No 40mm grenades or 10mm."

MinervaDoe
04-08-2010, 08:58
It just says on the entrance;

"No 40mm grenades or 10mm."
The 10mm I can understand, but what's the problem with 40mm grenades. :dunno: It must be some stupid insurance thing. Wait until Chuck Norris hears about this.

Berto
04-08-2010, 16:05
Wow, this gun is unfired.

With TRL-1 Streamlight

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/995/glock003.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9859/glock004.jpg

Will be shooting it hopefully tomorrow.

Angry Fist
04-08-2010, 16:22
How much were the Silvertips?

Berto
04-08-2010, 16:40
25 bucks.

Too much for 20rnds. I just wanted some diversity.:supergrin:

Angry Fist
04-08-2010, 16:58
25 bucks.

Too much for 20rnds. I just wanted some diversity.:supergrin:

Dang... I'm on my 3rd box for $13.95 each... :tongueout:. Really though, there is this backwoods gun shop here I recently started haunting, and he has ~50 boxes of them. No one has come in there in 3 years to buy 10mm... had to knock 20 layers of dust off to open the boxes. All so far were flawless.

Berto
04-08-2010, 17:53
Damn.

I got reamed on the American Eagle, too.:upeyes:

hill billy
04-09-2010, 02:57
Can you get me a high res picture of that sign at your range Berto? I could pay, maybe even in 10mm ammo. :whistling:

There is a range local to me that won't let folks shoot 10mm on the steel but .357 is a-ok. I don't get it.

cowboywannabe
04-09-2010, 12:59
Berto, you have some S&Ws that will make any conasuer envious:wow:

so if you gotta 10mm in Glockzilla style youre more than welcome on accounta you aint sissy to end up selling it because it hurts your widdle hand.:rofl:


sally up to the bar and tell us some shooting stories about your new 10mm.

CanyonMan
04-09-2010, 19:13
Hey Berto,

Congrats hoss. You will love this gun (if you ever get to shoot it) haha.
I got two G20's one is the SF, and like a dummy i sold my G29 to get something else I just had to have. Wish I had it back now.

Anyway, like uz2bUSMC said. Go out and shoot 'Stuff," if ya can. If not, at least blow away some paper.

I shoot jacketed and Hard Cast in mine all the time. I just make sure my HC are at least 20/21 BHN hardness, and clean it out ever 40/50 shots. Some may not agree, thats cool. This is just the way I do it.

No worries if you simply swab it out every 40/50 rds, IF you have been shooting a 'genuine Hard cast bullet', not something that is soft lead.



Have fun man !



CanyonMan

Berto
04-09-2010, 19:22
Thanks for all the welcome!!

I did get out with it today, posted a report in the Glocking...probably might be better to post here next time.
Anyhoo, it's a shooter.
As Agt told me, I need to find some real 10mm ammo now instead of the usual .40 level stuff.

MinervaDoe
04-09-2010, 19:38
You are so well schooled that you probably already know this, but these quotes may come in handy in the future.

The 10mm is an inherently accurate cartridge, routinely giving ten shot groups of under one inch here in the Sierra test range. With the energy levels available in full power loads, the 10mm is quite capable of cleanly taking deer and boar sized game with proper shot placement.

We have found the .40 S&W to be an accurate cartridge, but not quite capable of producing the incredible groups so frequently seen in the 10mm Auto.

Berto
04-10-2010, 14:01
Well, despite my offhand shooting, I was able to pull a 2.2" group and 3.25" groups at approx 20yrds (range says 25, but I doubt it)....indoor range.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7207/glockrange006.jpg

I plan to go out again later this weekend and shoot some more, I definitely like this pistol.

MinervaDoe
04-11-2010, 18:10
What kind of ammo have you shot so far?
What would you compare the kick too?

All I've put through my G20 so far was 165 grain 1012 fps stuff. For the slower stuff I'm shooting, the kick seems stout, but quick. It reminds me of .45ACP.

Berto
04-11-2010, 21:16
So far, American Eagle 180gr (mild), Win Silvertip 175gr (mid level) and today I ran some HSM 180gr JFP thru it. It was the warmest I've tried yet, at least based on recoil.
That said, recoil is IMO still fairly mild, feels like std pressure 230gr .45acp from my Kimber 1911. Muzzle flip is still pretty close to non existent and I can run about 2/sec at 7yrds in a fist sized group.
The HSM grouped five into 3.25" at 25yrds.

MinervaDoe
04-11-2010, 22:08
That said, recoil is IMO still fairly mild, feels like std pressure 230gr .45acp from my Kimber 1911. Muzzle flip is still pretty close to non existent and I can run about 2/sec at 7yrds in a fist sized group.
The HSM grouped five into 3.25" at 25yrds.
That was my take from my one outing. Overall, seemed similar to .45 ACP. Slightly less muzzle rise and slightly longer push than .45. I think recovery time to get back on target will be quick. Your description seems to confirm that.