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conpro
04-07-2010, 14:02
I just picked up some mil spec ammo from my local shop and was wondering if anybody ever used it. It is the drab green shells with the black cap.

KalashniKEV
04-07-2010, 14:24
Yes, but AA60 is just Winchester 00 Buck in a brown cardboard box. Dark maroon w/ brass.

Post a pic of what you got...

KalashniKEV
04-07-2010, 14:27
"The Cartridge, 12 Gauge #00 Buckshot 3" (DODIC AA60) is used for training, combat, and guard purposes with the Joint Service Shotgun (M1014). The AA60 consists of a brass cartridge case, plastic sleeve, and waterproofed paper plug."

"The Cartridge, 12 Gauge #00 Buckshot M162 (DODIC A011) is used for training, combat, and guard purposes with the M500, M590, and M870 12-gauge Auto-loading and Pump action Shotguns. Three types of outer casings distinguish DODIC A011; the M19 Brass Cartridge Case, the M162 Plastic Cartridge Case, and the waterproofed paper cartridge case that does not have an assigned model number. Each cartridge case consists of a metal (brass or plated steel) head containing a propellant charge and smokeless powder."

It sounds like you might have A011. Never used it...

conpro
04-07-2010, 17:58
This is the brown box, the ammo is green with blackend tops.

captcurly
04-07-2010, 18:15
What you said roadking07. This ammo functions as good as anyother. I think it has a cool look.

conpro
04-07-2010, 19:45
It does look cool looking on the gun.

K.Kiser
04-07-2010, 19:55
I wouldn't hesitate put as much confidence in it as any other quality shell...

jeb_ingram
04-07-2010, 21:48
My 870 and 1100 love it. It cycles the 1100 without a problem. The patterning isnt bad. Not bad for the $4.50 per box i spent. I would stake my life on it!

KalashniKEV
04-08-2010, 15:08
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7097/mytac500a.jpg

inzone
04-08-2010, 21:06
cabelas usually has these shotshells on sale..... good price, high velocity

DaveFJ80
04-08-2010, 22:04
This is the brown box, the ammo is green with blackend tops.

Same stuff that Big 5 had on sale a couple of weeks ago. It's labeled as Winchester Military grade ammo. I still have a couple of boxes, and I've shot a few as well through my Benelli SuperNova. No problems with it and it felt like any other 00 buckshot I've put through the gun.

WmHBonney
04-08-2010, 23:43
I was just looking at this stuff yesterday and couldn't decide whether I wanted it or not. You saved me the trouble of asking. Thanks.

USMC03Grunt
04-09-2010, 15:32
Actual .mil issued ammunition on the right and a Wal-Mart Winchester bulk box on the left:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/USMCGruntUSAFCATM/Firearms/Shotguns/DCP_1921.jpg

The ammunition can markings (.50 caliber ammo can) our ammunition comes in:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/USMCGruntUSAFCATM/Firearms/Shotguns/DCP_1920.jpg

cmspeedy
04-10-2010, 07:59
Sorry to bash your ammo, but the mil-spec stuff with green cases and coated brass is garbage. I patterned this ammo out of all of my shotguns and it has the largest spread of any 00 buck I've ever used. For range use or SHTF use I guess it's OK - it beats nothing. I will not use it for anything but playing around.

The spread is far too big to hunt with IMO, too big for home defense as you are accountable for all 9 pellets and they are extremely unpredictable with a bunch of fliers.

Buy some Federal Flitecontrol if you want some premium 00 buck. I hunt with 00 9 pellet full power flite control. I defend my home with 00 8 pellet reduced recoil flite control. They also make a low recoil 9 pellet 00 buck.

In my experience all of the flitecontrol 00 loads pattern like a slug out to roughly 25 feet. It is absolutely amazing stuff.

The Hornady TAP, Winchester Ranger and Federal Flitecontrol are all great buckshot loadings that maintain a tight pattern.

N/Apower
05-09-2010, 21:41
Sorry to bash your ammo, but the mil-spec stuff with green cases and coated brass is garbage. I patterned this ammo out of all of my shotguns and it has the largest spread of any 00 buck I've ever used. For range use or SHTF use I guess it's OK - it beats nothing. I will not use it for anything but playing around.

The spread is far too big to hunt with IMO, too big for home defense as you are accountable for all 9 pellets and they are extremely unpredictable with a bunch of fliers.

Buy some Federal Flitecontrol if you want some premium 00 buck. I hunt with 00 9 pellet full power flite control. I defend my home with 00 8 pellet reduced recoil flite control. They also make a low recoil 9 pellet 00 buck.

In my experience all of the flitecontrol 00 loads pattern like a slug out to roughly 25 feet. It is absolutely amazing stuff.

The Hornady TAP, Winchester Ranger and Federal Flitecontrol are all great buckshot loadings that maintain a tight pattern.

Ever tear one open? It looks like someone ran the buck over with a dough-roller or something, lol. Stuff is as low-quality as it gets, but still carries a premium price because "It's Military Grade!". Pass.

stiletto raggio
05-10-2010, 16:23
Military contract=lowest bidder. I'd take most commercial ammo over military stuff.

N/Apower
05-10-2010, 18:56
Military contract=lowest bidder. I'd take most commercial ammo over military stuff.

Except in the case of XM193 from Federal, which I have found to be quite accurate for FMJ. PPU M855 also shot very well. I was shooting about 1.8MOA with it at 200 yards for 10-shot groups from the AR. XM193 was doing about 2MOA. Very good for FMJ, imho. It was also a lot hotter than the remington commercial fodder.

GreyEclipse
05-10-2010, 19:38
Yes, I've fired it. Yes, it's not that great either.

Zebulon Batty
05-17-2010, 14:02
I bought some from Sportsman's Guide about a year ago. It looks cool but it did not pattern well out of my 870. I won't be buying any more. I prefer low recoil slugs anyways.

OldArcher
05-22-2010, 14:49
It's okay. If you want best tactical 00, try the new loads from any of the majors. Me, I use Remington's TAC8. Only 8 instead of 9 pellets, but much tighter pattern, due to design/manufacture. More lead on target, longer range. That's a "good thing."

OldArcher, out...

Have to agree with Zebulon Batty on the low recoil slugs. Today, you can hit, effectively out to 100yds with the new low recoil rounds. Too there's always the benefit of lighter recoil, faster follow-up shots. Not something to be dismissed lightly...

OA...

demusn79
05-23-2010, 04:28
Steel base,Unplated shot,Expensive.

longbowshooter
05-23-2010, 19:56
I tried the stuff from Cabela's. Olin Corp which I think is made by Winchester. It functioned fine out of my pump and patterned ok too, about like Federal 9 pellet. The TAC8 patterns better out of my guns.